horseloverinfl

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Once a sponsored immigrant has the green card the Affidavit of Support cannot be withdrawn, even in a divorce. It can only end when one of the following condition is met: the immigrant leaves the US permanently; the immigrant dies; the sponsor dies; the immigrant obtains 40 quarters of qualifying employment ( 10 years) or the immigrant becomes a US citizen. If immigration fraud is involved, it is worth contacting ICE (the immigration fraud investigation unit) and asking them to pursue the case as it could end up with the immigrant being deported - which would then cancel the Affidavit of Support.

If the immigrant does not yet have his or her green card, then the sponsor can withdraw the Affidavit of Support and without a valid sponsor, the green card will be denied.

Those are really the only options available.

Thank you for moving the post and thank you for the answers. I will call ICE, it is up to them to decide what to do with him. I apologize to America and the American people for bringing one more headache to our country. God Bless.

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Looks like she found the <i><u>next</u></i> love of <u>her</u> life! I just found out she remarried already <img src="http://www.visajourney.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/kicking.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="kicking.gif" /> , after waiting the minimum 30 days after divorce (in Texas).

I do not know if she filed the Waiver for removal of conditions (her 2-year conditional green card expires April 24, 2009) prior to marrying this new guy. I understand she's "out of status" after the divorce and until filing for the Waiver.

Does anyone know what remarrying so quickly might do to her immigration status and/or waiver? I'm sorry I haven't scoured the site yet to see if there's other related postings.

Quite interesting... Just one week before the final divorce hearing, she was trying to reconcile with me to get back together - while she was "in congress" with her new boyfriend. She was trying to secure alternate arrangements in case her boyfriend weaseled out on her, I guess. Wow! Just reinforces that I made the right decision. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />

Same happened here. Caught him red handed in a relationship. He already filed for removal of conditions based on Divorce. Had his conditional one year and begged me to stay married but separated until he gets his permanent GC. he verbally threatened me many times if I leave him without him getting his Green Card he will hurt my family, Abuse hotline did not help since there is no physical evidence. Oh, this is just the beginning of his con artists schemes. I need to know how I can withdraw the affidavit of support. Thank you, I am divorced now.

Things didn't work out, and it's a real shame, but sometimes pride...intense and foolish...has consequences.

Under the regulations, I withdrew the affidavit of support, and the adjustment of status was denied (no green card). I believe that deportation proceedings are now underway. In defense, the immigrant (from Cuba) has dispensation and can try to get her green card another way, but it's no longer my problem.

Anyway...moral of the story is, you CAN withdraw the affidavit of support any time until the green card is issued. Again...it's a true shame after all that was done to make this relationship work, and it's just time to move on...heal the wounds...

I want o withdraw the affidavit of support, but he already has the two year conditional green card. Can I still withdraw the affidavit of support. he is irresponsible and I can not be responsible for his foolish actions and fraud. He came to America on the basis of love and shortly after getting his conditional GC he showed his real self. Please help. Thank you,

Ro

Well, if there is "a lot" more then some idea about the nature would be good. It seems your primary concern is financial - he caused you to borrow money and you are worried about liability for supporting him after the divorce.

But the verbal abuse begs a question to you about physical abuse. Has there been any?

Yes, what you related is a set of threats and intimidation.

No, there has not been any physical abuse. He knows the consequences of such a thing. He just yells and screams that there is no food for him to eat in the fridge, when the fridge and freezer are full but not with what he likes, he shows that he is ungrateful and then tells me to have faith, it is tough for him to sit home for so long. I told him he can at least work on the yard instead of playing computer games all day, or paint, or do something to show he is serious about being a responsible man. He told me today that he never meant to threaten me, he and his brothers will return the money, and I am misunderstanding his intentions, he was trying to tell me what a good person who is, he had the chance to hurt others, but he did not and will not. Of course I do not believe him. I consulted with an attorney today who suggested that I should tell my husband to leave the house and that divorce papers are in the works, he did not move a muscle, he was very calm and asked me if me misunderstanding him is enough to divorce him and that he loves me, however his eyes did not say a thing, they were fixed with a glaze.

I just had a talk with my husband today, Asked him if he thinks our relationship is a normal happy one and his answer was "yes, there is nothing with our relationship, all couples disagree on things and pass under stress, but now I am working and all will be good". I told him I talked to an attorney, he said I misunderstood him when he was talking and yelling, he was just telling me that he could have done all those things to others, but he wouldn't because he is a nice guy" he said he'll never use nor hurt anyone and that I am too Americanized that is why I misunderstood his intentions" and so on. he was very calm with fixed eyes, no emotions in them at all, then he hugged me and kissed me telling me he married me because he loved him. Did that happen to you?

