malika215

thank you.

I totally agree for them to be held accountable.. I won't go ballistic on the phone but I will confront people in higher places!!!!!!!!!!

They may have the control and the power, but does that make it right? I'm a woman of principals. Aren't they supposed to be principaled as well? Or are they above the law? Sorry, they are PUBLIC SERVANTS and they are not some elite gods. They either behave appropriately as OUR public servants, whose salaries we are paying, or they should be brought to task for their unprofessional, humiliating behavior. As an American, I KNOW what is right and wrong in this country, and this system is archaic and littered with crooniness or corruption or both. Believe me, if there were another privately operated USCIS, this government one would be out of business and these high-faluting servants would be posting their resumes all over the USA just like many Americans are today. In my opinion, they would be non-hirable.

How did you get a second interview? What can I do? He was issued a 221-g. I have already called my congressman and they say they will e-mail the Consulate. What else can I do to get this looked at again? We had so much evidence and they didn't care and he was so nervous.

From what I can tell - I don't think they read anyone's evidence. So what's the point? My husband had the nasty brown haired Chief. This is typiclal federal bureaucracy. I'm very unimpressed with their tactics.

My fiance was denied a K-1 visa also in Casablanca, he felt the woman consular had her decision made up from the

beginning. Some of her questions were unbelievable, what is your fiancee's father salary, what date did your

fiancee quit her last job, why did she quit that job, what was her position. Now this might be a normal question

if I changed jobs routinely but my last job was 12yrs ago, and its not something that we would discuss in day to day

discussions. The woman did not look at any of our evidence except took emails, she didn't look at photos , chat

sessions, phone logs. Our relationship started 18months ago, I have been there once and will be returning again

next month. I know our engagement is a red flag in Morocco being that there is a 11yr age difference, they are highly

suspect that its not real. In actuality the visa is not important for us except the fact that I can't move there

for another 3 yrs. I have my youngest in high school still. If I must travel back and forth for 3 yrs I will, but

doesn't seem fair that we should have to surrender to this because of someone else's judgement.

I called immigration here in Vermont and was told there must be a exact reason for denial and I will see this when

I get the notice, it could take 30days. My fiance's english is not fluent, but enough to understand a normal conversation.

He said the woman spoke very fast, and when asked to please repeat she spoke just as fast.

Any ideas for helping us through this? I'm wishing now I would have just waited and married him this year, and then

filed for a marriage visa, but wanted my family to be a part of it. WE HAVE A REAL RELATIONSHIP, WE LOVE EACH OTHER!!!

Being married doesn't make any difference. They denied us as well. I've taken an new attitude about them - as for me I can go

there now to live and I am. In the midst of packing.

But if it's the consulate you're referring to, they can tell who we all are by our timelines anyway - just looking at a few key dates is enough for them to know who is who...

So what is the consulate going to do to you - fire you? Listen, they are PUBLIC SERVANTS -just like the president - a public servant. They are no better than we are and their _____ smells the same as yours and mine! If an individual is not doing fraudulent things what's the problem? What do they want us to do - lie? You know what I think - I think I'm older than anyone else on this Board and I don't give a tinkers toot about these people and their stupid regime of questions. My husband is my husband is my husband no matter what they want to call him. We have a marriage license and we can live in Morocco happily ever after and I can forget I ever heard of these people.

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Actually, many do read vj - especially regional boards and the k1/cr1/and aos boards. There have been occasional posts from COs over the years. It is very easy for them to know who is interviewing and such. How many people say the date and time of their interview, along with the name of their man. Not too difficult to figure out.

Well at this point I'm so despondent I really don't care what this consulate does anymore. They have shown their...... I'll say it again, I can live anywhere I want to live as long as I have a good air conditioner and heater. I was told very specifically by USCIS that if they prejudice me because of my attitude I can file a complaint with USCIS.

I agree with you on the issue of there being some positive in the first denial.

For me, it gave me the opportunity to go to Morocco many more times than I would have gone if we were approved the first time. It gave me the opportunity to get to know my mother and father in law more than I would have been able to if approved first time.

I was able to see of Morocco and experience different places and things there, etc.

And, of course it gave us more time together prior to him coming here.

