Jamie&Dora

Hmm,

As to your question "can k3 be tracked at nvc?", well by the internet the answer is NO. If USCIS says "we have approved your petition" on you NOA2, then that document will tell you what you need to know. Example:

Both my k3 and 130 were approved on 1/30. As i read the NOA2's the K3 was "forwarded to the NVC", the 130 said "forwarded to the national records center" (they assume we would do AOS). So once you get your NOA2's, you have no reason to call UCSIS again. All you can do w/ NVC is call them every day and be ready w/ your USCIS case number, name and birth date of your spouse. Until they OFFICIALLY recieve the case (which includes data entry), you will hear "we have no record of that case number."

But once they do, they will give you an NVC case number. Most K3's fly out of the NVC for the Embassy w/in 4 working days since there is nothing for them to process. After all it is a temporary visa so they just push it to the Embassy to finalize. The 130 however takes much longer.

So in the end, READ your NOA2's. That will tell you where your petitions are going. Then start making buddies w/ the Embassy and let them know you are real people. This was my case. My wife just arrived on 3/11 on the k3 and we are in heaven.

God Bless You,

-jamie

Well, in 36 hours I will pick up my beloved wife and bring her home, and Saturday we meet with our lawyer to file the AOS. Only us VJ'ers know how difficult this journey is. I can't wait until tomorrow.

See, over the past summer i thought she would be here bye Christmas so i demolished the entire master bedroom and bathroom. I installed a huge jetted tub, bamboo floors in the bedroom and topped it off with all new furniture. On Dora's new dresser is a huge pile of gifts from my family. It has been sitting like this for 6 months, waiting for her to complete it. My 3 children (ages 10,8 and 5) are so excited and have been cleaning the house all weekend. They want it to be perfect for her.

My neighbor will watch the kids as i go to pick her up and we will wake them when we get back with hugs and kisses. Then we will all sleep together in the new bed. I am taking Wednesday off work so we can walk the kids to the bus stop in the morning. Then do NOTHING until school is finished.

I do have one strange feeling. After 14 months (Last Jan we decided to marry) i have been at this stupid computer for hours a day, like some of you. I am trying to imagine what it will be like not NEEDING to be online all the time. Of course Dora will webcam with family a lot, but I will not have to worry about the 6 hour time difference in Hungary ANY MORE. Wow, what a ride.

May God Bless You All,

jamie

Liaz,

For my wife's K3 interview she came with a HUGE pile of support. Actually, overwhelming evidence including letters from my extended family in support of our marriage, also from my 3 children. But in the end, he was not interested AT ALL.

Since my wife had a cancelled tourist visa when she was denied at POE, he beat the hell out of her for 3 hours on ONLY that theme. At one point they thought she was going to feint and they escorted her out of the room for water and sugar.

In the end, being that she is remakably strong, she was approved. I am relieved she was approved, but not happy at all at how my fellow citizen (the consol), treated her.

So, I can't see how you could ever bring "too much" to an interview. It is just too important of a moment in our lives to not be as totally prepared as possible. And besides, collecting all that stuff is fun. I got to re-read old emails and was smiling the whole time.

May the Lord Bless You,

-jamie

Vj'ers,

Thank you so much for the many heartfelt wishes. It has been so touching to see so many members just offer a common joy in our journey. But i want to share with those few members who have a situation similar to mine so they may better prepare.

Dora had a CANCELLED 10 year tourist visa. She was coming last Jan (after our relationship had begun), and we were anting to explore the possibility of our relationship. (I was divocred with 3 children). She was denied entry 14 months ago. Of course came the long road to be able to legally marry her in her country.

Our lawyer told us 14 months ago that at the interview, the fact of her cancelled visa would be the hot topic. Even after all this time we did NOT know how pivotal this would be even after countless chats with our lawyer. In the end, Dora arrived with a truck load of documentation supporting our marriage, he asked to see nothing.

All he did was pound her for (i came to know 2 hours) as to her original tourist visa application. It appears afterwards that his sole purpose was to ensure that my wife was not

a visa violator from the very instance that she desired to VISIT the USA. The interview was so brutal that at one point the interviewer feared Dora might pass out and she was escorted out for water and candy, then to resume the interview. Now, my fellow members, Dora is college educated and this process almost broke her. Even after he told her she was approved she was not certain as to her fate. SHE WAS BROKEN BY THE INTERVIEW.

The only reason she was approved was that our marriage was VALID. How i mean that is that the consul could NOT find any break in her story as to her intent to visit the USA.

