lillywight

I realize I can't make Nicky's decisions for her. I just want her to know the truth before she makes her decision. Corey's still lying and she's believing him. I realize that's her choice too.

I'm glad I posted openly what was going on. I'm sure Nicky's reading too -- and I'm thankful that everybody put their two cents in (whether or not they felt she should go ahead with the marriage or not).

As long as she knows the truth when she makes her decision, I'll feel confident that I did what I should've done. The rest is on her.

Co-sign that love is a powerful thing!!!

Jomo's Girl . . . I've shared with you my concerns about "other women" on the island. Some funky things occurred my last trip . . . but Corey's a real smooth/sweet talker and an artist at not answering questions directly.

Funny thing. I had an epiphany last night while sitting on my couch "pretending" to watch TV with my daughters. I'd been praying a lot in the past few weeks -- praying out loud in my bed at night . . . asking God to give me strength to make the right decision with regard to my relationship with Corey (because of the mounting doubts I was having). I asked that if he couldn't give me the strength to make the appropriate decision -- that he provide me with a steadfast path to walk . . . that would bring me to the appropriate resolution. God is an awesome God.

In my opinion, Lilly wants to show the world what he is.

If something similar happened to me, this would be the TIP of the iceberg.

I don't blame her, apart from mentioning where Nicky lives if that's something that Nicky hasn't put out there.

Can't see why Lilly SHOULDN'T post it if it's true.

I agree JaEnglish. Lilly welcome to the board and I'm sorry that you're going thru this - my prayers go out to you, as well as you Nicky.

yup....i think this happens a lot...and i really would want someone to tell me if they knew my man....and this is one of the down sides for going through this process

What bothers me is that ppl are getting upset with Lilly because she posted here, but the culprit is the "man" they both share. Why is none of the blame on him? He's the one deceiving both women (and probably even more women none of us know about). It's a shame...

no i dont think u all are getting where my anger is coming from with this please re read what i said its wrong what happen to them both however, all that was stated in this post by lilly was ALREADY SPOKEN TO WITH NICKY EVERYTHING this woman talk to nicky and they both shared their stories so what has me upset is that she joined this site to air what they spoke of PERSONALLY what is the purpose if u have already done this with nikki ????someone i need help in understa nding that this is ok

so please tell me now if i was seein ur man and we both found out we shared the same fiance etc....and me and you talk abt it in private off and on all day....then i go join the site u frequent, air it all and you havent, detail for detail and splash a foto and links to blogs etccc...how would u feel. you have to look at it that way as welll what would be the purpose now if someone can get me to understand that then maybe i can begin to see it a different way seriously im open to seein it in a different light but based on facts presented i cant right now woman to woman i would not have put her on blast like that if she had not even come to this thread to express what happen on her own i question her motives on this post

U ain't never lied!!!!!! I commend lily for approaching the situation but it seems to me that she feels like the better person because she obviously wasn't as deep into it as Nicky is. But, then I also see it as being great because now we all get to see what this ####### looks like and forewarn others if anyone has pursued him now on in the near future. Believe me, these two are not the only ones. I have been in this situation before (not paper filing) with a gigalo from JA and wished that I had his picture to post on here so that i could let everyone know. His name is ASTON BROOKS aka TONY who hangs out in Montego Bay Margaritaville and does not know how to read or write ( how are you a gigalo and can't read and write?) and has a scar on his face (forehead to nose) I can laugh at it now but I was messed up bad when I found out. I had sent money because of the sad stories and all types of stuff. But, Karma is great and i know it will come back to him. He had women from all over but had his main squeeze back in JA with him and she is the one who called me. You can never be too careful with these types of relationship because all many of them see is the "papers". Not to say that they aren't in love also but believe me traveling is just as important to them. I told my fiance....I don't have a problem helping you out with papers but please don't let that be all its about. I mean we talked (and still talk) about this daily. Communication is key.

And, be mindful of that whole super privacy thing coming from your SO. Some people are truly private but we just have to be careful. My SO just asked me tonight why I didn't put our pic up but I told him i didn't know how to and if he would be okay with that. He doesn't have a prob with it.

