ididntdoit

Can anyone tell me what people are talking about going to a ACH Session?

Its a general #######-for-tat silver..Not a place for details about your case.

Mostly thats all. Kinda like a phone call to uscis in person. You can

push your case but might not get any results..Been there more than

once, our home is in GZ..Check out IKEA next door.

I gave up waiting in the building

Oh..Boss man from Ukraine is it??

When did anything Chinese become your concern

Strange one you are

Can anyone tell me what some people are talking about -going to a ACH Session. Is it something I need to look into?

this is a consulate issue and not really general discussion regarding a K-1... these are best posted in the consulate or the regional forum when

moving to the regional forum

take a break, i'll ask any question I feel I need help with.

do whatever you want but all I ask is to pay attention and ask it in the right forum... otherwise I will move it...

Its a chinese forum. Sorry but you or your better half dont look to be from china.

Are you looking to move questions within the forum you fit in, or just china?

Where else would the man ask? Lets see, wifes from China, there is a forum for

China within the website..Seems he would first ask in the Chinese Forum, not the

general population..ACH in China (IS) a general discussion regarding any K visa.

Thats all you will find out, general info..Seems you need to delete or (otherwise)

move the China forum..Your way out of line..

Hi VJ'ers,

i am U.S. citizen .

... USCIS send to me Form AR-11 .i think it is for my husband but my husband is not in the usa yet.. he is still in morocco and i do not understand why i have to do this AR-11 .

The AR-11 is a change of address form! Did either of you request it? If you did just to let you know, it can be filled out online.

yes i know that but my husband is not here in the usa yet so why should i be doing this right know dose he have to be here to fill it out or just doing because i have moved.. i real do do not understand

Did you change your address in anyway? The form is for you the petitioner.

If you didnt request a change in address you need to call uscis to find out why

they sent you this form. You realy do need to call them to know the reason why.

It could be a problem on their end.

I think you have your own answer though........

"or just doing because i have moved".

You had to have called them or something

and told them your moving or have moved..

Call them to fix this.................................

hi, i got two pages AP notice in the mail, i wonder if it is just the approval letter or if its the once i will use to travel,... cause at the bottom, theres a space for immigration stamp.,, in the email that i received from cris, it says that the approval notice was sent to me in the mail,.. what AP card look like? and i got a new email sayin EAD approval notice sent, what EAD card looks like? is it just a letter or the notice looks like? thank you im just curious...

Marien............

Not clear what stage your in.

Is this your first response from them?

Did you just file aos? All I can tell

you is we just got our first response today.

2 reciept letters. One a saying they got our 1010.00.

The other about waiting for a ead appointment notice.

If you just got your (1st) letter since you filed then

thats what you have..If not sorry am no help.

Please explain where you are in aos.

yeap, he can google and respond better than anyone...

Yep. All one needs is google. It can replace

first hand knowledge on any subject.

A disclamer should be put at the start

or the end as to where the "know all"

came from. One should also be secure

about ones self and their reasons for

why they take to "googleing" rather

than years of first hand know-it-all

knowledge in the country they know

so much about. Yes that does mean

you would need to live there many years.

No need to shoot then, you will have seen

and lived it yourself. As for the asian mess

as quoted no one needs anything but a long

look in the mirror at yourself to answer that

question.

Seems to be some kinda mindset or maybe

a fantasy. Ethier way you will get exactly

what your looking for, it seems ok for many

though. Shot was a little off. Thought it was

on target. What the heck theres always google.

Since I dont realy know. Google will tell me.

All politics is local - Tip O'Neill

I know loads of Latinos who are runing from the Dimocrats.

I know some who are, but most here in Southern California who are not.

Nothing to be proud of. Cali's going to hell in a handbasket.

Cali's been gone. Demoncrats and gangbangers among a few

sunk that place already. It's an experiment gone bad. Coming

soon to your town, but it's most likely already there. But thats

lib-er-als for ya. Live and let live. Kinda a anything goes view.

Is it any wonder why so many normal people are running away

from filth that they bring. By the way a conservative says you

can do it. A demoncrat lib-er-al says sorry but you can't.

Thier perfect form of socailism is doomed to fail. There is no

such thing. It has never worked and never will.

I am sure everyone had their times of doubt as they went through the VISA process, people have doubt for regular weddings in one country. Lately it seems all the stories I am seeing are bad ones about people asking divorce questions and others returning to home countries etc.

