Radical Ties and Hate Speech in the Immigration Debate

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Smoke, The supporters of liberal law breakers of USA immigration are in the house!

of courseee

we needed zqt's wise comments!!!

the whole gang is here now

now the gangs all here.

yah i know. it makes them feel good to trash everyone that doesn't support illegal immigration. status quo around here.

It might prove beneficial to notice- even in this thread, and point out by name those posters that SUPPORTS illegal immigration.

its pretty simple to see isn't it. all the people slinging insults in this & every other thread about illegal immigration...i.e. you & your crew of gringo haters.

¿Qué?

Again... I must ask you to refer to read the thread and every other thread about the topic if you must.

I had no idea- and this is my own opinion on the topic- that being a compassionate human being interested in decreasing the symptom that is illegal immigration by attacking the problem head-on by not rewarding corrupt governments that profiteer along with some of our own profiteering schemes, would be capable of the "gringo-hating" monicker. Is that some sort of synonym for Anti-American too?

Then again... it is pretty simple to see and read.

As for the insults well... mea culpa and vice versa.

Not to mention of course that quoting the posts of total nutbags as though they represent cogent views on the subject of illegal immigration doesn't exactly fit the definition of a credible argument.

I think that falls under the observation that sometimes, some people insult themselves yet blame others.

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FWIW SMOKE, I don't think YOU are a nutbag. Perhaps a bit misguided with your interpretation of what's written, but that can be fixed by reading.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Smoke, The supporters of liberal law breakers of USA immigration are in the house!

of courseee

we needed zqt's wise comments!!!

the whole gang is here now

now the gangs all here.

yah i know. it makes them feel good to trash everyone that doesn't support illegal immigration. status quo around here.

It might prove beneficial to notice- even in this thread, and point out by name those posters that SUPPORTS illegal immigration.

its pretty simple to see isn't it. all the people slinging insults in this & every other thread about illegal immigration...i.e. you & your crew of gringo haters.

¿Qué?

Again... I must ask you to refer to read the thread and every other thread about the topic if you must.

I had no idea- and this is my own opinion on the topic- that being a compassionate human being interested in decreasing the symptom that is illegal immigration by attacking the problem head-on by not rewarding corrupt governments that profiteer along with some of our own profiteering schemes, would be capable of the "gringo-hating" monicker. Is that some sort of synonym for Anti-American too?

Then again... it is pretty simple to see and read.

As for the insults well... mea culpa and vice versa.

Not to mention of course that quoting the posts of total nutbags as though they represent cogent views on the subject of illegal immigration doesn't exactly fit the definition of a credible argument.

who are you calling a nutbag? pedroh, zqt, mavi, or yourself since i just quoted your verbal diarrhea this time?

Dunno Smoke - who was it who quoted ZQT as though he/she/it had a point to make?

Good luck with the one-liners BTW. Its all you have.

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FWIW SMOKE, I don't think YOU are a nutbag. Perhaps a bit misguided with your interpretation of what's written, but that can be fixed by reading.

misguided reading peoples posts over the last 6 months or so has given me a very clear interpretation of how people view different subjects & how they like to word insults to others mavi. ....oh sorry i quoted you....6 thinks your a nutbag now.

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FWIW SMOKE, I don't think YOU are a nutbag. Perhaps a bit misguided with your interpretation of what's written, but that can be fixed by reading.

misguided reading peoples posts over the last 6 months or so has given me a very clear interpretation of how people view different subjects & how they like to word insults to others mavi. ....oh sorry i quoted you....6 thinks your a nutbag now.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it...

(Note - that wasn't a question )

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FWIW SMOKE, I don't think YOU are a nutbag. Perhaps a bit misguided with your interpretation of what's written, but that can be fixed by reading.

misguided reading peoples posts over the last 6 months or so has given me a very clear interpretation of how people view different subjects & how they like to word insults to others mavi. ....oh sorry i quoted you....6 thinks your a nutbag now.

So I guess right now might be a good time for you to list those people and those typical insults.

I don't think 6 thinks you're nutty either. Perhaps on another ideological and personality wavelength but we know that is part of the spice of life.

And yes... some prefer different levels of subtlety.

