baxxy

UR right. Unfortunately, people put their opinion first over offering helpful advice. some should not post at all if they don't have anything useful to add to the discussion, and 8 of 10 VJ threads seem to turn into a pissing match.It is a shame.

Yup.. ya find those pests everywhere unfortunately!

in all honesty, what you've posted does smack of "hell hath no fury...." If your concern is your child's wellfare, then take up the issue in family court. As you stated, the custody agreement is that you're informed of where your child is when he/she is with the father. If the father fails to give you address and contact information, then that is an issue for the family courts to sort out....not ICE?

It doesn't matter what her post "smacks of".. she has a valid point, she has asked for help on what to do, maybe we should offer her help and NOT opinions. Nobody ever wants to hear the word "fraud" around here, its like the anti christ for some people. Wake up, it does happen. To the OP you have every reason to be concerned and you should do everything you can to report this person and have them face the consequences.

Yes, your HELP is really HELPFUL and opinionless. In case you missed it attacking me...I stated that this was an issue for the family courts. I am aware that 'it does' happen. I am also aware that there is a clear difference between family and immigration law. The issue facing the OP happens to fall into the former, yet she keeps trying to see if the latter will apply. It does not apply in order to 'protect' her child.

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OP, How about not releasing the child for visitation. If you are so truly concerned with the environment she is being exposed to...do not let him pick her up and take her. Force him to take you to court and explain. As you have stated, above all is the safety of your child. If it is so worrisome, act to protect your child. Reporting the father to ICE will get you nothing....as stated before, there's no guarantee that they will even investigate, much less give you the direct result you want. Again, if you truly fear for your child's safety, then do not let her go visit her father. period.

you also gave your useless opinion of assuming she was a woman scorned, whether she is or not was not the point in question....keep your opinions to yourself unless you're asked for them.

in all honesty, what you've posted does smack of "hell hath no fury...." If your concern is your child's wellfare, then take up the issue in family court. As you stated, the custody agreement is that you're informed of where your child is when he/she is with the father. If the father fails to give you address and contact information, then that is an issue for the family courts to sort out....not ICE?

It doesn't matter what her post "smacks of".. she has a valid point, she has asked for help on what to do, maybe we should offer her help and NOT opinions. Nobody ever wants to hear the word "fraud" around here, its like the anti christ for some people. Wake up, it does happen. To the OP you have every reason to be concerned and you should do everything you can to report this person and have them face the consequences.

I laugh every day, especially today !! its what helps pass the time. peace

And everyone laughs AT YOU everyday too

Sorry, but I only have comments for your post, and no answers.

As usual.

The question of why some American men go for hot foreign girls is wheeled out every so often here on VJ, yet not so often is the question asked " WHY DO SOME YOUNG , HOT FOREIGN WOMEN GO FOR FAT, UGLY, OLD AMERICAN MEN?" Hmmmmmmm....There is a theory or two on that too.

hey baxxy my old friend... I miss you too. I'm glad nothing I say ever bothers you. I see you're making friends like always...ha, ha, ha, . well majority rules. and that makes you the last part of the horse over the fence, (again). hang in there baxxy, another 2 or 3 years and the woman of your doubts will be here !!!!!

Ah! speak of the devil and he's sure to appear, see THIS is exactly what I'm talking about, this one jumps in every time like the old b1tch that she is, oh wait it's a he, but it could have fooled me, with nothing of substance to say as usual, just a dumb ignorant that gets off on doing stuff like this, watch out Ronjie or you'll be suspended again. Last time you called my mother a #######, and ouch! that hurt whats next on your useless agenda dumb@ss? I'm not here to make friends, but maybe to learn something which obviously won't be from you, because you have nothing of substance to offer. Man up b1tch and stop being a wimpy little girl!

You obviously have not met Eric yet - let it go, don't be baited. You have to know when to walk away.

