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After a two month medical test delay for TB, and four weeks of. YOUR CASE HAS BEEN REFERRED TO THE CONSULAR FOR FURTHER REVIEW. My fiancee has received a text from delbros that the have the visa ready for delivery.

What a relief, We were really worried. There are so many nightmere stories. My fiancee had her interview on July 11th at that time we went ahead and purchase a ticket for the 13th of August.Only to find out that our case had needed further review. ooooooooooooops I just had to cancel the ticket yesterday and then we get the very good news. Missed it by maybe two or three days. oh well its only 75 dollars to re book in on Northwest Airlines. WHO CARE, WE HAVE THE VISA.

It took ten months total from start to finish. But that all will be an ancient memory now. Finally we can relax.

I wish you all well, Goodluck with your endeavor

Take care

Brad & Eva

you know what? This mail order bride stuff is a bunch of bunk. Maybe ten years ago this could happen. but with the internet now there is no reason to pay to meet someone anymore. You can do it on many traditional type dating sites. But the mith continues.

I have been single for 15 years and all of my friends and me also have used dating sites, such as Match .com and others. What about e Harmony.com that site charges a huge fee to match you up with others. but because they just match you up with others within the US they are not concidered a marriage broker. C'mon folks. WHATS THE DIFFERENCE???????

You want to know why men form the USA search other places to find a nice girl to marry. For starteres maybe he dont want t a girl with a ring in her nose. maybe he dont want a girl whom is self centered and so leberated like many american girls. maybe he dont want girls with tattoooos all over thier body. maybe he dont want to listen to rap music. Do I need to say more?

fililpina's are traditional girls, much like the girls I used to know. Lets face it guys. We are very fortunate to have a filipina. Make no mistake about it.

I doubt very much you will find too many people if lucky to have a filipina. would abuse her in anyway. Yes I watch that ####### on TV it makes a good news story. but the fact of the matter is. its a very very small percentage. Most end up in happy marriages. Thats a fact Jack

Filipinas being traditional? in what way? Define traditional? Joining dating sites to me is not being traditional. Online dating is not being traditional. Also, there are tons of Filipinas who are pierced, tattooed, and who listens to RAP. I know this because I was born and raised in Manila. I am not a traditional Filipina nor my friends back in Manila. Some of my friend back there are more liberated than me. When I migrated with my family here in the US about 11 years ago, I fitted right in. Dude, where have you been? Maybe you are talking about Filipinas who live in the sticks and are so naive.

What's wrong being liberated? Not all women in the US has pierced or tattooed or likes to listen to Rap music. There are still plenty of American women or FOB immigrants from other countries that are traditional.

BTW, I am a tattooed Filipino American and, I used to have 11 ear piercings. I also listens to rap but not my preferred type of music. I love Linkin Park and Green Day!

yes and you are one of them. but have a nice day

My mama said if I'd be good she'd send me to the store.

She said if I'd be good and watch the telephone.

That she would send me out to get a chocolate Ice Cream Cone.

And so I did, The Things she said, Then she maid some gingerbread

And I went out, just me alone

And bought my chocolate ice cream cone.

On the way home I stubbed my toe upon a little stone.

no need to tell you that I dropped my ice cream cone

a puppy came along and took a great big lick

and then I hit that mean ole dog with just a little stick

And he bit me

Where I sit down

and he chased me all over town

And now am lost

Can't find my home

And all because of a chocolate ice cream cone

LOL

That's awesome, Mae! Thanks for sharing that. I'm sure there are many many success stories from couples who used an international dating service.

Ditto to what Mae said, her story is our story too. Jen and I met on FH, just shy of a mail-order-site. Her rich American turned out to be a teacher, and my submissive filipino does whatever the heck she wants! She frequently jokes that marrying for love was a serious mistake!

you know what? This mail order bride stuff is a bunch of bunk. Maybe ten years ago this could happen. but with the internet now there is no reason to pay to meet someone anymore. You can do it on many traditional type dating sites. But the mith continues.