So, for my fellow VJ'ers if your spouse has a prior visa problem, expect a very difficult interview at the least. But if your journey is true, they will never be able to break it. But if you are hiding, they will find it.

So, for those that may be hiding something, don't ever expect a happy ending. But for those that have nothing to hide, stand in the light for darkness can not overshadow it.

Dranied,

jamie

APPROVED.

I just got an email from them embassy, "the visa was approved by the consul and she can pick it up on Monday." But when i spoke with Dora she was completely drained. We have always been open that she had a cancelled tourist visa. The consul did not care at all any documents about our relationship. He beat her up for 1 hour about her cancelled tourist visa. She almost passed out. They brought her water and candy.

The consul wants to run her fingerprints one more time against a US data base, then she can pick up the visa on Monday. Yes, i am greatly relieved but this is tempered by the brutal treatment she got from the consul. I NEED A DRINK!

-jamie

Hi VJ'ers,

I'm a nervous wreck. I have been up since 3am (when Dora's interview was to start.) I just called them Embassy and she JUST started her interview. The guy told me to call back in 1 hour. I am burning through rosary beads.

My lawyer is completely confident. I too am positive, but a phone call would keep me from running to the toilet!!

-jamie

Hi there,

I am a K3 sponsor for my wife, who will interview THIS friday. Your husband will be told everything he needs for NVC to get ready to send your petition to the Embassy but i can encourage you one thing. Get copies of every possible thing to support your union. Emails, chat, phone bills, cards, ANYTHING. In the end, all this paperwork is just part of a machine, your interview is the "end game".

In US immigration, WE are guilty until proven innocent. For my wife's interview on Friday, not only do we already have tax forms, bank statements, email, chat, phone records, etc. But this entire week my extended family has been writing letters to the Ambassador supporting our union, and forwarding them to my wife to bring to the interview.

We have nothing to hide, but we will be damned to blindly trust any official simply becuase we "filled the forms correctly". Please read threads into "interview disasters", etc. Basically if you have something to hide, they will find it. But if you do NOT, then you have should drown them in information supporting your case. DON'T LET THEM CHOSE.

jamie

Thank you all so much. Even though the news is good, it is hard to feel totally positive. Numerous VJ'ers have gotten to the interview only to have something happen negative. At least we have a devoted lawyer who has been talking to Dora about the interview for some weeks. I do feel that this process can give you no true peace until you great your loved one at the airport.

So, i have continued to push. My parents and sisters have all written emails to the Ambassador for their approval of our marriage and forwarded them to Dora to bring to the interview. Who knows, maybe she will have one of those 2 minute interviews like some have had, but how can we possibly count on that happening???

Dora is very confident, I on the other hand just don't want to have to "restart" the 130 that is sitting at the National Records Center. Sure she has a cancelled tourist visa, but we have countless letters to Senators and Reps admitting it from the begining. She even admitted she worked the last 2 weeks upon trying to reenter last January to visit me. Of course she was sent back and visa cancelled. But from the begining we have been honest.

How sad. Dora became interested in my nascar hobby and wanted to buy some Daytona gifts for her family (she has 28 cousins). So she hustled some extra cash working at a hotel to earn $500 for 2 weeks work as a housekeeper.

Stupid mistake, but we have paid the heavy price. I can only hope that the Embassy see that this was a silly choice rather than a serious crime. But all my hopes rest on this question.

Otherwise, we have to restart the 130 and try to survive another 3-4 months. Please pray for an honest and professional interview for us.

May God's blessing rest on all of your homes,

-jamie

Well after 302 days we will finally interview for the K3. The Embassy has been too wonderful to us. Dora has a shopping cart full of documents as well as letters from my family addressed to the Ambassador in support of our marriage. The only thing i worry about is something stupid. All i can pray for is an open and honest interview with no game playing. Still though, i can't relax until i see her at the airport.

Im back from Hungary only 7 hours, but my Dad (who had been calling NVC every evening when i was in Hungary), discovered that they passed it on Friday 2/22.

So after 3weeks and 2 days after NOA2, our case is bound for the Embassy in Budapest via DHL. They may recieve it by Wednesday, then call Dora and set up the interview. Some of you may have known that the Bp Embassy has been wonderful. All Dora has to do is wait for the Embassy to call her next week and schedule the interview, and pay the $131 for the K3 visa. She could be here as soon as 2 weeks as long as their interview schedule is not to backed up.