So, I agree it wasn't all negative.

Now, realistically, I don't know that I always saw the positive while we were going thru the denials, but it's always good to try to see and feel the positive aspects.

I would absolutely have your husband accompany you. If you don't have any "red flags" all will probably go smooth. They refused our visa on the basis the marriage was a fraud. I've kicked up so much dust in that consulate right now, I don't think they will so easily refuse visas. I've requested a "top to bottom investigation" of this consulate through my two senators here in Georgia and I got confirmation this week that one senator has already ordered an investigation. Now I am having to pack to go to Morocco to be with my husband - put all my house in storage - because of one horrible officer he never looked at his evidence in brought and is now stating he "didn't bring adequate evidence" Go figure.

hi Vjs

my interview is feb 14 & my husband will be here to accompany me to the us consulate. is it a good idea that he enter with me to the interview? he may be admitted or i have to go alone? any advices please

Hello, All:

I am totally ready to lose it!. My husband's interview is on Feb 3rd at 9 am. It will be 4 am here. I know that usually they finish all interviews by 12 pm, about 7am my time. My job is really bad about personal calls. I told my boss that if my husband does not call before I start work that he may call in the morning. I further explained that call cannot go into voicemail. He said ok, but he should call before work. I already have butterflies in my stomach. I feel like I am going to have an anxiety attack. I do not have any mental health issues, but I am just not myself. I have read good and bad things about the consulate in Morocco. My husband has been doing his best to prepare, but I worry about his english. These days I have to explain to him sometings over and over again. I have not been sleeping well. My children have blind faith that he will be here soon. How do I rest? Please God help him.

I wish you the very very best. Please help us with this nailbitter! Is all well? We're all dying to hear from you

DISGUSTING! There is something bad bad bad wrong in the Moroccan consulate. You need to tell your wife to call her Senator and Congressman, write them and call them. I have a bad problem too. My husband was denied a visa because they said it was for papers only. They are HORRIBLE HORRIBLE [ep[;etjere om tjat cpmsi;ate/ Everupme meeds tp re[prt tje, = I am writing the president, hillary clinton, anyone I can find for what they did to my husband and me. No respect for applicants. Who do they think they are? God? I have a mission now. I want all of them fired. They are bad people. The USA needs to know what they are doing there!

i will never forget what this immigra&tion did to me and my wife , same time they act like stuped i mean what im saying

listen every body my history with immigration every bady take sites and watch

titel : ( BAD STORY FOR REAL LOVE)

i meet my wife in 2008 and we was togther talking in net every days and we still , and in 2009 she come to me and we get marred we know that we have big hospitalty in Morocco and i make bigggg widding because i marry what i love my with stay with me 1 month and aftre she go back and we go back to net agine hmm

and 2010 aftre she get her tax she call immigration and she talk to one lady i still remember her voic or maby if i meet her and she talk i will know her (hhahaha) her action is latina (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

aftre she say to my wife that she need to full papers fiance visa i was hearing all this and i type tp my wife that she told her we are marry and she say yeh but not in usa with k1 prosecc it will be quik

my wife belive her of course because we miss etch other and she is one who work in immigration , she ask her to buy money order and send 450$ my wife do all this

after week the same lady talk to her and tell her that she will call her and intrvew her in phone and she did .... aftre that she send her email with 3 papers 2 is B G information one for me and one for my wife and one papers is F129

she ask my wife to full all this and sing and to send her copie of marrige certfcat in english and my wife tax and same other papers

all this in ( fiberary 2010 from this time no more information and big problem that she give her oe adriss in nevada :::::!!!!)

this last time that we will hear about immigration my wife keep calling and calling and callling untill she get tired all is machine answer in november she .call and one guy answer her she feel goood that she find same one will listeb to her expline to her what going on , this guy tell her to wait aftre 10 munte he tell her

guy: _hello mdm are you still in phone

my wife : yeh sir

guy: ok i was looking about your name and i call office

my wife : ok what sir

guy : oh we are sorry the lady that she need to pros ypur papers she quit and we dont know where she put your papers

VERY BIG PROBLEM (i keep screaming we need our money back ) i know 450$ is not easy money we dont find it in flower

is coming our 2 widding day we are not toghter i try to go to consulat to ask tourst visa they say no

this next yaers we palne to have lawyer and i hop that i will have chance to meet my wife befort i die

thanks for all sorry for my english

anything send me email i love u all

well we didn't get this message, we just were refused our visa in morocco and it was sent back to the USCIS and we were told that our marriage was a fraud. We have proof of being together since 2006 and they didn't even want to see it! Two years we've waited for THIS!!!! Now I think we're going to try an I 130. Of course we are heartbroken!

