KBcrand1

Visa Approved pending results from the dr, so only a day or so delay hopefully! Thanks everyone, gotta go have a caparinha now!

yes, you will have to wait till tomorrow and then call and speak to an operator. Have your paperwork in front of you, so that if you know you sent something, then ask to speak to a supervisor. the supervisor will explain in detail. It was shortly after I got off the phone with the supervisor that I received 2 emails from the previous day, and then that night I received another 2 emails from the discussion with the supervisor. Both emails explain exactly what is missing or incorrect and was complete with a checklist response cover sheet. So if you do in fact have a ledgit RFE or checklist as it is called with NVC, then send in the requested documents with the coversheet and your all set. The worse part from what I hear is waiting for them to be entered into the system. And DON'T LET YOUR GUARD DOWN! Keep checking the AVR and the log in page, just in case they pull another fast one....

NVC MAKES MISTAKES.

was approaching week 3 of NVC, decided to log on and check for sif, no sif, ah what the heck, I called, and the AVR said missing documents. Called back and spoke to an operator. Operator said Civil Brazilian Certificate needed. Asking myself what is this? they only need a federal police certificate and seguranca do publica (state police) certificate. So I emailed the embassy. they responded very early the next morning with: "we suggest you call back NVC and have them clarify what they want, we only require the federal and state police certificates". So this time when I called I said that I had emailed the embassy and they specifically told me to call you back because they don't know what the *&$% your talking about! Was immediately transfered to a supervisor who explained to me that the state police certificate was not in the correct format, and that they needed the correct certificate to complete the process. this was back on the 1st of October. so I called my wife immediately and told her to get a new one and mail it to me asap. She mailed it on Oct 5, ( to this day, I still do not have the certificate from her). I stopped paying attention to NVC, no calls to AVR, no log in's to the website, (why should I do this if they need a document?) Then on October 14 received and email that case was completed on the 5th or 6th, can't remember now and that your interview date was set for NOV 8th. HMMMM, how could this be? The wife did NOT mail the document to them, and there is no way that they would have received it that quickly even if she did mail it to them. Word of advice, even if you have been given a checklist and you believe you sent in all the correct documents, still pay attention to NVC.

Lady Bug,

When I called NVC and spoke to a supervisor, they sent multiple checklists by email, listing exactly what was incorrect or missing. Those checklists are the same as what they send in the snail mail, so you may get lucky and receive the checklist the day after or day of talking to the supervisor, gather the documents listed and send them in with the checklist coversheet provided in the checklist email. If you have the documents needed your talking just a few days of checklist response turn a round time. As far as how long you will have to wait for the sif after that? I don't know. I've been trying to stay away from Vj to calm my nerves a little, so i haven't been following progress of NVC lately. Good luck... Hope you get your answer tomorrow.

talk about mistakes? here is one for you, ok maybe a few.

NVC screwed up, told us that one of our police certificates was not good. So, we all know what happens when you get a checklist, EVERYTHING GETS PUT ON HOLD! So, I don't pay attention calling the avr or even logging on to see if we get a sif. I call my wife immediately after learning that we need a new police certificate. She goes and mails it on 10/5/2010. On 10/14/2010, I receive and email from NVC, case complete and your date is 11/8/2010 for interview. ( yep, thats tomorrow ). Now need to get medicals done. No dr in wife's city, closest location is 1 hr plane ride, (she has never flown before, nor accustomed to being by herself in a strange place). I had her schedule a dr appt for Recife, they informed her that she needed to have a female exam before the certified medical and bring the results. Unfortunately that fell through, so now time was getting tight. I had a friend of mine call Rio (location of interview) and schedule an appointment for her on thursday, including female exam and to be sure that we can get all the results as needed before the interview. they assured us you can have all the results in the same day! So Thursday went to the medical, quick in and out, ok, now you need to go get your x-ray, (another building), then vaccines (still another building) then to the gyno dr, still yet another building. On arrival at the gyno dr, she was fully booked, and of coarse only works on Tues and Thurs. So no it is to late in the day to call the dr for another gyno, so we had to wait till Friday to call. We called first thing in the morning, dr says NOPE, gotta go to this one! So now what do we do? have no medical results for the interview on Monday. The dr was going to email the embassy and explain the situation, so the best I can figure is we go to the interview and if everything is ok, we get approved pending medical results. Then, first thing Tuesday morning, we go back to the gyno, and hopefully the gyno has the time to do this exam. Then go back to the certified dr for certification and results, then go back to the embassy and get the official approval. All this just adds more stress to an already stressful situation.