Oh we have met in the past, lol, he responded to one of my posts that he didn't agree on a while back with his dumb stupid angry comments, we go way back. But he loves me so much, I guess he had to look me up and stalk me again. I'm flattered, I really am, to think that I made such an impression on him He likes me, he really really likes me

hey baxxy my old friend... I miss you too. I'm glad nothing I say ever bothers you. I see you're making friends like always...ha, ha, ha, . well majority rules. and that makes you the last part of the horse over the fence, (again). hang in there baxxy, another 2 or 3 years and the woman of your doubts will be here !!!!!

Ah! speak of the devil and he's sure to appear, see THIS is exactly what I'm talking about, this one jumps in every time like the old b1tch that she is, oh wait it's a he, but it could have fooled me, with nothing of substance to say as usual, just a dumb ignorant that gets off on doing stuff like this, watch out Ronjie or you'll be suspended again. Last time you called my mother a #######, and ouch! that hurt whats next on your useless agenda dumb@ss? I'm not here to make friends, but maybe to learn something which obviously won't be from you, because you have nothing of substance to offer. Man up b1tch and stop being a wimpy little girl!

wipe your Lip.. your talking #######....

Man up b1tch, seriously, I guess your wife wears the pants in your relationship, cos a b1tch like you doesn't wear any.

I'm not sure about the part where I contradict myself, I have always said that I have doubts/fears. And I don't think you are the enemy, but when I post something that you don't like all you do is attack. Why? It's a public forum and not everyone is going to agree with everyone, there are some people on here and they know who they are, that never have ANYTHING of substance to say and just like to jump in with idiotic comments and foolish jibber (and I'm not talking about you). Again, I expressed an opinion and because you didn't like it you've been pounding on me ever since, and that's ok, I respect your beliefs/opinions you should respect mine.

I do believe people have doubts/fears, but I believe they are deep seated and repressed, and that's why I get attacked on here, along with a few others who have certain views like mine, because nobody wants to think at all that it may never work out, and end in the dreaded D word. I'm more than happy to listen to people who speak without attacking and making smart @ss comments, thats one of the reasons I'm here. The more I talk with and spend time with my girl the more I'm convinced she is the one for me, thats why I'm proceeding with this (she is actually divorced now, long story and for another thread/another time maybe), but the fact remains that I still don't think I'm beyond being frauded, what is so wrong with that? I've known her for quite a while and have gotten to know her as much as someone can get to know someone in a long distance relationship. I'll say it again, unless you live with someone you cannot really fully know them or determine how well you're going to get along, and I'll stick by that. I don't really get a chance to get on here every day like a lot of people due to my job, so maybe I just haven't had a chance to read the posts that I should be reading, I'm all for learning from other peoples experiences, but when there are so many ignorant morons (again, I'm not talking about you) who never have anything real to say, who have ####### for brains, who leave comments for the hell of it just to try to pi$$ you off, well how can I take it seriously.

So long as you understand where some of us are coming from. If you have doubts, listen to them! When I proposed to my wife I was doubt-free, if I wasn't, I wouldn't have. Sure we have problems to overcome but I trust her completely. And as I said, you will find that communication will become very important. Bad communication leads to many problems and then you cannot communicate to straighten them out and it just gets worse. Good communication is the foundation of a good relationship. Understanding your partner. Them understanding you. It is vital.

Having said all that, I still disagree with the USCIS deporting a widow only because of her tragic status.

I hear you, and I know communication is important and we talk/IM every chance we get which is often. We communicate well and I express everything I feel to her and vice versa, and we lay everything out on the table. And again, you're entitled to your opinion on the USCIS topic and I respect it, and I'm entitled to mine. Let's just leave it at that. I don't believe in beating a dead horse, although there is one dead horse on here that I would like to beat LOL

hey baxxy my old friend... I miss you too. I'm glad nothing I say ever bothers you. I see you're making friends like always...ha, ha, ha, . well majority rules. and that makes you the last part of the horse over the fence, (again). hang in there baxxy, another 2 or 3 years and the woman of your doubts will be here !!!!!

Ah! speak of the devil and he's sure to appear, see THIS is exactly what I'm talking about, this one jumps in every time like the old b1tch that she is, oh wait it's a he, but it could have fooled me, with nothing of substance to say as usual, just a dumb ignorant that gets off on doing stuff like this, watch out Ronjie or you'll be suspended again. Last time you called my mother a #######, and ouch! that hurt whats next on your useless agenda dumb@ss? I'm not here to make friends, but maybe to learn something which obviously won't be from you, because you have nothing of substance to offer. Man up b1tch and stop being a wimpy little girl!

