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But to the OP I will add, your husbands mistakes and lies should not effect you from any future immigration or US visas in the future... But it will not be with this one.... However, I would be sure to notify the consulate at your clarifying interview of the situation and what has happened to you... sorry!

Thanks for all the reply here in the forum hopefully the embassy can help me how to solve the problem with my marriage and with my husband fault.. yes right now my husband is seeing another girl.. all i want now is t correct the mistakes he had done.. and hopefully the embassy can help me with the possible actions to do with him..

I'm just woundering how it got that far, I received a RFE requesting a different divorce document than i submitted, so it seems they checked pretty good before ever issuing the NOA 2

I really dont know if the USCIS have check on his marriages.. and also the US embass release a certification of legal capacity without checking the no of marriages... I found out everything when we were married already..

From what I understand from your post, it seems to me that the embassy will explain to you why YOU are ineligible for the visa. They aren't looking for explanations from your side.

I'm sorry. Your husband sounds like a real piece of work.

it is written in the letter is your personal explaination.. i hope the embassy wont banned me.. its my husband fault not mine..

If you know his ex-wife's name before their marriage, you can request a certified " Record of Divorce" ! This is not a copy of the divorce, only a record that a divorce was legally recorded for the specified couple. You should be able to pull up the state where he said the divorce occurred and search for the State's Vital Records Department or Public Health Department. You will need to have his complete name, his ex-wife's name before their marriage, and the date of divorce! Do not worry if you do not know the exact divorce date, the state will search using the names first, then date. I think the state searches in 3 year increments for the record, so a close date of the divorce is usually sufficent. All states are required to keep and maintain Vital records so you should find a record of divorce if he is truly divorced. The fee for the search is small, I paid $ 15.00 USD for a record of my first divorce. I am sorry you are going thru all this heartache, but I hope this will help you answer your question about his previous divorces!

Her stepmom did the inquiry at the county of sacramento and there were no divorce records were found.. I'm a victim here of his lies and deception.. he did not declare to the embassy that he has three marriages.On his certificate of legal capacity to marry he has onlyone marriage written on it. He had been dishonest to me eversince we met I've just found out the truth when were married already... hopefully the embassy can hear my side about the wrong information he provide when he was applying for the petition..

very sorry to hear about your situation. I wish I could give you good advice, but I am not qualified to do that. I know they won't approve a visa without certified copies of the divorce papers. Your husband should been able to get a certified copy from the court house....actually you could get a copy too. It's a public record and open to anyone . I am not sure about the area he lives, but in my area you can even search online and see the divorce cases. I would think you could get a marriage annulment if that is what you want to do.

God will be with you

I' ve already checked on that via online and we found out that there's no divorce records under their name.. and the prob is my husband doesn't tell the truth.. my husband told me that the first wife was the one who filed for the divorce but when I spoke to the first wife she told me that my husband the one who filed for it,,, no copies can be found and they dont wat to admit whats really true.. I really dont know if the divorce was finalize..

Thank god you aren't pregnant. Have hubby divorce you in the US and move on with your life. If you have the money to file for an annulment in PI it sounds like you should do so. If hubby will pay for it all the better.

There is NO chance USEM will approve you without proof of his being single or proof you have a bonafide marriage which according to you you don't have.

I already asked him to file for a divorce but he just say yes to me but no actions on it.. Its expensive to file for an annulment here in P.I and its gonna be my burden...

very sorry to hear about your situation. I wish I could give you good advice, but I am not qualified to do that. I know they won't approve a visa without certified copies of the divorce papers. Your husband should been able to get a certified copy from the court house....actually you could get a copy too. It's a public record and open to anyone . I am not sure about the area he lives, but in my area you can even search online and see the divorce cases. I would think you could get a marriage annulment if that is what you want to do.

God will be with you

I' ve already checked on that via online and we found out that there's no divorce records under their name.. and the prob is my husband doesn't tell the truth.. my husband told me that the first wife was the one who filed for the divorce but when I spoke to the first wife she told me that my husband the one who filed for it,,, no copies can be found and they dont wat to admit whats really true.. I really dont know if the divorce was finalize..

