Dau Que

Hi,

Im going to VN in Jan for Tet. Should I go ahead and book my ticket now or just wait for a few more months? Im just afraid its too soon now to book it. And the price now is a very decent price for Tet season. Any suggestions? Thanks alot

Afraid of what? not able to pay your credit card bill when it's due a month later or what else? When you book an airline ticket many months in advance, you'll be rewarded with steep discount since the airline knows there's one less seat to worry about. Tet is a hot travel period in VN. If you wait near the travel date, not only the price will go up, you might also risk the chance not able to secure a seat as well.

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This is so funny. A month before my fiance got her K1 approved, she was stopped on her motorbike by a police officer. The moron wanted a bribe so she could get out of the ticket. The guy was wearing you guessed it: sunglasses.....and he was smoking. I guess he can't do these anymore. Now if only the VN government would do something about this bribing nonsense

Does this mean the next day a Viet Kieu going back to VN, bringing with him/her lots of Raybans, he/she wouldn't need to worry to bribe the guy working at the Custom booth since those shades are pretty much useless to them now?

Wait! they can still pawn the shades in the black market ( Cho Den) right? Damn, I'm so naive!

Hi! Does anyone know what the Consulate means when they said we need 10 year residency? What kind of proof are they looking for? I've seen this several times.

Thanks much!

They wanna know which hospitals you've been working to satisfy your residency requirement before graduating your med school. You should include a detail list of past hospitals you residented. It wouldn't hurt to go back to each hospital and request a written residency verification from the floor supervisor there.

Are you people serious? She is a grown woman! You act like she's a 5 year-old baby or something. Lots of VN Seniors (over 70) on tourist Visas travel by themselves just fine.

And if the Mom-in-law is strict (still practicing the old VNese traditional customs), she wouldn't come to pick up her soon to be daughter-in-law (K-1 cases) if she (the beneficiary) and he (the petitioner) already engaged in sexual activities. But this is the 21st century where married folks think prostitution should be legalized.

Well I just talked to an NVC operator after waiting for 30 minutes and still nothing yet. They still didn't receive the package from USCIS yet. Man what's taking so long here???

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You forgot to press that Red button! That's why it takes so long.

To all those 58,000 plus lost personels of the US army, a big Thank you and Appreciation on this Memorial Day 2011!. Without your sacrifice, people like myself and many others would never have the opportunity to immigrate to the USA today and have a much better life compared to what we did have in our original birth country.

Freedom is not free. Your gift of freedom to my family won't be ever forgotten.

I'm glad to hear that Xinh has been reading this thread. Laugh, Xinh, you prob is the only person knowing 100% what I'm heading.

OK, Ok. I won't spoil any of your future planning. None of my biz (MYOB) anyway. Just remember, there's a famous saying about VNese women "Cong, Dung, Ngon, Hanh".

You should know and understand that expression well. One day hopefully Will will be explained (not by words, but by your actions) to his expectation and satisfaction.

as long as women choose to do it for a living , not being force into doing that then let them be. after all it a free country .

if people truly wanna stop stuff like strip clubs and prostitution then create decent paying jobs for those women , that is the best way to deal with it, not making it illegal and jail them. think out side of the box people .

Sure. If you happen to have a daughter, when she's bound for college, just tell her "College? Nargh. Too boring! Hooters, Strip clubs! more fun and chance to express yourself! Why stressing yourself out for 4 years and might still being unemployed Vs. lots and lots of dough now?"

And I'm sure your wife (the Mom) would be thrilled to high-5 with you on the decision as well.

After all, if noone is willing to make this type of decision, who would be the waitresses at those Cafe shops right?

