TheUndreaming

If I'm reading this right, though - the couple is in the middle of visa application process, and the USCitizen Spouse is in the USA, and the Foreign Spouse is living in the PI ..

1. he's withdrawing the Visa Application and

2. she's found someone else to marry and

3. she's trying to muck him about, about an uncontested divorce.

IMO, he has the bigger bargaining chip, as obviously SHE has her own timeline to get remarried.

meh close... #1 and 3. Things just aren't working out between us (as stated in prev post), she has completely gone off the deep end. I've made a mistake or two, but nothing that goes against the sanctity of marriage, and Fate has it that nothing I plan goes according to plan .. and she automatically assumes I'm a liar for it :\ Just because something didn't go the way she wanted it to. She's really immature and I see now she wasn't ready for marriage (and although I wasn't financially.. I'm still ready to settle down, but not with her anymore). I've completely lost respect and love for her >

i bet you guys are NEWLY WED.. AND JUST STAY OR LIVE TOGETHER... it's normal to have some few fights and misunderstanding.. you guys need to talk about some lil problem or big issues... getting married here in philippines is not a joke and it's true that we dont have a divorce here.. i dont judge anyone here.. not you neither your wife.. you have to think about the wonderful memories you had.. WHERE ARE THIS WORDS DURING THE TIME YOURE WAITING FOR YOUR VISA TO GET APPROVED?

"many wish for things this Christmas.... it is my birthday this upcoming Saturday as well as the upcoming Christmas... sad to say it but the thing I want for either of these, no one can give. I want the past to be the present. I want things to be undone to reveal a better future. I want to right my wrongs, and relive my life through the eyes of my better self.... this current path is the one I have chosen and the one I hate, and can only wish I could wish it away....

Alas no one can grant this wish of change, so I wish for nothing this birthday, I wish for nothing this Christmas. I just want my wife with me soon... I wish she can fill the gap of loneliness this entire year has brought, the loneliness my entire life has sought. She is the angel I have been waiting for, and so only she can grant my wish(es), and in return I can only hope to grant hers!"

"Still waiting on 2nd Notice from visa :/ HURRY UP DAMNIT!! The completion is so close, I want to be with my wife!"

you have to think all those wishes and pains during the time you both are eager to be together.. and waiting for the visa to arrive... there is always a solution and break ups or divorce is not a solution right away.. you both need to talk when you both calm down.. dont let the anger or evil pushes your vows split your marriage... i am very anti with the divorce... try to talk and settle things.. if things really not working out or if she really is mean.. then let go.. but dont make some decisions right away.. i guess you guys need to have a vacation .. PROBLEMS/ MISUNDERSTANDING / CONFLICTS ARE ALWAYS PART OF THE MARRIAGE... in the marriage it's not always beautiful, rainbows, or sweet.. trials always arrive to test how strong is your relationship.. i hope this will wake you up... and realize something... specially this words...

"

I miss my love more than enough, I miss what we had, it is more than rough.

I seek not solitude, nor pleasure, nor gain. Without my love, my life seem with pain. I miss her smell, her laugh, her smile. I miss the fun times we shared in awhile. I wish we could be together soon, so we could share a romantic night under the moon.

It seems so cheesy I know, but for not, this poem I show. I love my wife with so much glee, that before I had pledged, and still I give with certainty... my heart, my soul, my love I swear. For you, love, I hold so dear. You are my life, my reason for living... There is nothing in this world, other than you worth saving.

I love every moment that we share, I love every moment that we bare. I could not stand without you in this world, for I would fall part, for sure. I would see that without you, this world is never pure.

You are the angel, within my life, you are the angel, my love, my wife. And I shall forever love you...

I am yours... within Eternity.

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where are this words???? DON'T ASK SOME ADVISE HERE.. it's not worthy... people give advise without even knowing what really happens..