We were married May 2007 in civil and in chruch my husband filed a spouse visa petition last january 2008 however our application was pended last november 26, 2008 during my interview because my husband did not provide the right information about his marriages and divorce and documents were missing.. They gave me INA 221g to provide the divorce papers.. He has three marriages prior to me and IM the fourth wife.. After one year He cannot provide the divorce paper to his first wife.. Her stepmom already checked their records in California but there were no records found.. And last week I received a letter from the embassy that I should come on December 14, 2009 for personal explaination of ineligibility of visa classification.. I dont know how im going to explain everything for in the first place my husband should be the one to explain.. It'r really hard on my part for we dont have any communications at all.. and i found out that my husband is seeing somebody in the US and anywhere.. If they refused me am I not qualified anymore for other application and what about our marriage here in the Philippines what will happen? I need advice for this don't know whom shall i seek an advice.. thank you and godbless

you should have waited for your decree first before you had your interview...if you receive it try to call the embassy if you can submit it to them and continue the case but i dont think that will work coz you are not really free when you filed so thats a hit.

next time be very careful so you wont go through this over and over again...waste of time, money and it kills you both softly from waiting and waiting and worrying. thats it.

we have the same problem i had my interview last nov 26, 2008 {for CR1 visa) and the consul gave me 221 g requesting for the other divorce papers of my husband the prob is my husband misplaced his papers now my petition was on hold i feel so helpless and hopeless been married for two years and the separation so frusrating and depressing the uscis and nvc should determine and evaluate everything before they submit the petition in the embassy just right now i dunno what will happen to my marriage with this kind of ssituation,,

Para sakin pahirapan muna yung guy before moving on..hindi naman ganun kadali magmove on lalo na pag ganyang kaso and then start entertaining others...

di bale may karma yan...

hayz....it made me recall someone an american missionary sa philippines na andaming niloloko...

tsk..tsk..

its really unfair!!! well my interview last nov was pend because of the divorce papers my husband did not inform the embassy of his 3 marriages we were married and on his legal capacity to marry he only declres one marriages missing yung two divorce paper if there's other way para mg complain i dont know where to seek for an advice...

221g - Administrative Review and/or Administrative Processing

Administrative Review and/or Administrative Processing

After Your Visa Interview

Administrative Review: Is when your case is being looked at more closely for accuracy and to make sure all security name and fingerprint checks have cleared and your visa can be adjudicated.

Administrative Processing: Means once you have interviewed it is in security checks for any of these situations: you have had a name hit in one of the many data bases, background checks for fraud, or has missing and incomplete information that must be submitted and the rechecked. Processing is more in depth and than the review process and there is no time limit for this processing to complete. Administrative processing can last a few days or months and in some cases it has endured for years.

What is 221(g)?

The 221(g) is a section of the US Immigration and Nationality Act, which is used when the embassy or consulate are unable to take immediate action on a visa case. In rare cases, when additional processing is required, the suspense category used in that case is 221(g) while the additional processing takes place. For example, sometimes the applicant has failed to bring in the correct documentation, has incomplete information or in some cases the embassy wants a co sponsor before they will issue the visa or health reasons are all reasons a 221(g) is issued. In the Middle East/African/ Asian countries these applicants are scrutinized and screened more intensely and thus they have to wait out longer security or fraud investigations until all verifications for security or suspected fraud come back cleared.

Source: US Immigration and Nationality Act located on the web at: http://149.101.23.2/graphics/lawsregs/INA.htm

The 221(g) forms vary from consulate/embassy and you can get one or more forms after your interview. They vary in color as well as the way they are written whereas some are brief and some are detailed. In most cases they say to contact the consulate/embassy after 45 days. Be aware that the 45 days means business days (no weekends or holidays) and in some parts of the world the processing times are longer than 45 days. Always, try and check for others that are going through the same consulate and see what the average processing time is for the majority of the applicants.

Hello,

I'm so depressed right now, i just finished my interview yesterday....i dont know if i passed the interview or am i denied, the lady from releasing gave me the pink slip and handed me the form saying that i need to submit the marriage index and crba of my son since my son had an appointment date this coming nov. 26 and asked me to submit 2 pcs of visa coz my pics i submitted to them taken last year but why they gave me back my passpot?

Returning Petitions/Applications Under Section 221(g) of the INA

The following guide is specific to returned petitions/applications under Section 221(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act issued by the Department of State at the conclusion of a beneficiary interview. In no way is this guide legal advice, and should never be used in place of a good immigration attorney. The information has been compiled from personal experience and months of research.