Nicky i'm sorry about your pain right now and I don't know if you are up to listening but its not worth it. I would save myself from the stress and pain in the future. Even if he convinces you that he will change, you will always be thinking about it and the trust is just not going to be there like it was. You will find someone who is much more deserving of you. I'm glad it blew up in his face because you just don't treat people like that. Mind em come up and tun handicap or some sometin. Not wishing that on him but he is doing anything to get here and thats not fair to you or any of the other women.

This is absolutely not true. Lilly was in love with this guy. They discussed a future together. They were discussing and preparing for the visa process. She spent tons of money on trips, on phone calls, on gifts. Lilly was just as vested in the relationship. Maybe she didn't actually file for the visa or prepare for a wedding by sending out invitations (have we not all been warned not to do that before the visa is in hand anyhow?); but Lilly was just as deep into the relationship as Nicky was. Lilly's only triumph thus far has been that she immediately saw he was unworthy of her and dumped him.

Hey folks . . . me again. I met Corey at a street party and he pursued ME. I went for a walk on the beach with him the first night and I was charmed instantly. The following 3 evenings -- we spent together. The second evening together, Corey told me that he had "found love" . . . I kinda laughed, but . . . I felt the same way. We were so in sync with each other. When I left, we both said "I love you". I returned a month later for a weekend . . . to make sure (for myself) that it wasn't just a crazy island thang going on! He and I spent 48 hours basking in glory together (need I say more?). He took me to work and introduced me to his boss, co-workers, friends as his "lady". It was on that trip that we decided what we wanted for our future (although we had already talked about it before I left from the first trip.)

Yes . . . I fell in love with Corey . . . totally -- and I don't have any regrets about that. I wanted to file for a Visa right away -- but I have twin teenage daughters, and I knew that any decision I made would impact them considerably . . . so unlike the usual me, I became "rational" in my endeavors and decided that it was important to wait a full year from when we met to file for the Visa. In the meantime, Corey indicated that he was trying to come over on a Work Visa to be with me . . . and then on a couple of occasions, we talked about NOT waiting -- and filing . . .

Are you catching my drift? I don't feel that I'm BETTER than Nicky at all. I just feel luckier than her, because I had the benefit of "time" to find out who Corey really is! When I confronted him . . . he said "I love you both. I didn't expect this to go this far. It's all my fault." But -- he never apologized for any of it . . .

Currently, I'm respecting the healing process. I've stopped trying to find a logical rational reason "why" he did what he did . . . and I'm just trying to put it all in perspective.

I think the situation is being address by some of the members "harshly" not b/c they don't want to hear the negatives about relationships but rather the manner it was said. Everyone needs to deal with their own personal issues unless they want to share it. Lilly can say whatever she wants it's her right and she was a victim in this situation, but did she have to call out Nikky the way she did? does Nikky know she was going to mention her name when she posted ? I am not blaming any of these women but the NASTY boy cause he's no man that has been playing with their emotions and future. If this were me I would not feel the need to involve Nikky in my comments unless I wanted to pour salt on the wound..IN MY OPINION ! Who's place is it to try and convince Nikky to get out of the relationship ? She's gonna do what she wants and by the grace of God she will do what is right for her. God doesn't like ugly and he (the boy) will get what is coming to him

I agree. I wonder if Nikky knows her business is out there....

I see what you are saying. Should she have called out Nicky? Probably not but I don't think it was done maliciously...more of a cry for help from those who know Nicky to help her through this time. She could have got her point across without naming names...but I don't think it was to hurt Nicky in anyway or "pour salt on the wound". Just my take on the situation.

Please. This was not a "pour salt on the wound" thing against Nicky. I spoke with her several times and Corey has her so messed up she doesn't know which end is up. Would you? She wants to believe him. She loves him. I know he's lying and I have proof of it. He's STILL lying!!!!

My intention was to obtain support for Nicky . . . guidance . . . a presence for her so that she could make the decisions she needs to make -- and that she would know that all of you would be there for her. Cripes! I'll even be there for her is she does actually decide to marry him. I will always be willing to talk to her and help her through her trials and tribulations with him. Not because I care about him . . . but because I care about WOMEN . . . and I feel that we should have a sisterhood of love, respect, and caring.

I'm leaving work to go home and get my thoughts and emotions in check. I need to get my head right. Peace and blessings . . .

I appreciate everybody's views and opinions on what you'd do differently or even the same . . . but until this is laid at your feet (like it was mine), you cannot say with certainty what you would or wouldn't do.