Glenn C. Mundee

Only 3 months left till I see my wife again. I'm so excited! Counting down the days

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Zeny Talaboc Puyong Yehey

September 1, 2011 at 7:16pm

Glenn C. Mundee Yay is right! I'll see ALL of you guys again. Especially mama and papa hehe. I can't wait..

September 1, 2011 at 7:18pm

Zeny Talaboc Puyong We cant w8 2 c u again glenn. Im sure ur papa and mama wil hapi also

September 1, 2011 at 7:21pm

Glenn C. Mundee ‎

September 1, 2011 at 9:25pm

Jessica Lavinia Tirrado aww .. that would be christmass right? i want to be with my husband too .. so bad

September 1, 2011 at 10:23pm

Glenn C. Mundee I'm hoping Xmas, but all depends on the visa process. May not get there till first couple weeks of January

September 2, 2011 at 1:26am

what a shame if you just file a divorce after this sweet words.......... think of it MR.

I think you guys are missing some of the point >.< 1st) I'm kinda creeped out at where you got all that... 2nd) a lot of things change. ESPECIALLY her. When she says she doesn't love me, regrets marrying me and only married me because my grandparents sent the money for the wedding, don't talk to her family, and some other disrespectful bullsh*t I'm not going to post here... and not just ONCE, but every fight we have (which is like every time we talk) is NOT a lover's quarrel... that's pure War Declaration.

All I'm asking for is if she needs the divorce certificate to file the Petition. I know >I< don't file it.

@Bobneith: What's VHA? I get BAH... and considering I been sending her apprx 5-6 times amount of BAH for a year, and then 3x BAH for 6 more months + extra $600 for her vacations... I think I've been more than considerate especially since I've cut most of my own expenses, living nearly on bread on water :\ So... I think no. I was trying to be fair with her and give her a last payment when we seperate if she wants to be cooperative but that boat sailed away with her attitude this last conversation. f*** that.

@himher: Well I still need her to sign/notarize it before I can turn it in.

@Darnell:

Yeah I think she's just trying that too..

@Anh Map:

No we were still in middle of 2nd phase of CR1 visa process (with the NBI certificate and stuff). During one of our fights, I'm glad I messaged them to send back all originals to respective owners, as I was going to cancel the visa. I'm still going to write a cancellation letter and send it to them to complete the process so not to waste their time.

EDIT: Thanks Mod Ryan, sorry didn't know where to put it.

Thanks guys for the help. Yeah guess I'll just continue to file for the contested divorce :\ if it costs more so be it I guess. And Darnell yeah, the military basically lets us do it ourself. They gave me a website to print all the forms. Get her signature and notarization first, then I sign and go to them to notarize it, and submit with the fee. With them though I don't think there is a court process (just 60 day wait after filing). Not sure. Going to go back and ask about contested divorce and whether or not there will be court (+fee).

Once again thanks guys

Divorce and move on. If she needs to do some additional paperwork that's on her isn't it?

Yeah but that's not the problem right now. The problem is getting her to sign. Or saving up for the more expensive lawyers to file for the contested divorce whether she signs or not. Which is the path I'm thinking I'll have to do. But my 2nd question is if anyone knows whether or not she needs the divorce certificate to file for the Petition?

Of course no need to go into details of why, but I mostly blame her for pushing me away... I am filing for divorce with my wife who is a filipina and she doesn't know of the Petition of Recognition for Foreign Divorce. Quite frankly I just learned of it too, and can't seem to find anything on the net about what documents are required to file for it (for her). I would assume my divorce certificate would be one, but am not sure, as she says she will not sign my papers unless I help her file for the Petition. I do not have the money to fly back to the Philippines to handle any of that and so I was going to just save up for this other divorce papers my attourney drew up for me, that whether she signs or not, after a certain period of time, they will go ahead with the proceedings in my favor.