I want to hear happy endings, people that went through process and now 3 or 4 or 5 years later are still happy and think it was best decision of their lifes.

I am sure in my decision but positive stories would be nice to see, instead of all the negative ones popping up on board.

It's true no one seems to post the good times, only the bad. Something you can see

quickly is many people not knowing all they should know about themselves, the man

or woman they find on the www. Sure the immagration process is hell but what one

didnt think about or in many cases just didnt even seem to care to know bites them

in the butt when it's paperwork time.

I'm sure many here will call me a not-knowing-what-am-saying-jerk. Either way it's

the truth. Thats where all the sad stories come from. All anyone has to do is take the

time to know her or him as well as yourself. Say what you will it is not hard to do.

You both just need to take the time to do so. If you don't then I guess might be problems.

My wife and I took the time to know each other in everyway as far as we could in emails

and messengers. Our story is nothing like most people. I meet her from a joke add I put

on matchdoctor, it was free then. Real bored one night so I made an add asking how to

cook a pot roast. Some chinese lady about two weeks later answered it. She said I can't

cook but I would like to be your guide in China if you wanted to come here. She didnt stop

writting even though I wouldnt reply. Maybe about two months later decided to give this

woman my email and yahoo messinger.

I still didnt even care to be honest. I made a mistake and gave her my phone number also.

Every night since that day she would sit on yahoo asking "little white guy" are you here?

Sweety were are you?? I call you but your son say you not home? Why you no talk me,

dont understand. Seven days a week at midnight here she would sit and wait trying to

talk to me and I would not. This woman would not give up. My son after many im's and

phone calls with him started to make me think I should talk with her. What got me was

this 17 year old boy saying "dad whats wrong with you". She is the one for you. I don't

know why but I know she loves you and I love her.

So many times I did all I could to push this woman away. Over a year I did my best

to do so. She would not give up. One day she told me after I gave in she was coming

to the US with her company and had already got her plane ticket to were I live. I still

dont know how a never married chinese woman in her 40's did it but she did. She

wouldnt say anything but what time to pick her up at RDU and "I want to be married

to you soon as I get there". Thats the day I found out maybe some things are meant

to be. Never belived in that until 10pm at rdu. My dad went with me to pick her up.

Truth is we both knew she wouldnt be there, but we went anyway. We sat there

looking at the stairs wondering how much longer we would wait when this chinese

lady walked down them. Dad looked up and said "look,look, thats her". I said no

its not it's about time to go home.

Guess what it was her. I have no way to put in words the emotions that came

over me or her. I have never felt this before, I could see she lost it, so did I.

You would think a first face to face would be strange. Kinda like a get to know

all over again. It was nothing like that. We knew all there was to know. She took

over our little family the next morning. It was like she has always been here.

She was at that moment my wife, my best friend, and the most important part

of our family. The next day we went to our local county courthouse with her

family and we were married.

I could write a book on our life since then, our family in china who took me

in only because I love their little girl and they ask for nothing more. Our family

here who look to her. It's been over four years since I meet her. We are still in

immagration hell but it don't matter. If there is a heaven I am living it. She has

always been my life. It just took a little while to find her. Even though I won't

looking. Long sure, not said right sure. Have no other way to say it.

I'm not sure what a good price is I needed to get to China with only a couple days planning due to illness i went on flychina.com and just picked whatever they threw up there which seemed crazy now that I flew it Columbus - New York - Los Angeles - Beijing - Guiyang and return Guiyang - Beijing - New York - Columbus for 1398 all included.

It does seem like flychina has the best price for us eastcoasters.

Six trips since 2005, never paid over 1K. Your right about taxes

and fees with them, it's included. That under 1K was to GZ also

not HK. We made 3 trips to HK from NC paid the same but still

had the mess on the border to deal with then the train trip.

It was nice but once was enough.

What are the airline prices looking like?

What are the best routes?

Have the Visa things changed from last year?

Which month is the best to go?

Where are you going and any other details?

I am thinking to travel in July/August for a month. Last April I got a RT Delta ticket from Atlanta to Shanghai for $700. Then I flew China Eastern to my fiancee's city for $100. I'll have to renew my Visa this year.

Flychina has a mid july to mid august for $994, 2 stops tax and fees included.

Not seen anything cheaper yet.

