JorgeGu

Did she personally get the benefits or were they filed through her husband an/or child? If it is the latter, there wouldn't be any danger.

I have no way of knowing if she filed through her husband or child, the child is American by birth; her husband has a technical job with a company so I doubt he participated in the filing, he would have been rejected. Also replying to others: she left the country and came back apparently without losing her conditional residence, I'm not sure if her new husband claimed her for removal of conditions or if she filed on her own as I was told she could do, the fact is that she ended up being a permanent resident and married last year, has a child and get assistance; I hear she is in the process of bringing two other children from former marriages so I keep wondering how she manages to get assistance and qualify to bring more mouths to feed

Question, I married this woman in 2004, we separated in 2005 when I found out about her infidelity, she had been conditionally approved by then; she left the country for a while and came back and she married and had a child from an american man; I hear she is gets some help from the welfare department in terms of milk and what have you; is there any chance I might be liable for having sponsored her with an Affidavit of Support back then? back at that time I called Immigration and they asked me to write a letter withdrawing the Affidavit but now I read in other posts that the last chance to cancel it is just before the conditional green card is issued. Thanks for your opinions.

So you committed fraud as well, when you married an already married woman? And did you petition her based on this marriage?

What about reporting your 'fraudulent deeds'?

This is the sorry part about VJ, there are the resident gumshoes, the resident pyschologists and the resident prosecutors...in this case you are jumping to conclusions but I'll do you a favor and respond to your unwarranted insult, when the divorce came up I unearthed all kinds of evidence the marriage was entered in bad faith, there were e-mails to one of her former husbands who was hitting her for money, there were numerous calls she frequently made back home, so I contacted an attorney overseas and asked him to get me more information on her, it turns out that she wasn't divorced when she married me, among other jewels...satisfied now? what is your next wild-#### assumption?

Report her! It's the ethical thing to do.

Exactly, it's the ethical thing to do.... this is one of the things I struggle with, I could ignore the whole thing and just go on with my life but the perpetration is going on with impunity and this bothers me. I have one final thing that holds me back as I still ponder on the matter; I don't want to get into litigation, I had enough of that with her, if I submit the stamped, sealed and signed documents from my overseas attorney what value will ICE attach to such evidence? I say this because the attorney who divorced me used this reasoning, she could claim they are fake documents and the proof of burden would be on me, as I mentioned in my initial note this attorney wanted to FLY this other foreign attorney from overseas (he was someone who did not even own a passport so imagine the costs of getting him readied to come to this country plus his fees, travel expenses and would he want to leave his practice for whatever time this took?).

Now the indisputable evidence is photos that I have of her with her lover but I've read enough of VJ to know that someone can claim to "have entered the marriage in good faith" and then gotten herself a lover..'Once the marriage didn't work" one of the photos though has a calendar behind it showing the month of august the same month she persuaded me to follow through with the visa appointment

thanks for your input if you reply please address both points above

Well I found out through acquaintances that the woman who committed marriage fraud and adultery against me has obtained permanent legal residence (we split shortly after she obtained her two-year conditional).

She was still married overseas when we married I have documentation from my attorney overseas to that effect, at one time before I filed for her she claimed abuse which she later recanted in a signed hand-written statement before two witnesses: my lawyer and a priest who translated. She just played me all along because once we obtained her two-year card I found out she had committed adultery (I have numerous photos to prove it, she had the gall to have her lover sign our divorce papers as witness).

When the marriage dissolved my attorney advised me to just seek a divorce since proving the marriage fraud would have involved intercontinental litigation he almost wanted to fly my attorney from overseas here. Afterwareds I sent a packet of papers into Immigration hoping that if some day she filed, they would have a dossier on her.

Well now I find out that she somehow has obtained permanent residence obviously through VAWA which is in my mind just defrauding Immigration to top it all.

Here's my question, I am very happily married now, my wife has a 2-yr conditional residence, we’ll have to file for removal of conditions next year. I don't care what happens to this “ex”, I just don't want this to interfere with my wife's future removal of conditions in 2010. If this won’t interfere I will just leave it alone, but if it may I will certainly act, I have plenty of material to denounce all the fraudulent deeds on her part, it just troubles me deeply every time I think about it that I should perhaps be doing something and I'm just passively letting time go by.