Morocco and Egypt do have plenty of couples with huge age differences, but it is the men who are almost always older than the women. It is very uncommon in those countries for the woman to be significantly older than the man, if we're talking about Moroccan-Moroccan couples or Egyptian-Egyptian couples.

It's only "common" for the woman to be significantly older when the woman is Western.

yes, i should have specified that. However, there are still many, many couples with the older woman situation when they are western. Obviously the consulate is not going to see moroccan-moroccan couples with the huge age span (woman older) but they process hundreds of applications with the western woman being much older. That was my point.

Apples and houses. Has not bearing on the subject at hand, where the age difference can be a HUGE red flag in the visa process.

Good grief! I cannot tell you the many many packages I've sent to and from Morocco without anything like this happening. The only problem was the time - it took forever. I just sent my husband a leather jacket - I sure hope he isn't hit with some ridiculous customs fee. I have to say, the stories I've just read sure sound like the typical Moroccan bureauracry. What we did with the documents is I emailed him what I had and then he went to a shop and had the items

run off. He had documents he had to send our attorney in the USA and he sent them chronopost - always use that service when shipping from Morocco. It's the best andfastest and will only take days, not weeks. What I do about sending money - I have a bank account in my name, but it's really his. I sent him a debit card and i put money in his account here and he goes to an ATM and gets the money. It costs me about 20 cents to get money to him. You can't use a bank as cheap, you have to go to a credit union - they charge less money for the transaction. I know how to do about everything there except bring my husband to the USA!

PS Tell your hubby to take tylenol (no more than 1200 mg) around the clock. They don't call it tylenol there, but the pharmacist will know what to give him. Be sure to tell him not to take more than the bottle says - very important. You are welcome to private message me if I can be of any help to you

Good grief! I cannot tell you the many many packages I've sent to and from Morocco without anything like this happening. The only problem was the time - it took forever. I just sent my husband a leather jacket - I sure hope he isn't hit with some ridiculous customs fee. I have to say, the stories I've just read sure sound like the typical Moroccan bureauracry. What we did with the documents is I emailed him what I had and then he went to a shop and had the items

run off. He had documents he had to send our attorney in the USA and he sent them chronopost - always use that service when shipping from Morocco. It's the best andfastest and will only take days, not weeks. What I do about sending money - I have a bank account in my name, but it's really his. I sent him a debit card and i put money in his account here and he goes to an ATM and gets the money. It costs me about 20 cents to get money to him. You can't use a bank as cheap, you have to go to a credit union - they charge less money for the transaction. I know how to do about everything there except bring my husband to the USA!

Oh no......! .......I have never had any problems like that. When I sent our file it was sent DHL, but anything else that I've sent has been through the post office and we've never had any problems. I sent a big package at Christmas with several gifts and a brand new phone for him, and he still only had to pay $30 (USD)......I don't understand why they're doing that, and making him go all the way back to Casablanca, plus pay the fees??? That's insane..........................I would also say that he needs to see a doctor if he is having that bad of a reaction, maybe before he does anything else. I'm so sorry all of this is happening........gosh it's awful.......like you really need all this stress right before his interview....