Hello everyone. I thought I would share my experience thus far in Guangzhou. Today I attended ACH at the embassy. It was a good experience and helpful communicating with other petitioners. I am staying at the Tianyu Garden apartments about a minute away from the embassy and it is owned by Mr Yang and his wife. He is extremely helpful and has helped us through this final process in Guangzhou looking over all our forms, ect. I would suggest anyone to go to the ACH because they document that visit and you can get good answers to any questions you may have. My fiancees interview is the 13th, take care all and good luck~

I would suggest anyone to go to the ACH because they document that visit and you can get good answers to any questions you may have.

Again as said posted to your question on this subject before.

No you will not get answers to your case. Document sure but

again will not furthur your case. It is a FAQ only. If you want

advice from grown men who have done and seen it all as far

as china goes. Visit candleforlove. Not a good idea for new

china members here to assume a FAQ is real when its not.

Its a visit and no more than that. IKEA near GZ consulate

would be the better pick of the two. New readers here to this

mess dont need to be lead more astray than they already are.

That includes gifts then a 180 change of subject to an opinion.

Some have much more to learn about Chinese culture then they know.

Its a nice island if one wants to visit. They do need to know, no it

will not help your case. Sorry but newbies do need facts.

pretty harsh, but reasonably popular.

try the baisha for a similar taste.

cigarettes suck, i love it when my food taste like cigarretes in a chinese restaraunt...

you'd never make it in china, buddy. most of teh men smoke there, in the home, restaraunt, office, bus, taxi, factory, school, just about everywhere. it's one of the nicest thigns about living in china, right after the hot women.

Now where did I put my pack of baisha

omg people... 2006 post! 2006 post! 2006 post!

Not good with this off-topic slang yet.

Do you refer to a poster or an event?

pretty harsh, but reasonably popular.

try the baisha for a similar taste.

cigarettes suck, i love it when my food taste like cigarretes in a chinese restaraunt...

I guess we need to ask just what was your reason for asking?

Since the subject took a 180 it seems your comment means

a real chinese resturant, one thats in China?

Other states here (USA) not sure about but there are no

so called chinese resturants in this state allows you to

light up your smoke. So if your asking for a gift to a smoker

be they chinese, american, chinese americans, american

chinese living in the states or the PRC. What changed?

We gave you the correct advice. Another topic would

be needed for opinions since it is no longer what smokes

to give for a gift.

Pro-immigration activists say a national boycott and marches planned for May 1 will flood America's streets with millions of Latinos to demand amnesty for illegal immigrants and shake the ground under Congress as it debates reform.

[...]

"There will be 2 to 3 million people hitting the streets in Los Angeles alone. We're going to close down Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, Tucson, Phoenix, Fresno," said Jorge Rodriguez, a union official who helped organize earlier rallies credited with rattling Congress as it weighs the issue.

http://reuters.myway.com/article/20060428/...GRATION-DC.html

LOL Come on already. illgelly i must say some people do belong here if they are illegal the ones that pay taxes and are hard honset workers BUT SOME DO NOT!!! ( I have mexican family from my step dad side and if i knew where they lived i would deport them lol, they make alot of money dont pay taxes have nice homesm hummer and on medicade and foodstamps come on!!!, So people like them should not be here, anyone who works and does not pay taxes should be out of here, B/c hard working people like me have to pay more thanks to them, and PEople like me who there is alot here, who do the right think waiting, paying alot of money to do the visa and the right way, while many people dont care making it harder for people who realy care are love eachother get their visas

Hey I think the misspell and miss-use of two words illgelly and illegal made some turn your post

in to a joke. I congratulate you for what you meant to say. Your doing this the hard way like I guess

most are here. Live in the raleigh area also and dont see what you said as a joke.

LOL Come on already. illgelly i must say some people do belong here if they are illegal the ones that pay taxes and are hard honset workers BUT SOME DO NOT!!! ( I have mexican family from my step dad side and if i knew where they lived

I tried that brand in china.

Never ordered on line but

that don't sound to pricey.

Sorry not much help.

What I smoke here is almost 40 bucks

a carton so sounds good.

you will need to bring every in the packet 4, packet contains medical forms and other biographic forms. go here to have a look

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/fo...and_packets.htm

Thanks for all your help, sorry I didnt build a timeline. I did and when it posted it was all in the wrong slots. Our interview is May 13. Good luck to you!

Am sure you know but very important, sometimes more

than paperwork is how much she knows everything about

you. It could be things you never thought you would need.

To put it short it could be your parents name, your kids

names (if any) right down to whats your favorite food.