This made for a wonderful departure in the airport yesterday. No tears. We just said, "see you soon!". As for those of you who were delayed like i was, trust me; After NOA2, all the bitter feelings of the process go away. Check out our buddy GOGO's post on how hard it was for him, 310 days to NOA2. But now he and his wife are in bliss, like Dora and I. Yes, the process sucks, but we are stronger.

-jamie

Gogo,

Sorry about the PM, i did not realized that you had posted the news. YOU GUYS DID IT!!!!!!! God bless you both and give big hugs for Mom and Dad. What a wonderful thing for them to do!!!!!!!!!!!

-jamie

GOGO,

Did i read you correct, interivew APPROVED! Hell yeah bro, that is BEAUTIFUL NEWS!!!! I am just behind you at about 290 days. Do you have any travel plans yet, or are you still in shock? For us, our buddy at the Embassy call see our case on their computers and they expect to get the K3 from them by the end of next week. Since packet 3 and 4 are basically finished, they will call Dora simply with an interview date. They said that the begining of the month they are usually busy processing Visa Lottery cases but would try to sqeeze her in.

-jamie

yes, 1 more day for me.. 1 day and 3 minutes ... I am very nervous inside.. but my parents did tell me whatever happens will happen.. either way (living in US or China) will be determined.. but I'm just afraid I didn't put up enough of a fight to bring her here.. It would have been wonderful if she can move here.. I actually don't feel there would be a good outcome (if there was, there should have been already)... they are just going to keep asking difficult questions to me, in spite of my evidence..

did you see today's news?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/0...y.deported.kpnx

they are mean

Congrats Jamie & Dora... yay!! Soon you guys would be together!! That would be so wonderful!!! YAY!!!!

Gogo,

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT. I can only imagine you are not sleeping tonight. GO AND GET YOUR LOVE! I have already prayed for you tonight. And i will pray again prior to me sleeping. GET HER MY FRIEND!!

Bless You,

jamie

Kris,

Not only are my fingers crossed for you and Suzie, but my hands are also together in prayer. I have had the great pleasure of meeting her and you guys will have so many joy filled days. Dora and I wish you only joy and peace.

-jamie

Sorry, but that's my take. The wait is difficult but based on their timeline, how that alone could break up an otherwise healthy couple is beyond me. So I would put my money on something else and that USCIS is being made the scapegoat. I've seen enough LDRs faulter because of third parties to be skeptical especially when they haven't been married for that long. And if he's giving USCIS as the reason, I would be skeptical. I think the poster should consider alternative explanations for her situation. I think he's full of it.

MsZ,

Forgive me for my take. I know Christine far more than you. Furthermore, her relations with her husband predate my ralations with my wife by 4 years. I dont expect you to know these things, but i hope in the future you might consider that all of these stories of these members are personal and sensitive to all of us. As a member of this sight far longer than i, i would expect more sensitivity to tragedy from you.

I ask you, before you posted, did your read her profile, did you read her posts, did you try to learn about the topic prior to YOUR post?

To this I challenge you. Still, in my opinion your fired off a quick online post to something quite terrible. AGAIN i challenge you to examine yourself as to your post. And I challenge anyone reading, if you feel you must fire off a quick post to anyone who posts difficult news, please do so with kindness and not judgement. There is nothing wrong with inqiry, but there is something wrong with pre judgment. If you have reason to inquire harshly, then do so by PM.

I DO wish you peace, but my heart is still bleeding for Christine, and hence from that comes my dissapointment at your post. Can you not from her simple post see pain???? Every other post but yours sees the pain as clear as the noon day sun,

jamie

P.s. I hope you dont see the world like your post.

Looking at your timeline, I find it hard to believe that he would blame any problems on USCIS. I have to think it is a cop-out.

MsZ,

I dont know you at all, but blast you for sending such an insensitive and judgmental post.

signed,

jamie d. woyton

Just before my lovely father in law left to let Dora and i have a night together, we checked my emails. My Mom and Dad have been calling NVC everyday checking for reciept since I left. And 3 weeks to the day after USCIS approval, BOOM, NVC has it. Now our buddy in the Embassy will start calling NVC tomorrow asking for the case. I return home this Saturday night, but at least I know that my blessed Dora shall be coming soon after.

Thank you so much for your support Sukiek, her wonderful husband Kris, Edp33 and my dear Christine. Amazing!

Sorry to not respond for some hours, Dora and i are going to celebrate another hurdle. I must say that i assume she will clear it higher than I. Im almost 40, she is 32. Oh the things we do for love.