But then another attourney I spoke with, that if she doesn't sign, that the process will cost a bit more as if it changed to a Contested Divorce (which the other attourney didn't mention) meaning a higher retainer fee (1st attourney = $1400, 2nd = $1500 with Uncontested). We have no children been married less than 2 years, she doesn't qualify to receive any of my military benefits, nothing is in our name other than the bank in the Philippines. I wanted to try to be civil with her, and even offered to send some money as a lump sum in favor of her being cooperative on fair terms... but she is insisting she doesn't "want to let me roam free" while she's married over there, which is when I explained the Petition to her, and that I would send her a notarized copy of the divorce certificate to file for it....

but as I go back to my question, if anyone even knows the requirements of this Petition, and/or if anyone knows how to handle this situation? 0.o

NOTE: I do know of filing divorce through military ($222.50 & 60 days after filing) but that's if she signs, has it notarized, and then sent back to me without a fuss... as it turns out I don't think I'm getting that.

Okay thanks

2 questions:

1.) WHen applying for the IR1 visa, does my wife need to put a new name with my family name? If so does she need to update her passport to reflect the same to return to the Philippines when she does/wants to

2.) Kind of goes with #1, does she need to update her passport before/after the visa application process

OR

Does she leave her current name on both and get her name changed when she arrives in states, and then what? Update both passport and visa again?

*bump* No one knows where/how to get CFO documents? Church, civil registrar, NSO? How we get all 3 of those documents *refers to link above*

-Wife said they get the NSO marriage certificate a year later ... I do hope it doesn't take that long, she can just request the NSO certified marriage certificate (and from my understanding of other posts a CENMAR too?)

Think these are the only NSO documents she needs, she already has the NSO birth certificate (unless the other posts are correct too in which the embassy is stingy on the date the certificate was printed and issued......) also I can't find it anymore but there was a thread somewhere on here indicating all the NSO documents and 3 at the end were something to do with the spouse being ready to go into the U.S.? Are these special classes she has to go through to get these certificates, and like her other documents request an NSO copy? because I did hear something about her having to take a class or something... how long does that(those) take? And would she take it anytime when she's getting the NSO documents or when she goes up to Manila for her medical and appointment (before/after)?

... found it: http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/Philippines_Specific_Immigration/Emigration_Requirements the CFO Guidance and Counseling?

and just wait like 20 mins if your marriage license is already forwarded from local civil registrar to NSO

-Wife said they get the NSO marriage certificate a year later ... I do hope it doesn't take that long, she can just request the NSO certified marriage certificate (and from my understanding of other posts a CENMAR too?)

Think these are the only NSO documents she needs, she already has the NSO birth certificate (unless the other posts are correct too in which the embassy is stingy on the date the certificate was printed and issued......) also I can't find it anymore but there was a thread somewhere on here indicating all the NSO documents and 3 at the end were something to do with the spouse being ready to go into the U.S.? Are these special classes she has to go through to get these certificates, and like her other documents request an NSO copy? because I did hear something about her having to take a class or something... how long does that(those) take? And would she take it anytime when she's getting the NSO documents or when she goes up to Manila for her medical and appointment (before/after)?

and what of military? we don't necessarily have employment letters (would initial or new re-enlistment contracts work with that? Or should I make up a letter and get it signed by my immediate supervisor?)

... when I looked on there it was over $2,000 for me I found $1,086 for 1 way 2 people tickets with CheapOAir.com I think. but of course my situation is 1 way 1 person ticket, and 2 1way 2ppl tickets, lol Orbits, Cebu Pacific Air, and CheapOAir, total trip estimated $2400-3500 including cabs and hotels.... From Nashville to Davao, Davao to Incheon, Incheon to Nashville, lol So dunno if that helps anybody or if it does, especially those looking to go to Philippines.... course my reason for Korea is I'm military and need to get the wife enrolled in the system, so that leg of the trip could be removed from your plans... maybe just a roundtrip for u and see if airlines can get 1 way for your spouse on same flight or something *shrugs*

just my 2 cents

Okay one in Davao... that works, thanks oh... and as soon as I asked where she can go to do that, her sister and mom popped online, and I asked them lol. Her sister says she already knows where to go to get that (apparently she did get a NSO birth certificate lol) ... well that makes things a bit easier for the later date. Thanks guys/gals