You can argue this anyway you see fit. Your relationship or whether it is a success or not does not mean a thing to me. But you would do well to revisit your posts and read what you wrote and reflect on what you wrote PRIOR to continuing on this path. I can only go by what you have written and if you are still having doubts then perhaps this is not the road to take. Your choice.

Adieu

I am well aware of what I wrote, how I feel and what my chances are of this working out. I don't stick my head in the sand like many people do on here. I am also well aware that the success, or the possible lack thereof, of my relationship means nothing to you, if it did, I'd be worried. This thread is about the 60 Minutes show and the topic that aired. You are the one that turned it around on to my relationship, and thats because you don't like my opinion on the matter at hand, so you feel you have to criticize my relationship and play on the doubts that I have, and thats ok, because thats what everyone on here does when I say something that they don't like. I'll say it again, I have my opinions and not every one likes them and thats just fine with me, but I will voice them when I see fit. Yes I have doubts, I always will as does everyone on here, the majority just don't say they do, the honest ones who do are in touch with reality. Only time will tell if it works or not and that applies to everyone, no exceptions.

Then you are well aware that you contradict yourself and generally sound like a macho idiot. I did not enter into my marriage thinking that time will tell me if it works out. How moronic is that philosophy? What you are describing is more like an arranged marriage where two people are forced together and they try to make the best of it. You have a choice right? You heart is uneasy about the situation right? What is the hurry? Why not wait until you are sure this is the right thing for you? Last we heard she is not even divorced yet from the last man who thought she was his world. She may be the perfect match for you, but if you are having any doubts then you are not ready for this. You proceed only when you are certain there is absolute trust between you.

Yes this did indeed go off topic as is often the case when we see some fool rushing into something like this. After all, we're the ones who will be reading your posts about how she swindled you for a GC. Instead of thinking we are the enemy here, take a day or two and think about what people are trying to tell you rather than tell us that we don't know what the heck we are talking about.

Look closely at what is bolded above. You have gone beyond an opinion and stated that everyone here has doubts and that only time will tell if the doubts were well founded. Is that how you honestly believe you should go into a marriage? If you live in constant doubt and mistrust, you will never realize the full potential of your relationship. Like getting into you car and wondering if it will blow up when you turn the key.

I've been reading these posts for nearly 3 years now and have seen countless posts like yours. There are others who have posted that have been around longer than that, and many more who have personal life experience that could be beneficial to you should you decide to listen rather than close your ears to unwanted advice. Again the choice is yours. Best of luck to you.

I'm not sure about the part where I contradict myself, I have always said that I have doubts/fears. And I don't think you are the enemy, but when I post something that you don't like all you do is attack. Why? It's a public forum and not everyone is going to agree with everyone, there are some people on here and they know who they are, that never have ANYTHING of substance to say and just like to jump in with idiotic comments and foolish jibber (and I'm not talking about you). Again, I expressed an opinion and because you didn't like it you've been pounding on me ever since, and that's ok, I respect your beliefs/opinions you should respect mine.

I do believe people have doubts/fears, but I believe they are deep seated and repressed, and that's why I get attacked on here, along with a few others who have certain views like mine, because nobody wants to think at all that it may never work out, and end in the dreaded D word. I'm more than happy to listen to people who speak without attacking and making smart @ss comments, thats one of the reasons I'm here. The more I talk with and spend time with my girl the more I'm convinced she is the one for me, thats why I'm proceeding with this (she is actually divorced now, long story and for another thread/another time maybe), but the fact remains that I still don't think I'm beyond being frauded, what is so wrong with that? I've known her for quite a while and have gotten to know her as much as someone can get to know someone in a long distance relationship. I'll say it again, unless you live with someone you cannot really fully know them or determine how well you're going to get along, and I'll stick by that. I don't really get a chance to get on here every day like a lot of people due to my job, so maybe I just haven't had a chance to read the posts that I should be reading, I'm all for learning from other peoples experiences, but when there are so many ignorant morons (again, I'm not talking about you) who never have anything real to say, who have ####### for brains, who leave comments for the hell of it just to try to pi$$ you off, well how can I take it seriously.

