Question about AOS process

[enno4eva 0]

Hi again, and your welcome for posting, hopefully the info is helpful. Awww ok, so your husband is from Toronto huh? Where in Toronto is he from? I was living in North York, to be exact, Weston Rd and Lawerence, by 401 and Weston. I dont know where Pefferlaw is? Aww New Jersey very cool, I am residing in Ohio. Oh yeah Toronto and New Jersey is definately very different. Awww ok, I thought you meant British Columbia LOL, thanks for clarifying it. They most likey did fill out the I-693 form as they printed their own copy ans filled it out and inserted in the envelope when my wife and I went to do my medical exams. How much did you guys pay for your medical exams? I think you will be fine but you should call to be sure because you dont want to get RFE in your process. RFE is request further evidence and that stops your process until you provide the evidence they send you in the mail and you have to mail it back for your AOS to resume. I personally think in my humble opinion that you shouldnt file for the I-131 because he overstayed in the US. I wouldnt file it, and wait till he gets his green card. I do think it sucks that USCIS can do this to people who are overstayers and various other situations. I think its kinda insensitive because there are so many people in this process who have family and friends they miss back home you know, but instead you have to wait it out for a few months. I am being realistic with you on the I-131, I know that I sound like a broken record, but DO NOT FILE FOR IT AND WAIT TILL YOU GET YOUR GREEN CARD. You definately have a whole lot of reading to do and it sure is very tedious, so read it carefully. Also you should refer to the guides on VJ, it has sample filled out forms, and it is a guide to show you how to fill out the forms. I think you guys will be fine and ask questions if you have any anytime. Who knows he might of been a neighbour LOL, big city, small world.

Hey Canadian...yeah small world for sure....He lived for a while at victoria park i think it's called....Civil surgeon isnt sure what they put in that envelope lol..imma have to make a trip there to make sure...I definitely don't want an RFE...we've waited long enough.....As for the I-131, to be honest, if we can save the $300+ for the document, we'd much prefer to do that. Especially if we won't really be able to use it anyway. His mother is coming to visit in the spring, and he's definitely a trooper, so he'll be ok waiting it out till he gets his green card. I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't a necessary document to fill out. If its optional, and like you said, pretty much useless for us at this point, then we'll bypass it altogether. So how's Ohio?...I'm excited to visit Canada, he tells me its similiar to NYC, except cleaner lol....I'll definitely be using the sample forms on VJ for our intensive paperwork session this weekend. Keep your eyes open for more Questions lol..thanks again

~~Chrissy~~

Awww I know where Victoria Park is, it is in the east side of Toronto mainly known as Scarborough, which is extremely far, from where I was at LOL, he would know that from being Toronto and me morely in west side techincally of Toronto, north york I dont know lol. I think you definately should see the civil surgeon just to make sure everything is cool. No you definately wouldnt want to get an RFE. Well you wont be saving $300, when you are filing concurrently, meaning the I-130 and I-1485 and the other supporting forms, the I-765 an I-131 is free and optional to file while waiting for the physical green card. Since he is an overstayer, it makes no sense to file it as, I know it must be hard for him to explain the situation back home to his friends and family, who I am sure cant wait for you guys to be able to travel. You definately have to be very very patient, theres a whole lot of waiting LOL. It is hard though not being able to travel, work etc etc freely when your in the process of immigration. Its good to know hes a trooper and it will be worth the wait in the end. I am glad that his mother is going to be able to come up to New Jersey to visit you guys. Ohio is a very nice state, I do love it here, people are very friendly and nice here, I dont regret living in this state, as I met some very cool people as well along the way. I am in a small town outside of Cleveland, I am like 45min away from Cleveland, so its a big change going from a big city to a small town, but I do like it here and I am getting use to it. You will definately love it there, theres plenty to do there. I do like the winters here in Ohio, way too much snow for my liking LOL as I am use to winter LOL, but it isnt cold and Toronto is less snow but really really cold, he can tell you that. He is right on what he told you about Toronto, thats how I describe Toronto to people here also. Definately use the resources here on VJ, they are very helpful. You guys can message me anytime if you have any questions about anything. How long has he been in the states for? What does he do to pass the time because he will definately be home a whole lot LOL and what kind of work does he want to get into once he can work? Tell me hes a leafs, raptors or blue jays fan? What do you do for work? Take care you guys and thanks again for replying back.

I meant to ask and it slipped my mind, if you dont mind me asking, how did you guys meet? I know I am asking alot of questions LOL, but what are the odds of meeting a canadian in the US. I met my wife on myspace, if you want to know. It was crazy that we were only like 4.5hrs drive from one another at the time.

Oops!! I601 is what I meant.

[kikkilee 0]

Hello Kikkilee,

OK, let's see. Unlawful status ignored? hmmmm, that's not entirely true. It seems you also have the issue of coming to the U.S. on one Visa and then getting married...that's also frowned upon. Now, it is ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL of our hopes, wishes and pleadings NONE of us have to deal with HARD NOSED IOs when it comes to the rules of unlawful/out of status and marrying while in the states on a visa other than a K-1. That said, the first thing is to get that infamous i130 approved. I know you're filing all together but it's that i130 that gets the ball going. A/P A.K.A. travel document...now if you've accrued unlawful status you're subject to a 3 and 10 year bar if you leave the U.S. and try to reenter. That warning is in PLAIN view on the travel document. Based on your I485 application and/or I130, USCIS already knows you have accrued unlawful status, yet they will still approve the A/P. go figure. Nevertheless, Border Patrol may let you return without incident or they can change your life forever by detaining you. This is true talk.

So, let's say you get your A/P, no hassles returning to the U.S. and then you get to your interview. If you get Mr/Ms. hardnose, they can say, "You need to file an I801 so that we can waive your inadmissability. You see, you were entered legally back when you got your first visa. but because you have accrued unlawful status, you are no longer admissable. therefore you should be filing back home through your consulate and be separated from your loving spouse for about 12 to 18 months. That totally sucks. However, an approved I801 waives that requirement. Unfortunately these are hard to get approved. And by the way, you have to file the I801 at the consulate as well because you're inadmissable.

So, I would take the advice of our fellow vj'ers and stay in the country and get that coveted Green Card. Don't bring up your unlawful status. Just apply like everyone else and speak when asked to and not before that. As long as you're in the states and married with a pending i485, you're good to go. So, get that app in as soon as possible. What my wife and I went through with Border patrol, ICE, immigration court, and yes, USCIS was traumatic. I don't wish that on anyone.

Good luck. You're in my prayers!

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Hey enno4eva, thanks for responding to my post.....actually, my husband didnt come to the U.S. on a visa.....I guess the status he came under was a visitor...he didnt come with any documents, visas or otherwise, there was just the inspection at the train station. As far as the I-131 goes...reading from USCIS.gov....i checked out the download instructions for the I-131 and it explains the document is for re-entry, refugee, or AP....since we have no intention of risking a ban on him coming back into the U.S. if we visited Canada, the document is pretty useless for us at this time. Is it necessary to still apply for this document being that we wont be using it?...

Canadian, i was reading the "notes" of the fee info for I-131 and it does say that if its concurrently filed with I-485, and I-130, the fee is waived, so thank you for bringing it to my attention. lol so much info to contain in my head but im movin thru it...so the way we met....actually its quite a funny story.....we met playin an online multiplayer game called counterstrike lol....its a first person shooter game, which i kno, is very odd...funny when i tell ppl we met online, they assume its from an x rated chat room lol which was sooooo not the case.....as for him, he's been here a year =( and stays home for the most part.....which is driving him nuts cuz hes used to working and being productive...but hes still productive in my opinion....he was a chef for 7 years in canada...and he's a fan of none of those teams!!! would u believe hes a senators fan!?!?