My wifes interview was one part paper and three parts

her and me. This guy even asked her what my address

is here in the states. She knew it, the guy was shocked.

Don't know how others go but thats how hers went.

Didn't even open the suitcase of pics and papers.

Only wanted to know about how well she knew me.

I wish American companies such as banks, check cashing companies, grocery stores etc. would retaliate by picking one day to not speak Spanish or make any effort to communicate in a language other than English.

Then we would see just who needs who more!

There is a very large basic needs chain in my area

where the associates (you might be surprised what

race) refuse to wait on, look at or get anywhere

around anyone south of the border. They do not

hide it from management in any way. Or from

anyone else.

So far have not seen any management at all

say or do anything to these associates. Half

the customer base in this store are from south

of the border.

Just saw the poster mention chinese. I'm right

with you on this topic so is my chinese wife.

In fact her description of south of the border

is (Human Cockroaches). Did I mention she

is Chinese!

I wish American companies such as banks, check cashing companies, grocery stores etc. would retaliate by picking one day to not speak Spanish or make any effort to communicate in a language other than English.

Then we would see just who needs who more!

There is a very large basic needs chain in my area

where the associates (you might be surprised what

race) refuse to wait on, look at or get anywhere

around anyone south of the border. They do not

hide it from management in any way. Or from

anyone else.

So far have not seen any management at all

say or do anything to these associates. Half

the customer base in this store are from south

of the border.

Most "folks" more or less sat this one out. No real leader

was around. This time one with the abillity to speak (but

thats all). Took the spotlight in a never ending elect me

add, thought he won?

The changelings sure did get what they want this time.

Lets see how you deal with the change heading your way.

Dont listen to the daily news. here whats said and go to

your dear www.gov and see whats put into law. Then

think back to what you heard on our great tv.

Its public record but most people etiher dont know

about that or just find it to hard to do. It's simple.

We can be told what to think or do. Or we can find

for ourself whats said and whats realy done.

It's public record that dont change.

Take the effort, hear whats said then find out

what was realy done.

A Sober Look at Obama's First 100 Days

By Jason Kelly

April 30, 2009

It's good to be back! Let's get right to it, one day earlier than promised.

Jane wrote: "You were pretty tough on the Bush administration, so I guess you're going to gush with everybody else about the Obama administration's first 100 days?"

No. The reason I was tough on the Bush administration had nothing to do with my own party affiliation. Every time I write anything related to politics, people try to pigeonhole me as either a Democrat or a Republican. I look at facts. If the facts support the party in power, people assume I'm of that party's persuasion. If not, they assume I'm an attack dog from the other side. Without buttons or hats or songs of inspiration, how about looking at some facts from President Obama's first 100 days?

First of all, the impression created in popular media that President Obama is universally loved is false. Almost 48% of voters chose somebody else last November. That's why you should don a sour look every time somebody refers to the U.S. as having a "popular president" or a president supported by the people. President Obama achieved no landslide victory. He received a little more than half the votes.

Even his current approval rating of 69% is unremarkable. It's about average at this stage of presidencies since 1953, nestled between Nixon and Carter at their 100-day marks.

People talk about how well the Obama administration is handling the financial crisis. Really? Then I guess those people liked the Bush administration, because nothing has changed.

The plan to use taxpayer dollars to prop up failed financial institutions took root last fall under the Bush administration, and is basically what's still going on. Team Obama just followed the Team Bush play book. In several cases, Team Obama is the same as Team Bush, after all. Ben Bernanke never budged from his top spot at the Federal Reserve, and Timothy Geithner was simply moved from his position at the top of the New York Fed to the top of the Treasury. His being asleep at the wheel at NY Fed is partly why banks there got away with so many shenanigans, and now he's running the Treasury. Bright new day, indeed.

True, Team Obama added a stimulus package to the prop-up strategy kicked off by Team Bush, but what newly elected president would not have done so? Almost every economist was calling for one at the end of last year, with the main disagreement being over the size and focus of such a stimulus. Reactions to the Obama stimulus have been mixed, so it's hard to chalk up economic activity as a bright victory for the current administration.

Supporters of the president happily reported on his recent trip to Europe, in which the tone was much friendlier than visits made by President Bush. Fine, but what did it accomplish? Nothing, I'm afraid. Germany politely turned down President Obama's request that they boost their own stimulus package. That was smart, by the way, because they realize that the heavy lifting of American taxpayers will also lift Germany out of the slump, so no wonder they were all smiles but no action.