I'm sure this is not the relationship you dreamed of ! Get out of it FAST... You're wasting your life with someone who clearly does not appreciate what you or your family are doing for him.

There are good people out there, this is not some 'Middle Eastern' trait, plenty of VJ's here married to lovely people from the MENA region and all over the world...this is just plain abusive behaviour, from a man that clearly has personal issues.

Don't give him the chance to ruin yours or anyone else's life here. Send him back, get him deported. Seriously, and you can do this safely, just have those that love you support you through it and end this mess!

Thank you for everyone's support. I contacted a divorce attorney, now I am waiting to hear back from two immigration attorneys regarding my husband's status with the fact that he just got his conditional GC less than two months ago. I will keep posted. Thank you, I am Blessed to have so much support. I am here also for anyone who needs me.

All the best...let us know if you need anything

I think when you are trying to explain away someones behavior, it doesnt make you a bad person. It makes you retarded..not evil....I am very glad the poster has opened up because alot of people dont....nor are they truthful when things go south, therfore giving off the impression that whats happened to horse in fl is a rare occurance..its not....Its not my fault that I was loving, trusting and patient. And when other people from mena saw me bloodied and with welts they should have admonished him. They didnt, one in fact , a woman told me this was very common and that her husband from the magreb batters her and that her french born sister is battered by her brother and that this is very normal. She even threatened me if I told anyone. She followed me after a battering into a place of business to make sure I didnt tell. I finally told my family as well as a religious friend of all of theres and it wasnt until then that I got relief....Someone from the same country, a very religious mena person is the one that finally put a stop to it and admonished both him and his friends. Its not the fault of the person battered. A person may be stupid, they may be naive enough to believe they can change someone or blame circumstances...but its a dangerous message je veux to blame someone who has been victimised. All of us have chances every day to hurt people and we make a conscious choice not to.

I think that if you are close to removing conditions and you are with someone dangerous like this and you dont have support, give them what they want and protect yourself.. Blackmailing with vawa is very common. There was a woman on here about 4 weeks ago that was arrested by her turkish husband who recorded her, battered her and threw her out of her house. I was lucky enough to have family support as well as a mom and an aunt who is a lawyer who in no uncertain terms told him if he threatend me again that they would call ICE themselves. For those of you naive enough to not believe this is going on, it is and American women are now being threatend and manipulated with VAWA rules. I got through this situation relatively safely towards the end but not without absolutely horrible effects on my family. It absolutely is very possible to bring fake vawa charges against an american spouse and stage things and pretend that they were battered...This has become a new trick and not very uncommon...

Horse in florida...this happens alot more than people would like to admit and you first have to make an absolute choice of what you want to do....Its not going to get better. You are very far off removing conditions so that cannot be a carrot that you can hang out there to get the hell out of this..I am so sorry for you... I lived it and dont blame yourself...dont do it.. you can move on past this and things will be alright once hes out of your life

Proud of you to being so open, helpful and moving on. We all make mistakes and think that people have hope to change for the better. Glad you are out of this and I pray that you are not letting it affect your daily living. Stay strong and positive. Blame doesn't help, but I sure hope it helps other women and men out there think twice before they marry someone who just wants to come to America, which is happening a lot.

In normal circumstances (boy meets girl on US soil) no, I wouldn't say someone was asking for abuse or that they put themselves in danger. However, when the abuse or infidelity or whatever starts overseas and you have that out (not bringing them to the US) and you choose not to take that out well aren't you putting yourself in the line of fire, so to speak? A husband is abusive whether physically or emotionally while still overseas needs to stay his azz overseas. That way he cannot pose a threat to his wife in the US. Especially a MENA husband who would have a hard time getting to the states without his wife's help. I'm not evil but I am thinking logically and logic says don't allow an abusive husband to get into your country and therefore your home to continue the abuse. Now in the case of the OP where I don't see evidence of abuse prior to him coming to the US then yes, she should be careful but at the same time she should be trying to get herself out of the situation.

Well, you got a point there. Perhaps the reason why I did not notice the abuse overseas is because I did not stay there longer than a month, anyone can act their best for such a short period of time. He is a pro manipulator and I should have been smarter than being heads over heals. Some of us think that when such men leave their environment they'll get better, which is not true. They can manipulate it to get what they want. I already contacted an attorney, hope I'll get a call today to schedule an appointment. In the mean time he's been so nice to me. At one point shortly after he got his GC, he told me to apply for a job overseas, which I did before I met him, while he stays here to take care of the house. YEAH Sure. what about the family we wanted to have, how can we have it if I am overseas working under austere conditions?

This is a red flag in your relationship. looks like you are used for money and green card. dont let that happen.i cant understand how some men can not be at least grateful to those who pick them from the dirt.

He wanted a car to go to work, my dad gave him his until my husband starts making money to buy his own, he drove it for few days than came home one day saying: "How do expect to go work driving this car, I can not tell the manager I can't work because my back is hurting from driving your dad's car." few days later he said he found a used car he likes, I said OK, by when do you plan on paying me back for it" and he flipped and started his "Shame, Shame, Shame on you. all you talk about is money. You don't feel my pain, I have stomach pain because of the stress you put under, and anyway you said the car will be registered in your name, so why do I want to do anything with it" and more more, then after I asked a friend of mine, in-front of my husband, what happens if a US citizen divorces someone with a conditional GC, my husband became the nicest guy on earth.

All the above are some of his outbursts. he said we wife who asks her husband when he is going to return the money is a stranger not a wife, and he did not want me to tell my parents or anyone about the money borrowing that him and his family did claiming it is a private matter between him and I and his parents.

I will seek an attorney tomorrow, should I call USCIS as well?

Hello everyone,

My husband got his two year (conditional) green card about two months ago. Before we got married he borrowed money from me saying that his brother needed an emergency eye surgery and they did not have the money and they will pay me back as soon as he or his brothers can afford to, that dragged into more borrowing. It has been a year now, and no one has made the initiative to give me back at least a sign of good intention to return the money. Since he got here, every-time I did something he did not like, he starts yelling and screaming and telling me what he did to his mom when she behaved the way I did, and that he put his fist through windshield while driving when his dad gave a comment about my husband's driving, and what he did to his former B**** fiancee. he said a man has the right to be depressed and upset and to express his feelings. When I ask him to talk in a nicer way and stop yelling and making threats he says he is not yelling, he is just telling me what he did and that's his tone of voice. Now, he asked my cat "if I kick you slamming against the wall, what would you do?" Are those things considered threats? Thank you for reading all this. There is a lot more, but those are the highlights, what do I need to do? Should i give him the chance to get a visa to the country where brother resides, rather than him getting deported back where he doesn't want to be? There is a lot more to this, he even said he'll work under the table so he won't pay taxes. Dishonesty and exaggeration about who he is and who he knows has been his trait. he said that he can with "his foot he can make calls to frame people" and that "he has a way of making people trust him so they'll tell him personal things that he will use against them to ruin their lives, but he won't do it because he is a good man". what am I dealing with?

Thanks,

Horseloverinfl

I sense there's a heckuva lot more to this story than you're telling here. For most people, it takes a bit more than a spouse with an unpleasant disposition before they start considering divorce.

Anyway, do not consider, even for a moment, his future immigration status when you decide whether or not you want to divorce. It is completely irrelevant. You should not feel like you need to remain married to him in order to help him with his immigration status, nor should you feel like you should divorce him in order to deny him any immigration benefits. When you consider what to do about your marriage, you should make the decision based on the same criteria you would if you were married to another US citizen. His immigration status should not sway your opinion in any way. I suggest you talk to a counselor about your marriage, and try to persuade him to talk to a counselor as well.

Re. his immigration status - you cannot "get him deported". If you had evidence that he married you just to get an immigration benefit, then you should provide your evidence to USCIS and ICE. There are phone numbers at the bottom of the page. If you don't have any evidence of this sort, then don't worry about his immigration status. That's his problem. Let him worry about it. If he decides to stay in the US then he'll have to apply to remove conditions on the green card in less than two years. If you're still married to him, then you'll file this application jointly with him. If you're divorced then he can do it on his own.

Thank you for your reply, yes there is a lot more to this.

Would I still be responsible for him financially after the divorce. He has the two year conditional Green Card.

Thank you,

Hello everyone,

My husband got his two year (conditional) green card about two months ago. Before we got married he borrowed money from me saying that his brother needed an emergency eye surgery and they did not have the money and they will pay me back as soon as he or his brothers can afford to, that dragged into more borrowing. It has been a year now, and no one has made the initiative to give me back at least a sign of good intention to return the money. Since he got here, every-time I did something he did not like, he starts yelling and screaming and telling me what he did to his mom when she behaved the way I did, and that he put his fist through windshield while driving when his dad gave a comment about my husband's driving, and what he did to his former B**** fiancee. he said a man has the right to be depressed and upset and to express his feelings. When I ask him to talk in a nicer way and stop yelling and making threats he says he is not yelling, he is just telling me what he did and that's his tone of voice. Now, he asked my cat "if I kick you slamming against the wall, what would you do?" Are those things considered threats? Thank you for reading all this. There is a lot more, but those are the highlights, what do I need to do? Would divorcing him get him deported? Should i give him the chance to get a visa to the country where brother resides, rather than getting him deported back where he doesn't want to be?

Thanks,

Horseloverinfl

Hello,

DOS just told me that my fiance's K-1 visa was changed from immigrant to non immigrant. What does that mean please help. Is this a good sign? we have under AP.

Thank you,

My visa was approved today by the Consulate in Vienna The interview was short and the lady who interviewed me was very friendly! After her last question she smiled and said "Congratulations and welcome to the United States of America!" What a moment.. Without this site I would not have gotten so far and without any RFE's and such.. When I first found VJ I didn't understand half of the words and terms on here and now I have my visa in hand (well.. have to pick it up within the next days ) I learned so much just by reading through the different forums and topics here. Just wanted to say THANK YOU to everybody who contributes to this site!!

CONGRATULATIONS, Welcome to the United States of America.

Hello all,

My fiance's had his interview in Beirut on Jan. 05, 2010. CO told him all is good but he has to go through AP. I called DOS two weeks ago they said he was under in-depth review in DC. I called DOS today who informed me that his case is at the consulate in Beirut. I asked about DC, lady from DOS said" the case is not in DC anymore it is at the embassy in Beirut, they are verifying that all his documents are complete". Is this a good sign? anyone went through this? Thank you,

Hi,

I was just wondering if the administrative processing after interview applies to everyone or only to some male applicants (beneficiary) ? So far, I have only heard male applicants went through administrative processing.

Also, do you know approxiamately how many percent of applicants through the embassy in London have to go through administrative process after the interview ?

Thanks.

My fiance's had his interview on Jan 5, 2010. The CO told him all is good regarding his application, but they have a new procedure that requires them to do further AP on his app. She told him he will hear from them within a week or two, however I called DOS, they said it will be several weeks. His case is in DC. The CO gave him a white slip that reads as follows " Section 221(g) and underneath the box checked reads: Your application requires administrative Processing. Our office will call you as soon as this process is complete. If you do not hear from us within 10 weeks of your application, you can email the embassy to check on the status of your case"

Does anyone know what this might mean. They did not ask us for anything more than what we submitted? what would it be?

Thank you,

quite similar here as well. mailed out packet on the 31st. believing for a speedy process! best of luck to everyone.

AWESOME, CONGRATS

Hello all,

Thanks in great part to the wonderful advice and guidance received on this site my beloved Olga was approved for her K-1 visa today. We plan for her to arrive in the US Dec 14th or 15th. My beloved will be here for Christmas!

Thanks, Ryan

CONGRATULATIONS. Pray for ours to be quick and easy approval. Have a Happy Long life together, Thanks for updating us with such hopeful news

My fiance called the doctor - and spoke with him as to getting the medical done prior to p3 - dr said must have p3 letter plus 3 additional passport photos.

But to be sure, I have also emailed the doctor from here asking for clarification and have contacted the embassy requesting info on whether I can proceed with the medical since it should be valid for 6 months.

On a plus side - it takes 2 days for the results and doctor is available 5-6 days a week.

Thank you for all the helpful information. I contacted the embassy in Lebanon. They said we need to wait to VSC to get the I-129 processed, then my fiance' in Lebanon will be called by the embassy. All the paper work is ready. Thanks again.

My Fiance' who is Lebanese lived in Morocco from 2000- 2004. We are collecting all the docs for his k1 visa, but do not know how to get the police certificate from Morocco. We went to the Moroccan Embassy in Beirut, they have no idea what we are talking about. We called the police department where he used to reside/work, they said it has been five or more years they do not keep records going back that far. I called the Moroccan embassy in DC, they gave me the address for the Ministry of Justice in Rabat, but said that it will take over a year, if ever, to get it in the mail. Please help. Do I need to get on a plane, spend so money to get it in person?

Thank you for sharing your experiences and information.

Ro

Hello all,

My fiance's friend who works with the embassy in Beirut as a sworn translator is telling us that I need to send USCIS and amendment to include all the documents requested by my fiance' to take the interview when the embassy calls him (DS156, DS 156K, all his birth, police, civil, passport translated docs and the 134). She claims that by sending all the documents that will speed up the process. I am confused, because USCIS say not to send anything they did not ask for. I filed the I-129 f following the application directions. Petition was accepted at the VSC on October 6, 2009 and currently under initial review.

Thank you for this forum, it eases my tensions a lot. Thanks everyone for taking the time to share your exciting news, Happy Thanksgiving.

October 6, I-129F accepted at VSC

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