Edited December 4, 2008 by kikkilee

[enno4eva 0]

Hey enno4eva, thanks for responding to my post.....actually, my husband didnt come to the U.S. on a visa.....I guess the status he came under was a visitor...he didnt come with any documents, visas or otherwise, there was just the inspection at the train station. As far as the I-131 goes...reading from USCIS.gov....i checked out the download instructions for the I-131 and it explains the document is for re-entry, refugee, or AP....since we have no intention of risking a ban on him coming back into the U.S. if we visited Canada, the document is pretty useless for us at this time. Is it necessary to still apply for this document being that we wont be using it?...

Canadian, i was reading the "notes" of the fee info for I-131 and it does say that if its concurrently filed with I-485, and I-130, the fee is waived, so thank you for bringing it to my attention. lol so much info to contain in my head but im movin thru it...so the way we met....actually its quite a funny story.....we met playin an online multiplayer game called counterstrike lol....its a first person shooter game, which i kno, is very odd...funny when i tell ppl we met online, they assume its from an x rated chat room lol which was sooooo not the case.....as for him, he's been here a year =( and stays home for the most part.....which is driving him nuts cuz hes used to working and being productive...but hes still productive in my opinion....he was a chef for 7 years in canada...and he's a fan of none of those teams!!! would u believe hes a senators fan!?!?

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Yes, when your husband crossed over by train, he was inspected and given a 90 day visitor visa. One can apply for a Visitor Visa from 3 months to 10 years in their originating country as long as he/she meets some simple requirements. There are some countries that have a waiver for this Visa. Canada is not one of them. RATS! Just the same, when your husband came over, he most likely was enrolled in the US-VISIT entry-exit program. In addition, some travelers will also need to register their entry into and their departure from the U.S. with the National Security Exit Entry Registration System (NSEERS). Why is this important? Because, when we apply for the loves of our lives to be immigrated, USCIS will require the applicant to have a record of being properly admitted into the U.S. So, circumventing the system can be very bad for you. For example, let's say your husband is just too homesick and must hear a comfortable "eh!" and returns home with his passport. There's a hit for his departure. Then he "sneaks" back by driving across. I mean heck, CBP doesn't check EVERY car coming across. WRONG. Now, when you go to the interview, the IO will ask, "how did you return to the U.S.?" None of your answers will be a good so, you'll be told, "You left without A/P and you must refile because you abandoned your AOS!" OUCH!! EWWWWWWW. That's right, you have to start all over again. BUT, that's if the IO is nice. If not, they'll hand you a Notice to Appear in Immigration Court and you'll be fighting deportation. Don't get me wrong, you can and will get through that, but it will be a long and expensive process. Moreover, the IO is not going to understand and be sympathetic to, "We didn't get the A/P because we knew we were not eligible due to the unlawful status we've accrued." Way wrong answer. In fact, just for your entertainment...call an ICE attorney and they will say, IF YOU PLAN TO TRAVEL GET AN A/P PRIOR TO LEAVING!!

So get the A/P. You never know if your husband will have to leave because of a death in the family or some other family emergency. Believe it or not, there are members of DHS that do care and will help immigrants (i hear all of the grrrrrrrrrrrrrs). Leaving under those circumstances is classified as Humanitarian, but leaving w/out an A/P is the worst and nothing good will come of it. Having the A/P shows that you didn't follow the rules in the past but you are now. Make sense? So, remember, I would not use the A/P in your case to travel to watch the upcoming Australian Open Tennis Championships and expect to return without incident. But going home to Canada because your husband needs to...

Remember, we're all in this together!!! Good luck!

Edited December 4, 2008 by enno4eva

[Canadianmade 1]

Hi again, and your welcome for posting, hopefully the info is helpful. Awww ok, so your husband is from Toronto huh? Where in Toronto is he from? I was living in North York, to be exact, Weston Rd and Lawerence, by 401 and Weston. I dont know where Pefferlaw is? Aww New Jersey very cool, I am residing in Ohio. Oh yeah Toronto and New Jersey is definately very different. Awww ok, I thought you meant British Columbia LOL, thanks for clarifying it. They most likey did fill out the I-693 form as they printed their own copy ans filled it out and inserted in the envelope when my wife and I went to do my medical exams. How much did you guys pay for your medical exams? I think you will be fine but you should call to be sure because you dont want to get RFE in your process. RFE is request further evidence and that stops your process until you provide the evidence they send you in the mail and you have to mail it back for your AOS to resume. I personally think in my humble opinion that you shouldnt file for the I-131 because he overstayed in the US. I wouldnt file it, and wait till he gets his green card. I do think it sucks that USCIS can do this to people who are overstayers and various other situations. I think its kinda insensitive because there are so many people in this process who have family and friends they miss back home you know, but instead you have to wait it out for a few months. I am being realistic with you on the I-131, I know that I sound like a broken record, but DO NOT FILE FOR IT AND WAIT TILL YOU GET YOUR GREEN CARD. You definately have a whole lot of reading to do and it sure is very tedious, so read it carefully. Also you should refer to the guides on VJ, it has sample filled out forms, and it is a guide to show you how to fill out the forms. I think you guys will be fine and ask questions if you have any anytime. Who knows he might of been a neighbour LOL, big city, small world.

Hey Canadian...yeah small world for sure....He lived for a while at victoria park i think it's called....Civil surgeon isnt sure what they put in that envelope lol..imma have to make a trip there to make sure...I definitely don't want an RFE...we've waited long enough.....As for the I-131, to be honest, if we can save the $300+ for the document, we'd much prefer to do that. Especially if we won't really be able to use it anyway. His mother is coming to visit in the spring, and he's definitely a trooper, so he'll be ok waiting it out till he gets his green card. I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't a necessary document to fill out. If its optional, and like you said, pretty much useless for us at this point, then we'll bypass it altogether. So how's Ohio?...I'm excited to visit Canada, he tells me its similiar to NYC, except cleaner lol....I'll definitely be using the sample forms on VJ for our intensive paperwork session this weekend. Keep your eyes open for more Questions lol..thanks again

~~Chrissy~~

Awww I know where Victoria Park is, it is in the east side of Toronto mainly known as Scarborough, which is extremely far, from where I was at LOL, he would know that from being Toronto and me morely in west side techincally of Toronto, north york I dont know lol. I think you definately should see the civil surgeon just to make sure everything is cool. No you definately wouldnt want to get an RFE. Well you wont be saving $300, when you are filing concurrently, meaning the I-130 and I-1485 and the other supporting forms, the I-765 an I-131 is free and optional to file while waiting for the physical green card. Since he is an overstayer, it makes no sense to file it as, I know it must be hard for him to explain the situation back home to his friends and family, who I am sure cant wait for you guys to be able to travel. You definately have to be very very patient, theres a whole lot of waiting LOL. It is hard though not being able to travel, work etc etc freely when your in the process of immigration. Its good to know hes a trooper and it will be worth the wait in the end. I am glad that his mother is going to be able to come up to New Jersey to visit you guys. Ohio is a very nice state, I do love it here, people are very friendly and nice here, I dont regret living in this state, as I met some very cool people as well along the way. I am in a small town outside of Cleveland, I am like 45min away from Cleveland, so its a big change going from a big city to a small town, but I do like it here and I am getting use to it. You will definately love it there, theres plenty to do there. I do like the winters here in Ohio, way too much snow for my liking LOL as I am use to winter LOL, but it isnt cold and Toronto is less snow but really really cold, he can tell you that. He is right on what he told you about Toronto, thats how I describe Toronto to people here also. Definately use the resources here on VJ, they are very helpful. You guys can message me anytime if you have any questions about anything. How long has he been in the states for? What does he do to pass the time because he will definately be home a whole lot LOL and what kind of work does he want to get into once he can work? Tell me hes a leafs, raptors or blue jays fan? What do you do for work? Take care you guys and thanks again for replying back.