How about that war effort? Same non-result. President Obama had hoped that Europe would get behind his war in Afghanistan, but Europe looks to have had enough of America's wars for now. Sure, they sent a few token troops to train local police, but that's not the joint effort the president had in mind.

Back at home, the debtor nation is a lot deeper in debt than it was 100 days ago. Spending beyond belief is not party specific. Every president seems to think he'll be judged by how much he added to the country's credit card. If so, Obama is headed to a prominent place in history books on this score. His first 100 days added $2.5 trillion to federal spending, a pace of $25 billion per day.

That's why the recent "Fiscal Responsibility Summit" was such a laugh. When the president convened his cabinet last week and told them to find $100 million in savings over the next 90 days, people halfway decent with numbers wondered if perhaps he'd misspoken, substituting an "m" for the "b" that should have preceded the "illion."

No, he meant just million and was apparently serious, despite the guffaws echoing through hallways. Telling the government to find $100 million in savings after it put the national debt on track to hit $20 trillion in ten years is a funny kind of fiscal responsibility. It's less than a single day's interest on the $787 billion stimulus package.

If that's how money is managed at the top of the nation, no wonder ordinary people can't figure out to pay off their credit cards each month.

Of course, the first 100 days are nothing magical. The Obama administration is still working on the challenges facing the country. The clock didn't run out. From most reports, though, you'd think the nation had been saved since January. It hasn't been. I've seen both A and F grades assigned to Team Obama so far. I don't think it deserves either, yet, and I think most such grades are assigned based on the grader's opinion of the idea of President Obama, not the results of his initiatives.

Those who loved him 100 days ago still love him; those who didn't still don't.

Just don't expect any info about your case.

I was told this was May 8th at 2pm. Has anyone heard of this? I guess its for US citizens to ask questions to the VOs. If anyone has any information about this can you direct me to a link? Thanks, Good luck to all. I think bringing a wife to America is helping the over populatioin of China haha.

Interesting video about how some votes in the recent election was affected by the colour of the candidates skin. Reasons for this it seems that a lack of education isn't the only variable in a person voting for McCain rather than Obama because Obama wasn't white. I met some people like that the last time I was over in South Carolina, they felt Obama was a better candidate for the job than McCain but they were going to vote for McCain anyway because Obama was black. Personally I can never understand that logic.

And 96% of the black vote went to Obama. So what's up with that?

Nothing, Gore got 92% of the Black vote in 2000, Kerry got 95% of the Black vote in 2004. Watch the video, it gives an interesting analysis about the election and racism.

I would have (not yet a citizen) voted for obama because I don't like white people...its nothing personal you understand. Just don't like the way they look.

Racism in it's purest form. Have to give you a big thums up, at least you told the truth.

No dis-respect but never use a white crayon unless your background is black.

Shooter I would be banned for putting everyone to sleep.

Have no way in short form to explain this story. Nothing

is normal (to use that word) about how we meet or

anything else. You remember when you were young

older folks would say things you knew didn't happen,

or didn't belive at the time?

Sounds funny i'm sure but my Grandma told me one day

maybe you will be one of the lucky ones and find your

meant to be. Yeh ok your crazy. 45 years latter for some

not meant to be reason I (we) meet. After doing my best

to aviod this woman, emails, phone calls, everynight on

yahoo she would be there 12am. Sweety, Little White guy

are you there? I will wait for you ok?

She never stopped no matter what I did. So talked with her.

She told me many things one of them was this.

In her chinglish way she told me what her Mom said and

that she belived in it, do you belive in meant to be?

Next thing I knew I was head over heals. Maybe one month

after this woman told me she was coming here to marry.

And she did!! Still not sure how she did it being a never

married woman middleaged same as me. I picked her

butt up at the airport and it was like we have always known

each other. Her and here family had brought me gifts.

She even brought things for our home, table runner for

the kicthen table, nick knacks, even some clothes for

me to wear. She brought the love of not only her but

her family also. Anyway two days latter all my family

went with us to the county courthouse and we got married.

The worst day of both of our lives was when she had to

go home. At the airport there was a (young hug couple).

Wife called them, we both just sat there and did the same.

Couldn't stop the hugs and tears. Never known what lost

realy meant until that day. I mean completly lost.

Am middle aged, seen a lot, been through two lifetimes

but that feeling I have never had to live in that way.

