xgabrielx

As far as I'm aware, the maximum possible sentence was 6 months. And all I received was a fine. When I looked into it, a fine was not even an available option for a category 1 or 2 offense. Only for category 3, for which the maximum sentence was 6 months. This was 30 years ago (The offense, I mean. The maximum sentence is based on current information) "For what? Sorry but it’s not clear what you were expecting to happen?" The refusal form mentioned a mandatory supervisory review. I was told (Admittedly by ChatGPT!) that those take 6 to 8 weeks, but to allow extra time for a Christmas slowdown.

That's not on my ACRO. It was on the one I got for an Australian visa, years back, but this one has the convictions on it. The other never. I'll need to check my previous DS-160. Also: last time, I didn't fill out a VCU01. I don't think I even saw the option.

Yeah, and a magistrate's court that no longer exists. I kinda have to keep the same answers on my application. Well, I mean, I can add info, I suppose, but I'm locked in on stuff I've already said. I'm sure they keep it on record. Which is a shame, cus I also disclosed an offense - not a CIMT - that didn't show up on my ACRO and the court had no record of it. At least, I think I did. I may have removed it once I saw the ACRO and court disposition. There wouldn't be much point admitting to an offense I literally can't prove I committed, and that isn't recorded anywhere. So I do need to check my previous application, to ensure consistency. I need to anyway to get the dates of previous jobs and such. It's all estimates as so many comapnies I worked for, no longer exist. (Not my fault!)

I was handed the statement 5 minutes into the interview. That's why I don't think it would have been reviewed by then. IIRC, the max sentence would have been 6 months. The interviewer barely looked at anything, and barely asked any questions regarding ties, so it's possible, I guess, that this supervisor review happened before the interview. The wording is so poor, though, it could mean anything. I decided to give it 8 weeks, and allow 2 extra weeks for a Christmas slowdown, and that time is up now, so now I gotta apply again and make my ties more obvious...though...I've lived in the same house for 40 years and it has my name on it, and has since it was built. I'm just going to have to make the application better, and hope the interviewer is having a better day next time. I suppose I can't even argue that a TIC is not an admission of a further CIMT under the FAM definition of "admission", and would have to rely on the officer or later supervisor, already knowing it. I don't see arguing helping, even when I'm right. I guess the best chance I have is to do a better job of explaining my ties, and hope the interviewer offers to put me in for an inadmissability waiver, due to the conviction being 30 years old, and the offense being comitted when I was a teenager. In fact, I may have even been a minor when the TIC offense was committed, but I don't suppose there's any paperwork to show that. And what paperwork there would have been, would have only contained my own statement, and my own estimate of when the TIC offense was comitted.

I'm told that's usually added to any refusal based on 212(a)(2)(A)(i)(I) I'm not sure why that would be the case. I'm getting conflicting info from all over the place at the moment.

That was a typo on my part. I meant 212(a)(2)(A)(i)(I)

So, I had my visa interview at the London embassy on December 10th. At the interview I was told I was refused. Here's what the letter said: We are unable to issue you a visa because you have been found inelligible for admission to the United States under the following section(s) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. The item(s) marked with "X" pertain to your case. Please diisregard the unmarked items. 212(a)(2)(A)(i)(II): crime)s) involving moral turpitude Except as denoted by an asterisk,these are Permanent inelligibiliities; as a result of your inelligibility/inelligibilities, you cannot travel to the United States on the Visa Waiver Program at any time. In addition to your permanent ineligibility/inelligibilities, you have been denied a visa under section 214(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. A denial under 214(b) means this office has determined that you did not meet the legal requirements of the classification of the nonimmigrant visa for which you applied. You will not be receiving a visa and will not be able to travel to the United States on this application. The decision on this application is final,following a mandatory supervisor review. This decision isnot subject to appeal. Your case can only be reconsidered in the context of a new application. It is highly unlikely, however, that a reapplication in the near future would result in a different outcome. The thing is: The "Crime of moral turpitude" in question - burglary and theft (non-dwelling) qualifies under the petty offense exception, as the maximum possible sentence was under 12 months, and the sentence received, was under 6 months. In fact there was no custodial sentence. When the agent at the embassy asked about it, they seemed confused as to why there were two offenses listed on my court disposition, and asked what TIC was. I explained as best I could, but made somewhat of a hash of it, though I did clarify at the end by saying it's one conviction, not two. Since then I have heard conflicting things from people. for example: One said the "mandatory supervisor review" would have occured BEFORE my interview at the embassy. The language used certainly suggests this, but that's just how legalese is. I've also heard that the supervisor review would happen 6 to 8 weeks after the interview, but to allow 2 extra weeks for the Xmas holidays slowdown, and that I will be notified by email whether the supervisor overturned the decision or not. I've also heard that I will be notified if they overturn it, but hear nothing at all if they do not. I've heard that they will also overturn the 214(b) as that is usually added as insurance. And, I wasn't asked much about ties at all, only my source of income. I explained I am a full-time carer for my mother. Which is not only a source of income, but a pretty damn solid tie if you ask anyone who ever had a mother. I've also heard that the supervisor might have overturned the 212(a)(2)(A)(i)(II) but they won't overturn the 214(b) and that agents just use the 214(b) to prevent their refusals being overturned. (Which I'm not sure I buy. I think that came from people who were posting angry forum rants.) So...right now, I don't know IF there will be a supervisor review, and I don't know whether I will know if there is one, IF there is one. According to the CEAC page, my case has not been accessed by anyone since the day of the interview - which either supports what I heard from one source about the review having already been conducted by the time I had the interview. or supports what I heard from another source about the supervisor not using the same system to access the case, so it doesn't trigger an update, OR what I heard from another source: that a supervisor accessing the case WOULD trigger an update, but the CEAC page updates extremely infrequently and/or unreliably. So all-in-all, I'm somewhat frustrated and confused by the whole process. Largely due to the process being frustrating and confusing. If anyone can help me out with any gaps in my knowledge or false assumptions made by myself or other sources to whom I've spoken, which are made evident by what I've written here, I'd much appreciate it. Especially: DO these reviews actually happen? Do the supervisors even know what a TIC is, and that it is not a separate conviction? Does anyone have personal experience with this exact issue? And what was your outcome?