I have been single for 15 years and all of my friends and me also have used dating sites, such as Match .com and others. What about e Harmony.com that site charges a huge fee to match you up with others. but because they just match you up with others within the US they are not concidered a marriage broker. C'mon folks. WHATS THE DIFFERENCE???????

You want to know why men form the USA search other places to find a nice girl to marry. For starteres maybe he dont want t a girl with a ring in her nose. maybe he dont want a girl whom is self centered and so leberated like many american girls. maybe he dont want girls with tattoooos all over thier body. maybe he dont want to listen to rap music. Do I need to say more?

fililpina's are traditional girls, much like the girls I used to know. Lets face it guys. We are very fortunate to have a filipina. Make no mistake about it.

I doubt very much you will find too many people if lucky to have a filipina. would abuse her in anyway. Yes I watch that ####### on TV it makes a good news story. but the fact of the matter is. its a very very small percentage. Most end up in happy marriages. Thats a fact Jack

It is very common these days to meet someone on the internet. There is nothing wrong with it in my opinion. much better than meeting in a bar and going out the next night. It this kind of relationship you can really get to know someone when you talk to them everyday on messenger or some other method.

Talking to someone on messenger everyday or even phone calls does NOT allow you to really know the person, totally impossible, the ONLY way to get to really know someone is by spending time in person with them, and living with them.

Well I guess your opinion is shared by many. I also believe this. I have been to the Philippines two times and spent over six weeks with my fiance. We have traveled to Hong Kong, Thialand and many other places. I have met her parents and the rest of her family and many of her fiends. I love the philippines. Unfortunately for me and am sure many others. We have to work for a living and are not able to spend a lot of time in the Philippines. Not to metion the expence. But I can speak from my own experience only. I have learned more about my fiance in the 15 months talking on yahoo everynight for two hours. than I did just in the six weeks we were together. Sure meeting in person was the best time I ever had, but I look forward every night to speaking with her.

Being seperated from the person you love is not good anyway you look at it. Its especially bad when your future is in the hands of someone whom knows nothing about you. Nothing about this is easy.

This is a bit dated (2002) but still important info:

Elsa Batica, founder and president of Batica & Associates, speaks to audience Wednesday about "Mail Order Brides: Fact or Fantasy" at the Atwood Little Theater. Batica, who was speaking as part of the Women on Wednesday series, has been featured in the Star Tribune and WCCO Channel 4 on the same subject.

Just some highlights:

Every year, approximately 2,000 to 3,000 U.S. men find wives through the catalog services. There is no known exact number of brides entering the US. There are substantial profits for the companies involved.

Most often, according to Batica, the brides find themselves in abusive relationships, which are often fraudulent. Those brides who do arrive in the U.S. are often ignorant of the laws surrounding immigration and believe the threats made by their husbands that they will be "deported if they don't obey." The rate of marriage fraud between a U.S. citizen and a foreigner is at least 8 percent.

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According to Batica, the idea of mail order brides is not new to the U.S. The practice still exists in some cultures, and are in fact customary. Mail order brides are not limited to the U.S. alone.

Western Europe, Canada and Australia have also seen the IMO activity.

"It is part of North American history, stemming from arranged marriages," Batica said.

In the process of applying for a mail order bride, "the husband holds all the cards." The women are told virtually nothing about the male customer, only what he provides. The ads often advertise "seeking one special woman." The rest is to satisfy that need.

After a man responds to the ad, correspondence takes place until he chooses to meet her. Some IMO's set up packaged tours to the foreign countries to meet a wide selection of women.

The men who purchase these women are financially secure, but seek a woman from a poor country because it makes him look more attractive to her. Once she arrives, she must marry him within 90 days and apply for citizenship or she will be deported.

"The women are purchased like cars — if it doesn't work out, they want their money back," said Batica.

The Department of Justice is actively investigating and prosecuting the international cases where they apply. However, each year, more than one million people seek assistance regarding battering and domestic violence injuries.

So why do these women do it?

Many of these women live in emerging or turbulent countries where jobs and education for women and girls are little. The movies make American men look like the perfect game. The opportunity to leave the country looks twice as tempting, to be able to leave and pursue their dreams.