First a Little Basic 101 on the 221(g):

The document issued by the Department of State under Section 221(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) is for the most part used for requesting additional information from the beneficiary such as missing documents, additional evidence, or advising them of not being able to issue their visa due to pending name/security checks i.e. Administrative Processing or Administrative Review. However, Section 221(g) is also used by the Department of State when returning petitions/applications to the USCIS for further review ultimately recommending revocation.

Why are Petitions/Applications Returned to the USCIS by an Embassy/Consulate Under Section 221(g)?

Petitions/applications are returned for a variety of case specific reasons. Returning a petition/application to the USCIS means that the embassy/consulate refuses to issue a visa to the beneficiary, but they do not have specific evidence to actually deny a visa application. So the next best thing to do is return the petition/application to the USCIS office where the petition was originally filed requesting further review and ultimately recommending revocation.

What Happens When a Petition/Application is Returned to the USCIS by an Embassy/Consulate?

* 221(g) is issued to beneficiary at conclusion of the interview stating the application and/or petition is being returned to the United States.

* Petition is returned to the United States by the interviewing consulate for "further review" in what is called a diplomatic pouch.

* Returned petition is received by the NVC. It is reviewed and entered into the fraud database by fraud management.

* Returned petition is sent to the local USCIS service center where the petition was originally filed and approved.

* Local service center receives returned petition.

* Local service center who processed the original petition sends a notice of receipt to the petitioner.

* Local service center reviews the returned petition and consular officer notes on the case.

* Local service center then sends either a NOID (Notice of Intent to Deny) or NOIR (Notice of Intent to Revoke) to the petitioner also asking for more proof of the relationship, many cases have specific consular objections to rebut.

* Petitioner is given 30-60 days from date of NOIR/NOID (depending on the service center) to respond with additional evidence of the relationship or other specific evidence. The timeframe to respond will be provided in the letter.

* Local service center receives evidence...if in the timeframe given (30-60 days) the case is reviewed and either original approval is reaffirmed or the petition is officially denied.

* If the petition is denied the local service center sends the petitioner an 'official' denial letter. This can be officially appealed if the denial letter states such.

* If the petition is reaffirmed the local service center sends the petitioner an official notice of reaffirmation.

* Local service center sends the reaffirmed petition AND its evidence provided in the rebuttal directly to the consulate along with a recommendation to issue a visa.

* Consulate notifies the beneficiary of a new interview date.

* Beneficiary has interview for the reaffirmed petition and the visa is either issued, or the case in placed in Administrative Processing which after cleared a visa is issued, or worst case scenario it is denied via Section 221(g) and returned again to the USCIS with a recommendation for revocation.

What can you do immediately when faced with this issue:

* First and foremost, contact a good immigration attorney.

* Immediately have the beneficiary send a scanned copy of the 221(g) issued.

* Contact the consulate directly (immediately) and attempt to have the petition reviewed by the senior consular before it is returned.

* If you are unable to get through to the consulate on the phone, contact them via email, and if you're mail has a "read verification" use it.

* Contact your congressman/senator, get them involved immediately. You will need to sign a release form giving them permission to make an inquiry on your behalf.

* Provide your congressman/senator with as much information as possible about your case, the interview, and the result.

* If your congressman/senator is top notch, they will not just send an email or letter to the consulate, they will call on the phone and try to get the petition reviewed again before it is sent back.

* If they are not successful, they can request the diplomatic pouch number the petition is being returned in. This number will allow you to track the petition until it is received by the local service center.

date='Nov 18 2008, 10:37 AM' post='2403394']

Hello,

I'm so depressed right now, i just finished my interview yesterday....i dont know if i passed the interview or am i denied, the lady from releasing gave me the pink slip and handed me the form saying that i need to submit the marriage index and crba of my son since my son had an appointment date this coming nov. 26 and asked me to submit 2 pcs of visa coz my pics i submitted to them taken last year but why they gave me back my passpot?

ive read this from family based immigration forums i hope this can help

http://149.101.23.2/graphics/lawsregs/INA.htm

The 221(g) forms vary from consulate/embassy and you can get one or more forms after your interview. They vary in color as well as the way they are written whereas some are brief and some are detailed. In most cases they say to contact the consulate/embassy after 45 days. Be aware that the 45 days means business days (no weekends or holidays) and in some parts of the world the processing times are longer than 45 days. Always, try and check for others that are going through the same consulate and see what the average processing time is for the majority of the applicants.