Your advice will be appreciated

I would like to know from people with past experience on VAWA matters if the spouse allegedly at fault is contacted for verification that the claims are not fraudulent

thanks

hi Jorge, go to the following fourum, you will find answers to your question:

i360 VAWA denial - consequences

Thanks but I could not get an answer to my specific question, I would hope the USCIS would contact the other spouse to get a version

I would like to know from people with past experience on VAWA matters if the spouse allegedly at fault is contacted for verification that the claims are not fraudulent

thanks

"Enough people here already", jesus christ. You're not going to gain any supporters on an IMMIGRATION FORUM by saying something like this, Merrillizer. What the hell are you thinking?

But seriously though, guys, leave this guy alone. I lurked myspace and found this picture of him and his ex-wife:

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?...mageID=48416871

It's quite obvious from this picture (and his posts) that he is simply under-developed person with some sort of disorder, and if anything we should pity him. America should accept more immigrants and deport weak, whiny, mentally challenged people like the topic starter here.

In his youtube videos, too, he makes noises/sounds which no normal person would ever do. He is sick and this thread is just making fun of a sick person.

I've been following this without participating but frankly, how can anyone remain silent to postings like the one above where someone purportedly can make a clinical assessment of anyone's mental condition from a picture or a silly video? I admire Merrilizer's ability to take this all in stride and actually take the time to cogently reply to the most absurd and groundless accusations.

Some posters base their ironclad conclusions (see the "it's quite obvious from this pictures") on isolated strands of information taken out of context -in a superlative manner at that ; then proceed to not only conclude but condemn and dictate sentence. Worse yet, the panel of resident psychologists analyze facts in ridiculously capricious ways to suit their pre-conceived notions and their a-priori conclusions.

I see it so clearly, this man fell in love with a woman who eventually evinced her motives beyond a shadow of a doubt offering a contract that will allow her to illegally obtain her green card, just to take a single bit of evidence.

Some have criticized this man for being stupid, naive, for having fallen too rapidly in love; my experience is that you know who you married six months into the marriage, even if the courtship has lasted years; I've seen marriages fail after long courtships and others fantastically succeed where the partners did not meet until the day of the wedding.

Being cheated doesn't equate to being stupid, as long as there is a trusting partner and one that intends to swindle, fraud will continue to occur as it has for as long as man has inhabited this planet. Witness the Madoff scheme, many of those that lost billions to this man were no mental midgets. Trust is a paramount condition in a relationship, one has to start at 100%, that unfortunately is what also paves the way for the cheater to do his/her deed.

Nothing makes my blood boil more than the blind who don't want to see; those that question whether this woman actually signed the contract or did it under duress; I once saw this man offer evidence of his wife cheating on him with pictures only to have her father contest the veracity of the photos saying they were "contrived"; I knew the woman I knew of her infidelity, the photos were not montages.

Then there is the group of the icy cool birds who advise on "getting over it" or criticize the "sour grapes" and pontificate on "letting it go". This woman for as long as she remains in this country is a liability to her sponsor if we are to begin with the practical matters. But we are made of blood and flesh we have emotions, this woman ruined this man's life; she ridiculed him, she cheated on him with other men; songs, poems, movies and even biblical stories are dedicated to the emotions of getting even if at least to fight off the inner pain of the mockery made of oneself. Do not deny him the right, you don't feel the pain, it's easy to preach from your pulpit.

Only the man, the woman and their bedroom know their true story, I've seen marriage counselors make ridiculous conclusions on hours of information. Because the full story is never known; you always run the risk of concluding on not enough information so don't jump to conclusions and condemn and dictate sentence.

This man -whom I do not know at all - (I can now anticipate the cynics saying we have an arrangement) proves with his intelligent writing style that he is no idiot, I happen to believe in his story, because I lived a parallel story and likewise I had the disbelievers, the cynics, the skeptics and those that learn their psychology from the back of a cereal box.