I meant to ask and it slipped my mind, if you dont mind me asking, how did you guys meet? I know I am asking alot of questions LOL, but what are the odds of meeting a canadian in the US. I met my wife on myspace, if you want to know. It was crazy that we were only like 4.5hrs drive from one another at the time.

Oops!! I601 is what I meant.

You mean the waiver form, what about it, I am quite confused with what you mean.

[enno4eva 0]

Hi again, and your welcome for posting, hopefully the info is helpful. Awww ok, so your husband is from Toronto huh? Where in Toronto is he from? I was living in North York, to be exact, Weston Rd and Lawerence, by 401 and Weston. I dont know where Pefferlaw is? Aww New Jersey very cool, I am residing in Ohio. Oh yeah Toronto and New Jersey is definately very different. Awww ok, I thought you meant British Columbia LOL, thanks for clarifying it. They most likey did fill out the I-693 form as they printed their own copy ans filled it out and inserted in the envelope when my wife and I went to do my medical exams. How much did you guys pay for your medical exams? I think you will be fine but you should call to be sure because you dont want to get RFE in your process. RFE is request further evidence and that stops your process until you provide the evidence they send you in the mail and you have to mail it back for your AOS to resume. I personally think in my humble opinion that you shouldnt file for the I-131 because he overstayed in the US. I wouldnt file it, and wait till he gets his green card. I do think it sucks that USCIS can do this to people who are overstayers and various other situations. I think its kinda insensitive because there are so many people in this process who have family and friends they miss back home you know, but instead you have to wait it out for a few months. I am being realistic with you on the I-131, I know that I sound like a broken record, but DO NOT FILE FOR IT AND WAIT TILL YOU GET YOUR GREEN CARD. You definately have a whole lot of reading to do and it sure is very tedious, so read it carefully. Also you should refer to the guides on VJ, it has sample filled out forms, and it is a guide to show you how to fill out the forms. I think you guys will be fine and ask questions if you have any anytime. Who knows he might of been a neighbour LOL, big city, small world.

Hey Canadian...yeah small world for sure....He lived for a while at victoria park i think it's called....Civil surgeon isnt sure what they put in that envelope lol..imma have to make a trip there to make sure...I definitely don't want an RFE...we've waited long enough.....As for the I-131, to be honest, if we can save the $300+ for the document, we'd much prefer to do that. Especially if we won't really be able to use it anyway. His mother is coming to visit in the spring, and he's definitely a trooper, so he'll be ok waiting it out till he gets his green card. I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't a necessary document to fill out. If its optional, and like you said, pretty much useless for us at this point, then we'll bypass it altogether. So how's Ohio?...I'm excited to visit Canada, he tells me its similiar to NYC, except cleaner lol....I'll definitely be using the sample forms on VJ for our intensive paperwork session this weekend. Keep your eyes open for more Questions lol..thanks again

~~Chrissy~~

Awww I know where Victoria Park is, it is in the east side of Toronto mainly known as Scarborough, which is extremely far, from where I was at LOL, he would know that from being Toronto and me morely in west side techincally of Toronto, north york I dont know lol. I think you definately should see the civil surgeon just to make sure everything is cool. No you definately wouldnt want to get an RFE. Well you wont be saving $300, when you are filing concurrently, meaning the I-130 and I-1485 and the other supporting forms, the I-765 an I-131 is free and optional to file while waiting for the physical green card. Since he is an overstayer, it makes no sense to file it as, I know it must be hard for him to explain the situation back home to his friends and family, who I am sure cant wait for you guys to be able to travel. You definately have to be very very patient, theres a whole lot of waiting LOL. It is hard though not being able to travel, work etc etc freely when your in the process of immigration. Its good to know hes a trooper and it will be worth the wait in the end. I am glad that his mother is going to be able to come up to New Jersey to visit you guys. Ohio is a very nice state, I do love it here, people are very friendly and nice here, I dont regret living in this state, as I met some very cool people as well along the way. I am in a small town outside of Cleveland, I am like 45min away from Cleveland, so its a big change going from a big city to a small town, but I do like it here and I am getting use to it. You will definately love it there, theres plenty to do there. I do like the winters here in Ohio, way too much snow for my liking LOL as I am use to winter LOL, but it isnt cold and Toronto is less snow but really really cold, he can tell you that. He is right on what he told you about Toronto, thats how I describe Toronto to people here also. Definately use the resources here on VJ, they are very helpful. You guys can message me anytime if you have any questions about anything. How long has he been in the states for? What does he do to pass the time because he will definately be home a whole lot LOL and what kind of work does he want to get into once he can work? Tell me hes a leafs, raptors or blue jays fan? What do you do for work? Take care you guys and thanks again for replying back.

I meant to ask and it slipped my mind, if you dont mind me asking, how did you guys meet? I know I am asking alot of questions LOL, but what are the odds of meeting a canadian in the US. I met my wife on myspace, if you want to know. It was crazy that we were only like 4.5hrs drive from one another at the time.

Oops!! I601 is what I meant.

You mean the waiver form, what about it, I am quite confused with what you mean.

I601 is filed for those not being approved for their Green Card because of being inadmissable. Usually they have accrued unlawful status or left the country out of status and tried to re-enter the U.S.

Hope that helps.

[Canadianmade 1]

Hello Kikkilee,

OK, let's see. Unlawful status ignored? hmmmm, that's not entirely true. It seems you also have the issue of coming to the U.S. on one Visa and then getting married...that's also frowned upon. Now, it is ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL of our hopes, wishes and pleadings NONE of us have to deal with HARD NOSED IOs when it comes to the rules of unlawful/out of status and marrying while in the states on a visa other than a K-1. That said, the first thing is to get that infamous i130 approved. I know you're filing all together but it's that i130 that gets the ball going. A/P A.K.A. travel document...now if you've accrued unlawful status you're subject to a 3 and 10 year bar if you leave the U.S. and try to reenter. That warning is in PLAIN view on the travel document. Based on your I485 application and/or I130, USCIS already knows you have accrued unlawful status, yet they will still approve the A/P. go figure. Nevertheless, Border Patrol may let you return without incident or they can change your life forever by detaining you. This is true talk.

So, let's say you get your A/P, no hassles returning to the U.S. and then you get to your interview. If you get Mr/Ms. hardnose, they can say, "You need to file an I801 so that we can waive your inadmissability. You see, you were entered legally back when you got your first visa. but because you have accrued unlawful status, you are no longer admissable. therefore you should be filing back home through your consulate and be separated from your loving spouse for about 12 to 18 months. That totally sucks. However, an approved I801 waives that requirement. Unfortunately these are hard to get approved. And by the way, you have to file the I801 at the consulate as well because you're inadmissable.