So Tom, I understand your wanting to make sure everything is covered. I would stress to all USC, that most foreign spouses do not understand the procedures and the government ####### that you need to go through to get this visa. Stay involved with every step and decision and hope you don't get stuck in the same position that I am in now. Even the slightest flaw could screw up so many things at this point in the game.

13. Jovista

ALBANIA Nov 23 @ 0900

Kevin and Bruna

Nov 8 Rio Dejaneiro, Brazil

7:15am.

Tom, it's not the fact that things may or may not be better or that we get through it, because we do. It is that we tollerate this inconsistency. If this were a "private company" doing this, how would there sales volume be? The problem is GOVERNMENT! Yes, I believe that are taking measures which they should to protect us, but look at what has slipped by the seams. And you really believe some of the people on here are going to be tomorrow's terrorists? Nah..... Somebody's PTA.... and I think it starts at the top. Stop the waste and stop the senslesss regulation.... solve the problem!

i think some do and some just don't wanna bother with it and want to get you off the phone. because i called a few days ago regarding AVR telling me there was add'l info i needed to send. so i spoke to one of their agents. i asked her what it was they were looking for, and she told me i needed to re-submit a corrected I-864W for my kids. i asked her what was needed with my wife's case and she told me nothing because the packet for my wife was complete and that i did a good job in putting the docs together (i think she was just stroking my ego with that statement). but then again....maybe they don't look at the docs because she explained to me that when they process documents, they indicate on the system which forms were accepted. and if reviewer does not mark in their system a particular form is acceptable, system will generate letter.

but im on board with you guys about just waiting to here case completed.

I somewhat disagree with you. I spoke to an operator on the phone, she said I needed a document that was mysterious to me. I sent an email that night to the embassy, they responded rapidly in the morning. The Embassy suggested I contact NVC again because what I was told to retrieve for them they did not understand. So, after receiving that email I called again to NVC, when another operator told me the same thing, I said, "wait a minute", I emailed the Embassy and they don't know what your talking about. Immediately I was transfered to a supervisor who then looked or I would assume, looked at the documents, and said that the document that was sent in was not in the proper format, and I needed my wife to obtain another document in the correct format. I sent my wife to get the "correct format"...... I'm still waiting for that "correct formated pcc", but yesterday received an email from NVC that case is complete and sent to the embassy. I have my interview date and all..... Unless your saying someone reviews the documents rapidly before an actual "non ignorant" ( and I mean this from a training standpoint ) actually approves them....... then ok. but it seems to me that there is mass confusion at NVC.

strangely enough I slept well last night.... Tom, I sent her to the location listed on the embassy website armed with the letter that explains what she needs in her native language. The one that was submitted to NVC was one that was done online, and you print it out, have it notorized and signed by the issueing authority. I will have in my posession, if it ever comes in, the one that she sent to me now 12 days ago that should be absolutely correct. I will not have time to go to her local police agency to get a signed letter or anything like that. It is a 3-1/2 hour flight to Rio DeJaneiro from her town.

Everyone, I don't know what to say or how it happened, by head is still spinning. I received an email today, dated yesterday that NVC had completed the processing of the immigrant visa. How could this happen? They sent me a checklist saying that one of the police certificates was not in the proper format and that I needed to have my wife get the proper certificate format. To this date, I have not received the certificate.

PS, her interview date is Nov, 8.....