Now that I've read all of your Danielle Steel style romantic novel, I'll chime in my bell. (by the way, love your story. At least if a person like you spending that much time sharing personal info with strangers on the net, I'd think you're a passionate and caring person. I can't say the same about Xinh though since I haven't heard from her.....yet)

Aren't you supposed to be financially responsible to your existing 3 kids? (child support). When Xinh finally comes over here, she might ask for her own baby. Get ready for that now. You're assuming your X would be the same nice person forever. You do realize that people are just like the weather right? One day sunshine but the next an EF5 tornado! The same thing can be applied to Xinh as well. You said Minh was angry at you for NOT complying her request to get to know her relative (meaning Minh's family won't benefit from you, a potential Visa and chance to immigrate to the US. Gee what a surprise there). Xinh has lots of relatives here (you have to assume there might be some relatives her family hasn't informed you just yet). Plus the fact her Mom was here twice. Xinh's family knows how to play the system! Sure, she makes a decent living there but that's actually scary for you. She will eventually one day in the future ask you to sell your 401K, house, whatever else and move to VN to live with her and/or family. What will you respond then? Saying no? Then you're back to square one like right now, except a few years or decades older.

Whatever you do Will, please take my 2cent advice which I learnt from one of relative "Earning/Making money is actually quite easy. Keeping what you already have is a lot harder than thought." You understand me Will?

Neither. Regular First class with Return receipt (proof of delivery). In The US, there virtually is NO difference in delivery time between first class and Priority mail (Yes, USPS, I know they won't like what I'm posting)

i hope you not gona pick on me next teacher mark , my english even worst than that dau que guy

Be....Worse......Worst

And the ESL teacher missed on that?

You like to praise the Bill of Rights, but you think women don't have rights in regard to their body?

Your English has improved significantly, by the way. I still disagree with most of what you post, but your message is a lot clearer.

Using your logic, if a lady showing up in your church (assuming you're a Pastor there) saying "Hey, it's my first amendment right and I prefer not to wear any clothing", would you agree?

Back to the issue a woman can choose to "display" her body if she wants to. Perfectly OK and acceptable. We're talking about "indecent activities" here in those coffee shops, ie. inappropriate touching, sometimes sexual activities.

Why don't those Vnese girls go work at Hooters if they really enjoy displaying their "assets"? Because they know they want to commit in illegal activities not permitted at Hooters.

PS> Mark, thank you for the compliment in regards to my English. At least I've tried to improve it. I know a few Vnese ladies being in the US for 5 to 12 months. Yet they refuse to improve their English so they can pass that USC Naturalization Test. They speak mostly Vnese in their nail salon shops and watch nothing but Chinese movies with Vnese subtitles. (or a few of those Cafe shops customers speak nothing but "So Nho" (cursing words)).

In Houston there are lots and lots and lots of Cafes popping in biz lately. I guess lots of ladies figuring instead of hard working at McD's, or Home Depot, whatever, they might as well "take advantage" of their "assets". Lots of folks where I work often invite me to join them to pay visits to these "cafes" after work, especially on the weekends and/or Fridays evening.

I told them "Sure, who wouldn't wanna some fun? But if I see one of my daughters or my wife working in there dressing up like that, do you think I still enjoy my cup of java?".

Their response? "Do I care? As long as they're not my wife, daughter, not my prob!"

I guess it's the same feeling for prostitution as well.

So for those folks who think it's no harm, no foul, read the above story and reevaluate your moral meter.

ok today online i see they sent a request for evidence and my wife is going crazy. i didnt send any tax papers or anything with the petition so is that what it could be for or is is that asked for in another step?also ccan i send any other evidence in at this time such as adress of ex wife ect.thanks

If you're filing a K-1, it's wise not to call her "wife". She won't be so til the two of you are legally bound by a piece of paper, which right now not happening yet.

Hi all,

I'm new to the forum, really great stuff, thank you everyone for posting helpful content. I have some random questions about the process that I wanted to run by everyone to get your take.

1) Were you present at your beneficiary's interview in HCMC? If so, did they end up interviewing you? Do you think it's a good idea to be there?

2) Have you heard of fact checking calls? As in, during your beneficiary's interview, they call you up to verify pieces of information. My fiance told me that people she knows who have recently been interviewed experienced issues where the consulate has called their significant other in the US to verify facts—during the actual interview. Have you heard of this?