Sorry did turn out to long, can't help it. Not even started

yet in truth. Its close to 4 years now, two since my sweet

woman has been living here. Many trips to China being with

my family there. I guess Grandma was right. As dumb as

most would say it is. For us thats the only way we know

to call it. Have no other way to say.

a good chinese woman is well worth any bride price, no matter what words are used to arrange.

the best words to get one with are huayinchaoyu.

the best huayinchaoyu is the kind you really mean.

it's a lucky man that find he can tell his wife huayinchaoyu and it's the truth.

tell us the story.

Dont talk that way shooter, have read many of your posts.

Easy to see your a good man. You have lived there so you

know the word (vary) has more meanings than anyother

country. I didnt find my wife the way 99% of us do.

Thats a very long story.

Sure her family matters but you have a good woman beside.

Thats what realy matters right?

There is also the gift of a good man for a never married daughter.

you have a special family in China. yours is beter than mine, and I thought I had it good.

Dont talk that way shooter, have read many of your posts.

Easy to see your a good man. You have lived there so you

know the word (vary) has more meanings than anyother

country. I didnt find my wife the way 99% of us do.

Thats a very long story.

Sure her family matters but you have a good woman beside.

Thats what realy matters right?

There is also the gift of a good man for a never married daughter.

you have a special family in China. yours is beter than mine, and I thought I had it good.

China is a big country, so no single rule covers all circumstances.

I lived in China for 4 years and married a girl from a city that has few foreign residents. Gaining the trust of the family was a lengthy process, but worth every moment of effort. After Li moved in with me her sister had a fit and wouldn't talk with her for months, but she was the "first point of contact", so getting on well with her was important. I bribed my way in with gifts for her child. Things from America that can't be bought in China.

The sister opened the door to the rest of the family, with minor gifts greasing the skids all the way. Zippo lighters and imported alcohol for the men, American chocolate and cosmetics for the women, picture books of American scenery, anything they couldn't get in China, or that wasn't made in China. Leather purses from Mexico were a big hit with the MIL.

The bride money issue was tied to the financial security of the MIL. Most Chinese families don't have retirement plans, health insurance, medicaid/medicare, social security, etc. Retirement begins at 58 or so, and Chinese husbands are not always prone to spend a lot of money on their "yellow faced wife", when the 25 year old mistress has needs. It sounds cruel, but that's the way it is for successful Chinese businessmen in Henan province.

We made a payment of about 20,000 yuan to the MIL, with the understanding that her oldest daughter would be moving to America and making better money than she could in China, so would be in a better position to take care of the MIL. My wife was already making 60K Rmb a year as a contract translator, so things could only go up, right? Since finding a job here my wife is putting $500 (3200Rmb) a month into an account her mother and sister can access in China.

Wife now has her house in the country, luxury car, bank account, credit card, easy job, d cups, and everything else a Chinese girl could want. MIL has a steady cash flow, which is all she really wanted. I got a sincere wife who also happens to be smoking hot. Everybody is happy.

You bet it varies. My MIL is deceased and FIL has a hefty lifetime pension and full medical as a retired Major General. The value of gifts we receive tends to be higher than the ones we give and no money changed hands between FIL and I before the marriage. We did give a one-time cash gift of respect ($500) about three years later but it was only very reluctantly accepted as Baba needs no money.

There is also the gift of a good man for a never married daughter. My FIL was retired airforce

from ww2. He had no big pension and live in a very old apartment in Xian. Him and Mom lived

a very simple life. They got by but thats all. One visit to GZ wife surprises me saying we are

going to Bejing this trip.

When we left Bejing she didnt say we were not going home. Big surprise when we landed

in Xian. Her brother and nephew picked us up so my thoughts were ok, i have no gifts.

Wife smiles and says its ok. We walked up the stairs to what I thought was Lei's home.

The door opened and there was Mom, was worried to death, had no idea what to

do. It took about 2 minutes looking at everyones smiling faces, mom taking my

arm, sit, sit she said and started feeding me watermelon to know I was home.

The home looked like a 5 star resturant, never seen so much food. We sit at the

table and cant even use my own chopsticks everyone was feeding me!!

So yes it does vary. I was adopted by this family before I ever meet them.

They would not let me spend a dime even though I tried many, many times.

Could not understand hardly a word said but didn't need to. I knew I was home.

Just the opposite of giving gifts in our case, I was given the greatest gift of all.