What about those of us in the US Military? Does our initial (or re-enlistment) contracts count as an employment letter? ... 0.o

Emigration Requirements

The only reason I ever knew about this because of one of those ads of lawer like people to help speed up the process for rediculous amounts of money... so.. how do we get NSO documentation of our marriage certificate, birth cert (I think she may actually already have an NSO birth cert)? Is there a specific office she has to go to or something? Wife is filipina in the southern part (Mindanao? I think that's the spelling) The guy on the phone suggested she gets her NSO documents before going to Manila so she doesn't make wasted trips, but might still have to stay up there for a week or two while waiting on appointment(s) or something.

Guess I'm asking at the NVC stage after sent to the embassy and she's been notified of an appointment date where she must then get her medical and go up there. I'm already preparing her for I guess the earlier stages of all those boring documents we have to fill out and helping by explaining to her what some of the stuff means, lol. Not that she needs help, but it makes me feel better to continue being active in this and all excited to get my wife over here But anyways, so yeah, where and how do we get all the NSO documents for her interview? and what all does she need to get them?

Kk will wait and see if any filipino-related visa couples are here who can answer the other questions, thanks

Also:: "List Husband/Wife And All Children of Relative" on the I-130 forms... if I am the petitioner and I AM the husband, do I still have to put me in there or is that too redundant? lol

Woot! woot! Congrats! What a great Christmas present..Another happy filipina!! Wish ours will be as simple as that.

You and me both... lol

And congrats

Well I can attempt to answer Question 3 as I am looking into this myself but is a bit different I think. I am getting 1 way from where I am into Davao (this is after she gets a CR1 or K-3 visa first... not sure which is faster at this point) then we fly to Korea to get her in-processed into the military system so I can cover her in all the medical and other bullcrap, so that's a 1 way for 2 ppl from Davao to korea, then after we're done there its 1 way, 2 people from Korea to U.S. ... total costs was estimated about $2500-3500 for flights + cab + hotels using Continental, Cebu Pacific Air, and Korean Air. As for your situation... I roughly estimated $1089 one way, 2 people (you and wife) from Korea to U.S. so that's not too bad I guess. Just check out Orbits, CheapOAir, and Cebu Pacific Air for good rates

"The K-3 is no longer the recommended path. Improved processing times for the I-130

and the use of e-mail at the NVC stages have made the K-3 obsolete. The CR/IR-1 visa

does not take longer than the K-3 anymore, costs less (no adjustment of status

necessary) and provides work authorization upon arrival. For those reasons the CR/IR-1

is usually the better choice for most applicants. The future of the K-3 is currently

being reviewed by USCIS and until it is abandoned officially it is not required or

even recommended that you submit an I-129f or pursue the K-3." - How To Bring Your..

... is this true? Should I just go ahead and file the necessary documents for the CR1 visa and just forget about the K-3, save time and money? And if so, anyone know how long these IR1/CR1 visas are taking now days? am I still looking at 1 or 2 years like some people's timelines are showing (back in '05?) Or closer to 6-9 months like some websites suggest it might take? I know its going to be a CR1 because we just recently got married last October and might even create my own timeline, heh. The documents, fees, and all that is not a problem for us, just the timeframe which is why I'm asking.

Actually, also if there is anybody here who is filipino or trying to get a filipino spouse (or filipina I guess would be more correct term for me) to the U.S. and/or have gotten their spouse to the U.S. if you could help us:

* Is the listed medical center on the Manila website the only place she can get her medical done?

* Is the embassy in Manila the only place she can go? Thought there was a consulate in Cebu or somewhere closer... or even if the Beauro of Immigration could do anything (the BoI is a lot closer to her than flying to Manila everytime they need her for something

Unless she can knockout the medical, interview, and police certificates (fingerprinting and background check I think?) all up there within same visit ...

I don't know any and all help would be appreciated!

-G