So, I would take the advice of our fellow vj'ers and stay in the country and get that coveted Green Card. Don't bring up your unlawful status. Just apply like everyone else and speak when asked to and not before that. As long as you're in the states and married with a pending i485, you're good to go. So, get that app in as soon as possible. What my wife and I went through with Border patrol, ICE, immigration court, and yes, USCIS was traumatic. I don't wish that on anyone.

Good luck. You're in my prayers!

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Hey enno4eva, thanks for responding to my post.....actually, my husband didnt come to the U.S. on a visa.....I guess the status he came under was a visitor...he didnt come with any documents, visas or otherwise, there was just the inspection at the train station. As far as the I-131 goes...reading from USCIS.gov....i checked out the download instructions for the I-131 and it explains the document is for re-entry, refugee, or AP....since we have no intention of risking a ban on him coming back into the U.S. if we visited Canada, the document is pretty useless for us at this time. Is it necessary to still apply for this document being that we wont be using it?...

Canadian, i was reading the "notes" of the fee info for I-131 and it does say that if its concurrently filed with I-485, and I-130, the fee is waived, so thank you for bringing it to my attention. lol so much info to contain in my head but im movin thru it...so the way we met....actually its quite a funny story.....we met playin an online multiplayer game called counterstrike lol....its a first person shooter game, which i kno, is very odd...funny when i tell ppl we met online, they assume its from an x rated chat room lol which was sooooo not the case.....as for him, he's been here a year =( and stays home for the most part.....which is driving him nuts cuz hes used to working and being productive...but hes still productive in my opinion....he was a chef for 7 years in canada...and he's a fan of none of those teams!!! would u believe hes a senators fan!?!?

your welcome once again and oh yeah, all of this is very overwhelming. Yeah I have heard of counterstrike and that is such a very neat way you both met, nothing wrong with that. I bet staying is driving him nuts but I bet he enjoys that he is with you, so he will be able to do his thing when all of this is filed and done. Aww a head chef very cool. WHAT??? He doesnt like the leafs, raptors or the blu jays boooooooo to him, what a trader LOL just kidding. I am a huge blue jays fan. I cant believe hes a senators fan, but they are a good team though so I dont blame him for routing for them.

[Canadianmade 1]

Hi again, and your welcome for posting, hopefully the info is helpful. Awww ok, so your husband is from Toronto huh? Where in Toronto is he from? I was living in North York, to be exact, Weston Rd and Lawerence, by 401 and Weston. I dont know where Pefferlaw is? Aww New Jersey very cool, I am residing in Ohio. Oh yeah Toronto and New Jersey is definately very different. Awww ok, I thought you meant British Columbia LOL, thanks for clarifying it. They most likey did fill out the I-693 form as they printed their own copy ans filled it out and inserted in the envelope when my wife and I went to do my medical exams. How much did you guys pay for your medical exams? I think you will be fine but you should call to be sure because you dont want to get RFE in your process. RFE is request further evidence and that stops your process until you provide the evidence they send you in the mail and you have to mail it back for your AOS to resume. I personally think in my humble opinion that you shouldnt file for the I-131 because he overstayed in the US. I wouldnt file it, and wait till he gets his green card. I do think it sucks that USCIS can do this to people who are overstayers and various other situations. I think its kinda insensitive because there are so many people in this process who have family and friends they miss back home you know, but instead you have to wait it out for a few months. I am being realistic with you on the I-131, I know that I sound like a broken record, but DO NOT FILE FOR IT AND WAIT TILL YOU GET YOUR GREEN CARD. You definately have a whole lot of reading to do and it sure is very tedious, so read it carefully. Also you should refer to the guides on VJ, it has sample filled out forms, and it is a guide to show you how to fill out the forms. I think you guys will be fine and ask questions if you have any anytime. Who knows he might of been a neighbour LOL, big city, small world.

Hey Canadian...yeah small world for sure....He lived for a while at victoria park i think it's called....Civil surgeon isnt sure what they put in that envelope lol..imma have to make a trip there to make sure...I definitely don't want an RFE...we've waited long enough.....As for the I-131, to be honest, if we can save the $300+ for the document, we'd much prefer to do that. Especially if we won't really be able to use it anyway. His mother is coming to visit in the spring, and he's definitely a trooper, so he'll be ok waiting it out till he gets his green card. I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't a necessary document to fill out. If its optional, and like you said, pretty much useless for us at this point, then we'll bypass it altogether. So how's Ohio?...I'm excited to visit Canada, he tells me its similiar to NYC, except cleaner lol....I'll definitely be using the sample forms on VJ for our intensive paperwork session this weekend. Keep your eyes open for more Questions lol..thanks again

~~Chrissy~~

Awww I know where Victoria Park is, it is in the east side of Toronto mainly known as Scarborough, which is extremely far, from where I was at LOL, he would know that from being Toronto and me morely in west side techincally of Toronto, north york I dont know lol. I think you definately should see the civil surgeon just to make sure everything is cool. No you definately wouldnt want to get an RFE. Well you wont be saving $300, when you are filing concurrently, meaning the I-130 and I-1485 and the other supporting forms, the I-765 an I-131 is free and optional to file while waiting for the physical green card. Since he is an overstayer, it makes no sense to file it as, I know it must be hard for him to explain the situation back home to his friends and family, who I am sure cant wait for you guys to be able to travel. You definately have to be very very patient, theres a whole lot of waiting LOL. It is hard though not being able to travel, work etc etc freely when your in the process of immigration. Its good to know hes a trooper and it will be worth the wait in the end. I am glad that his mother is going to be able to come up to New Jersey to visit you guys. Ohio is a very nice state, I do love it here, people are very friendly and nice here, I dont regret living in this state, as I met some very cool people as well along the way. I am in a small town outside of Cleveland, I am like 45min away from Cleveland, so its a big change going from a big city to a small town, but I do like it here and I am getting use to it. You will definately love it there, theres plenty to do there. I do like the winters here in Ohio, way too much snow for my liking LOL as I am use to winter LOL, but it isnt cold and Toronto is less snow but really really cold, he can tell you that. He is right on what he told you about Toronto, thats how I describe Toronto to people here also. Definately use the resources here on VJ, they are very helpful. You guys can message me anytime if you have any questions about anything. How long has he been in the states for? What does he do to pass the time because he will definately be home a whole lot LOL and what kind of work does he want to get into once he can work? Tell me hes a leafs, raptors or blue jays fan? What do you do for work? Take care you guys and thanks again for replying back.

I meant to ask and it slipped my mind, if you dont mind me asking, how did you guys meet? I know I am asking alot of questions LOL, but what are the odds of meeting a canadian in the US. I met my wife on myspace, if you want to know. It was crazy that we were only like 4.5hrs drive from one another at the time.

Oops!! I601 is what I meant.

You mean the waiver form, what about it, I am quite confused with what you mean.

I601 is filed for those not being approved for their Green Card because of being inadmissable. Usually they have accrued unlawful status or left the country out of status and tried to re-enter the U.S.

Hope that helps.

Oh yes, I understand, thanks for clearing that up for mw. Are you saying this happened to you, beacuse you mentioned you had problems with ICE, immigration judge etc etc, or are you saying for them that they possibly have to file the I-601 or you had too.

[enno4eva 0]

Oh yes, I understand, thanks for clearing that up for mw. Are you saying this happened to you, beacuse you mentioned you had problems with ICE, immigration judge etc etc, or are you saying for them that they possibly have to file the I-601 or you had too.

