riejavoo

riejavoo

The original poster of this thread is not exactly prepared to help you, they are just beginning this journey, and they found this on a link. There are a few people here that have gone the process to completion. These are the people that can help guide you. Each case is different, but there are basic steps you need to get started on preparing. First start by reading this link.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3896

It is filled with much research and knowledge on returned petitions. Read this, have your SO contact her senator/congressman to assist you. There is much work ahead of you, and you need to be prepared.

Thank you for the information, but I have tried many timed to ask for help with my representative - and they are useless!!!! I know more then they do. What is an SO?

Sorry it took me awhile to respond - thank you anyway,

That is part of the contract if you are marrying in an islamic ceremony. Part of a contract that the husband gives the wife to be gold - shebka - and money as part of the contract of marriage - go ont he internet under Islamic Weddings or Egyptian marriage -etc...

Out of curiousity did anybody receive dowry in jewelry or money?

I would not hire a lawyer in another State. Not a good idea in my opinion. I live in the Washington DC metropolitan area and believe when I say there are 1000 upon 1000 of lawyers here willing to take your money and do no work. Don't learn the hard way like so many other people, me included. I could have filled out the paper work and filed it myself. It's not hard. Are you applying for the fiance visa? She should try to do the filing herself or find an attorney in her town. If She still insists on having a lawyer do the work, she should try to get a referral from someone.

Good Luck.

good morning everyone

i was reading some topics here in vj about k1 visa and i really got shocked

well me and my queen will hire an immigration lawyer to file for k1 visa

i tried many times to tell my queen that we can do that and we don't need to hire any lawyers

but while she is so worried girl and she says she can not do that by her own i agreed with her

so when i was reading some topics i found someone here in vj got problems with an immigration lawyer

after he sent a package of documents and many pictures ......to the lawyer and paid the attorney fees all communications from the lawyer have stopped. He doesn't answer emails, messages and he doesn't answer the phone calls.

my fiancée lives in North Carolina and we will hire an immigration lawyer from Massachusetts and she will not meet him in person . we will just send our documents to him and we will pay to him by credit card or money order ...

i have been thinking maybe we can him to send us a copy of his license or his ID

we checked his name in yellow page and stuff like that and we talked to him several times and he sound so good man

so my question is how can we make sure he is a good lawyer and he wont do the same to us???!!

i will appreciate your advice

have a nice blessed weekend

Mohamed

please see below - Meriem, sorry - I am new to this site and my reply to you is at the bottom....

Thank you again for your help.

Robyn

I would just send the embassy an email, and explain to them that that is only his mailing address and not his physical address. Then give them his physical address and directions. Good luck.

Meriem

Thank you for the reply, I really appreciate it. I was so freaked out about it, I could not find a solution.

Blessed day to you as well.

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quote name=tenderheart197900' date='Feb 17 2008, 05:04 AM' post='1588852]

i agree with mariem or you can say he was living there but for some reasons he moved to another place and i think that could happen to anyone during the visa process

my best wishes for ya

have a nice blessed day

Meriem, thank you.....I so appreciate your help....

Have a great day.

ps as you can tell, I am new to this .....

I would just send the embassy an email, and explain to them that that is only his mailing address and not his physical address. Then give them his physical address and directions. Good luck.

Meriem

Hello.

I am really hoping to get some help. When we filed documents, they asked for my husband's address in Egypt. He is just renting a room and gives his Grandmothers address as his mailing address. The Embassy sent someone to check on his address and His 85 year old grandmother told them he does not live here - Any advice on how to handle this?

Thank you ,

Hi Abdo.

I am new to this site, but hoping you can help me. The freedom of information act form - Our case has been sent back and my Husband received a letter from Embassy - saying they are not convinced our relationship is real or valid. They sent the case back in Aug 07 - I have called 2 x's to find out when I will be notified. They said they updated the file and I should hear soon. Do you think I should request the FOIA form? I am not sure how to proceed.

Thank you soo much for any advice you can offer -

Robyn[

quote name=abdo' date='Feb 13 2008, 04:50 PM' post='1580143]

Here is what is happens when a petition is returned :

•221(g) is issued to beneficiary at conclusion of the interview stating the application and/or petition is being returned to the United States.

•Petition is returned to the United States by the interviewing consulate for "further review" in what is called a diplomatic pouch.

•Returned petition is received by the NVC. It is reviewed and entered into the fraud database by fraud management.