I have been so discouraged because of this, and now look, in like 25 days I'm going to be with my wife.

Thank you for your help...... I will update my timeline when I get home this afternoon..

Teya...... It's time to do your dance.... Please?

congratulations......

NVC doesn't have Tier 2 Humans

but

they do have Supervisors.

I have to assume you've not reviewed much in the September Thread -

because IF YOU DID -

you'd have learned 'how to ask'

for

an 'eyeball review' of yer documents.

Basically, call into NVC, get a Supervisor, and

request that Supervisor to request

an 'eyeball review'

of the document. Did ya catch that?

Yer requesting a human to request something, on yer behalf. It's a 2-layer thingie - this request process.

This '2nd look' can, or can not (depending)

clear up a lot of bull sh|t at NVC.

It really depends, on the document AND

the talents of the Human doing the 2nd review.

The Supervisor that you talk to, can request an 'eyeball review' based on

your phone call and

your input

but

You Must Call

and

You must be persuasive .

YOU = USCitizen , usually, not the foreign spouse, not the beneficiary.

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Finally, NVC doesn't issue RFE's -

but

they do issue

'Checklist letters'

which, IMO, are functionally equivalent to an RFE at USCIS.

So -

IF you have 'checklist letter' via email or postal mail -

then

you must respond to it, in the format required, in the method promulgated (ya, I'm ex-f'ing military) to the address in the checklist letter.

Is possible that is some mix up - if you are following the procs over at http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/221785-ds-3032-slowdown/page__view__findpost__p__3560467 then it's possible that yer going too fast for NVC, and any checklist letter is generated because of it - ie - you completed AOS stuff and they dinged you on IV stuff, asking for 'petitioner info' or something similar - when in fact you've already paid for and sent in the IV stuff. It's a PITA, sure, but - the only way to skull-#### this NVC process is to call in, harrass/harry the NVC Humans to find yer stuff.

Good Luck, whatever the problem truly is.

Thanks for the input. I did in fact call yesterday, third time in 15 hours. did not specifically ask for a supervisor, but when the person told me that I needed a civil brazilian certificate, and was not specific about which one I informed them that I had contacted the embassy the night before and had already gotten a response from them, and they suggested I contact you because they only require 2 certificates and none is labeled as civil brazilian certificate! Immediately I was transfered to a supervisor, who must have done this "eyeball review". then the supervisor told me exactly what certificate they needed. gave me a website that you can go and get this online, then go and have it notorized, unfortunately the website she gave me could not be found! So I went back to the embassy instructions went to the section regarding the request for police certificates and physically copied and pasted them into an email to my wife.

Lesson learned: In Brazil you can apply for these certificates online, CAUTION: If the beneficiary doesn't specifically apply for the right certificate when completing the form, or it is not in the right format ( such as mine was ), it gets rejected at NVC. Stick to the proven methods and you won't have a problem! Do not use the internet to obtain a PCC, stand in line with the request form for the proper certificate!

as far as reading all of the guides and posts? Many times. The problem was I spent the day home with and injury-sickness day before when I found this wonderful news out. Until you have been in the position and the stress related to the weekend crunch to get things in the process before you cannot do anything but sit around and think about what they have "checklisted" yes, I did know the difference, but it is the same ( it is a request for missing or incomplete evidence to support your IV application, and it does stop the processing in its tracks just like at USCIS ) you cannot understand the sudden "brain dump" that has just occured! many experience it, usually on an approval, and not the other way around.

I'm sorry if you feel I took offense to this, but I'm not the type of person to make hundreds of posts asking the same questions over and over. I was in a time crunch yesterday, and needed an answer rapidly.

Thank you for your response.

Does anyone know if there is a specific supervisor or Tier 2 person at NVC? I was RFE'd for a certificate that I cannot find as being required in ANY documentation provided by NVC or USCIS. I am thinking it is a mistake, and the case has been forwarded for review, but if in fact they are looking for a specific document and it is not there, it may take a month or more to get. I need to get in touch with someone who can tell me exactly what they need, apparently, what I was told on the phone can mean many different things.