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Hello,

I'm so depressed right now, i just finished my interview yesterday....i dont know if i passed the interview or am i denied, the lady from releasing gave me the pink slip and handed me the form saying that i need to submit the marriage index and crba of my son since my son had an appointment date this coming nov. 26 and asked me to submit 2 pcs of visa coz my pics i submitted to them taken last year but why they gave me back my passpot?

hI JEN WE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM AFTER INTERVIEW THEY HANDED ME THE ina 221 G FORM AND REQUESTED A MARRIAGE INDEX WHICH IS CENOMAR .. wE WERE MARRIED LAST mAY 2007 AND I THOUGHT WE DONT NEED THE NSO CENOMAR COZ ONLY SINGLE STATUS NEED THAT.. ANOTHER DOCUMENT WERE REQUESTED IS MY HUSBAND DIVORCE PAPERS AND IM HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THAT COZ MY HUSBAND DOESNT HAVE THE COPY OF THE DIVORCE PAPER,,,IT WAS WRITTEN ON A LETTER THAT OUR CASE WAS PEND AND THEY STILL HAVE TO REVIEW OF OUR CASE AND AFTER THAT THEY GONNA SET ANOTHER INTERVIEW WHICH IS FRUSTRATING COZ WE DONT KNOW WHEN THEY GONNA CALL US FOR THE 2ND INTERVIEW..

Are you sure it was written on the paper you got that you will be scheduled for another interview? I got pink slip and white paper indicating the lacking document, which I submitted on November 24 (interview was Nov 21).. After submitting it the Pinay in Counter #18 asked me if I paid Delbros already, I said yes, and then that's it... She said I can go home then...

Girl, no 2nd interview will take place, unless you have different case...

Just submit your lacking documents and you will be fine... Cenomar is a requirement for CR1/IR1 now... I got mine too but they didn't get it from me. Only the NBI clearance with a.k.a. which they asked me to submit.

God bless us...

Girl, we have different case my case was about my husbands divorce paper after administrative review the embassy will inform us for the 2nd interview( depends on the case ).. Ive read one of the thread who has 221g form some of the were called for the second interview ..

Hello,

I'm so depressed right now, i just finished my interview yesterday....i dont know if i passed the interview or am i denied, the lady from releasing gave me the pink slip and handed me the form saying that i need to submit the marriage index and crba of my son since my son had an appointment date this coming nov. 26 and asked me to submit 2 pcs of visa coz my pics i submitted to them taken last year but why they gave me back my passpot?

hI JEN WE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM AFTER INTERVIEW THEY HANDED ME THE ina 221 G FORM AND REQUESTED A MARRIAGE INDEX WHICH IS CENOMAR .. wE WERE MARRIED LAST mAY 2007 AND I THOUGHT WE DONT NEED THE NSO CENOMAR COZ ONLY SINGLE STATUS NEED THAT.. ANOTHER DOCUMENT WERE REQUESTED IS MY HUSBAND DIVORCE PAPERS AND IM HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THAT COZ MY HUSBAND DOESNT HAVE THE COPY OF THE DIVORCE PAPER,,,IT WAS WRITTEN ON A LETTER THAT OUR CASE WAS PEND AND THEY STILL HAVE TO REVIEW OF OUR CASE AND AFTER THAT THEY GONNA SET ANOTHER INTERVIEW WHICH IS FRUSTRATING COZ WE DONT KNOW WHEN THEY GONNA CALL US FOR THE 2ND INTERVIEW..

well, i read this one post talking about CENMAR. they said that its one of requirements during the interview now.

Questions:

My husband was never been married, and i never been married too, Do i need this CENMAR? Also it was not written on the checklist that the nvc send to me.

help help help

im going to have my interview on DEC 17.

loy

If you are referring to a "CENOMAR" Certificate of No Marriage, think about this carefully. On the one hand you have provided proof in YOU ARE MARRIED the form of a "Marriage Certificate" issued by a PI government entity. Now you are suggesting that same government entity will provide you a Certificate of No Marriage to prove you are NOT MARRIED, when you obviously are.