Your head is stuck up so deep in the sand that painting you a picture would just not do. Like someone else said "Hello Pot, this is Kettle" .......

Actually, I think his head is stuck somwhere else.

hey guy's... your arguing with a stump !! you'll get nowhere. besides why would someone want to go back to their country if you were really a good provider? my wife will inherit enough to be set for life. welfare certainly isn't in the future for her

Heyyy look whos back!!! Another ignorant that lives in the twilight zone, that never has anything of substance to say but just bash at other peoples posts, and make stupid idiotic comments ! I guess you never really got over me from the last time....Ahh it's good to know I'm so unforgettable on here, makes me feel so special! You're statement is as ignorant as you are, if you read the posts you would see how dumb you really are. Nothings changed here, stupid is as stupid does, you're stupid for life, at least you've got something to leave your wife when you kick it, God knows the woman will certainly deserve it for putting up with your moronic @ss!

Her profession is in demand and she will end up making pretty decent money, or at least she will when she gets here. She is still a student with little or no money, so back then and still at this moment shes not capable of supporting herself. Again, I'm wondering why you seem to be obsessed with my relationship, you don't have to like what I said but in the U.S. we can say what we want, remember?

The job market is great here, isn't it? Again, don't flatter yourself. I'm not obsessed with your relationship. Your naivety is amusing.

I don't have to flatter myself, you're doing it for me.

There is no point just blaming him for everything - He could have done this, he could have done that. What about she also could have done something to help herself. He is trying to justify what he did to the best of his knowledge back then. What about her, what did she do, make things more difficult for him by not even telling him how she felt?

I understand PTSD after miscarriage, and it could have been a major concern. But the doctors she was probably seeing after it did not figure out that something was wrong? She did not tell anyone about what was happening. She just expected everybody to do everything to do everything right.

Give him a break, he was working, trying to provide for his family. So what if he did not have cash lying around. Wasn't it her responsibility too to try and work it out some other way. My husband makes a good living, owns a house etc etc but even he did not have the cash for AOS immidiately so should I have stopped talking to him? I just took out my savings (its us now not him and I, isn't it?)

Since I am not working and my husband is, what part of taking care of our home, dogs etc makes me a maid? I did the same back in my country too. I am sure she was working and taking care of other things in PI too. Why if she did the same here, its termed as 'abuse that she was subjected to'. He's human and he can feel the frustration too with a nagging, complaining woman.

Why are we making it sound like he did it all wrong and she was just a brainless, voiceless doll? She could have been proactive. Both made mistakes. He is atleast trying to get it right now

What a breath of fresh air you are! Thanks for this, seems like most on here want to bash him. I know why too!..

I agree. I entered into a marriage with doubts....I'm now divorced two years. With my sweetie, there is no doubts. I can't imagine my life without him. If a person has concerns about the person they are intending to marry its time to seriously look at whether your making the right decision. People get cold feet sure, but.... Some people I guess just look for the negative in everything.

So that's what I'm trying to avoid. If I still feel the same way at the last minute I won't be doing it, theres plenty of time for me to be assured that this is the right thing to do. I don't want to make the same mistake as you did.

Do you remember when you posted this back in July?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry2061453 Post#48.

And now you say she can live and work anywhere on her own. Hmmmmm......

"Actually shes really not capable of supporting herself, she still lives with her parents and would never survive living on her own with all the expense it entails. She knows what my attitude is like, I talk to her all the time about this, she doesnt get offended she laughs it off, and makes fun of me, she has a sense of humor, and thats just a couple of things that I love about her. As for you implying that I'm miserable well thats the furthest thing from the truth, I'm quite happy, I have a job that I love, I have family and friends (and a dog) that care for me, I have my own house, so I'm the furthest thing from miserable. So lets hope you find that peace that I can honestly say I have within. Losing your anger would be a start."