If you knew me . . . you would know that I don't create adversity -- that I despise it . . . and I also loathe people with a lack of integrity.

I hope that none of you have to experience what I've gone through in the past 24 hours ever in your lives. But, what God brings you to, he will bring you through. And -- you teach others how you want to be treated. (I hope you read this, Nicky.)

Thanks, Jomo's Girl.

Very, very emotional past 24 hours.

I'm not a hero . . . I'm a victim -- just like Nicky. And . . . I agree that I've done what I could and said what I could say . . . and I'll leave the rest up to a higher power (and that certainly isn't me).

My prayer is for Nicky. May God bless you with only good things. I will be here for you, Nicky . . . now or ten years from now.

Peace. I'm out.

DID U REALLY HAVE TO POST THIS IT IS OUT OF ORDER! OUT OF CONTROL! COULD YOU NOT HAVE LEFT THAT TO A PERSONAL MESSAGE WITH NICKY WE ALL DO NOT NEED TO SEE YOUR BUSINESS THIS IS HURTFUL AND I BELIEVE UR PURPOSLEY TRYIN TO RUB THIS IN AND WHY ARE U EVEN TELLING WHERE NICKY LIVES YOUR A MAD OOMAN

Wow!!!! Jalove I completely agree with you. Nicky I am so sorry you are going through this, you are in my prayers!!! I know I'm new to this but we are all here for you.

Remember ... sometimes when in pain...we do things that don't make sense. I know I have in pain sent out crazy letters to friends and family members telling all my sh** because I wanted to hurt HIM but ultimatly it just made me look foolish. Just remember all both women (if not more) are in pain and probably are just looking for support.

im wondering why lily would join VJ today just to air this business and tell nicky business is what upset me why today? why not give nicky a chance to have aired her business on a site that she frequents daily or keep the most personal details in a PM noone need know where nicky live or that his son is coming then to say give nicky love and support? did nicky vent her issue on here to ask for love and support she didnt post abt this or was even given the opportunity hence her statement of He's telling her that we were just friends, LOL. I have photos, text messages, etc. I've shared it all with Nicky -- but she's in a quandary as to what she should i just feel it a little bit much

OK...time for me to step in on this issue.

I told Lilly and Nicky what I figured out yesterday. And, yes, Marlita, it was because of you posting her pictures that I figured it out. I know Lilly from a couple of other sites and she had posted many pictures of Corey, in the exact same shirt he was wearing in one of those pictures yesterday. I did some research on some previous postings here and there and then I went to the ladies via PM's and told them what I thought. I sent each to the respective websites to verify for themselves. Turns out, I was right. They ended up wanting to talk to one another and after asking permission from both, I gave each the other's information. From there, they are working this triangle out.

Nicky is in denial. She's invested much time, energy, emotions, and money into this relationship and she doesn't see a clear cut answer on what to do. Lilly dumped Corey immediately. I believe Lilly's post was a way of working through her feelings. She loved this guy. If you would read some of her posts, she really loved him. And, he talked words of love and of building a future right back at her. They even discussed LIlly filing a visa for him. She asked me where to start a few months ago. To add insult to injury, Nicky and he were already engaged when Lilly met Corey. She was duped from the very beginning. Anyhow, I believe her posts are her way of trying to get over Corey and this situation. And, a way to show Nicky that he did this to her too......he carried on while Nicky filed for a visa for him and talked about their wedding and their lives together. She really wants Nicky to think about what she is still contemplating. Believe it or not, Lilly took an automatic liking to Nicky and her maternal instincts kicked in. She doesn't want to see her hurt again now or in the future.

Sometimes you have to do bold things to get the point across. That's all that was. Lilly cares enough to want to shock her into really thinking about it. And talking on the phone to her did not seem to be getting this point across.

One last thought for you, Nicky, if you are reading this......if there were two of you and all his family and friends were involved.........how many more could there be out there? Think about it.

Nicky......tune out the thoughts of money and pride and really, REALLY think about this. Please.

That is excatly the kind of person Shawn was telling everyone about last week, I don't know the man and don't want to be too harsh, but I'm wondering right now what his girlfriend in Jamaica would think about all of this. He seem to really like talking about the future to together with ladies he meets, he should have been married by now if he is that much the marrying type, there are women in Jamaica you know, but the thing about jamaican women is that they really don't marry bums.

The only thing this man loves are his sneakers and Jeans, and you can toss in a gold chain here and there. I see visa all over this one. Kick him to the curb Nicky, you can do better, but that is only my opinion.

I've shared my concerns with Nicky about my hunch that there are local women he is involved with -- and I gave her specific reasons why I thought what I thought. She can choose to ignore them if she wants, but the signs are there. The hair had been up on the back of my neck since my visit in August and I was desperately seeking the truth. I can handle anything as long as it's the truth. And, handle this . . . I will. I'm writing a letter to the Embassy with PROOF of my relationship with this man. Although it may not fall into the right hands in time for their interview, I pray that God will see fit to keep this bum in his own country . . . and that he stops preying on American women in search of a Visa. Believe me, Corey's very sweet, soft-spoken, and suave . . . almost innocent and naive acting. He could win over a charlatan with his childish good-looks and romantic swooning.

Silly me. I fell too -- and I'm a grown woman. But, knowing what I know now about him, I can walk away without hesitancy.

I know you have been hurt and the man is a liar but you have NO BUSINESS writing the embassy, I want Nicky to leave the man too but it's no one's business if she decide to stay with him. You are taking this a little to far. I know what went down is kinda crazy but your posts are becoming a little bit overbearing.

I appreciate the opinions expressed that I shouldn't write the Embassy . . . and hopefully, when my hurt and anger subside, I'll agree that it's inappropriate. Right now, I'm not in that space.

This man has devastated me, my teenage daughters, my family . . . and we didn't deserve any of it. Why should he walk scott free for his indiscretions? Why should he be allowed to prosper? And . . . his winfall, is Nicky's downfall.

I won't act in an emotional manner. I will give this much thought and consideration. Right now, I'm having a hard time telling what time it is. It's hard when somebody pulls the rug out from underneath you and you're left to deal with it.

DID U REALLY HAVE TO POST THIS IT IS OUT OF ORDER! OUT OF CONTROL! COULD YOU NOT HAVE LEFT THAT TO A PERSONAL MESSAGE WITH NICKY WE ALL DO NOT NEED TO SEE YOUR BUSINESS THIS IS HURTFUL AND I BELIEVE UR PURPOSLEY TRYIN TO RUB THIS IN AND WHY ARE U EVEN TELLING WHERE NICKY LIVES YOUR A MAD OOMAN

Wow!!!! Jalove I completely agree with you. Nicky I am so sorry you are going through this, you are in my prayers!!! I know I'm new to this but we are all here for you.

Remember ... sometimes when in pain...we do things that don't make sense. I know I have in pain sent out crazy letters to friends and family members telling all my sh** because I wanted to hurt HIM but ultimatly it just made me look foolish. Just remember all both women (if not more) are in pain and probably are just looking for support.

im wondering why lily would join VJ today just to air this business and tell nicky business is what upset me why today? why not give nicky a chance to have aired her business on a site that she frequents daily or keep the most personal details in a PM noone need know where nicky live or that his son is coming then to say give nicky love and support? did nicky vent her issue on here to ask for love and support she didnt post abt this or was even given the opportunity hence her statement of He's telling her that we were just friends, LOL. I have photos, text messages, etc. I've shared it all with Nicky -- but she's in a quandary as to what she should i just feel it a little bit much

OK...time for me to step in on this issue.

I told Lilly and Nicky what I figured out yesterday. And, yes, Marlita, it was because of you posting her pictures that I figured it out. I know Lilly from a couple of other sites and she had posted many pictures of Corey, in the exact same shirt he was wearing in one of those pictures yesterday. I did some research on some previous postings here and there and then I went to the ladies via PM's and told them what I thought. I sent each to the respective websites to verify for themselves. Turns out, I was right. They ended up wanting to talk to one another and after asking permission from both, I gave each the other's information. From there, they are working this triangle out.