-jamie

Oh Dearest Christine,

I am devestated to hear this news. I can only imagine your sorrow. Furthermore i feel terribly guilty as i am visiting Dora in Hungary this week and our journey should soon be over.

Please im me if you feel up to it. Eirhter way, ill try to reach you.

Your Buddy,

jamie

Hi Everyone,

Day 4 in Hungary with Dora. We spent 2 wonderful nights at a spa hotel on Lake Balaton, i had never done the spa-sauna-steam room-walk on rocks deal. Now we are back in the country at her fathers farm, just laying around.

The great news is that the Embassy is still wonderful. The IV unit knows us well, so when i checked in she alredy had a file on us (even though NVC has not sent them our case.) They collected Doras medical, police check, my 2006 tax return and other documents. She gave us the visa application for the K3 (only 131 dollars). She also gave Dora a blank interview letter, so as soon as the Embassy gets our case, she will find the earliest interview date, call Dora on her cell and have her write it on the form.

Peace to you all for i am in heaven with my wife,

-jamie

If your wife got the Erkolcsi Bizonyitvany (Police Record) that costs 2200 forints and was requested by paying for it at the Post Office, it is not the correct one. She must go personally to the Varkapu u. 30/A address and make the request personally. Not sure exactly what the difference is but it is this that is required for US visas.

Yes, the "free" one is what she got. My lawyer emailed the whole thing to us, and like you, Dora got it the same day. I wish you well and bon voyage!

-jamie

Well after 9 months since I last saw Dora, i depart tomorrow to spend 8 days with her. We finally got our NOA2 with congressional help 2 weeks ago and even though NVC still does not "see" the case, i know we are in the end game.

Again, when i arrive i will check in at the Embassy and meet our "friends" there again. Two weeks ago she got her police report and today Dora finished her medical so we are just waiting for them. I will arrive with all my phone bills, my debit card with her name on it and numerous documents that will make it sure she will need a shopping cart to get everything to the interview when it happens.

But i have to tell you, all i look forward to is doing NOTHING with my princess bride. After this week of medicals, she is exhausted, i am exhausted with work preparing to leave for 6 work days. So we plan to just relax for the first 2 days, then go to her fathers house in the country and i will help him with the pigs and chickens. Her father is a beautiful man. When i was taking pictures of when i remodeled the master bedroom and bathroom for Dora, in the pictures her father was amazed at the tools i was using. SO, he will get a killer tool when i arrive!!

Even though we have no common language, my relationship with her father is so wonderful. He is such a beautiful man. Last year, i asked Dora to translate in Hungarian my intentions to marry his daughter. I went to him with a piece of paper and read these foreign words to him. I tried to read them clearly, but he rushed to me and kissed me on the cheek. I will never forget that moment, but soon i will see my father-in-law again.

May the Lord bless you all,

jamie

P.s. Thanks SuzieK for your wonderful support. We love you and Kris so much.

Wow,

It seems that we have similar timelines for our cases. I contacted my Senators "constituent services" part of the website and they got things rolling after i passed the 7 month mark of our 130. PUSH PUSH PUSH.

God Bless you both!

jamie

Why did they deny? What the heck happened?

Hmmm. 2 weeks ago my case worker with me Senator said "my contact with NVC's congressional unit say we have the case", still when i call NVC they cannot find my case. But 2 weeks may be a bit much to ask.

All i know is that 2/14 i fly to visit Dora for 1 week. I booked the flight long before the NOA2 but was scared i would see her cry in the airport upon my departure again. That fear has been greatly diminished since the NOA2. So now, when i depart it will be more of a "see you soon", than "goodbye????".

My children have all made Valentine's cards for Dora and I am so touched because they did it on their own. Dora already calls them "my babies". We are so excited to see eachother again and just do NOTHING for 1 week.

I love you all,

jamie

Hi VJ'ers,

I finally got my VJ account fixed so i can post (thanks to Suzie). We had a geat time on the show. After the show I spoke w/ the engineer and host Eric and we plan to do future shows, ESPECIALLY when Dora arrives. Hopefully we can show the listeners that even though everyone WANTS legal immigration they have no idea how difficult a choice it is to make. My question to exlplore on future shows is "WHY IS LEGAL IMMIGRATION SUCH A DIFFICULT ROUTE TO CHOSE? SHOULD IT NOT BE AN ATTRACTIVE CHOICE?" Anyway, i wish the Peace of the Lord to all of you. Who knows what can happen?

jamie