I'm sorry to hear about the RFE. Yes, please call them and they will tell you want it is because from experience you will not receive an email from them until probably Sunday. If you know now what it is now then you can get it out by early next week.

I called, they are looking for a Civil Brazilian Certificate.

I do not see that on the list of required documents, only policia do federal and seguranca publica.

I told the lady this on the phone, she said it may be their mistake, but it will take 15 days to review.

So, I sent out an email to the embassy in Rio asking them what it is and where to get it. Oh well, so much for spending the holidays with my wife.

anyone know if I call will they tell me what they are missing?

just found out, I got RFE'd..... Oh happy day!

just checked, no sif for me.

SIF today finally!!!!

congrats.....finally!

I just wish your words becomes true today .... with a touch....of my case at uscis....

Just hope for approval, forget the touch's.

Kruz, I would say your NOA 2 is in the mail, but since you did get a touch, I would suspect that you will see the update online before it arrives in the mail. My wife's USCIS progress is still with NOA-1 date and has never been updated. My Step son, has the same Noa 1 date with you, and has never been touched. Hope you get some good news today. I know how frustrating it is.

No news yet. I am assuming by Friday I should get SIF. That would be three weeks exactly for me.

I'm right there with you, same day that all documents into NVC. Lets hope they surprise us and send them early..... I won't complain if they come today.

I have heard the 1 yrs time frame but didnt mention is because they were only speaking 1 month. What I am not sure about is when the 1 yr clock starts.

I would think that 1 year clock starts on the date NVC notifies you by snail or email that they have received your petition. You then must contact them at least once before the 1 yr anniversary of the date on that letter or email so that it does not expire......

But, I'm sure that most people knowing they have an approved petition and are waiting for just NVC will find a job to Shovel *#(@) if need be just to be with their loved one. I know I would.... (ofcoarse wearing a mask and gloves, boots that were like waiters........lol)

the only thing I would say is to send both your AOS and IV packages at the same time. Ofcoarse if $$$ is the reason that you are waiting, then that wouldn't be a problem, since you cannot send the package without paying and receiving the "paid" status first. The reason I say this, is I sent the AOS package after receiving the AOS as paid, a few days later the IV bill came up as invoiced, I paid that. A few days later that showed "paid", then I was just waiting for a my wife's PCC and ds-230 to arrive in the mail, (snail, and I'm talking serious Snail!) and I received a checklist! The NVC had received the AOS package, but was looking for the IV package...... Needless to you only receive 2 checklist's. If everything is not there, it gets forwarded to the embassy at that point and it's Pass or Fail, the way I read the article. 3 weeks is not much, but just pay your bills, and then send both package together after receving your "paid" status on both IV and AOS.

UPDATE........first of all thanks to marie_yahya...for your information on Ruth Mills. It worked out this time.

My spouse just got off from the phone after talking with Ruth. She is friendly and told us that our case is currently with one of the IO officer. and Because our case is 5+ months, so she told us that she will send out an email to that officer so that he can do all the best to speed up the work. But she clearly said she can only request, rest is in officer's hand. Not only that, she said she will follow up on this or if not, we can call her back in next two weeks. Let's hope for the best.

She also asked my wife that I can see that you have a travel plan coming up in Nov. and also Ruth mentioned my spouse's email address while on the phone, so upon asking she replied she also received our congressman's letter.....because we never mentioned that my spuose is having a travel plan in nov. while talking on the phone. She said we can expect an approval OR RFE, if not approval, in another two weeks.

So finger's crossed......now I think that touch on 20th sep in my case, means something because it looks like our case is with the officer since then.....

I wouldn't be surprised if you had an email tonight! with "dancing smiley's"......lol........ Good luck. I'm sure your so close that your gonna be in tears of joy soon!

I was hoping to see some happy people here today...... Just a rainy Monday here, sure would brighten my day to see some SIF'S........