CENOMAR is for fiance(e) K1 visas, not for K3, CR1 or IR1 as those applicants ARE MARRI

I jst had my CR1 visa interview last nov. 26, 2008 the consul asked me if i have the CENOMAR i told her that i dont have a copies of it with me because we already submit the CENOMAR when we filed for marriage license.. Ive just found out that the reason they were asking for it for document verification since DELBROS does not carries the DOCUMENT VERIFICATION anymore due to conflicts and complaints.. the consul gave me INA 221g to submit the CENOMAR or MArriage index..

Hi abspears. Mine was they took my passport and the filipino lady asked me to pay the visa delivery fee. I hope and pray that my visa will be issued soon and no comlications. Honestly I am worrying about it, but I put my worries into God's hands... let's keep praying...

God bless you...

Good luck to all of you! . You can hae your visa soon. JUS PRAY and HAVE FAITH.

I just had m interview last nov. 26, 2008 and they want me to get NSO marriage index which is CENOMAR we were already married for one year and six mos and i thought we dont need those papers.. and also they were asking for the divorce papers of my husband prior to me He had two marriages and He only declares one marriaGE PRIOR TO ME Right now im so worried because after submmitting this additional documents they gonna review the case and I dont know if this visa will be okay...

the same prob with me i still dont have the appointment letter. Ive been calling our embassy here but its hard to contact the call center

Call NVC because I think they may be able to assist you some. They have not been great at something. But, I think they can help with the medical. Or even better yet call the embassy you have the appointment with.

NVC is NO help at all...

Congrats sis!! When will be your medical appointment? my husband called NVC and my appointment interview date is on oct 7 but i still dont have the notice from manila embassy..

:dance: YES!!!! We finally have our interview date sched. on October 8, 2008.. :dance:

I just came back from Kathmandu yesterday after spending 6 wonderful weeks with my husband. As happy as our reunion was, the day when I left was one of the most painful experiences of my life - I vowed to Govi that the next time I flew back to New York that he would be coming with me. Still no progress on our case but I hope for NOA2 soon, along with the rest of the VSC January filers.

Hi there welcome back and keep on praying soon it will come.... keep in touch!

Hi there! My husband just send to me the ds230 as what i have read on nvc ds 230 should be supported with other required documents. I just want to know if you send the required documents together with ds 230 or its okay to send the ds 230 only? thanks

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IR-1 / CR-1 Visa

Event Date

Service Center : California Service Center

Consulate : Manilla, Philipines

Marriage : 2007-05-28

I-130 Sent : 2008-01-04

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-02-12

I-130 Approved : 2008-05-16

NVC Received : 2008-05-22

Received DS-3032 / I-864 Bill : 2008-05-27

Pay I-864 Bill 2008-06-06

Receive I-864 Package : 2008-06-10

Return Completed I-864 : 2008-06-12

Return Completed DS-3032 : 2008-06-14

Receive IV Bill : 2008-07-04

Pay IV Bill : 2008-07-06

Receive Instruction Package : 2008-07-11

Case Completed at NVC :

NVC Left :

Consulate Received :

Packet 3 Received :

Packet 3 Sent :

Packet 4 Received :

Interview Date :

Visa Received :

US Entry :

Comments :

Processing

Estimates/Stats : Your I-130 was approved in 133 days from your filing date.

I just came back from Kathmandu yesterday after spending 6 wonderful weeks with my husband. As happy as our reunion was, the day when I left was one of the most painful experiences of my life - I vowed to Govi that the next time I flew back to New York that he would be coming with me. Still no progress on our case but I hope for NOA2 soon, along with the rest of the VSC January filers.

Hi there welcome back and keep on praying soon it will come.... keep in touch!

Hi there! My husband just send to me the ds230 as what i have read on nvc ds 230 should be supported with other required documents. I just want to know if you send the required documents together with ds 230 or its okay to send the ds 230 only? thanks

sometimes missing documents or incorrect is due of false RFE. just wait 1 to 2 weeks. otherwise if theres missing documents they will let u know by mail. otherwise hang in there the automated voice respond will change once ur case completed. goodluck to u godbless. it took me 10 days before they changed my false RFE to case completed.

dont worry everything will be ok... just keep praying.

iVE JUST GOT MY DS 230 WHAT ARE THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS FOR THIS FORM DO I HAVE TO SUBMIT POLICE CLEARANCE OR NBI?