She's come a long way since then furthering her education, by next year she will be fully qualified in what she does and will start to make money, I'm very proud of her. Her profession is in demand and she will end up making pretty decent money, or at least she will when she gets here. She is still a student with little or no money, so back then and still at this moment shes not capable of supporting herself. Again, I'm wondering why you seem to be obsessed with my relationship, you don't have to like what I said but in the U.S. we can say what we want, remember?

Anyone that does not question the validity of their relationship with a non USC from a country that's renowned for fraudulent marriages is the one with their head in the sand.

Why would anyone marry someone if they are questioning the validity of their relationship? Why would someone continue a relationship if they suspected fraud? Why would one get involved with someone from a non US country it they are fearful of fraud? Did you meet this woman online? Now, who has their head in the sand? Seriously.

I will never take anything for granted when it comes to her intentions, she seems to be honest and all that but AGAIN i'll never say "it can't happen to me". Hmmm you seem to be very interested in my relationship somehow, contrary to your saying you weren't, now I'm starting to worry. I just got back from visiting there recently for the second time and it was great, I do plan on going there one more time before she gets here, and when she does come here, if I feel any doubt before the 3 months is up I won't be marrying her. I'm starting to wonder also why my opinions matter so much to you.

You can argue this anyway you see fit. Your relationship or whether it is a success or not does not mean a thing to me. But you would do well to revisit your posts and read what you wrote and reflect on what you wrote PRIOR to continuing on this path. I can only go by what you have written and if you are still having doubts then perhaps this is not the road to take. Your choice.

Adieu

I am well aware of what I wrote, how I feel and what my chances are of this working out. I don't stick my head in the sand like many people do on here. I am also well aware that the success, or the possible lack thereof, of my relationship means nothing to you, if it did, I'd be worried. This thread is about the 60 Minutes show and the topic that aired. You are the one that turned it around on to my relationship, and thats because you don't like my opinion on the matter at hand, so you feel you have to criticize my relationship and play on the doubts that I have, and thats ok, because thats what everyone on here does when I say something that they don't like. I'll say it again, I have my opinions and not every one likes them and thats just fine with me, but I will voice them when I see fit. Yes I have doubts, I always will as does everyone on here, the majority just don't say they do, the honest ones who do are in touch with reality. Only time will tell if it works or not and that applies to everyone, no exceptions.

Your head is stuck up so deep in the sand that painting you a picture would just not do. Like someone else said "Hello Pot, this is Kettle" If you have doubts about your spouse's intentions, you already are in a screwed up relationship. Calling immigrants uneducated exposes your loathe of immigrants and your spouse (even though she maybe educated). Your self entitlement makes me wonder why you are in a relationship with one.

Don't mistreat/deminish/talk down your spouse when she gets here.......

Your statement makes as much sense as going to the tropics on vacation and bringing your snowboard and skis, idiotic. Anyone that does not question the validity of their relationship with a non USC from a country that's renowned for fraudulent marriages is the one with their head in the sand. I don't loathe immigrants at all and how you came to that assumption shows your ignorance my dear. I have not made any statement to imply that. My fiance is not my spouse, just yet anyway, and your mention of that shows you didn't even read what I posted. I happen to love my girl but I won't be of the impression of "this can't happen to me" and anyone who does is a fool. In just the last few days I've read about a couple of people who have just had that happen to them. I wonder if they had some kind of doubt or fear of this happening. As far as mistreating her when she gets, well I have never mistreated a woman in my life, my mom raised me well, but that wouldn't be any of your business anyway, now would it?

Cruel and inhumane is bringing someone into a foreign country, copletly making them dependent on you. It is the citizen's RESPONSABILITY to help the immigrant, he choose to marry and bring to this country, adjust to the new culture and not only that, but give them the freedom he seems to enjoy so much(drving anywhere, looking for work etc). What exactly he did best for her? He "talked" her into a corner? He gave her food and 2 kids to rase and a mother to watch over her. That is what you call the "best"? Taliking is not always the solution, ya know? Doing is a part of it too. What exactly was he doing for her? Although he sais she choose the house to live in, she was soon to be treated as the guest in their home, as an "intruder" who should be "checked upon" and recorded by "mom" to prove her son that his wife was the wrong do-er. Look, his mom was the guest in their house, ya know? The fact that his wife wanted his mom to come live with them untill she gets a place for herself, should tell you more what kind of soul this girl had. She had good intentions for her and her husband's familly.

