FBI uniform crime statistics

[justashooter 430]

in a recent thread in this forum someone asked if all black men were thugs. the post was locked as the discussion digressed. personally, i know quite a few really nice black guys, but the statistics are alarming. we can sit and argue the causes of the statistics all day long, but in the end, if the man holding a gun to your head is black, he is black. if he is an illegal mexican, he is an illegal mexican.

since i recently researched this issue at the request of someone on another forum that is controlled access, i thought it was worthwhile to post the text and links here. i am not a racist, but having eyes that see and ears that hear, i believe that while color is not an issue, ethnic culture is.

our government will not allow me to effect a remediation of my preffered means and method, therefore i write. in the interest of our own personal safety, we should be aware that we are statistically more likely to be victim to a violent crime when exposed to certain segments of society. we should, therefore, increase our awareness when in such situations, if we are not able to avoid them entirely.

urban areas are inherently more dangerous, and persons of marginalised culture are more likely to commit crimes of violence, despite what the left is telling us. the recent increases in illegal immigrant population coming from central america are particularly troubling, in this sense. crime in this micro-community is underreported for many reasons, so actually more serious than the statistics indicate.

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google is your friend:

before you read the FBI UCR page, read the census page to see what percentage of people in the US are black and hispanic:

http://www.censusscope.org/us/chart_race.html

2000 year report: looks like 12% of people in US are black, to me. this consistently from 1980 to 2000. interestingly enough, whites have fallen from 79% in 1980, to 69% in 2000. hispanics increase has caused most of this shift going from 6.5 to 12.5, with asian going from 1.5 to 3.7 in same period. change in minor segments of the population and an added category for bi-racial, at 1.6% in 2000, explains the seeming contradiction in totals.

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now for what you have been waiting for.

base page:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm

2007 statistics:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/arrests/index.html

In 2007, 75.8 percent of all persons arrested were male, 81.8 percent of persons arrested for violent crime were male, and 66.6 percent of persons arrested for property crime were male. (See Table 42.)

The majority (69.7 percent) of persons arrested in 2007 were white. Whites accounted for 58.9 and 67.9 percent of persons arrested for violent crimes and property crimes, respectively.

White juveniles comprised 67.0 percent of juveniles arrested in 2007.

Black juveniles accounted for 50.7 percent of juveniles arrested for violent crime, and white juveniles comprised 65.7 percent of juveniles arrested for property crime. (See Table 43.)

race tables:

in cities:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/table_43.html

blacks commit 50% of murders, 33% of rapes, 56% of robberies, 40% unlawful weapons carrying.

metro counties:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/table_55.html

blacks commit 36% of murders, 23% of rapes, 53% of robberies, 34% unlawful weapons carrying.

non-metro counties:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/table_61.html

blacks commit 26% of murders, 14% of rapes, 44% of robberies, 21% unlawful weapons carrying.

suburban areas:

blacks commit 42% of murders, 25% of rapes, 52% of robberies, 33% unlawful weapons carrying.

in all areas:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/table_43.html

composit result.

looks to me like blacks commit 2-4 times as much violent crime as they should, and that you are statistically most likely to be a victim of a violent black criminal in cities and suburban areas, with metro counties less so, followed by non-metro counties. this makes sense, as blacks as a percentage of the general population are distributed in such a manner.

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what is really interesting and statistically relevant is the rate of current incarceration. this kind of thing is hard to find in a google search. most replies to a google querry are heavily biased complaints, alleging that blacks are not treated the same as whites for similar crimes. this may be so in non-violent crimes due to poor legal representation and thereby reduced ability to avoid incarceration, but last i checked, white people serve time for murder too. seems to me that the higher rate of violent criminal activity among blacks explains the higher incarceration rate. blacks get more time for murder and rape than whites do for fraud and drunk driving. i have no problem with that, and the statistics back me up.

this 2001 report is illuminating:

http://www.sentencingproject.org/Ad..._staterates.pdf

in penna, 2.5% of blacks and 0.24 % of whites are in jail at any given moment.

in texas it's 3.3% and .64%. in most states the ratio is between 4 to 1 and 7 to 1. hawaii is the only state that comes close to parity, with .6% to .45%. nationwide, the numbers look like 2.2% to .37%, for a 6 to 1 disproportional incarceration rate.

a similar 2000 report confirms, and increases the noted differential, again claiming injustice in the process:

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/usa/Rcedrg00-01.htm

a comparable table from the report giving rate by state:

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/usa/Table5.pdf

"The disproportionate representation of black Americans in the U.S. criminal justice system is well documented. Blacks comprise 13 percent of the national population, but 30 percent of people arrested, 41 percent of people in jail, and 49 percent of those in prison. Nine percent of all black adults are under some form of correctional supervision (in jail or prison, on probation or parole), compared to two percent of white adults. One in three black men between the ages of 20 and 29 was either in jail or prison, or on parole or probation in 1995. One in ten black men in their twenties and early thirties is in prison or jail. Thirteen percent of the black adult male population has lost the right to vote because of felony disenfranchisement laws. (eta- unless they meet an acorn)

Nationwide, black men are incarcerated at 9.6 times the rate of white men. ...Because of their extraordinary rate of incarceration, one in every 20 black men over the age of 18 is in a state or federal prison, compared to one in every 180 whites...Men constitute 93.5% of all inmates."