3) How did you set up finances when your significant other arrived to the US? Did you just open a joint bank account?

Thanks in advance!

Not only that, I bought mine a brand new Lexus and a $300K mansion, ready on the first day she stepped her feet in the US

I've been following this story but, unfortunately, cannot personally investigate.

Likely it is much ado about nothing. The police are throwing around phrases like "suspected prostitution" and yet they have not arrested anyone for it in the establishment. Talk about slander.

Being served by girls in skimpy outfits does not = illegal and it shouldn't. Big fricken deal. If the cops can prove prostituion is taking place, then okay. But prove it first. Don't just say it is there because you don't like looking at pretty little Asian bodies.

Let me add this: Prostituion being illegal has lead to the continued increase in the number of girls, many of them underage, sold into slavery and forced into brothels all across this country. The more it is illegal, the more innocent women and young girls will be exploited in a life of brutality. I'm speaking with real knowledge here after researching the issue for a book I am working on. Porn is legal, but prostitution is not and that has lead to serious crimes being committed that no one wants to talk about.

Agree with the bold part. As long as someone else's wife or daughter doing the nekkid part, I'm OK with it. Just not my own! See the immoral part of this logic, anyone?

OP, ask her to visit US consulate website for detail instructions on how to apply for that tourist Visa. She'll pass on the fly since she has an extensive history of traveling and always returned back to VN.

As far as you're concerned, finalized your divorce ASAP and then file for a K-1 petition right away after that. Your case is straight and very simple. She'll be guaranteed another Visa just like that.

obviously settings and circumstances contribute alot to whether a comment is acceptable or not. if i'm at the gym then a "hey you look alot firmer since a few weeks ago" would go better than at work...and maybe a "your hair looks fab today" is a nice compliment to your wife's gf. but if you keep up with the compliments to that one target with and w/o your wife present and it's going to get uncomfortable real fast.

hey we need tuanv back, he started a lively debate and hasn't been heard back since!

Does it matter? If he decides one day (in his moral dictionary) that it's acceptable to go robbing a bank, would you agree and do the same thing? He raised this debate because it was Friday and he probably was bored at work.

As you can see from the answers from this thread, different people look at the issue differently. That's why we have the court system and sexual harassment cases. Obviously one party thinks the comment is cute and funny and the other thinks the opposite.

No, not crazy and not a moron. Those things do happen, and there's nothing wrong with warning people about them. What's wrong is presuming every case is primarily motivated by fraud, and then delivering that conclusion with the subtlety of a sledge hammer to the forehead.

I'll jump off my moral high horse for a moment and proclaim that every relationship on VJ includes a desire to move to the US. If there was no desire then they wouldn't be bothering with the immigration process. I'll go even further and state that a disproportionate number of foreign beneficiary's in Vietnam are motivated more by their desire to immigrate than anything else, and some are motivated by nothing else. There, I've said it.

You'll help people a lot more if you can point out the signs that would indicate to the petitioner that they might be getting played for a green card, rather than concluding that it must be fraud if the beneficiary is Vietnamese and they're breathing.

Jim, with only the limited info the OP provided, noone can know for sure what the circumstances are for this particular case. Heck, I can bet the OP wouldn't even know for sure 100% about her and her family (including the former hubby). Don't be so sure an X-spouse means they don't have a physical relationship behind the current one's back. A night at a rented hotel room isn't outta reach for most working Vnese, right?

Now back to this case, being at 36 with one young child and her willingness to get involved with someone 20 years older half around the world (might not even speak her tongue language and fully understand her country custom and traditions), I'm sure she's madly in love with the OP of this thread!!!!!!!!

Let me just read in between the lines for everyone, including the OP. Her son is 9 years old and she divorced him 9 years ago! Got where I'm heading?

Hello: I'm a male 56 yrs old in USA, my Fiancee is 36 yrs old in Vietnam. We skyped 3 years over internet have been engaged about a year over the internet, and I visited her for 3 weeks a couple months ago. She has a son age 9 and she's been divorced for about 9 years as well.