It's possible. Not likely. Depends on the IO.

No, we did not have to. I got the case terminated by the judge. INS/USCIS made the errors and we're the victims and the Judge and the ICE attorneys agreed.

[Canadianmade 1]

Oh yes, I understand, thanks for clearing that up for mw. Are you saying this happened to you, beacuse you mentioned you had problems with ICE, immigration judge etc etc, or are you saying for them that they possibly have to file the I-601 or you had too.

It's possible. Not likely. Depends on the IO.

No, we did not have to. I got the case terminated by the judge. INS/USCIS made the errors and we're the victims and the Judge and the ICE attorneys agreed.

Oh ok makes sense. I read your post about your situation and replied to it, but all I can is, I am so sorry you had to go through all of this #######, you would think, if you do things the right and legal way, you would get results, but obviously we know the system is broken, just terrible and I am so upset for you honestly. Maybe a stupid question, but what are you feelings about this whole thing today looking back vs. the time you were going through it?

[kikkilee 0]

Yes, when your husband crossed over by train, he was inspected and given a 90 day visitor visa. One can apply for a Visitor Visa from 3 months to 10 years in their originating country as long as he/she meets some simple requirements. There are some countries that have a waiver for this Visa. Canada is not one of them. RATS! Just the same, when your husband came over, he most likely was enrolled in the US-VISIT entry-exit program. In addition, some travelers will also need to register their entry into and their departure from the U.S. with the National Security Exit Entry Registration System (NSEERS). Why is this important? Because, when we apply for the loves of our lives to be immigrated, USCIS will require the applicant to have a record of being properly admitted into the U.S. So, circumventing the system can be very bad for you. For example, let's say your husband is just too homesick and must hear a comfortable "eh!" and returns home with his passport. There's a hit for his departure. Then he "sneaks" back by driving across. I mean heck, CBP doesn't check EVERY car coming across. WRONG. Now, when you go to the interview, the IO will ask, "how did you return to the U.S.?" None of your answers will be a good so, you'll be told, "You left without A/P and you must refile because you abandoned your AOS!" OUCH!! EWWWWWWW. That's right, you have to start all over again. BUT, that's if the IO is nice. If not, they'll hand you a Notice to Appear in Immigration Court and you'll be fighting deportation. Don't get me wrong, you can and will get through that, but it will be a long and expensive process. Moreover, the IO is not going to understand and be sympathetic to, "We didn't get the A/P because we knew we were not eligible due to the unlawful status we've accrued." Way wrong answer. In fact, just for your entertainment...call an ICE attorney and they will say, IF YOU PLAN TO TRAVEL GET AN A/P PRIOR TO LEAVING!!

So get the A/P. You never know if your husband will have to leave because of a death in the family or some other family emergency. Believe it or not, there are members of DHS that do care and will help immigrants (i hear all of the grrrrrrrrrrrrrs). Leaving under those circumstances is classified as Humanitarian, but leaving w/out an A/P is the worst and nothing good will come of it. Having the A/P shows that you didn't follow the rules in the past but you are now. Make sense? So, remember, I would not use the A/P in your case to travel to watch the upcoming Australian Open Tennis Championships and expect to return without incident. But going home to Canada because your husband needs to...

Remember, we're all in this together!!! Good luck!

Hey Enno4eva

i hate to be such a pain, but im a lil confused with ur last post. As of now, the only requirements to visit the US by land are a birth certificate and photo ID. He didnt fill out any forms, didnt have his ticket scanned, and currently, you can visit the US for a total of 6 months at a time, from my understanding. My husband wasnt given any visa, he pretty much just got on the train to Niagara Falls...and at border patrol had his belongings inspected. he was asked if he was bringing anything illegal, they looked at his ticket and ID, asked how long he was stayin, he said 1 week, which at the time was accurate.....they also asked where he was staying, he didnt have my exact address, so border patrol called me to confirm. and that was it....he never enrolled in any of those programs you mentioned....i see you are also from Canada, so maybe you can tell me at what point the enrollment would have occurred. according to him, his ticket wasnt scanned or anything, so any clarification would be appreciated.

also, we will apply for the travel documents as well, like you said, god forbid there is any emergency, we'll be covered....at least on that end.

Canadian,

lol actually he is a blue jays fan.....but as far as hockey, its the senators all the way....i took him to the rangers/senators game a couple of weeks ago...would you believe, it was his first live NHL game...but it was a great day!!....yeah counterstrike, loads of fun lol....now we're into WoW which is an addiction in and of itself...but it passes the time...which he sorely needs....it sux to be stucc at home as much as he is...but we're determined to do this, and do it right...so we're hanging in there...lol

[Canadianmade 1]

Yes, when your husband crossed over by train, he was inspected and given a 90 day visitor visa. One can apply for a Visitor Visa from 3 months to 10 years in their originating country as long as he/she meets some simple requirements. There are some countries that have a waiver for this Visa. Canada is not one of them. RATS! Just the same, when your husband came over, he most likely was enrolled in the US-VISIT entry-exit program. In addition, some travelers will also need to register their entry into and their departure from the U.S. with the National Security Exit Entry Registration System (NSEERS). Why is this important? Because, when we apply for the loves of our lives to be immigrated, USCIS will require the applicant to have a record of being properly admitted into the U.S. So, circumventing the system can be very bad for you. For example, let's say your husband is just too homesick and must hear a comfortable "eh!" and returns home with his passport. There's a hit for his departure. Then he "sneaks" back by driving across. I mean heck, CBP doesn't check EVERY car coming across. WRONG. Now, when you go to the interview, the IO will ask, "how did you return to the U.S.?" None of your answers will be a good so, you'll be told, "You left without A/P and you must refile because you abandoned your AOS!" OUCH!! EWWWWWWW. That's right, you have to start all over again. BUT, that's if the IO is nice. If not, they'll hand you a Notice to Appear in Immigration Court and you'll be fighting deportation. Don't get me wrong, you can and will get through that, but it will be a long and expensive process. Moreover, the IO is not going to understand and be sympathetic to, "We didn't get the A/P because we knew we were not eligible due to the unlawful status we've accrued." Way wrong answer. In fact, just for your entertainment...call an ICE attorney and they will say, IF YOU PLAN TO TRAVEL GET AN A/P PRIOR TO LEAVING!!

So get the A/P. You never know if your husband will have to leave because of a death in the family or some other family emergency. Believe it or not, there are members of DHS that do care and will help immigrants (i hear all of the grrrrrrrrrrrrrs). Leaving under those circumstances is classified as Humanitarian, but leaving w/out an A/P is the worst and nothing good will come of it. Having the A/P shows that you didn't follow the rules in the past but you are now. Make sense? So, remember, I would not use the A/P in your case to travel to watch the upcoming Australian Open Tennis Championships and expect to return without incident. But going home to Canada because your husband needs to...

Remember, we're all in this together!!! Good luck!

Hey Enno4eva

i hate to be such a pain, but im a lil confused with ur last post. As of now, the only requirements to visit the US by land are a birth certificate and photo ID. He didnt fill out any forms, didnt have his ticket scanned, and currently, you can visit the US for a total of 6 months at a time, from my understanding. My husband wasnt given any visa, he pretty much just got on the train to Niagara Falls...and at border patrol had his belongings inspected. he was asked if he was bringing anything illegal, they looked at his ticket and ID, asked how long he was stayin, he said 1 week, which at the time was accurate.....they also asked where he was staying, he didnt have my exact address, so border patrol called me to confirm. and that was it....he never enrolled in any of those programs you mentioned....i see you are also from Canada, so maybe you can tell me at what point the enrollment would have occurred. according to him, his ticket wasnt scanned or anything, so any clarification would be appreciated.

also, we will apply for the travel documents as well, like you said, god forbid there is any emergency, we'll be covered....at least on that end.

