Rosalinda

I was worried .. I thought someone hijacked the saturday thread...

HAPPY HALLOWEEN MENA

have a safe and fun day and night

I'm sorry sofiyya did not mean to say Hay lol please explain what is haya and now the fiqh guidelines

Haya is a concept that places limits on behavior so that one doesn't do things that cause embarrassment, division, or damage to one's honor. It's a basic character trait in the practice of devout Musims who seek to avoid displeasing Allah.

The Prophet (saw) said: When lewdness is a part of anything, it becomes defective; and when haya is a part of anything it becomes beautiful. [Tirmidhi]

Fiqh is the law formulated through the study of the Quran & Sunnah (sharia), and other sources considered to be part of Islamic precedence. Fiqh can vary, because it also takes into consideration the norms and needs of the society being addressed. The prominent fiqh schools agree more than they disagree on issues, but, they acknowledge that their rulings are from the fallible minds of humans, trying their best to understand the intent of God.

Those are very simple explanations. If you wish to know more, I am happy to address your questions further. Do not apologize for whatyou do not know, for there is no one among us who knows all.

Thank You Sofiyya for your explanation you answered me perfectly.

I'm sorry sofiyya did not mean to say Hay lol please explain what is haya and now the fiqh guidelines

LOL Nawal that's funny scary but funny....

I think i just wanted to gague how strict ..maybe a peck on the lips would be out in public between husband and wife..or would a peck on the cheek be more acceptable

I understand the whole 1,2,3 min. kisses with or without slobber lol but I just don't see the problem with a peck .. but from what I can tell it is the comfort zone..........

Any Quran verses on this???

My husband and I walk close and hold hands in public. We also sometimes kiss on the lips (nothing French ). My MIL encouraged us to hold hands when we are with her. Living in the ME for extended periods of time, I can say that there are differing practices in different socieites across borders and within borders.

One time, we drew the attention of the police in Rabat when we kissed in public, but they finally laughed and walked away when we explained that we were newlyweds. The Prophet is known to have been appropriately affectionate to his wives in front of others, and was known as a demonstrative man. Arabs are not as dour as we are often depictd to be, and Islam is not shy about sexuality. Affection may be shown with haya in mind.

Forgive my ignorance.... Hay???? please explain

Thank you Melly

OK lets see....

I can understand how muslims can be conservative where it won't be an all in all out display of affection... but i don't understand how greeting your wife or husband with a kiss or a hug after a long days work in public is a problem....

By the Quran is this an issue or is it typically a personal preference ??

Anything you offer me as an answer or discussion is appreciated ...open my mind

Why does it feel like I just started a fight lol

Hello MENA

Everyone has always been helpful and knowledgeable I need advice and stories... I don't want to sway you so I won't offer any information.

If you have Quran verses feel free to input and men please feel free to comment.

Your input is greatly appreciated. Thanks

Kat,

I am very sorry you have been put through so much. Nothing more difficult in this world than losing your child. I could not even stand to think of it... You are a remarkable lady but your trying to hold on to nothing... this man, while i don't know him gives you nothing to come back for nothing you want... HE is not the son you lost. and HE will never ever in this lifetime compare to what your son would have wanted for you...You keep investing in trash.. look at the trash in the kitchen Kat and tell me if you would invest your heart your sons wish for you into this trash...

Let this man go he is nothing compared to you and your son and there is nothing of your son there. Your son would have wanted more deserved more respect love and admiration

While i think he can adjust on his own...would serving him while he's away on one of his trips be a bad idea? Also, maybe submitting past documented history of abuse to immigration...How would that pan out???

This is not about hurting him it is about saving yourself and your children...Nothing else is more important than that!!!

Keep strong Kat there are many people just a few key strokes away if you need to talk

Praying God will touch your life and your husbands heart..

That's Awesome news Congratulations

Yasser I am sorry it has been difficult for you to find work...

My husband has been here since beginning of March and has been working for almost 2mts..

I took my 2 week vacation and in this time we found a few places that sell arabic food and through one of those contacts he was referred to the arabic resteraunt he now works at.. It was not easy even with this little push but my husband was persistent... It's not ideal mind you but it keeps him busy and meeting different people while at the same time doesn't completely shock him while learning english.(a little bit of both worlds)

I hope this helps in some small way. Hoping things look up for you soon. Stay strong

Happy Saturday everyone!!

Olivia Congratulations!!! I'ts emotional to see you complete such a great accomplishment. I'm sure it was difficult but well worth it...

Have an amazing time in Egypt and an amazing life with your husband...

congratulations!!!!

I'm sorry it took me so long to tell you..

Wishing everyone a Blessed and Happy Mothers Day

Im sorry to hear this news..

Be Blessed and comforted in Gods hands..

CONGRATULATIONS JACKIE!!!! ITS ABOUT TIME...

Mrs. jJ keep your head up still thinking of you. {{{{jackie}}}}

Mrs. Lisa.. what can i say? I'm super happy and excited you have an air ticket already are you meeting him along the way or is he taking the ride alone? keep me and moh updated.

Mr. moh .. i know you don't know me really but i keep checking on my old friends and the ones that were starting to stir as my husband and i were finishing.. i hope you dont mind me adding my 2 cents...

DEEP BREATHS!!!! every thing will be fine. Good luck and congratulations on the interview...

Mrs. amanda

im sorry to hear your going through this rough patch but keep in mind there was a good day and there will be again.

as much as i hated to hear this.. it is true... your one day closer just keep your mind and heart on the good and the bad will pass. This is not an easy journey for sure.. but it does end...

My prayers and my thoughts my heart are with you all my journey buddies love you guys..

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

CONGRATULATIONS LISA!!!!!!! {{{{{{{{{{{{{LISA}}}}}}}}}}

SEE YOU AFTER WORK...

HELLO EVERYONE!!!! HE'S A BEAUTIFUL BABY STAASHI

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

MAKE SURE YOU GET ALOT OF REST STAASHI AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR SELF

AND HANDSOME ENZO

coming by to say HI to everyone.. I miss you so much...

Did you have a big bonfire with the old couch? this ones kinda nice BIG...

{{{{{jackie}}}}}

{{{{{lisa}}}}}}

{{{{amanda}}}}

handshake for mohamed

{{{{everyone i missed}}}}

Wishing everyone TONS and TONS of luck for speedier journeys... keep your heads up.. the day does come when you will be reunited with your love.

IF SOMEONE CAN TELL ME HOW TO POST PICTURES OR VIDEOS I WILL TRY TO COME BY BRING MUSIC OR PRESENTS...

CONGRATULATIONS MOH

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LISA CONGRATULATIONS !! IM SO HAPPY HEAR YOU ARE MOVING ON... IT DOES SEEM EVERYONE WILL BE OFF THIS STUPID COUCH ONCE JACKIES OFF BURN IT!!! I DONT WANT SEE IT EVER AGAIN

THANKS GOD AND SPEEDY INTERVIEWS AND ON TO YOU LOVED ONES

listening to everyones stories and struggles helped me so much in this journey. I could never thank you enough.

5:30 came and that starts my 2and1/2 week vacation Thank God

My husband is on his way to Amman as I write this and God willing and with everyones prayers for a smooth flight and layover.. he will be beside me tomorrow at this time .

anxiously and patiently waiting

many thanks

Thank you!! and

Thanks to God

I am trying to keep it together I can't believe after so long. I am at a cross between crying and jumping for joy and thinkg of what needs to be done.

COMING

My husband and I have been seperated for 2yrs and 6mts... and on AP for over 1yr of this time.

Feb. 8, 2009-Sunday he recieves a response to and email he sent on his own which directed him to send a new medical, a new police certificate, and his passport

Spent all week either running between the offices in Amman or waiting for these documents to complete and finally send the requested items on Feb. 15, 2009.

Feb. 19, 2009 VISA IN HAND!!!!!!

I am grateful to everyone for your support and your ear.

Jackie thank you for your warm welcome and your guidance when I discovered this site.

Lisa thank you for letting me vent and forgive me for forgetting that you may have had enough on your plate and did not need me adding to it.

To everyone that responded in kindness THANK YOU!!

Now my skills at posting pictures is not good... So somebody, everybody

LETS GET SOME FOOD AND DRINKS AND MUSIC AND I WANT DANCING WORTHY OF MY AP

MY HUSBAND IS COMING!!!!!

MY HUSBAND IS COMING!!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Wow !!

Let me say thank you... I needed to read that and I don't mean it sarcastically...

I told my manager the other day if I'm not freaking out about the time apart and trying to get him here I'm freaking out about the time that he WILL be here. I have tried to analyze everything and I'm glad that you say it's not possible. I tell my husband I worry in everything and he says not to....

Right now and for the better part of 16 years it has been just me and my son... I'm concerned... I know it will be hard but just how hard I did not understand until I read your post along with that add a 20 yr old son and his concern for his mother and WOW!!.... I pray that all goes well when my husband gets here... And i pray that God will Bless you and your husband in this marriage in the years to come. It was good to see you again...