We have been told that because Vietnam is one of the most strengent countries to allow their citizens to leave, that getting married there helps to insure her country allowing her to leave which would = a Cr-1 if I understand correctly.

On the other hand.. I've had an attorney to tell me just the opposite, that the CR-1 paper work makes it about 6 times more likely to encounter denials from either country, and he recommended a K1 for her and I think it is a K2 for the son.

Doe's anyone know which K1 / K2 or CR-1 is most appropiate for my Fiancee ? Which would insure her the best chances of being allowed to leave Vietnam though the eyes of the vietnamese government ?

Also as an american citizen I was told with a K1 I would not need a physical, but with a CR1 (K3) Vietnam would require a stringent physical there. Does anyone know about this ?

Thanks in advance for any and all help.

John II

That lady knows very well she needs to get here (the States) quickly so her son can benefit from the American educational system early. Maybe her family (ie. siblings) already tried to file a petition for her family. However, she knows very well it would take at least 10 years for that type of petition to get approved. Her son would be too old by then.

What a typical classic textbook immigration story: Mom got a early teen child/children. She knows the quickest way to get to America is via a USC. Therefore, she divorced her former hubby (the child's father). After she and her children/child step their feet on America and obtain citizenship 3 years later, find a clever excuse to file for divorce. A couple years later, reconciling with the former X hubby.

But of course, Dau Que is crazy and a moron! He's just imagining these things in his head. No such thing ever occurs in real life.

Flirt all you want but make sure it doesn't come to a point in which the other party responds back to you with this:

" Do Vo Duyen Thui"

Don't understand what that means? Ask your wife! It's a Vnese forum, isn't it?

Hello: I'm a male 56 yrs old in USA, my Fiancee is 36 yrs old in Vietnam. We skyped 3 years over internet have been engaged about a year over the internet, and I visited her for 3 weeks a couple months ago. She has a son age 9 and she's been divorced for about 9 years as well.

We have been told that because Vietnam is one of the most strengent countries to allow their citizens to leave, that getting married there helps to insure her country allowing her to leave which would = a Cr-1 if I understand correctly.

On the other hand.. I've had an attorney to tell me just the opposite, that the CR-1 paper work makes it about 6 times more likely to encounter denials from either country, and he recommended a K1 for her and I think it is a K2 for the son.

Doe's anyone know which K1 / K2 or CR-1 is most appropiate for my Fiancee ? Which would insure her the best chances of being allowed to leave Vietnam though the eyes of the vietnamese government ?

Also as an american citizen I was told with a K1 I would not need a physical, but with a CR1 (K3) Vietnam would require a stringent physical there. Does anyone know about this ?

Thanks in advance for any and all help.

John II

Go with the K-1 route! She'll be able to come to the States much quicker. At her age, if you choose other routes, her eggs might not be there for their purpose after she got her hands on that Visa!

My fiancee passed her interview and came to America now. So you ou are totally wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You two want a refund of my service fee?

Heck, a token of appreciation of your biz, I'll even throw in a pack of condoms for free!

Is flirting harmless? Do you guys flirt with co-workers?

How do you suppose I climbed all the way to upper management today? Of course, with lots of kissing #### and flirting with the "management".

Are you testing out the "moral" machine in here to see whether it's still functional on Fridays?

Bah Hah, in here? the VNese immigration forum? Bah hah! where the moral to be honest and play by the rules is almost close to zero.

My theory about "the evidence of residency of the relatives" is that they want to test how "close" she is with those relatives. Frankly, if I'm not that close to someone, even if that person is one of my parents or my wife or whoever, I ain't sharing my personal residential info. They want to "guess" which relative is close to her enough to check on that individual whether he/she has filed any immigration petition for anyone in the family. Being too close to lots of relatives in the States can be hazardous to your immigration Visa.

If she can't get her hands on those info, write a notarized statement indicating so. She can let the C/O where they live, if she knows, but she can't force them to provide such private info.