Canadian,

lol actually he is a blue jays fan.....but as far as hockey, its the senators all the way....i took him to the rangers/senators game a couple of weeks ago...would you believe, it was his first live NHL game...but it was a great day!!....yeah counterstrike, loads of fun lol....now we're into WoW which is an addiction in and of itself...but it passes the time...which he sorely needs....it sux to be stucc at home as much as he is...but we're determined to do this, and do it right...so we're hanging in there...lol

Oh ok at least hes a fan of the blue jays so he passes LOL j/k. I dont blame him for being a senators fan and that is really cool you took him to a hockey game, it is expensive to watch a leafs game. It sure is a good and intresting story how you both met what are the odds of that. Yeah whatever he can do to pass the time, well I am always checking out VJ and checking my staus on AOS LOL. One more thing, when you do file your AOS and when you do get an interview, dont be surprised if they raise the question about proving intent and also the overstay, those will be the questions they will bring up and also make sure you have plenty of evidence of a bonafide marriage, now, during the AOS process leading up to the interview, make sure you guys get plenty of things jointly as possible, such as a lease, joint bank accounts, life insurance, health insurance etc etc, you wont have much stuff now, since you have been married for 6 months. It is hard to get stuff jointly when the foriegn spouse isnt a citizen and the jumping of hoops with having an SSN number for mostly everything. You may be able to add his name to things with a passport, as my wife and I were able to open a bank account with my passport, the bank is called hunnington bank, I was able to get on her life insurance and we are working on more evidence in the meantime as well. In the new yr, we will be getting health insurance, credit cards jointly that type of stuff. In regards to the AP, you can file it, as its free, but not to sound like pete and repeat, but as shitty as it sounds, it wont be wise to use it in his prior situation in the moment, eventhough its sad if theres a real family emergency, you wont be able to use it. What kind of documents did he come with, just being curious? I get the impression from reading your reply back to enno4eva, he didnt have much ID on him.

[kikkilee 0]

Yes, when your husband crossed over by train, he was inspected and given a 90 day visitor visa. One can apply for a Visitor Visa from 3 months to 10 years in their originating country as long as he/she meets some simple requirements. There are some countries that have a waiver for this Visa. Canada is not one of them. RATS! Just the same, when your husband came over, he most likely was enrolled in the US-VISIT entry-exit program. In addition, some travelers will also need to register their entry into and their departure from the U.S. with the National Security Exit Entry Registration System (NSEERS). Why is this important? Because, when we apply for the loves of our lives to be immigrated, USCIS will require the applicant to have a record of being properly admitted into the U.S. So, circumventing the system can be very bad for you. For example, let's say your husband is just too homesick and must hear a comfortable "eh!" and returns home with his passport. There's a hit for his departure. Then he "sneaks" back by driving across. I mean heck, CBP doesn't check EVERY car coming across. WRONG. Now, when you go to the interview, the IO will ask, "how did you return to the U.S.?" None of your answers will be a good so, you'll be told, "You left without A/P and you must refile because you abandoned your AOS!" OUCH!! EWWWWWWW. That's right, you have to start all over again. BUT, that's if the IO is nice. If not, they'll hand you a Notice to Appear in Immigration Court and you'll be fighting deportation. Don't get me wrong, you can and will get through that, but it will be a long and expensive process. Moreover, the IO is not going to understand and be sympathetic to, "We didn't get the A/P because we knew we were not eligible due to the unlawful status we've accrued." Way wrong answer. In fact, just for your entertainment...call an ICE attorney and they will say, IF YOU PLAN TO TRAVEL GET AN A/P PRIOR TO LEAVING!!

So get the A/P. You never know if your husband will have to leave because of a death in the family or some other family emergency. Believe it or not, there are members of DHS that do care and will help immigrants (i hear all of the grrrrrrrrrrrrrs). Leaving under those circumstances is classified as Humanitarian, but leaving w/out an A/P is the worst and nothing good will come of it. Having the A/P shows that you didn't follow the rules in the past but you are now. Make sense? So, remember, I would not use the A/P in your case to travel to watch the upcoming Australian Open Tennis Championships and expect to return without incident. But going home to Canada because your husband needs to...

Remember, we're all in this together!!! Good luck!

Hey Enno4eva

i hate to be such a pain, but im a lil confused with ur last post. As of now, the only requirements to visit the US by land are a birth certificate and photo ID. He didnt fill out any forms, didnt have his ticket scanned, and currently, you can visit the US for a total of 6 months at a time, from my understanding. My husband wasnt given any visa, he pretty much just got on the train to Niagara Falls...and at border patrol had his belongings inspected. he was asked if he was bringing anything illegal, they looked at his ticket and ID, asked how long he was stayin, he said 1 week, which at the time was accurate.....they also asked where he was staying, he didnt have my exact address, so border patrol called me to confirm. and that was it....he never enrolled in any of those programs you mentioned....i see you are also from Canada, so maybe you can tell me at what point the enrollment would have occurred. according to him, his ticket wasnt scanned or anything, so any clarification would be appreciated.

also, we will apply for the travel documents as well, like you said, god forbid there is any emergency, we'll be covered....at least on that end.

Canadian,

lol actually he is a blue jays fan.....but as far as hockey, its the senators all the way....i took him to the rangers/senators game a couple of weeks ago...would you believe, it was his first live NHL game...but it was a great day!!....yeah counterstrike, loads of fun lol....now we're into WoW which is an addiction in and of itself...but it passes the time...which he sorely needs....it sux to be stucc at home as much as he is...but we're determined to do this, and do it right...so we're hanging in there...lol

Oh ok at least hes a fan of the blue jays so he passes LOL j/k. I dont blame him for being a senators fan and that is really cool you took him to a hockey game, it is expensive to watch a leafs game. It sure is a good and intresting story how you both met what are the odds of that. Yeah whatever he can do to pass the time, well I am always checking out VJ and checking my staus on AOS LOL. One more thing, when you do file your AOS and when you do get an interview, dont be surprised if they raise the question about proving intent and also the overstay, those will be the questions they will bring up and also make sure you have plenty of evidence of a bonafide marriage, now, during the AOS process leading up to the interview, make sure you guys get plenty of things jointly as possible, such as a lease, joint bank accounts, life insurance, health insurance etc etc, you wont have much stuff now, since you have been married for 6 months. It is hard to get stuff jointly when the foriegn spouse isnt a citizen and the jumping of hoops with having an SSN number for mostly everything. You may be able to add his name to things with a passport, as my wife and I were able to open a bank account with my passport, the bank is called hunnington bank, I was able to get on her life insurance and we are working on more evidence in the meantime as well. In the new yr, we will be getting health insurance, credit cards jointly that type of stuff. In regards to the AP, you can file it, as its free, but not to sound like pete and repeat, but as shitty as it sounds, it wont be wise to use it in his prior situation in the moment, eventhough its sad if theres a real family emergency, you wont be able to use it. What kind of documents did he come with, just being curious? I get the impression from reading your reply back to enno4eva, he didnt have much ID on him.