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inescapable is the fact that the persons currently incarcerated are removed from the general population and not commiting crimes freely, so this factor must be adjusted into the equation. if a lot of blacks are in jail, then the ones not in jail must be commiting crimes at a rate that calculates as even higher per capita than you would think.

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data on hispanic criminal activity is hard to come by. hispanics were grouped with whites until recent years, and some researchers believe that anglo whites are taking a black eye on behalf of hispanics, who commit crimes at a higher rates than anglos, and for crime reporting statistics, are usually grouped with anglos.

here is an example of what is out there:

http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/061215_nd.htm

"Ideally, we would like to examine data on offenses and arrests by race and Hispanic ethnicity. Unfortunately, the Department of Justice’s crime stats lump Hispanic perpetrators in with non-Hispanic whites. This has the effect of narrowing the gap between black and white crime rates (by inflating the white rate) while suppressing information on Hispanic criminality.

Inescapable conclusion: many DOJ bureaucrats are too PC to present the truth on immigrant, largely Hispanic, criminality. Luckily, the folks who prepare the incarceration statistics for DOJ didn’t get the memo. Their statistics distinguish between Hispanic, non-Hispanic white, and non-Hispanic black prisoners. (Wow! Can data for the foreign-born of each group be far behind?) These incarceration statistics also show the type of crime for which prisoners of each race were convicted.

In 2003, the latest available data, there were 219,200 Hispanics in state correctional facilities and 39.9 million Hispanics in the U.S. population. That’s an incarceration rate of 549 per 100,000 population.

The incarceration rate for non-Hispanic whites was 230 per 100,000—or less than half the Hispanic rate.

The black incarceration rate—1,580 per 100,000— was 2.9-times the Hispanic rate and 6.9-times the white rate.

For every offense except fraud, Hispanic incarceration rates were above those of whites. (Table 1.) For example:

Murder: Hispanic: 72 per 100,000 white: 24 per 100,000

Robbery: Hispanic: 71 per 100,000 white: 20 per 100,000

Assault: Hispanic: 70 per 100,000 white: 20 per 100,000

Drug offenses: Hispanic: 126 per 100,000 white: 33 per 100,000

Motor vehicle theft: Hispanic: 12 per 100,000 white: 4 per 100,000

Harvard’s Professor Sampson does not deny the incarceration rate gap, and even acknowledges that Hispanic crime may be underreported because of immigrants’ aversion to interacting with the authorities. Yet he insists the higher immigration, lower crime linkage is real."

another interesting page, with color maps that are really shocking:

http://www.vdare.com/Sailer/050213_mapping.htm

"Nationally, Hispanics are on average 3.7 times as likely as whites to be imprisoned.

The most unequal ratio is seen in the Mid-Atlantic, where the bad behavior of Puerto Ricans and Dominicans contrasts sharply with the good behavior of Italians, Jews, and Yankees...

The Hispanic crime rate is lower than the African-American mark. But at the current pace of immigration, legal and illegal, the number of Hispanic criminals should exceed the current number of black criminals within a few decades.

Immigrants may not have built America, but they are certainly building its prison population."

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one feature of the question that i do not often see mentioned is the age distribution demographic. as a result of roe v wade, there are less younger whites in the white population as a whole today than there were in 1970. roe v wade seems to have had little effect on blacks and hispanics, despite the claims of those who decry abortion as a genocide of ethnic minorities. the reverse is actually the case.

persons most likely to commit a violent crime are men between the ages of 17 and 35. about 30 million white children have been aborted since 1970 (another crime of violence better discussed in another thread, and telling in the population shift figures already quoted). less than 2 million black children were aborted in the same period. it could be that whites are just aging out, and that recent reductions in violent crime between 1990 and 2000 were related to the large scale legalised murder of white children beginning in 1970, more than anything else. you will never hear gun control proponents talking about this, that's for sure. i am sure the hispanics will pick up the slack for us, as is already evidenced by increases in violent crime per capita in recent years.

in any case, pennsylvania law enforcement must have had enough of it. the hispanic incarceration rate in penna is through the roof. higher per capita than the black incarceration rate. i knew those guys in the funny hats were good for something.

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"In THAT direction," the Jin said, waving its right paw round, "lives a Han: And in THAT direction," waving the other paw, "lives a Ming Hare. Visit either you like: they're both mad."

"But I don't want to go among mad people," Max remarked.

"Oh, you can't help that," said the Jin: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."

"How do you know I'm mad?" said Max.

"You must be," said the Jin, "or you wouldn't have come here."

Last edited by justashooter on October 14, 2008 at 08: