mankind

This forum is for people to help each other with immigration. But you are not filing for benefits and you are not looking to be an immigrant , just what are you doing here ?[/size] You want detailed information about why they won't let Nigerians into the country. It is people like you that cause the problem. Ones who try to hide their personal agenda and work others to get only what they want with no exchange of value for the other person. But that is why they are hard to keep people like you for sneaking into the US.

What story have you shared with me please ?All you said here was only about how Horrible the Black American are ,

and how Nigerian is highly frundulent ,and also how the black race is so bad and at the same time you want to be with one them.

That sounds funny and horrible ,i have said i m not with a USC ,and i m not looking for USC .

i m so tired with the word scammers from you .

why do you talk too much about scammers?

how do you know that there have been scammers here trying to perfect their methods ?

so are you also here trying to perfect your methods?

ENOUGH SAID!

what has she said enough ?

I know morocans are the most races people on earth

they are African and they are ashame to say that they are African .

they say they are north Africans and that they are white

normal i dont want to talk to you because we dont mix with morocans ; but if you continue doing what you are doing .

i will be more aggrasive

.Just answer my Questions ,if you like

you can take any action ,or go to heal ,

i have never visited the north African forum.

you are trying to show people that you are a nice man .

but i know who are morocans .

First of all, I am not a man, I am a woman. My fiance is from Morocco, and no, he is not racist. He is the best man I have ever met, that is why I am going through this immigration process...no one else would be worth the time and aggravation. You are the one being racist by going off on Moroccans, when I said nothing derogatory about africans. My fiance has no problem saying he is african, for that is what he is. I just think it is funny that you are letting me get under your skin. I said "enough said" to the other poster, because they were simply pointing out that this is an immigration site, and if you are not immigrating, or looking for benefits, then why are you here? I only stated that this was a weird post. I have a right to state my opinion because this is a public forum. I am sorry if I have offended you. Next time, don't assume and don't attack a certain group of people, because not everybody fits into these molds. I think it is quite ironic that you generalized Moroccans, yet you are upset because people are generalizing Africans....

May be you dont know sub saharan African none muslims, they do not mixs with morocans

i have live with morrocans ,and i can not marry to morocan because i not a muslims and because i m

mix ,father some way i dont know ,If they are not racist why do they say that they are North Africans or middle east or white

they are everywhere in African and live there freely with their systems but nobody from a another region can have that freedom

from their country,why should i let you under my skin.yes its a public forum but i dont want to talk to you.

yes you have offended me .there are so many good morocans but so little ,

i can never marry to a moroccan because i m mix and a none muslims

and also black African or balck American are not the worst people on earth,i dont know about black American but we the Black African

dont kill people .you have to take care with any thing that you are writting in my thread

This forum is for people to help each other with immigration. But you are not filing for benefits and you are not looking to be an immigrant , just what are you doing here ?[/size] You want detailed information about why they won't let Nigerians into the country. It is people like you that cause the problem. Ones who try to hide their personal agenda and work others to get only what they want with no exchange of value for the other person. But that is why they are hard to keep people like you for sneaking into the US.

What story have you shared with me please ?All you said here was only about how Horrible the Black American are ,

and how Nigerian is highly frundulent ,and also how the black race is so bad and at the same time you want to be with one them.

That sounds funny and horrible ,i have said i m not with a USC ,and i m not looking for USC .

i m so tired with the word scammers from you .

why do you talk too much about scammers?

how do you know that there have been scammers here trying to perfect their methods ?

so are you also here trying to perfect your methods?

ENOUGH SAID!

what has she said enough ?

I know morocans are the most races people on earth

they are African and they are ashame to say that they are African .

they say they are north Africans and that they are white

normal i dont want to talk to you because we dont mix with morocans ; but if you continue doing what you are doing .

i will be more aggrasive

.Just answer my Questions ,if you like

you can take any action ,or go to hell ,

i have never visited the north African forum.

you are trying to show people that you are a nice man .

but i know who are morocans .

This forum is for people to help each other with immigration. But you are not filing for benefits and you are not looking to be an immigrant , just what are you doing here ?[/size] You want detailed information about why they won't let Nigerians into the country. It is people like you that cause the problem. Ones who try to hide their personal agenda and work others to get only what they want with no exchange of value for the other person. But that is why they are hard to keep people like you for sneaking into the US.

What story have you shared with me please ?All you said here was only about how Horrible the Black American are ,

and how Nigerian is highly frundulent ,and also how the black race is so bad and at the same time you want to be with one them.

That sounds funny and horrible ,i have said i m not with a USC ,and i m not looking for USC .

i m so tired with the word scammers from you .

why do you talk too much about scammers?

how do you know that there have been scammers here trying to perfect their methods ?

so are you also here trying to perfect your methods?

ENOUGH SAID!

what has she said enough ?

I know morocans are the most races people on earth

they are African and they are ashame to say that they are African .

they say they are north Africans and that they are white

normal i dont want to talk to you because we dont mix with morocans ; but if you continue doing what you are doing .

i will be more aggrasive

.Just answer my Questions ,if you like

you can take any action ,or go to heal ,

i have never visited the north African forum.

you are trying to show people that you are a nice man .

but i know who are morocans .

Interesting.....fishy, defensive and antagonistic....come to your own conclusions people

I dont know what you are talking about ??

Many of us have shared our stories with you yet you are now being rude to us in return. It strikes me that people that want to know the stories of what works and what doesn't but in return want to hide behind a computer screen and are even rude when asked to share their history are up to no good. There have been scammers on here in the past trying to prefect their methods.

EXACTLY! THAT is what's fishy about mankinds posts, it is like he is trying to find out the in's and out's of the immigration process....I don't think it was being rude by asking about his story, that's what this website is about...he is being rude at this point...

I think there is nothing fishy to carry out a migration research,

and reply to people that anyone can read.

This forum is for people to help each other with immigration. But you are not filing for benefits and you are not looking to be an immigrant , just what are you doing here ? You want detailed information about why they won't let Nigerians into the country. It is people like you that cause the problem. Ones who try to hide their personal agenda and work others to get only what they want with no exchange of value for the other person. But that is why they are hard to keep people like you for sneaking into the US.

What story have you shared with me please ?All you said here was only about how Horrible the Black American are ,

and how Nigerian is highly frundulent ,and also how the black race is so bad and at the same time you want to be with one them.

That sounds funny and horrible ,i have said i m not with a USC ,and i m not looking for USC .

i m so tired with the word scammers from you .

why do you talk too much about scammers?

how do you know that there have been scammers here trying to perfect their methods ?

so are you also here trying to perfect your methods?

I think there are people who own this website and they have been seeing what i have been writting

so i m not doing anything wrong ,What problems have i cause ? i dont have anything to hide or any agenda

To sneak overthere to do what ?you are the one trying to sneaking a nigeria to US and the embassy have discovered the

reasons and there is no Visa.there is something wrong with you.

I am looking for ideas of things that I can make there. No oven , no electricity. Primitive cooking with camp like burners. What can I fix there that they might like ? I was thinking pancakes. Is there anything you have had luck with ? Can you get butter or milk there ?

My dear, have ever visited Nigeria? There's no such thing as primitive cooking in Nigeria. We have stove, gas cooker, and electric cooker. Depending on your economical level. FYI: You can make anything there as long as you have the money. If u will be staying lagos/ Abuja, you can go to SHOP RITE there u can get american food like pasta, minced beef. chicken etc.

thanks please ,there is a problem with this girl and Africans

she so negative about Africans and want to live with one of them for the rest

of her live .Its so funny for me .

Many of us have shared our stories with you yet you are now being rude to us in return. It strikes me that people that want to know the stories of what works and what doesn't but in return want to hide behind a computer screen and are even rude when asked to share their history are up to no good. There have been scammers on here in the past trying to prefect their methods.

What story have you shared with me please ?All you said here was only about how Horrible the Black American are ,

and how Nigerian is highly frundulent ,and also how the black race is so bad and at the same time you want to be with one them.

That sounds funny and horrible ,i have said i m not with a USC ,and i m not looking for USC .

i m so tired with the word scammers from you .

why do you talk too much about scammers?

how do you know that there have been scammers here trying to perfect their methods ?

so are you also here trying to perfect your methods?

Hi,

I don't post much here anymore, but I'm still around. Anyway, reading this makes me remember how hard the wait was. I feel for you all still waiting. We were originally denied as well, but had a baby "before the husband's arrival", and I think that helped with them finally pushing it through. But the denial came after the baby, even though he had pictures, birth certificates, letters, emails, plain tickets, hundreds of pages of chat, phone logs, etc. Fortunately for us, it was temporary and he was given the visa soon after.

Sometimes I think they deny, to see if you are really up to the task, and to see how many people will wither away and not return. Keep at it though all of you that are still waiting, and make sure to dot your i's and cross your t's. Don't lie about anything, and get every sort of information you can.

I think it also helps to have coorespondence from your SO with people you personally know, as well as letters of recomendations from family who feel the relationship is valid. I did get many notorized letters from family, as to the validity of the relationship and that seemed to help.

Best Wishes

Jodi

Everybody should read this reply then you people will understand my reasons for the Questions.

mankind, why don't you share your immigration story.

I will inform you all about my life after the research.

I dont have any problem with anybody in the world ,

just trying to know something .

Have a nice time .

i don't see why "research" should prevent you from talking about yourself.

What do you want to know about me ??

Any REASONS ???Will your knowing about me have any impact on your Visajourney?

I will tell my story after my research ,and nobody have the right to tell me to talk about

my self ,i m not interesting in knowing you .

so stop telling me to talk about my self.

Hi,

I don't post much here anymore, but I'm still around. Anyway, reading this makes me remember how hard the wait was. I feel for you all still waiting. We were originally denied as well, but had a baby "before the husband's arrival", and I think that helped with them finally pushing it through. But the denial came after the baby, even though he had pictures, birth certificates, letters, emails, plain tickets, hundreds of pages of chat, phone logs, etc. Fortunately for us, it was temporary and he was given the visa soon after.

Sometimes I think they deny, to see if you are really up to the task, and to see how many people will wither away and not return. Keep at it though all of you that are still waiting, and make sure to dot your i's and cross your t's. Don't lie about anything, and get every sort of information you can.

I think it also helps to have coorespondence from your SO with people you personally know, as well as letters of recomendations from family who feel the relationship is valid. I did get many notorized letters from family, as to the validity of the relationship and that seemed to help.

Best Wishes

Jodi

Everybody should read this reply then you people will understand my reasons for the Questions.

mankind, why don't you share your immigration story.

I will inform you all about my life after the research.

I dont have any problem with anybody in the world ,

just trying to know something .

Have a nice time .

Hi,

I don't post much here anymore, but I'm still around. Anyway, reading this makes me remember how hard the wait was. I feel for you all still waiting. We were originally denied as well, but had a baby "before the husband's arrival", and I think that helped with them finally pushing it through. But the denial came after the baby, even though he had pictures, birth certificates, letters, emails, plain tickets, hundreds of pages of chat, phone logs, etc. Fortunately for us, it was temporary and he was given the visa soon after.

Sometimes I think they deny, to see if you are really up to the task, and to see how many people will wither away and not return. Keep at it though all of you that are still waiting, and make sure to dot your i's and cross your t's. Don't lie about anything, and get every sort of information you can.

I think it also helps to have coorespondence from your SO with people you personally know, as well as letters of recomendations from family who feel the relationship is valid. I did get many notorized letters from family, as to the validity of the relationship and that seemed to help.

Best Wishes

Jodi

Everybody should read this reply then you people will understand my reasons for the Questions.

No offence to the OP, however this thread seems very strange to me. What exactly are you trying to find out and why? Do you have personal gain in this knowledge that you are so skillfully plucking from people and yet revealing nothing of yourself?

You know, I was thinking the same thing, and I was waiting to see if someone else would pick up on it....nothing personal, but something seems fishy...

You know what ?You where waiting to see someone pick up at what ?

the questions i m asking are here ,please answer them if you like .

what is fishy ?Can you tell me what is fishy with my questions?

No offence to the OP, however this thread seems very strange to me. What exactly are you trying to find out and why? Do you have personal gain in this knowledge that you are so skillfully plucking from people and yet revealing nothing of yourself?

Why is the thread very strange to you ?

Read carefully and you will find out what i m trying know ?

why ? just want to know.

Do you like to know about me ? if yes why ?

have you reveal something about yourself to me ?

I don't hate blacks I hate the image that has become the predominate reflection of the race. You can get ahead in the US if you take responsibility for getting ahead. Unfortunately our culture likes to let ofthers be responsibility for failure. Parents, teachers, the system. I have had the opportunity to ask people questions and the answers are amazing. I had a petty theif tell me that the reason he stole was because "my people where brought here as slaves" This man was at least 4 generations removed from anyone who had been a slave , yet still that was the cause of his issues. He is angry at the world and make free use of profane words. In contrast I work with a brilliant young girl that is about the same age and background and she is working towards her masters. Sadly many people follow the path of the first young man to varying degrees because it is an easier path.

As to your second question about churches and fraud. Yes churches can be fraud , but even in them you can find an honest Christian just as in a good church you can find people who's heart is full of evil.

You have made several comments about the evil the french have done in Africa but how was their colonization different from that of other countries ?

I m so sick when people can know a race like this and at the same time they like to have kids and a family with them .

its so funny .i cant understand why ??you like the about comment and your kid is a black and you want to marry the father of your kid?

who is an African ,my OUESTION ,HOW do you think this boy from benin is not more horrible like the blacks in US?

And also there are alot of traditions in African concerning marriages ,do you know this traditions ?

Can you treat this boy like an African girl will do ? this is because African even educated like to follow their system or traditions .

you have to try to look at the black people in the US and the African carefully before ever making a decision to be with one of them .

the blacks in the US are African but there are completely different from the African with everything in life.

i m so happy seeing lover's like you ,but you have to stop supporting poor comments about black .

First of all, I never made my comment. I intended to, but I was suddenly called away and somehow my reply without my comment was posted. Secondly, I am already married to the father of my child. One of the things he admired most about me before our marriage was my acceptance of his culture and ways. That is not to say I am not frustrated and annoyed by some of his ways just as he is frustrated and annoyed by some of mine. But that is life, especially married life.

Can I treat my husband as an African woman would? Almost certainly not. Can he treat me like an American man would? Highly unlikely.

Now I WILL make a comment, and that is that I will agressively confront anyone who has lower expectations of performance and behavior for my daughter because she is Black. I know many well-meaning people who do have lower expectations for Blacks and other minorities or people living in poverty, all in the name of political correctness. I will fight these lower expectations even if it means expressing disapproval of an aspect of a culture. Even if it means being politcally incorrect and offending people who see race first.

When I first began teaching and was in a predominately Black school, I was appalled to observe that any Black student who was remotely studious was accused by his or her fellow Black students of "being White." He or she was ostracized and called an "Uncle Tom." Would you excuse this as part of the culture and therefore defend it? If so, you would be supporting lower expectations of academic achievement for an entire race of people. How can students be expected to compete when studiousness is considered a foreign and contemptuous trait? I cannot support this and will stand up against this and similar attitudes for the sake of my daughter among others.

I taught with young White teachers from the Northeast recruited fresh out of Ivy League universities to teach in underachieving schools with high minority and poor populations and who had never really been around Black people before. On some level they thought of themselves as saviors coming in to defend the poor black students from their "White, racist, Southern, teachers." (Imagine their surprise when they discovered that the majority of the teachers were also Black.) Whenever a White student would be disrespectful or lazy, etc., these young teachers were horrified, but when the Black students would behave similarly, they excused the behavior as justified because of their circumstances. How can this be okay? It is this sort of political correct, well-meaning, "liberal" attitude that promotes failure, and I won't be a party to it, even if it makes ignorant people call me racist. I firmly believe in holding everyone to the same expectations regardless of race, gender, or socio-economic background. I believe that is what Nigeriaorbust meant by her comment.

After 12 years abroad now having returned to an American public school, I don't see the above described attitudes nearly as much, but I do see that all my students, regardless of race or gender with the exception of some recent immigrants (all my students are from low socio-economic backgrounds) all have the same low level of expectation of behavior and achievement. It seems instead of raising the bar across the board, we have lowered it. But I probably shouldn't make a generalization here. My position dictates that I teach the lowest performing students, so hopefully, things have changed completely from what I experienced before I went abroad.

NOW, my initial reason for replying to the above post was to comment on French colonization. The real issue of French colonization is that the French profited from their colonies but left little infrastructure, while the British at least left relatively good infrastructures. However, the French interfered much less. Perhaps that was not a good thing, but at least it was an attitude more accepting of the cultures they found. The British always seemed to want to recreate the "natives" in their image. The French sort of lived and let live.

After reading your last post ,i want to say I M SORRY about the comment i made .

But not on the french policies in African.

The world need people like you .

I don't hate blacks I hate the image that has become the predominate reflection of the race. You can get ahead in the US if you take responsibility for getting ahead. Unfortunately our culture likes to let ofthers be responsibility for failure. Parents, teachers, the system. I have had the opportunity to ask people questions and the answers are amazing. I had a petty theif tell me that the reason he stole was because "my people where brought here as slaves" This man was at least 4 generations removed from anyone who had been a slave , yet still that was the cause of his issues. He is angry at the world and make free use of profane words. In contrast I work with a brilliant young girl that is about the same age and background and she is working towards her masters. Sadly many people follow the path of the first young man to varying degrees because it is an easier path.

As to your second question about churches and fraud. Yes churches can be fraud , but even in them you can find an honest Christian just as in a good church you can find people who's heart is full of evil.

You have made several comments about the evil the french have done in Africa but how was their colonization different from that of other countries ?

I m so sick when people can know a race like this and at the same time they like to have kids and a family with them .

its so funny .i cant understand why ??you like the about comment and your kid is a black and you want to marry the father of your kid?

who is an African ,my OUESTION ,HOW do you think this boy from benin is not more horrible like the blacks in US?

And also there are alot of traditions in African concerning marriages ,do you know this traditions ?

Can you treat this boy like an African girl will do ? this is because African even educated like to follow their system or traditions .

you have to try to look at the black people in the US and the African carefully before ever making a decision to be with one of them .

the blacks in the US are African but there are completely different from the African with everything in life.

i m so happy seeing lover's like you ,but you have to stop supporting poor comments about black .

I don't hate blacks I hate the image that has become the predominate reflection of the race. You can get ahead in the US if you take responsibility for getting ahead. Unfortunately our culture likes to let ofthers be responsibility for failure. Parents, teachers, the system. I have had the opportunity to ask people questions and the answers are amazing. I had a petty theif tell me that the reason he stole was because "my people where brought here as slaves" This man was at least 4 generations removed from anyone who had been a slave , yet still that was the cause of his issues. He is angry at the world and make free use of profane words. In contrast I work with a brilliant young girl that is about the same age and background and she is working towards her masters. Sadly many people follow the path of the first young man to varying degrees because it is an easier path.

As to your second question about churches and fraud. Yes churches can be fraud , but even in them you can find an honest Christian just as in a good church you can find people who's heart is full of evil.

You have made several comments about the evil the french have done in Africa but how was their colonization different from that of other countries ?

I m so happy that you dont hate blacks

What images predominatly reflects the Black race in the US?

just asking because i dont know .

It is different because the french are till supporting horrible heads of state in African

the british were also in African but there are not supporting the dictator's in their various

colonial empire in African example Zimbabwe.

the french are till only receiving and using the African .

BUSH help the African alot with his HIV Aids policies in African

now alot of African can live ,without this Aid by bush ,i think it would

have been a diseaster,the french who where the principle colonial master

have never done anything like that in African ,they are only supporting this dictators

and having their cheap resources from their former colonies .

that is why i have been complaining alot about french .

RDSEY: Just so I can better understand the situation, here are some questions:

- Your husband is from Nigeria and you are a US resident/citizen?

- Were you the I-864 (financial supporter) when your husband applied for the green card?

- Do you have children with him?

- I am confused as to whether you did file for divorce or not, and if it was granted or not.

As other people have already mentioned, your husband can file to remove the conditions without your name. Given the situation, he is probably filing it separately but I think he needs some sort of paperwork to show he is divorced or getting the divorce, etc. If he has children with you, this may work in his favor. If he is using your name in the application (as if he is filing it jointly) then he is committing a serious fraud.

Unfortunately, there is no way you can ensure that. But if you think he engaged in a marriage with you only to acquire a Green Card, I believe you can report him to the immigration. But be prepared to prove (as I think you are doing) that the marriage was on good faith from your part. Being in good-faith doesn't only mean you didn't cheat on him, but it mostly means you truly wanted to get married to be together as a couple, it means you didn't get married just to keep someone in the country.

Also, if you were the one who signed the I-864, unfortunately you are responsible as his financial supporter until he becomes a US citizen, dies, or other options (I don't really recall all the alternatives). So, if you truly think and you can prove he got married not in good-faith, I think you should report him.

Forget all this discussion going on about countries, scams, etc. Scams happen everywhere unfortunately. And if you were caught in one (without knowing it), then you should take actions to protect yourself.

A VERY VERY GOOD PERSON

THE WORLD NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU

STAY BLESSED

First of all i will like to say alot of us like to see lover's and family like you

your points are good and i m so happy that you are with and African .

people here made me to know that the reason why VIsas are been denied is because of fraud .

Also please may be you are not so inform ,there are fraudster everywhere in world .

the problem is most people in the west are so intelligent in doing fraudulent activities ,that is why its

can never be realised .

You are wrong that is exactly what I said earlier in this thread. That I do realize the education level and lack of opportunities. Please see quote below:

Nigerians were among the first to use the internet to take advantage of others. They quickly become associated with the letters from people seeking help in getting millions out of some where if only you can help them a little. In fact those scams are called by the Nigerian penal code number 419 for those scams. So when people take online scams they frequently say "Nigerian 419". Most people have little other reason to think of Nigeria.

That means the only words they hear about Nigeria is SCAM. If someone introduced you to a woman and said she was lazy , and the next person said she was lazy you might think she was lazy , not even knowing how she really is. It is that way with Nigerians , the first time you heard of them , they were scammers, the second time they were scammers. So you starting Nigerian and scammer are the same thing.

I have to disagree completely. Nigerians were not the first to use the Internet to take advantage of others. American have been using the Internet to take advantage of others way before Nigerian had readily available access to the Internet. Nigerian might have been the first to make a significant amount of money from it due to their high education rate and lack of jobs. But not the first to take advantage of others. I am sure America can take the trophy on that one.

Yes please i cant say YES or No about this because i m not inform about IT.

i dont know the people who started this bad activities .

I only know about the horrible french activities till going on in African today after colonisation .

I m so sad about this activities.

I understand what is marketed is not what the "norm" is. But I am also aware that there is a generation being raised by parents that think the F word is part of normal conversation and there are toddlers being raised in homes where the music they listen to reflects a total disregard for everything decent. I was raised in a home where the music when it was allowed was religious , classical or what is now termed blue grass. TV was the Walt Disney show and Ed Sullivan ( yes I am old ) . Even in my SO country they have dance that is very earthy but the songs don't glorify the violence that our culture does. I truly believe much of what is gone wrong lately is from the lazy disrespectful culture we have popularized. As you sow so shall you reap.

I think you are mixing two different issues. You started out talking about race and now you're talking about generation. I agree that younger generations are different and sometimes develop different norms and standards different than their parents. I think the problem that you are referring to is that some parents don't "parent". They are not actively engaged in what their children are exposed to and in helping them interpret their meaning and importance. Of course this isn't all parents, and some do a better job than others.

And what race sings most of these songs, glorifies gangs and drugs the most ?

There a tons of great music (that span many different genres) made by African Americans that do not get the air play that the exploitative songs do. Why? Because that's not what the executives want to promote. Why? Because they think it won't be profitable.

In any case, I think you've made your mind up. Just consider that the same way you are generalizing African Americans will be the same way people will generalize your Nigerian fiance/husband. And I bet you will think they are being every bit of unreasonable when your SO is the target.

You are really making sense here ,How can someone thinks about a race so badly the way she thinks and have already made her mind about the race and is till

fightinng with the USM to have a Visa for her fiance who is a black ,and as she has said that nigeria is a highly fraudulent country ?

I will never try to marry someone from a race i dont like ,and also from a very fraudulent country as she has been saying .

she is angry with the black in the US and also she is so informed about nigerian and at same time her fiance is from nigeria

and she has been with him for 4 year and his family for 10year .

so my QUESTION ,How are you sure your fiance and his family are not joking you and later it will be a sham marriage ?

because some have said here that even the churches in nigeria are fraudulent .

any respond to the above questions will be highly appreciated

I think you are missing your own point. You originally asked why so many Africans are denied visas and you responded that there are fraudsters in every country. The truth is, there are very few people from developed countries who fraudulently enter into a relationship with a USC for the purposes of getting an American greencard. There simply isn't the motivation in those countries to forsake your own country to live under the law in the US. (When you live illegally in the US, you can't visit your own country or you won't be allowed back in the US.) That lack of motivation to illegally immigrate to the US is why some countries qualify for the visa waiver program. This is not just speculation on the part of the US government. There are statistics that show people from certain countries are more likely to overstay tourist or student visas or to be involved in visa fraud in the case of fiance/spouse visas. For example, while the rest of Europe qualified for the visa waiver program, Greece and Portugal did not because too many people from those countries overstayed their tourist visas. It had nothing to do with geography or race. It was based solely on trends. Trends show that Nigeria, among other countries, has a percentage of visa applicants who have applied fraudulently.

As for scammers and corruption in other countries, it is not the same as what occurs in Nigeria, other African countries, and other third-world countries. Certainly there is fraud in every country, but it is not so widespread as what we see in countries such as Nigeria. In the US, we don't have to pay a bribe to get a phone or a building permit, etc., for example. It is not the norm here for contractors to have to grease the palms of government officials and pay a kickback to get contracts, etc. It is pretty much unheard of to be stopped by a policeman and have to pay a bribe in order to continue on your way. The average American never encounters such corruption. The average American, Australian, European is never directly affected by corruption. Sadly, the same cannot be said about a lot of other countries' citizens.

I'm not suggesting that Nigerians are evil people. But you have to face reality. There are consequences for bad behavior and OFTEN it is the honest people who have to pay the biggest price. You cannot deny the culture of corruption that exists in Nigeria. Unfortunately, corruption is so much a part of life in many African countries that the average citizen does not fight it because they see no way around it. This way of thinking would shock the average American. Your typical American on hearing about having to pay to get a phone line would ask why the authorities weren't called, or the media. They would not understand and would consider the person paying the bribe part of the problem.

First of all i will like to say alot of us like to see lover's and family like you

your points are good and i m so happy that you are with and African .

people here made me to know that the reason why VIsas are been denied is because of fraud .

Also please may be you are not so inform ,there are fraudster everywhere in world .

the problem is most people in the west are so intelligent in doing fraudulent activities ,that is why its

can never be realised .

but at least it is clear that most nigerian visas ARE denied.

There are more approved Visa's then denied.

Lately there have been no straight up appovals, Just AP after AP. And of the approvals over the last year there have been several obvious shams marraiges that have already been exposed and others that will be as soon as the 10 year card is in hand.

I personally like when people do say the truth ,and i think you are doing that

but i cant really understand WHY there are Alot of USC petitioning for Nigeria ?

when they all have confident that after the 10year card it will be a sham marriage ???

Every month i see about 20 petitions been send to nigeria by USC ,ARe all this cases sham marriages ??

What is a sham Marriage please ??

thanks

It appears to be the American way for all people of color. In America we may have everything we want, BUT racism is very much alive. Racisism is just like a cancer. It goes into remission, but every now and then it flairs up again.

It appears they dont really care if you love ypur spouse, they will not take the time to even look at ll your paperwork, although ther evidence is there and very clear.

I am not disputing the fact that there is not fraud in Nigeria, as i have traveled there 3 times and I saw it first hand, but at least it is clear that most nigerian visas ARE denied.

Part of the problem blacks have isn't as much racism as it is the image some of created of being lawless and full of bad. Look at the all the drugs and violence that are gloried as art today. This is not a people that I want to welcome no matter the color of their skin, not a culture I welcome. Yet I hear their music so often in cars near mine. The disrespect of womenhood, the law and life.

Are you saying that Black people in the US are lawless and full of bad ?

Are the Blacks in US involved with violence and drugs? ,if that is true then is bad .

may be this are the major reasons for visas been denied .but how can this affect people

who are inlove and want to live together ??

but not all black are using drugs or are full of bad

there are alot of white people living and working in some African states very peaceful.

without any trouble at all.

It appears to be the American way for all people of color. In America we may have everything we want, BUT racism is very much alive. Racisism is just like a cancer. It goes into remission, but every now and then it flairs up again.

It appears they dont really care if you love ypur spouse, they will not take the time to even look at ll your paperwork, although ther evidence is there and very clear.

I am not disputing the fact that there is not fraud in Nigeria, as i have traveled there 3 times and I saw it first hand, but at least it is clear that most nigerian visas ARE denied.

A very very Good point .

that is so bad ,people have to prepared evident for year and travel 3 times a year to be, with

their lovers and finally they are been denied ,no evidence are look ,i cant understand how ,without

looking at evidence someone can conclude or determine that the relationship is fraud ?

I think there is a main reason why this Visas are been denied .

and its is Africans are not needed or welcome in USA anymore .

Some are already there .

Nigerians were among the first to use the internet to take advantage of others. They quickly become associated with the letters from people seeking help in getting millions out of some where if only you can help them a little. In fact those scams are called by the Nigerian penal code number 419 for those scams. So when people take online scams they frequently say "Nigerian 419". Most people have little other reason to think of Nigeria.

That means the only words they hear about Nigeria is SCAM. If someone introduced you to a woman and said she was lazy , and the next person said she was lazy you might think she was lazy , not even knowing how she really is. It is that way with Nigerians , the first time you heard of them , they were scammers, the second time they were scammers. So you starting Nigerian and scammer are the same thing.

I have to disagree completely. Nigerians were not the first to use the Internet to take advantage of others. American have been using the Internet to take advantage of others way before Nigerian had readily available access to the Internet. Nigerian might have been the first to make a significant amount of money from it due to their high education rate and lack of jobs. But not the first to take advantage of others. I am sure America can take the trophy on that one.

Thanks I like you people ,because you people are so honest and say the right things.

But if this scammer are using the internet to have money and not doing anything bad to embassy

why should everybody be put in AP or AR or denied ?

because i have been at this site for some months now but i have not seen any person in nigeria

granted a visa ,all are put in AP or AR or denied.

which seems as if the embassy is thinking that all the case are fraud ,can that be true ???

Yes! I had original copies that listed the country and the number called. The simple fact is, THEY DID Not even look at any of our evidence. Only took 2 or 3 photos from us and then started asking the questions. I even had my airline boarding passes, if they even cared to look at them!

I m so sorry for the situation

that is what i have just been writting with some girl here

its horrible ,without looking at the evidences how can the CO

determed that the relationship was arrange .

it is just because is an Africa state

no matter what proofs you have ,its does makes no sense to CO.