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FWIW SMOKE, I don't think YOU are a nutbag. Perhaps a bit misguided with your interpretation of what's written, but that can be fixed by reading.

misguided reading peoples posts over the last 6 months or so has given me a very clear interpretation of how people view different subjects & how they like to word insults to others mavi. ....oh sorry i quoted you....6 thinks your a nutbag now.

So I guess right now might be a good time for you to list those people and those typical insults.

I don't think 6 thinks you're nutty either. Perhaps on another ideological and personality wavelength but we know that is part of the spice of life.

And yes... some prefer different levels of subtlety.

Pretty much.

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Dunno Smoke - who was it who quoted ZQT as though he/she/it had a point to make?

Good luck with the one-liners BTW. Its all you have.

i responded to his quote of my post

FWIW SMOKE, I don't think YOU are a nutbag. Perhaps a bit misguided with your interpretation of what's written, but that can be fixed by reading.

misguided reading peoples posts over the last 6 months or so has given me a very clear interpretation of how people view different subjects & how they like to word insults to others mavi. ....oh sorry i quoted you....6 thinks your a nutbag now.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it...

(Note - that wasn't a question )

refer to your last insult to answer this one.

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So it seems you and 6 have issues you could take up privately?

I'm in no way making suggestions, just observations.

I, for one- and perhaps others can chime in... do agree with his assessment that there are very immature "mental-like" patients posting here with very characteristic traits. I don't think that ignoring these traits just because you happen to agree with their particular point of view on a topic is the best way to debate something.

Edited August 14, 2008 by maviwaro

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So it seems you and 6 have issues you could take up privately?

I'm in no way making suggestions, just observations.

I, for one- and perhaps others can chime in... do agree with his assessment that there are very immature "mental-like" patients posting here with very characteristic traits. I don't think that ignoring these traits just because you happen to agree with their particular point of view on a topic is the best way to debate something.

Just pointing out that someone who bowls into a thread with trite one-liners, then goes and quotes a blatant troll (ZQT) in order to make a cheap shot about people who "support illegal immigration" and "gringo haters" doesn't have a great deal of credibility.

The usual VJ fare. Don't think but post anyway.

Edited August 14, 2008 by Number 6

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I do agree with you... I just think it better to save the fuel for arguments worth arguing instead of fueling the troll-fire.

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I do agree with you... I just think it better to save the fuel for arguments worth arguing instead of fueling the troll-fire.

True enough.

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So it seems you and 6 have issues you could take up privately?

I'm in no way making suggestions, just observations.

I, for one- and perhaps others can chime in... do agree with his assessment that there are very immature "mental-like" patients posting here with very characteristic traits. I don't think that ignoring these traits just because you happen to agree with their particular point of view on a topic is the best way to debate something.

yes me & 6 have had our moments, but no issues. i don't dislike the guy.

what does your opinion of others mental state or characteristic traits have to do with me? maybe you should take that up with them.

[SMOKE 1,426]

So it seems you and 6 have issues you could take up privately?

I'm in no way making suggestions, just observations.

I, for one- and perhaps others can chime in... do agree with his assessment that there are very immature "mental-like" patients posting here with very characteristic traits. I don't think that ignoring these traits just because you happen to agree with their particular point of view on a topic is the best way to debate something.

Just pointing out that someone who bowls into a thread with trite one-liners, then goes and quotes a blatant troll (ZQT) in order to make a cheap shot about people who "support illegal immigration" and "gringo haters" doesn't have a great deal of credibility.

The usual VJ fare. Don't think but post anyway.

yes i answered pedrohs one liner w/ a one liner. then answer zqt. point? oh damn. 6 doesn't view me a credible.

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So it seems you and 6 have issues you could take up privately?

I'm in no way making suggestions, just observations.

I, for one- and perhaps others can chime in... do agree with his assessment that there are very immature "mental-like" patients posting here with very characteristic traits. I don't think that ignoring these traits just because you happen to agree with their particular point of view on a topic is the best way to debate something.

yes me & 6 have had our moments, but no issues. i don't dislike the guy.

what does your opinion of others mental state or characteristic traits have to do with me? maybe you should take that up with them.

Absolutely nothing. I merely point out the difference between being able to make an argument and being a loonytroll. I suppose within an argument comes the ability to misinterpret, but hey, we're all human.