Hey Canadian, I'm in the process now of puttin all utility bills in both our names...And adding him to our lease, as well as changing my name....been told different things on how to go about doing that as well lol.....and yeah ur right, w/o a SSN it will probably be harder, but imma get as much as I can in both our names....and no, he didnt come with a whole lot of ID on him....Just his birth certificate, and Health card....the health card is expired, so I'm not sure how we're gonna go about obtaining a new one...lol..i tell ya, its just one obstacle after another....BUT i know we'll get through it and hopefully this time next year, our lives will be in order lol...yay cant wait...so how is the wait with you....I'm assuming we'll be doin this process for me to get some sort of resident status in Canada...but hopefully it won't be 2 difficult..and at least we'll be able to come back to the states often...how about u? is your wife planning on going through the process for Canada?....

[Canadianmade 1]

Yes, when your husband crossed over by train, he was inspected and given a 90 day visitor visa. One can apply for a Visitor Visa from 3 months to 10 years in their originating country as long as he/she meets some simple requirements. There are some countries that have a waiver for this Visa. Canada is not one of them. RATS! Just the same, when your husband came over, he most likely was enrolled in the US-VISIT entry-exit program. In addition, some travelers will also need to register their entry into and their departure from the U.S. with the National Security Exit Entry Registration System (NSEERS). Why is this important? Because, when we apply for the loves of our lives to be immigrated, USCIS will require the applicant to have a record of being properly admitted into the U.S. So, circumventing the system can be very bad for you. For example, let's say your husband is just too homesick and must hear a comfortable "eh!" and returns home with his passport. There's a hit for his departure. Then he "sneaks" back by driving across. I mean heck, CBP doesn't check EVERY car coming across. WRONG. Now, when you go to the interview, the IO will ask, "how did you return to the U.S.?" None of your answers will be a good so, you'll be told, "You left without A/P and you must refile because you abandoned your AOS!" OUCH!! EWWWWWWW. That's right, you have to start all over again. BUT, that's if the IO is nice. If not, they'll hand you a Notice to Appear in Immigration Court and you'll be fighting deportation. Don't get me wrong, you can and will get through that, but it will be a long and expensive process. Moreover, the IO is not going to understand and be sympathetic to, "We didn't get the A/P because we knew we were not eligible due to the unlawful status we've accrued." Way wrong answer. In fact, just for your entertainment...call an ICE attorney and they will say, IF YOU PLAN TO TRAVEL GET AN A/P PRIOR TO LEAVING!!

So get the A/P. You never know if your husband will have to leave because of a death in the family or some other family emergency. Believe it or not, there are members of DHS that do care and will help immigrants (i hear all of the grrrrrrrrrrrrrs). Leaving under those circumstances is classified as Humanitarian, but leaving w/out an A/P is the worst and nothing good will come of it. Having the A/P shows that you didn't follow the rules in the past but you are now. Make sense? So, remember, I would not use the A/P in your case to travel to watch the upcoming Australian Open Tennis Championships and expect to return without incident. But going home to Canada because your husband needs to...

Remember, we're all in this together!!! Good luck!

Hey Enno4eva

i hate to be such a pain, but im a lil confused with ur last post. As of now, the only requirements to visit the US by land are a birth certificate and photo ID. He didnt fill out any forms, didnt have his ticket scanned, and currently, you can visit the US for a total of 6 months at a time, from my understanding. My husband wasnt given any visa, he pretty much just got on the train to Niagara Falls...and at border patrol had his belongings inspected. he was asked if he was bringing anything illegal, they looked at his ticket and ID, asked how long he was stayin, he said 1 week, which at the time was accurate.....they also asked where he was staying, he didnt have my exact address, so border patrol called me to confirm. and that was it....he never enrolled in any of those programs you mentioned....i see you are also from Canada, so maybe you can tell me at what point the enrollment would have occurred. according to him, his ticket wasnt scanned or anything, so any clarification would be appreciated.

also, we will apply for the travel documents as well, like you said, god forbid there is any emergency, we'll be covered....at least on that end.

Canadian,

lol actually he is a blue jays fan.....but as far as hockey, its the senators all the way....i took him to the rangers/senators game a couple of weeks ago...would you believe, it was his first live NHL game...but it was a great day!!....yeah counterstrike, loads of fun lol....now we're into WoW which is an addiction in and of itself...but it passes the time...which he sorely needs....it sux to be stucc at home as much as he is...but we're determined to do this, and do it right...so we're hanging in there...lol

Oh ok at least hes a fan of the blue jays so he passes LOL j/k. I dont blame him for being a senators fan and that is really cool you took him to a hockey game, it is expensive to watch a leafs game. It sure is a good and intresting story how you both met what are the odds of that. Yeah whatever he can do to pass the time, well I am always checking out VJ and checking my staus on AOS LOL. One more thing, when you do file your AOS and when you do get an interview, dont be surprised if they raise the question about proving intent and also the overstay, those will be the questions they will bring up and also make sure you have plenty of evidence of a bonafide marriage, now, during the AOS process leading up to the interview, make sure you guys get plenty of things jointly as possible, such as a lease, joint bank accounts, life insurance, health insurance etc etc, you wont have much stuff now, since you have been married for 6 months. It is hard to get stuff jointly when the foriegn spouse isnt a citizen and the jumping of hoops with having an SSN number for mostly everything. You may be able to add his name to things with a passport, as my wife and I were able to open a bank account with my passport, the bank is called hunnington bank, I was able to get on her life insurance and we are working on more evidence in the meantime as well. In the new yr, we will be getting health insurance, credit cards jointly that type of stuff. In regards to the AP, you can file it, as its free, but not to sound like pete and repeat, but as shitty as it sounds, it wont be wise to use it in his prior situation in the moment, eventhough its sad if theres a real family emergency, you wont be able to use it. What kind of documents did he come with, just being curious? I get the impression from reading your reply back to enno4eva, he didnt have much ID on him.

Hey Canadian, I'm in the process now of puttin all utility bills in both our names...And adding him to our lease, as well as changing my name....been told different things on how to go about doing that as well lol.....and yeah ur right, w/o a SSN it will probably be harder, but imma get as much as I can in both our names....and no, he didnt come with a whole lot of ID on him....Just his birth certificate, and Health card....the health card is expired, so I'm not sure how we're gonna go about obtaining a new one...lol..i tell ya, its just one obstacle after another....BUT i know we'll get through it and hopefully this time next year, our lives will be in order lol...yay cant wait...so how is the wait with you....I'm assuming we'll be doin this process for me to get some sort of resident status in Canada...but hopefully it won't be 2 difficult..and at least we'll be able to come back to the states often...how about u? is your wife planning on going through the process for Canada?....