"The Hollywood screen portrays America as the land of gold and honey," Batica said.

Often there is a push from home to support the family. By being married she relieves the strain at home. The woman is often searching for a better life.

"The perception of American men, by the women, is that they make good husbands," Batica said. "That the men are faithful to their wives.

That the American men are like 'movie stars.' The men perceive the women (as having) traditional values. The American woman is not seen as traditional. These brides are homemakers. That all they want is to be a wife."

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Approximately 4,000 to 6,000 marriages in the U.S. involve international services. Of the women who were contacted by the INS, there were 1,400 Asian women. At least 70 percent were from the Philippines and another 16 percent form Indonesia, with the rest coming from Thailand, Japan, China and Korea. Not all mail order brides are Asian. Others come from the former Soviet Union. The average ages for the women were 16 to 20, followed by 21 to 25.

In Minnesota alone last year, 85 percent of the immigrants were fiancée visas. However, not all fiancée visas are mail order brides, some are relationships that evolved out of international students or otherwise.

The men who order brides are generally white, with at least two years of college education.

"Most of the men have control in mind and this is where the conflict occurs," Batica said.

http://media.www.universitychronicle.com/m...ed-206562.shtml

Dont know about all that. but I do know the conception from most American is. If you are marrying an asian woman? They always say. OH DID YOU GET YOU ONE OF THOSE MAIL ORDER BRIDES? It is very common these days to meet someone on the internet. There is nothing wrong with it in my opinion. much better than meeting in a bar and going out the next night. It this kind of relationship you can really get to know someone when you talk to them everyday on messenger or some other method. In my oppinion these kind of relationship have a much better chance of succeeding. Anyways, thats my two cents worth.

I have posted before about what I should do. I from the sugestion I had my Senator do an inquiry on my case and here was there reply to the Senator:

The applicant was interviewed by a consular officer on December 20, 2007. Due to certain issues which were unresolved during the visa interview, we had to undertake further administrative processing on the case.

Consular officers need to be reasonably satisfied that all identity and relationship issues have been addressed before a final determination is made regarding visa issuance.

As soon as the review is completed, we will contact the applicant to resume processing the visa application

So as of now we both have sent letters and used there webmail to the consular office in general. I still never get reply from the embassy. I keep asking want if anything do they want us to do but still no reply. I also call the embassy and the the operators tell me the same thing "case under review".

So I want to send letters to the following people William W. Lesh, Immigrant Visa Deputy Chief and Dr. Lawrence Mire, Immigrant Visa Chief.

Has anyone heard of a case being under review for so long?

Is this a good or bad idea to send letters to the Immigrant Visa Chief and Immigrant Visa Deputy Chief?

Thank you to anyone who could help.

Gawd, I am sorry I dont have any suggestions for you. This sounds like a horrible situation. I cant believe they would do this to you. We have been under review for only three weeks and the waiting is hard enough, I could not imagine having to wait 7 months. Do you have an attorney? If you dont, I would suggest you get one, although from what I have been reading even and attorney can not get any answers either. I think if I was in your situation I would prefer they just deny the petition so I could appeal it and get them to the table to explain why. Good luck with your endeavor. I hope you can get your visa or at least some answers soon.

It may just be the result of the document verification. We went through the same situation. I paid for the document verification fee 3 weeks prior to my interview but unfortunately, the result was not in the embassy during my interview. I git white slip for DV. A week after my interview, Grace at USEM told me that they already have the result of my DV. They told my fiance to call after 2 weeks because a consular will have to review my case. My fiance call after 5 days (not after 2 weeks). He was then told that my visa is ready for release to Delbros.

I advice that you call USEM from time to time. You may get an answer. Best wishes! Believe me, I know the feeling of waiting for the unknown. God bless you!

Thanks so much for the reply, I enjoy reading the experiences and its very helpful to know that some people are in the same boat as you and have ending up with a good result. Yes I will keep calling. I guess once a week is enough.