How would you like to go to another country and have somebody watching your every move and "reporting" you in at the end of the day? what you said, what u did, wether you made the bed by 12 pm or waited untill 3pm?(just an example). This girl was "locked up" in the house. All she had to do was clen the house, feed the kids and care for mom and wait for her turn in line. Wow, he talked to her...big deal. Talked to her about what? How she sould have patience another year untill she can drive? Untill she can have a job? Untill she can have some friends? Untill she can do something for herself independant of him?

I don't realy care what this guy does or sais. I think the TITLE of his post sais more than anything that his intentions were to wait to make sure he's not getting a bad wife who'll take advantage of him. That is not how you do when you get someone to live here. You owe them the freedom they used to have in their country and yes, if you take a wife or husband from overseas, you take a chance, you risk. And so the immigrant risks too. In this case the immigrant did all she could to prove a good wife. Did he do his part and prove he is a decent human beeing? I don't thik so. Keeping someone under your power for 10 monts is NUTS. And you are nuts for even sugesting it's the poor girls fault that she lost her marbels.

She knew what she was in for, and she accepted it. Then she changes her mind? Too bad for her. She couldn't handle it and couldn't stand things not going her way, so she throws tantrums on the floor? He provided a home for her and tried to provide more luxuries but an injury got in the way, where was her support for him then? Instead of being patient and working it out, she went psycho, him and his kids better off without her! There's enough nut jobs in the world without bringing one into your home and introducing them to your family.

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It is a bona fide relationship and I have all the back up needed to prove it, so the last thing on my mind is that I will be denied. I'm 100% sure of that. Yes I agree that there is huge fraud over there, and for all I know maybe my fiancee is secretly fooling me, I do have that doubt from time to time, call it being cautious and I'd be silly if I wasn't. She was married to an American before so I'm probably at a higher risk for being used than someone whose fiancee has never been married. Every single person on here takes that chance, but time will tell I suppose. As far as my logic and stereotypes, well they're not your concern, they're mine, so chillax.

You are 100% sure of the decision the Manila consulate will make? You are navive. You personally may be ceratin that everthing is legit and I'm sure it is so, but don't ever count your chickens before they're hatched, especially where immigration is concerned.

What you think is not my concern at all. You made an ignorant statement and were called on it.

I'm sure. Thats where I don't have any doubts . Ignorant to you maybe, that's your opinion and opinion only, but I can respect that, because everyone's entitled to one without getting b1tch slapped.

You can argue this anyway you see fit. Your relationship or whether it is a success or not does not mean a thing to me. But you would do well to revisit your posts and read what you wrote and reflect on what you wrote PRIOR to continuing on this path. I can only go by what you have written and if you are still having doubts then perhaps this is not the road to take. Your choice.

Adieu

I am well aware of what I wrote, how I feel and what my chances are of this working out. I don't stick my head in the sand like many people do on here. I am also well aware that the success, or the possible lack thereof, of my relationship means nothing to you, if it did, I'd be worried. This thread is about the 60 Minutes show and the topic that aired. You are the one that turned it around on to my relationship, and thats because you don't like my opinion on the matter at hand, so you feel you have to criticize my relationship and play on the doubts that I have, and thats ok, because thats what everyone on here does when I say something that they don't like. I'll say it again, I have my opinions and not every one likes them and thats just fine with me, but I will voice them when I see fit. Yes I have doubts, I always will as does everyone on here, the majority just don't say they do, the honest ones who do are in touch with reality. Only time will tell if it works or not and that applies to everyone, no exceptions.

We don't need anymore uneducated people who come here to feed off it at the taxpayers expense.

We have plenty of uneducated citizens too. Hell pot, this is the kettle....

Um where did I mention that this would apply to MY fiance? I mentioned that she would be going back to the phils if anything happened to me, because thats what she would want. She is very family oriented and would not want to be alone here, but with her family. She is more than capable of supporting herself anywhere.