Oh ok good, you are definately in the right track. All you can do is do your best and put as much stuff jointly as possible. It is hard to do stuff jointly without an SSN, but also since you mentioned, he doesnt have much ID on him, does he have a passport? If he doesnt, hes going to need to apply for one in the US, because in the interview, they are going to ask if he has a passport, thats the strongest ID to have. Inregards to the health card issue, we wont be able to renew his health card unless in person and right now in your guys's situation that wont be possible. Also he is now considered to be out of the province because hes been gone for over a yr. Did he file his T4, for 2007 because, I dont know if it will come to play and I am just plain old paranoid like that, but somethings are going to have to be in order back in Canada. 1) Apply for his Ontario long form birth certificate, hes going to need a grantor to get it, so if he knows a family doctor or someone of a elite profession, it lists the type of occupations that can be a grantor and the info on it, on the site. You can apply for it online and all you have to do is get the info from that grantor and ask for their permission and fill it in. I applied for mine here in Ohio, I put it on a mastercard debit card because they do ask for credit cards for payments only. It took me only 5 days to receive mine when the site says it can take up to 6 to 8 weeks, I believe. 2) I am not positive about the tax issue, if they look into, if you filed income taxes or not in Canada, but again I can be wrong, but I just made sure I did just in case. 3) Hes going to need a passport, because what he has as ID isnt going to suffice to be quite honest. You can always apply for one online within the US, also hes going to need a grantor for the passport, again like a doctor, judge etc etc. There are plenty of obstacles in this immigration journey, I can tell you that, but we are all here in it together and going through the same ride. You guys will be ok and you will live life after all of this. My wife and I have discussed about going back to Canada, we might go back after I become a US citizen, so we can freely travel between both countries. I dont think the Canadian immigration journey isnt so crazy as it is the US immigration, who knows, I could be wrong. We arent too sure yet. Inregards to my immigration journey everything is going good so far, *knock on wood*. I am just trying to help you guys out and I hope I am not overwhelming you or confusing you in any way.

[kikkilee 0]

Oh ok good, you are definately in the right track. All you can do is do your best and put as much stuff jointly as possible. It is hard to do stuff jointly without an SSN, but also since you mentioned, he doesnt have much ID on him, does he have a passport? If he doesnt, hes going to need to apply for one in the US, because in the interview, they are going to ask if he has a passport, thats the strongest ID to have. Inregards to the health card issue, we wont be able to renew his health card unless in person and right now in your guys's situation that wont be possible. Also he is now considered to be out of the province because hes been gone for over a yr. Did he file his T4, for 2007 because, I dont know if it will come to play and I am just plain old paranoid like that, but somethings are going to have to be in order back in Canada. 1) Apply for his Ontario long form birth certificate, hes going to need a grantor to get it, so if he knows a family doctor or someone of a elite profession, it lists the type of occupations that can be a grantor and the info on it, on the site. You can apply for it online and all you have to do is get the info from that grantor and ask for their permission and fill it in. I applied for mine here in Ohio, I put it on a mastercard debit card because they do ask for credit cards for payments only. It took me only 5 days to receive mine when the site says it can take up to 6 to 8 weeks, I believe. 2) I am not positive about the tax issue, if they look into, if you filed income taxes or not in Canada, but again I can be wrong, but I just made sure I did just in case. 3) Hes going to need a passport, because what he has as ID isnt going to suffice to be quite honest. You can always apply for one online within the US, also hes going to need a grantor for the passport, again like a doctor, judge etc etc. There are plenty of obstacles in this immigration journey, I can tell you that, but we are all here in it together and going through the same ride. You guys will be ok and you will live life after all of this. My wife and I have discussed about going back to Canada, we might go back after I become a US citizen, so we can freely travel between both countries. I dont think the Canadian immigration journey isnt so crazy as it is the US immigration, who knows, I could be wrong. We arent too sure yet. Inregards to my immigration journey everything is going good so far, *knock on wood*. I am just trying to help you guys out and I hope I am not overwhelming you or confusing you in any way.

Hey Canadian, not confusing at all...actually, u and every1 else has been such a great help in doing this....it's very comforting to kno that there are other people out there willing to help in the same situation......it is much appreciated, especially since I can't seem to get a human to talk to when calling the USCIS customer service number lol....will definitely be applying for the long form birth certificate....and as far as the health card, I didn't think he'd be able to apply for that online as well....but the passport seems like a good idea, I wasnt aware you could apply for that online as well.....I hope what he has currently for documentation will suffice........glad to hear the process is going ok for you guys......the waiting game must be loads of fun lol.....to be honest, i'm looking forward to waiting, at least we'll have the ball rolling....such a shame that we got jerked, it woulda been 6 months in a couple weeks....>:-[...but u can only move forward now...no sense in dwelling on the past....thanx again for all the info....

~~Chrissy~~

[Canadianmade 1]

Oh ok good, you are definately in the right track. All you can do is do your best and put as much stuff jointly as possible. It is hard to do stuff jointly without an SSN, but also since you mentioned, he doesnt have much ID on him, does he have a passport? If he doesnt, hes going to need to apply for one in the US, because in the interview, they are going to ask if he has a passport, thats the strongest ID to have. Inregards to the health card issue, we wont be able to renew his health card unless in person and right now in your guys's situation that wont be possible. Also he is now considered to be out of the province because hes been gone for over a yr. Did he file his T4, for 2007 because, I dont know if it will come to play and I am just plain old paranoid like that, but somethings are going to have to be in order back in Canada. 1) Apply for his Ontario long form birth certificate, hes going to need a grantor to get it, so if he knows a family doctor or someone of a elite profession, it lists the type of occupations that can be a grantor and the info on it, on the site. You can apply for it online and all you have to do is get the info from that grantor and ask for their permission and fill it in. I applied for mine here in Ohio, I put it on a mastercard debit card because they do ask for credit cards for payments only. It took me only 5 days to receive mine when the site says it can take up to 6 to 8 weeks, I believe. 2) I am not positive about the tax issue, if they look into, if you filed income taxes or not in Canada, but again I can be wrong, but I just made sure I did just in case. 3) Hes going to need a passport, because what he has as ID isnt going to suffice to be quite honest. You can always apply for one online within the US, also hes going to need a grantor for the passport, again like a doctor, judge etc etc. There are plenty of obstacles in this immigration journey, I can tell you that, but we are all here in it together and going through the same ride. You guys will be ok and you will live life after all of this. My wife and I have discussed about going back to Canada, we might go back after I become a US citizen, so we can freely travel between both countries. I dont think the Canadian immigration journey isnt so crazy as it is the US immigration, who knows, I could be wrong. We arent too sure yet. Inregards to my immigration journey everything is going good so far, *knock on wood*. I am just trying to help you guys out and I hope I am not overwhelming you or confusing you in any way.

Hey Canadian, not confusing at all...actually, u and every1 else has been such a great help in doing this....it's very comforting to kno that there are other people out there willing to help in the same situation......it is much appreciated, especially since I can't seem to get a human to talk to when calling the USCIS customer service number lol....will definitely be applying for the long form birth certificate....and as far as the health card, I didn't think he'd be able to apply for that online as well....but the passport seems like a good idea, I wasnt aware you could apply for that online as well.....I hope what he has currently for documentation will suffice........glad to hear the process is going ok for you guys......the waiting game must be loads of fun lol.....to be honest, i'm looking forward to waiting, at least we'll have the ball rolling....such a shame that we got jerked, it woulda been 6 months in a couple weeks....>:-[...but u can only move forward now...no sense in dwelling on the past....thanx again for all the info....

~~Chrissy~~

Ok good, I am more than glad the info given wasnt confusing and glad to be a help. I am willing to help out anyone in this process, as much as I can, but I am more wanting to help out other Canadians because we have the same type of documents and we also know the process of how to get certain Canadian realted documents. You will need the long form birth certificate, type in ontario birth certificate in google and you should get results. Yes you can apply for a passport online and the documents might get you buy, but to be honest, the documents he has isnt really strong ID. Yeah the process is going well so far and yeah let me tell you the wait is loads of fun LOL. You will definately enjoy the long wait and the constant checking on the USCIS website etc etc. How did you guys get jerked? Your welcome for the info and good luck.