•Returned petition is sent to the local service center where the petition was originally filed.

•Local service center receives returned petition.

•Local service center who processed the original petition sends a notice of receipt to the petitioner.

•Local service center reviews the returned petition and consular officer notes on the case.

•Local service center then sends either a NOID (Notice of Intent to Deny) or NOIR (Notice of Intent to Revoke) to the petitioner also asking for more proof of the relationship, many cases have specific consular objections to rebut.

•Petitioner is given 30-60 days from date of NOIR/NOID (depending on the service center) to respond with additional evidence of the relationship or other specific evidence. The timeframe to respond will be provided in the letter.

•Local service center receives evidence...if in the timeframe given (30-60 days) the case is reviewed and either reaffirmed or denied.

•If the petition is denied the local service center sends the petitioner an 'official' denial letter. This can be be appealed if the denial letter states such.

•If the petition is reaffirmed the local service center sends the petitioner an official notice of reaffirmation.

•Local service center sends the reaffirmed petition AND its evidence provided in the rebuttal directly to the consulate along with a recommendation to issue a visa.

•Consulate notifies the beneficiary of a new interview date.

•Beneficiary has interview for the reaffirmed petition and the visa is either issued, or the case in placed in Administrative Processing which after cleared a visa is issued, or worst case scenario it is denied via 221(g) and returned again to the USCIS.

What can you do immediately when faced with this issue:

•Immediately have the beneficiary send a scanned copy of the 221(g) issued.

•Contact the consulate directly (immediately) and attempt to have the petition reviewed by the senior consular before it is returned.

•If you are unable to get through to the consulate on the phone, contact them via email, and if you're mail has a "read verification" use it.

•Contact your congressman/senator, get them involved immediately. You will need to sign a release form giving them permission to make an inquiry on your behalf.

•Provide your congressman/senator with as much information as possible about your case, the interview, and the result.

•If your congressman/senator is top notch, they will not just send an email or letter to the consulate, they will call on the phone and try to get the petition reviewed again before it is sent back.

•If they are not successful, they can request the diplomatic pouch number the petition is being returned in. This number will allow you to track the petition until it is received by the local service center.

•If you do not know who your congressman/senator is, use the following links to find out who represents your area:

US Congressional Representatives (By State) US Senators (By State) If the petition is returned, you are in for a wait. The diplomatic pouch the petition is returned in is sent from embassy to embassy picking up other returned petitions along the way. It could take up to 2 or 3 months for it to be received by fraud management at the NVC...then the NVC has the petition for about 1 month before sending it to the local service center where it was originally filed. One thing to also know is that returned petitions do not take priority...they are reviewed in the order they are received...that is after new petitions have been processed.

What you can do in the meantime while you wait:

•Continue contacting the consulate to get an actual reason for the return...not the blanket "validity of relationship" response.

•Stay in contact with your congressman/senator, they can assist you in getting the actual reason for denial.

•Immediately file a Freedom Of Information Act request for the Department of State asking specifically for the consular notes on your returned petition: DOS FOIA

•Immediately file for a Freedom of Information Act request for the USCIS asking for the same specific consular notes on your returned petition: USCIS FOIA

•Continue to document your relationship, emails, letters, phone bills, visits to their country, etc.

•Be ready for the opportunity to rebut the consular findings.

•Contact a good immigration attorney...preferrably one who has experience in returned and denied petitions.

After a period of 6 months or longer has passed and you do not hear anything from the local service center regarding the receipt of your return, or the results of the review, you can contact the CIS Ombudsman. While the Ombudsman cannot make the USCIS reaffirm your returned petition, they can assist when processing times are outside of guidelines..

Now, there are some differences between returned fiance petitions and marriage petitions. The K1 is especially at risk due to the expiration of the original approval, many returned K1s are not given the opportunity to rebut, they receive a notice telling them their K1 has expired and may file again at any time...this is why the FOIA is so important. You need to know the exact reason the petition was returned, just filing again is a huge risk if you do not know why the petition was returned in the first place.

While the K3 does have an expiration date also, they are treated more seriously. I have not known anyone who has had a returned K3 not being given the opportunity to rebut. Obviously the CR1 does not expire. Still, it is very important to file the FOIA, not every service center will tell you exactly what the consular office findings or objections to issuing the visa are. Some people are only asked to provide more evidence of their relationship.