Thanks again

I'm in the same boat as you. My case is under AP since the day after the interview on 12 Mar 08. I haven't seen my girl since 15 Apr 07...but we talk on the phone 3 times a day to keep our strong relationship going. Good luck to you.

Gawd, Thats is very sad. Hang in there my friend and goodluck. I hope it doesnt take that long for us. This is already getting very hard.

You can't just go there, lay your evidence on the CO's desk and say, "Here's all the proof you need." The beneficiary has the burden of demonstrating that the document evidence is consistent with her explanation of the relationship and answering the CO in a way that helps him/her determine that. It's best to go into that interview with poise, sincerity, openness and honesty - to leave a good impression with the CO.

I second that. USCIS makes the final decision, they need to be impressed. You are at their mercy.

yes, I know we are at thier mercy. I think we have done everything to try to impress them. This is everything to us. Its very hard when your future is in the hands of someone else's opinion. It not right for another person to decide whether or not two people love each other and want to get married. That is a decission that only the two people that are getting married can decide. That is all am trying to say. This is America we dont let others decide for us whom we will or will not marry. At least thats the way it is the last I heard. I appeciate the replies. Thank you very much

Again, I understand your frustration, but this is an immigration matter so it does matter what the USCIS thinks about the relationship...whether it is a bonafide relationship or not. It would be a great world if nobody committed fraud, but that's not reality. Hang in there and hopefully your visa will be approved upon further review.

No, its not fair that another person/agency should cast judgement on us and determine our happiness, but thats the FACTS, and due to fraud (which is plentiful) they have to be suspicious.

Its really hard to say what an individual is thinking. I really dont beleive it is our age difference that is causing this reveiw, but it might be. it just hard to say because they really dont tell you anything. They just leave you wondering/waiting it really really stressful. But am sure everybody knows that. Nothing about this is easy.

You can't just go there, lay your evidence on the CO's desk and say, "Here's all the proof you need." The beneficiary has the burden of demonstrating that the document evidence is consistent with her explanation of the relationship and answering the CO in a way that helps him/her determine that. It's best to go into that interview with poise, sincerity, openness and honesty - to leave a good impression with the CO.

I second that. USCIS makes the final decision, they need to be impressed. You are at their mercy.

yes, I know we are at thier mercy. I think we have done everything to try to impress them. This is everything to us. Its very hard when your future is in the hands of someone else's opinion. It not right for another person to decide whether or not two people love each other and want to get married. That is a decission that only the two people that are getting married can decide. That is all am trying to say. This is America we dont let others decide for us whom we will or will not marry. At least thats the way it is the last I heard. I appeciate the replies. Thank you very much

I am 54 and my fiancee is 28. Does age difference matter?

What further review could they possibly want? They didn't ask us for any further documents.

Please Advise

The age difference could have raised a red flag. Someone else mentioned this in a previous post recently, I cant remember what the thread was. They're probably wondering what you could possibly have in common.

WELL AM NOT SURE WHAT WE THEY THINK WE HAVE IN COMMON AND REALLY IT SHOULDNT BE ANY OF THIER BUSINESS. BUT I THINK IT COULD BE THAT I ASK CHILDISH AND MY FIANCE ACTS MATURE. THANKS FOR THE REPLY

WELL SAID

I hope that you have a speedy approval.. I am not sure if you were around when Zandy and I was in AR for nearly 6 weeks.. but.. when you guys are finally together.. all of the AR ####### will be a distant memory. I wish you guys the best.. Mike and Zandy

Thanks for your reply, all replies are appreciated cuz as you know the embassy gives you little or no information at all. I think that is the hardest part is just not knowing anything and not being able to plan.

After a nine week delay due to an un nessarary medical test, my fiancee finally got her interview on July 11, 2008 at the US Embassy in Manila, Philippines. We have filed for a K1 fiance visa.

The pre screener did not take any of our mountain of evidence that we had gathered together. IE Pictures, reciepts, emails, yahoo messages, bank statements, employer statements, ect. They only wanted the tax returns and the affidavit of Support. They didnt even take the letter indicating that we were represented by an attorney.

Anyways,

Her interview lasted maybe 10 minutes. I was not there. The lady told her that she needed to review our papers. She was givin a pink slip and a white letter. The white letter did not indicate anything on it. It had none of the boxes checked for further documents needed ect. It only said wait till you hear from us. The interviewer told her to wait for her name to be called.

Her name was called and at this point she paid for the delbros visa delivery fee " We Think". They also kept her Philippine passport.

Anyways,

We had hoped that since the medical test had caused us a nine week delay that we would get the visa right away but instead we are experiencing and additional delay. I have called the 888 number and Keep getting the same girl. The last time I called she told me that OUR CASE HAS BEEN REFERRED TO THE CONSULAR FOR FURTHER REVIEW.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY INFO ABOUT THIS?

I am 54 and my fiancee is 28. Does age difference matter?

What further review could they possibly want? They didn't ask us for any further documents.

Please Advise

it might just be the document verification..they verify her CENOMAR at the NSO...but let me clarify it first...did u pay for document verification at metrobank before her interview? thats supposed to be 650 pesos...i think that must be it but i can be wrong also..good luck!

thank you, yes she paid the document verification fee and the delbros said they sent it already to the embassy back on april 21 her original interview was scheduled for april 29 but was delayed due to additional medical test. it was resceduled for july 11 but now I am wondering if the verification got lost in the shuffle because of the rescheduled interview

After a nine week delay due to an un nessarary medical test, my fiancee finally got her interview on July 11, 2008 at the US Embassy in Manila, Philippines. We have filed for a K1 fiance visa.

The pre screener did not take any of our mountain of evidence that we had gathered together. IE Pictures, reciepts, emails, yahoo messages, bank statements, employer statements, ect. They only wanted the tax returns and the affidavit of Support. They didnt even take the letter indicating that we were represented by an attorney.

Anyways,

Her interview lasted maybe 10 minutes. I was not there. The lady told her that she needed to review our papers. She was givin a pink slip and a white letter. The white letter did not indicate anything on it. It had none of the boxes checked for further documents needed ect. It only said wait till you hear from us. The interviewer told her to wait for her name to be called.

Her name was called and at this point she paid for the delbros visa delivery fee " We Think". They also kept her Philippine passport.

Anyways,

We had hoped that since the medical test had caused us a nine week delay that we would get the visa right away but instead we are experiencing and additional delay. I have called the 888 number and Keep getting the same girl. The last time I called she told me that OUR CASE HAS BEEN REFERRED TO THE CONSULAR FOR FURTHER REVIEW.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY INFO ABOUT THIS?

I am 54 and my fiancee is 28. Does age difference matter?

What further review could they possibly want? They didn't ask us for any further documents.

Please Advise

After a nine week delay due to an unessasary medical test my fiancee finally got her interview on july 11, 2008 at the US Embassy in Manila, Philippines. We have filed for a K1 fiance visa.

The pre screener did not take any of the mountain of evidence that we had gathered together. IE Pictures. reciept, emails. yahoo messages, bank statement. employer statesments. ect. The only thing they wanted was the tax returns. They didnt even take the letter showing that we are represented by an attorney.

Anyways,

Her interview lasted maybe 10 minutes, I was not there. The lady told her that she needed to review the papers. She was givin a pink slip and a white letter. The white letter did not indicate anything on it. it had none of the boxes checked for further documents needed ect. It only said wait till you hear from us. The interviewer told her to wait for her name to be called.

Her name was called and at this point she paid the delbros visa delivery fee. ( We Think )

anyways,

We had hoped that since the medical test had caused us a nine week delay that we would get the visa right away but instead we are experiencing an additional delay. I have called the 888 number and I keep getting the same girl. The last time I called she told me that OUR CASE HAS BEEN REFERRED TO THE CONSULAR FOR FURTHER REVIEW.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY INFO ABOUT THIS?

I am 54 and my fiancee is 28 does age difference matter?

What futher review could they possibly want? They didnt ask us for any further documents.

Please advise