Are you sure about that?

Yes we do have a lot of uneducated citizens, I don't disagree with that but they are OUR uneducated citizens, and we need to deal with that. What we don't need is dealing with citizens who ARE NOT ours, let their own country deal with them.

And yes I'm quite sure I didn't imply that it would apply to my fiance.

####### - now immigrants are un-educated . Do you enjoy digging holes?

Yes a lot of them are unfortunately, thats why picking a USC to take care of them is an easy way out for them.

I cant help but have this fear about things not working out when my fiancee arrives here, eventually. I mean shes coming here alone, she has no family or friends here, I am it for her. Now the thing is, what if things just dont work out for us here? Ive been to visit her a few times already and the most we spent together straight was 2 weeks. We had great times but that was just a vacation. You never really know anybody unless you live with them, it doesnt matter how much phone/IM communication you have. So what if things dont go like we thought? Does anyone here ever think about this? Does anyone know of this happening to anyone?

By the way, it would help if you go out and find out all you can about a church for her, are there community groups she might be interested in, are there fellow countrywomen around she can talk to etc.?

I've done all that for her, and she has also researched online the entire region of where we'll be living so she has quite a few things lined up to keep herself occupied and help her adjust. I told you shes a very smart woman

After having read several of your earlier posts I responded as I did. If she is as smart as you say then she will be able to make it without you. The kids thing was an example of what could happen. Nothing to do with your plans. Your claim was that she should not be ALLOWED to remain if you died and that she would most likely end up on welfare if she did. That speaks volumes of what you think about her. These are your words, not mine:

Why would the person in question want to stay here if their spouse dies? Especially if they came here JUST to be with their other half. Seems like they would want to return to their homeland to be with their family. Chances are they'd end up on welfare here anyway and depending on our government to support them, God knows we have enough of our own here doing that. It makes sense to me that they should be asked to leave.

So you feel that she is not competent to live in America without you to support her? Good luck dude, you're gonna need it.

p.s. Did you get anywhere with the annulment yet?

p.s.s. You will find that non-physical communication is far more important than you think it is. (see 1st quote above)

Um where did I mention that this would apply to MY fiance? I mentioned that she would be going back to the phils if anything happened to me, because thats what she would want. She is very family oriented and would not want to be alone here, but with her family. She is more than capable of supporting herself anywhere.

If your case gets denied because USCIS feels it is fraudulent and that you don't have a bona fide realtionship will you agree with them or fight it? After all, you are trying to bring someone here from the Phillipines and we all know that it has an extremely high rate of fraud. Your logic and stereotypes work against you.

It is a bona fide relationship and I have all the back up needed to prove it, so the last thing on my mind is that I will be denied. I'm 100% sure of that. Yes I agree that there is huge fraud over there, and for all I know maybe my fiancee is secretly fooling me, I do have that doubt from time to time, call it being cautious and I'd be silly if I wasn't. She was married to an American before so I'm probably at a higher risk for being used than someone whose fiancee has never been married. Every single person on here takes that chance, but time will tell I suppose. As far as my logic and stereotypes, well they're not your concern, they're mine, so chillax.

No I didn't see the show. And who knows what the future holds, maybe she will, I doubt it somehow, shes educated and has a great job already. She knows how to find a job, is fluent in English so I highly doubt that would be a problem for her. Plus shes told me that if things don't work out, she will return to the phils to be with her family, considering that she doesn't know one other person here.

It won't apply to your fiance, but you can make that statment about a show you didn't watch or a person you know nothing about? But the women on 60 Minutes will end up on welfare? A very ignorant statement.

In your opinion maybe, but it is what it is, there's no avoiding facts. America is generous enough policing the whole world, and trying to create peace where we really don't have to. We don't need anymore uneducated people who come here to feed off it at the taxpayers expense. If the USC brings an immigrant here it's their responsibility to take care of them, not the U.S. taxpayers, if the USC dies before the immigrant is capable of or legally allowed to work here, yes they should be sent back no questions asked. There's a simple way to determine that of course, so that no hard working educated person willing to work is included in that bunch.