Nicky is in denial. She's invested much time, energy, emotions, and money into this relationship and she doesn't see a clear cut answer on what to do. Lilly dumped Corey immediately. I believe Lilly's post was a way of working through her feelings. She loved this guy. If you would read some of her posts, she really loved him. And, he talked words of love and of building a future right back at her. They even discussed LIlly filing a visa for him. She asked me where to start a few months ago. To add insult to injury, Nicky and he were already engaged when Lilly met Corey. She was duped from the very beginning. Anyhow, I believe her posts are her way of trying to get over Corey and this situation. And, a way to show Nicky that he did this to her too......he carried on while Nicky filed for a visa for him and talked about their wedding and their lives together. She really wants Nicky to think about what she is still contemplating. Believe it or not, Lilly took an automatic liking to Nicky and her maternal instincts kicked in. She doesn't want to see her hurt again now or in the future.

Sometimes you have to do bold things to get the point across. That's all that was. Lilly cares enough to want to shock her into really thinking about it. And talking on the phone to her did not seem to be getting this point across.

One last thought for you, Nicky, if you are reading this......if there were two of you and all his family and friends were involved.........how many more could there be out there? Think about it.

Nicky......tune out the thoughts of money and pride and really, REALLY think about this. Please.

That is excatly the kind of person Shawn was telling everyone about last week, I don't know the man and don't want to be too harsh, but I'm wondering right now what his girlfriend in Jamaica would think about all of this. He seem to really like talking about the future to together with ladies he meets, he should have been married by now if he is that much the marrying type, there are women in Jamaica you know, but the thing about jamaican women is that they really don't marry bums.

The only thing this man loves are his sneakers and Jeans, and you can toss in a gold chain here and there. I see visa all over this one. Kick him to the curb Nicky, you can do better, but that is only my opinion.

I've shared my concerns with Nicky about my hunch that there are local women he is involved with -- and I gave her specific reasons why I thought what I thought. She can choose to ignore them if she wants, but the signs are there. The hair had been up on the back of my neck since my visit in August and I was desperately seeking the truth. I can handle anything as long as it's the truth. And, handle this . . . I will. I'm writing a letter to the Embassy with PROOF of my relationship with this man. Although it may not fall into the right hands in time for their interview, I pray that God will see fit to keep this bum in his own country . . . and that he stops preying on American women in search of a Visa. Believe me, Corey's very sweet, soft-spoken, and suave . . . almost innocent and naive acting. He could win over a charlatan with his childish good-looks and romantic swooning.

Silly me. I fell too -- and I'm a grown woman. But, knowing what I know now about him, I can walk away without hesitancy.

I appreciate all of the posts and opinions about my post last night. I can understand how everybody feels and respect all of the responses.

No . . . I'm not a mean vindictive woman trying to hold on to this good-for-nothing man. I've been through this a time or two in my lifetime and I'm sick to death of men getting over on women. I have no issues letting go of the relationship. I can walk away with my head held high because I did nothing wrong.

My concern actually is for Nicky. She's gonna marry this cheating, lying man . . . and he will then be her cheating, lying husband!!! He will do this to her again . . . and again . . . and again. Infidelity is a disease. Some people have it and some people don't. Corey obviously HAS IT. I have reason to believe that there are "other women" ... and have had some friends in Ocho trying to find out for me for the past couple of months . . . (yes, I shared that with Nicky too).

Nicky and I spoke several times yesterday, and it was abundantly clear to me that she's believing Corey . . . and that she will continue her plans for the wedding . . . a wedding she's funded for a man she's supporting who she bought a Visa for. Her response . . . "I don't know what to do. I've already sent out the invitations!" Come on. You don't know what to do??? Have some self respect and love for yourself!!!

I would become a celibate monk if I could just get Nicky to open her eyes and SEE what the real deal is. Corey only wants a free ride and he will do whatever it takes to get one. Nicky is a wonderful woman with a big heart -- and Corey's taking advantage of it . . . People! His whole entire family KNEW there were 2 of us being played for a Visa!!! It's a coup for them! Money from the U.S.!!!!

Why did I "wait" until last night to post? I only found out yesterday afternoon about this situation and was directed here by a friend who wanted me to know that I too was being played.

Oh -- and by the way, Nicky's profile does indicate where she lives. I did not divulge anything she hasn't.

It's clear that Nicky's gonna do what Nicky's gonna do . . . but I would HOPE that her friends on this Board would love and care about her enough to help her see what's really going on here -- and the destruction to her life that's so very imminent -- financially and emotionally. I tried several times to talk to her yesterday, but she's only hearing what she wants to hear.

If you don't believe me about the relationship, all of my trip reports about my relationship with Corey are on toesindasand.com. They are entitled Bullet, Bullet, Connect , Where the River Meets the Beach , and A week at the Cottage. I am holding a ticket to return to Ocho to spend Corey's birthday with him on 12/2. Obviously, he hadn't received his interview date when I bought it . . . so he was STILL continuing the game on both of us!

I'm not ashamed for calling a spade a spade. I don't know Nicky . . . but I will do whatever I can to keep her from being used any further. If she, ultimately, makes the choice to marry him . . . so be it. I will at least know that I tried to give her all the information about this man that I could (and ALL of it is supported . . . I read text messages to Nicky that he sent me and she had the SAME ONES!). If Corey and his son come to Orlando, I will never become involved with their lives -- ever. Right now . . . my only mission is to save another woman from making a horrible mistake -- and I truly feel that marrying Corey would be devastating to Nicky's life.

This is ugly . . . ugly for her and for me . . . and for our families. We are all hurting. However, it's really a reflection on Corey himself. This could've been anybody on this Board!!! Wouldn't you want to know ALL the facts before you made a decision to marry somebody like this?????

Oh, Lilly, Thank you. After being in the middle of it all day yesterday, and hearing Nicky's reaction, I begged Lilly to plead with her to really think this through. I agree with Lilly's post above 100%. And, yes, if anyone knew anything about my husband, I would want to know. And, if I didn't really think it through, I'd want them to engage others in their cause.........whatever it took.

Not bashing, Nicky. Love is powerful thing and I can see she really loves him. But, to allow him to get away with this will only make him think anything he ever does is going to be okay and forgiven. He disrespected you, girl. Don't you do it to yourself too.

I had decided to walk away from it all . . . heal myself and go on. I'm a strong, independent women and I knew in time, I'd be okay. But, it was Jomo's Girl's pleading to me that made me realize that it wasn't "all about me" . . . it was about Nicky too. I'm sorry that both she and I are going through this. I would give anything for it not to be true . . . but it is true and we both have to deal with it.

StaySweet . . . I love you so very much, Girl. Thanks for being there for me -- you never fail me. Every romantic word, text message, situation I've shared with you. Do you remember laughing and saying that Corey just may be SO SLICK that he doesn't come across as slick? Guess that's not so funny now . . . because that's exactly what was going on.

Jomo's Girl . . . thanks for the love and support. You are exactly correct! Nicky's looking for some little piece of "hope" about Corey's core personality to keep him and marry him. Love is a strong emotion . . . as if pride, and my fear is that Nicky is not strong enough to walk away. I'm hurting so very badly . . . but I hurt even more to think that Nicky is hurting. She didn't deserve this either. She's a beautiful woman with a huge heart and I truly only want what's good for her. I've been down this road before. I married a cheating man when I was 28 years old . . . so I feel like Nicky is ME many, many years ago. After I married him, guess what I had??? A cheating husband!!!!!

I appreciate the private messages and support from you folks. Truth be told, I've been lofting on this site since the day I met Corey on 4/7 . . . but hadn't joined because I hadn't started the process. I would've seen these photos on my own at some point.

I'm not sure what else to say.

I posted what I posted because there's strength in numbers . . . and I feel that women should have each other's backs.

Nicky can decide to believe Corey and marry him. Or, she can open her eyes wide and SEE what kind of a man she's in love with.

I'm glad I found out now. It hasn't been easy and I've spent hour and hours crying . . . and I haven't slept all night . . . but I will be okay in time.

I just want Nicky to be okay -- and not marry a man who's a two-timing (or more) no-good, lying cheat! If she does marry him, a week, a month, a year, ten years later . . . she will be dealing with this same situation all over again.

In my opinion, Lilly wants to show the world what he is.

If something similar happened to me, this would be the TIP of the iceberg.

I don't blame her, apart from mentioning where Nicky lives if that's something that Nicky hasn't put out there.

Can't see why Lilly SHOULDN'T post it if it's true.

Again -- correct! I want everybody to see what Corey (ie., Delvan) is REALLY about! And . . . I want Nicky to think with her HEAD and not her HEART. Corey's very convincing and right now, he's desperately trying to hold onto his Visa.

Believe me, I will fade right back into the woodwork at some point . . . never to bother Nicky and Corey again in their lifetime . . . but right now, I want everybody to have their eyes wide open!

DID U REALLY HAVE TO POST THIS IT IS OUT OF ORDER! OUT OF CONTROL! COULD YOU NOT HAVE LEFT THAT TO A PERSONAL MESSAGE WITH NICKY WE ALL DO NOT NEED TO SEE YOUR BUSINESS THIS IS HURTFUL AND I BELIEVE UR PURPOSLEY TRYIN TO RUB THIS IN AND WHY ARE U EVEN TELLING WHERE NICKY LIVES YOUR A MAD OOMAN

Wow!!!! Jalove I completely agree with you. Nicky I am so sorry you are going through this, you are in my prayers!!! I know I'm new to this but we are all here for you.

Remember ... sometimes when in pain...we do things that don't make sense. I know I have in pain sent out crazy letters to friends and family members telling all my sh** because I wanted to hurt HIM but ultimatly it just made me look foolish. Just remember all both women (if not more) are in pain and probably are just looking for support.

im wondering why lily would join VJ today just to air this business and tell nicky business is what upset me why today? why not give nicky a chance to have aired her business on a site that she frequents daily or keep the most personal details in a PM noone need know where nicky live or that his son is coming then to say give nicky love and support? did nicky vent her issue on here to ask for love and support she didnt post abt this or was even given the opportunity hence her statement of...He's telling her that we were just friends, LOL. I have photos, text messages, etc. I've shared it all with Nicky -- but she's in a quandary as to what she should i just feel it a little bit much

JALOVE - you have a point here

Nicky - Hang in there girl. We're here for support.

Marlita - In my opinion its not your fault. I'm glad I posted my pics up. If anyone recognizes my SO and knows of anything that you feel would be detrimental to our relationship, please, please let me know through a PM, post, anything!

EXACTLY! Know the facts . . . then you can make a decision based on truth versus lies!!!! Respect, Marie.

Hey all ... new to the Board . . . was brought here on an expected "journey" today . . .

Learned that my boyfriend is also Nicky "Salmon's" current fiance'. She last saw him in March. I met him in April and have been back to see him 3 times. He and I have been planning our future together . . . and I'm thankful that I was smart enough to make him wait a year before I filed for a Visa, or I'd be in the same position Nicky is.

I've struggled all day . . . have talked to Nicky several times. He's telling her that we were just friends, LOL. I have photos, text messages, etc. I've shared it all with Nicky -- but she's in a quandary as to what she should do . . .

Give her love and support, folks. Her financial investment over this lying and cheating man is only gonna increase when she brings him and his son over here to Florida and she has to support them for a long time. I say cut your losses now, Girl!

Here's a picture of Corey and I taken in August when I was last there to see him and his family (yes -- they ALL know about me).

Wow.......I am sorry to hear you're going through this.....

I guess this is why SOME men are so 'private' about their relationship.....While it's a matter of personal preference, I must admit I would always have the attitude that if he loves me and is willing to stand before God and man and call me his wife, he should be so much in love he wants to shout it from the rooftops.....

While none of us know you or Nicky, I have seen similar situations happen before and all I can say is it's hard for all parties.

The man will deny one woman and try to convince the other that the one he's denying is making it all up etc etc...The one who he proclaims his love for of course won't want to believe he could be so duplicitous and remains in denial......

Prayers going out to all parties involved.

Prayers definitely needed by all. These are very trying times for us, our families, and our friends who are hurting for us.

I appreciate all of the posts and opinions about my post last night. I can understand how everybody feels and respect all of the responses.

No . . . I'm not a mean vindictive woman trying to hold on to this good-for-nothing man. I've been through this a time or two in my lifetime and I'm sick to death of men getting over on women. I have no issues letting go of the relationship. I can walk away with my head held high because I did nothing wrong.

My concern actually is for Nicky. She's gonna marry this cheating, lying man . . . and he will then be her cheating, lying husband!!! He will do this to her again . . . and again . . . and again. Infidelity is a disease. Some people have it and some people don't. Corey obviously HAS IT. I have reason to believe that there are "other women" ... and have had some friends in Ocho trying to find out for me for the past couple of months . . . (yes, I shared that with Nicky too).

Nicky and I spoke several times yesterday, and it was abundantly clear to me that she's believing Corey . . . and that she will continue her plans for the wedding . . . a wedding she's funded for a man she's supporting who she bought a Visa for. Her response . . . "I don't know what to do. I've already sent out the invitations!" Come on. You don't know what to do??? Have some self respect and love for yourself!!!

I would become a celibate monk if I could just get Nicky to open her eyes and SEE what the real deal is. Corey only wants a free ride and he will do whatever it takes to get one. Nicky is a wonderful woman with a big heart -- and Corey's taking advantage of it . . . People! His whole entire family KNEW there were 2 of us being played for a Visa!!! It's a coup for them! Money from the U.S.!!!!

Why did I "wait" until last night to post? I only found out yesterday afternoon about this situation and was directed here by a friend who wanted me to know that I too was being played.

Oh -- and by the way, Nicky's profile does indicate where she lives. I did not divulge anything she hasn't.

It's clear that Nicky's gonna do what Nicky's gonna do . . . but I would HOPE that her friends on this Board would love and care about her enough to help her see what's really going on here -- and the destruction to her life that's so very imminent -- financially and emotionally. I tried several times to talk to her yesterday, but she's only hearing what she wants to hear.

If you don't believe me about the relationship, all of my trip reports about my relationship with Corey are on toesindasand.com. They are entitled Bullet, Bullet, Connect , Where the River Meets the Beach , and A week at the Cottage. I am holding a ticket to return to Ocho to spend Corey's birthday with him on 12/2. Obviously, he hadn't received his interview date when I bought it . . . so he was STILL continuing the game on both of us!

I'm not ashamed for calling a spade a spade. I don't know Nicky . . . but I will do whatever I can to keep her from being used any further. If she, ultimately, makes the choice to marry him . . . so be it. I will at least know that I tried to give her all the information about this man that I could (and ALL of it is supported . . . I read text messages to Nicky that he sent me and she had the SAME ONES!). If Corey and his son come to Orlando, I will never become involved with their lives -- ever. Right now . . . my only mission is to save another woman from making a horrible mistake -- and I truly feel that marrying Corey would be devastating to Nicky's life.

This is ugly . . . ugly for her and for me . . . and for our families. We are all hurting. However, it's really a reflection on Corey himself. This could've been anybody on this Board!!! Wouldn't you want to know ALL the facts before you made a decision to marry somebody like this?????

Hey all ... new to the Board . . . was brought here on an expected "journey" today . . .

Learned that my boyfriend is also Nicky "Salmon's" current fiance'. She last saw him in March. I met him in April and have been back to see him 3 times. He and I have been planning our future together . . . and I'm thankful that I was smart enough to make him wait a year before I filed for a Visa, or I'd be in the same position Nicky is.

I've struggled all day . . . have talked to Nicky several times. He's telling her that we were just friends, LOL. I have photos, text messages, etc. I've shared it all with Nicky -- but she's in a quandary as to what she should do . . .

Give her love and support, folks. Her financial investment over this lying and cheating man is only gonna increase when she brings him and his son over here to Florida and she has to support them for a long time. I say cut your losses now, Girl!

Here's a picture of Corey and I taken in August when I was last there to see him and his family (yes -- they ALL know about me).

Oh yeah -- funny thing. Always remember folks that "it's a small world". Nicky lives in Orlando ... and SO DO I.

Hey all ... new to the Board . . . was brought here on an expected "journey" today . . .

Learned that my boyfriend is also Nicky "Salmon's" current fiance'. She last saw him in March. I met him in April and have been back to see him 3 times. He and I have been planning our future together . . . and I'm thankful that I was smart enough to make him wait a year before I filed for a Visa, or I'd be in the same position Nicky is.

I've struggled all day . . . have talked to Nicky several times. He's telling her that we were just friends, LOL. I have photos, text messages, etc. I've shared it all with Nicky -- but she's in a quandary as to what she should do . . .

Give her love and support, folks. Her financial investment over this lying and cheating man is only gonna increase when she brings him and his son over here to Florida and she has to support them for a long time. I say cut your losses now, Girl!

Here's a picture of Corey and I taken in August when I was last there to see him and his family (yes -- they ALL know about me).