Hi Michelle, I have a LOT of experience shipping from inside and outside Morroco/USA. I use to sell antiques from Morocco and ship

them all over the world. I will tell you, there's a HUGE improvement in postal handling since before 2006 when, indeed, they put their

hands on everything and swiped it. But Around 2007 they raised postage rates as well as the quality of the service. In shipping from

the USA here is my advice: Use the priority boxes - it's about $57 or so for their "large" flat rate box which isn't that large, but if you

sit on it, stomp it and play with the contents, you will be amazed how much you can fit inside. I forget now how much you can insure

a package for from here, but it isn't very much. Because it is insured, they tend to keep their hands off of it. Even if you ship it

priority, it will take minimum of five weeks to get there and usually six weeks. I just sent my hubby a leather jacket and he's not even

going to start looking for it for another week or two. I sent $1,000 items out of Morocco and they were always delivered. The stealing

is minimal now. Time is the big problem. Also, make sure you put your receiver's phone number on it so the post can call them when

it comes in. I don't know if they are in a big or small city but if they are in Casa, Rabat, Fez, the packages get there about a week

before the middle of the country. I hope this helps some. Michelle

I have yet to get a letter or package successfully mailed from usa to morocco. I went to fedex today to see if they could deliver a small light box and they said it would be over $300. They say the reason my stuff does not get there is because of theft in postal offices in Morocco. that is terrible. anyone have any secrets to getting mail from usa to morocco?

he has not had a problem sending stuff from morocco here....go figure

Thank you SO much for your words of encouragement. I cannot believe you allowed them to scream at you this way.

I would have gone straight through the ceiling. I'm a very very nice woman, but if someone pulls this nonsense on

me, I am a tiger. In fact, my husband calls me a tiger!!! The judge in Morocco refused to approve a marriage for us,

and I confronted him in the court house. My husband said he was shocked when I got up and told the judge I wanted

to talk to him. When I was through, obviously he gave us permission. I called the USCIS today and complained and

had a very rude guy at first and then asked for his supervisor who was lovely and then went on to tell me her own mom

married a man 20 years her junior. I am kicking up a lot of dust here. How did they ever have the nerve to talk to you,

a citizen of the USA, in such a manner? That is so horrible. I'm sitting here stunned. You look like a very happy

couple and I wish you every happiness. Best to you!

I appreciate your response regarding age difference. Morocco is filled with huge age difference marriages. I've met the people myself. It's not uncommon at all there.

The problem is they are trained, yes, however, they don't allow any room for the unconventional couple who think outside the box and more concerned with their own

happiness together than adhering to cultural norms. My husband and I are that couple. He and I have said to each other many times "no one will be able to understand this" so we accept that. We've got documentation since 2006 of knowing each other and STILL he was denied - although she never asked to see the documents. I'm

raising heck with every official in this country. I have EVERY right to be with my husband and he has every right to be with me if all the refusal is based on is age

difference. His parents love me and are fine with this. We hope to appeal, if not, I'll go there and we'll try again. But I'm one incredibly angry woman right now.

Great explanation of red flags and how they apply in this case but none of the above matters for petition approval. It's all about the interview. Did you mean "large differences in FINANCES"?

To the OP, yes, sometimes the Consular staff in Cairo contacts parents about whether they approve of a marriage. Count on them asking about your plans for children and whether the parents approve of your marriage and be prepared to tell the truth about any and all questions that might be asked. The reverse age difference issue coupled with the religious differences will likely raise these questions. If you were no longer of child bearing age, that would make the age difference an even bigger issue. The context of our discussion is not whether your relationship is genuine but rather, what a Consular officer will want to be satisfied about before determining whether THEY think your relationship is genuine. In doing so, they are trained and expected to consider the totality of circumstances INCLUDING the local cultural norms.

Age DOES put up a red flag. My husband was denied a visa in Morocco on Jan 3. She never once asked for any proof of relationship. He was able to answer all questions correctly. She doesn't mention and cannot mention age, but there is NOTHING else against us but age!!!! It so happens she told him our marriage was not real and he was doing it for papers. She treated him like a piece of ####### on the floor. I've gone everywhere complaining about this consulate - which, by the way, has a horrible reputation.

He had a nice file of proof put together. This is horrible, some two-bit overpaid government "clerk" with an overstated job title as "officer" gets to ruin our lives. She sent the file back to the USCIS. I called them today. The first man I got was rude. I asked for his supervisor who was lovely and said she understood - that her own mother married someone 20 years her junior. It sounds like we're going to have to re-file and I'm going to have to pack up and go there.

Egyptian Embassy is never involved maybe you need to stop reading from wherever you read that