I hope he overcomes, and I hope she leaves his life and the country permanently, someone deserving will eventually come to his life, I truly hope so.

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thanks for the intelligent answer, frankly it's tiring to have to respond to the pseudo-psychologists who want to see a case for their opinion in any difficult situation. Your statement makes sense, but I dispute the good-faith position; if she was not planning to be with me after the approval of the conditional 2-yr visa then she should not have attended that interview, she left the house prior to it, came back full of promises and one hour after we left the USCIS office she was back to her behavior in fact she was extremely angry she had only been given "2 years", I expected a celebration but she turned against me, so she was with the man before and after the interview, I sincerely differ with the good faith viewpoint, I'm sure the USCIS would too.

OK, I am moving on now. Really, sour grapes are a b1tch

Thank God, now you can go back to diagnosing your own psychological shortcomings; you must have learned psychology from the back of a cereal box.

And your point in posting this is what, exactly?

You missed the last question on my original post:

Any advice as to how I can find out what she has done?

No I didn't. I just don't understand why would you post that. But hey, we all have our ways of dealing with personal stuff I guess.

Why not letting go and moving on with your life i wonder?

I would let go, I told her once upon the divorce, the US is pretty large for both of us. so as long as you don't interfere with my life do whatever you want; I'm asking the question I asked for very practical reasons not because I want pity or to unfairly denounce anyone; so I'm not doing this to as you say, "deal with my personal stuff"; this woman I know is capable of very nefarious deeds, she proved it when she brought her lover to the divorce proceedings and he signed some documents as witness, always claiming it was a "friend" that is of course until I found the pictures.

And your point in posting this is what, exactly?

You missed the last question on my original post:

Any advice as to how I can find out what she has done?

Did you submit Adjustment of Status? If you did, she got a conditional green card and an advance parole then she was able to travel back and forth. She was not illegal.

Documents for the kids continued arriving, it means that the case wasn't cancelled at all.

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Yes we did, September 2005, she was approved for a conditional green card but when I called Immigration since she no longer lived in the house they advise me to withhold it if I ever received it; I don't think she ever did; she did have a parole before, she was not illegal until September 2007 and I know she stayed here well past that time, from what I knew beyond that point she was illegal.

The documents for the kids arrived well past the time I communicated with Immigration but since they were never acted upon they "died" a natural death, I wrote to Immigration several times until they stopped.

It is apparent that she played you like a two dollar condom......

you can say that again...this story is repeated many times in this website; until the day they invent mind-reading fraud will continue from every walk of life not only in relationships but business, politics, etc.

In 2004 I married this foreign woman who was on a visitor's visa. She started committing adultery on me a few months into the marriage, she even left the house some time prior to the two-year conditional visa interview but returned full of contrition and promises just before it. 14 days after the approval her boyfriend and her called the police on me alleging abuse, I was cleared of all charges but while I was out of the house they came and took "her" car which I had fully paid for; she even left the country for a while while her boyfriend continued to drive the car while the divorce proceedings unfolded; I wrote to the USCIS and withdrew the petition for her children however the papers to continue to come; later on when we had to get in touch to discuss the signature of the divorce papers I persuaded her to have the car returned to me (she was still out of the country) so one of her friends gave me the car back, as I board the vehicle I flip the visor down and out falls a CD full of pictures of her and her boyfriend, one with a calendar behind them showing a month while she was still with me. I used this to get a very rapid divorce since she knew she had to keep her mouth shut now. She returned to the US some eight months later and surely using her still valid visa, I know she stayed in this country past the two-year period and was working (illegally I suppose) through acquaintances in her country I learned that she said she was working heavily because she knew once she "stepped out of the US" she wouldn't be back, the thing is she left last November but SHE IS BACK !!!!.... I'm beginning to suspect she must have used WAWA but wouldn't they have contacted me for references? I sent to the USCIS the photos I found in the car, so I figured she would have a lot of explaining to do if she once wanted to adjust her status. How do I find out what she has done, I hear she has "married an American" but I know that these "news" are sent to disorient me.

Any advice as to how I can find out what she has done?