cdaz

-Went to the interview, got there early 45mins, and there was already a line. Got called to the window to review the documents and recieved some back, they were additional tax docs from years before 2006, waited for about an hour while others had their turn, got called to meet the consular, interview was relaxed, mostly questions about how we met?, If my wife had any trouble with immigration in the past, if she had travelled to the states and why, when we were married, what were our plans when we got there, where my parents lived, where were we gonna live, we she hadn't used her tourist visa more than once...it really took about twenty minutes and our visa was approved!

-Had to come back the next day to pick-up passport with visa but there was a problem, so since it was a friday had to wait the entire weekend and picked it up today!

Were are very happy with the out come and it really has been a fun and hard journey, again thanks to all of those who took their time to review the Q's I asked and answered them....

cdaz

Hey all,

first of all let me thank all the members who helped us get to were we are by just answering questions and sharing experiences! I would loke to share what happened to us, so maybe someone else may use the information. We are DCF in Honduras. I'm a USC my wife is immigrating. Began gathering info. in January 2007.

-We filed the I-130 with all the supporting documents in late March.( picked-up the form in January)

-Received the notice NOA2 in mid June (never got the NOA1)

-Went to the embassy and picked-up the information packet for the instructions on how to prepare for the interview and what documents would be needed.(also did this in January as part of info. gathering)

-Began working on gathering documents in July such as: Tax transcripts (mine and my parents) 2006 1040's and W-2's, I did not qualify for tax returns since I am employed in Honduras, but I did file 2004-2006 taxes late, because I did not know I had to file. Proof of my parents residence in the US, proof of their employment (employment letters), pay stubs, also got proof of emploment for myself, wrote two letters to the consular stating that my stay in Honduras was temporary and how I met my wife,and that we will be traveling together and that my employer was notified of my unofficial resignation, another stating why I was exempt from receiving tax returns (had to file the 2555's), my wife's and my personal documents such as, birth certificates literal form, same for marriage certf., correct passports, passport pictures, medical exams, DS230 I&II, police report, my I864 and my parents, copies of my parents identification, and evidence of our relationships, plus extra info. It seems that DCF in Honduras is very forward they just want what they ask for, but it doens't hurt to be overprepared! OH YEAH, COPIES OF EVERYTHING!!

-In Sep went for the medical (mentioned above), went to embassy same day to figure out when our interview date was, supposedly in Oct. but asked if we could get an earlier date and received one for Sep. 13th, we got the medical done on Sep. 11, good thing we went with everything even interview clothes!

hello all,

I was wondering if the I-134 is needed to DCF in Honduras? All of the instructions from the embassy do not mention the I-134 is needed, but I just want to be on the safeside...By the way, in what situation is the I-134 required?

thank you all,

cdaz

For DCF, you'll be applying for an immigrant visa, so you'll need the I-864 at the interview with all the accompanying tax returns, W2s, etc. You will most like need a joint sponsor in the US unless you have a lot of assets as foregin income only counts if it will continue after moving to the US.

thanks, I asked the embassy today about that( I-134) and they said it was not needed, I'm currently working on the I-864 gathering documents and the evidence needed to accompany it. I still need to get my wife's medical done and all of our tax info, which has been requested but not received, they mentioned the interview was sometime in Sept. or Oct. So we will see how it goes till then, and thanks again to all of you!

cdaz

hello all,

I was wondering if the I-134 is needed to DCF in Honduras? All of the instructions from the embassy do not mention the I-134 is needed, but I just want to be on the safeside...By the way, in what situation is the I-134 required?

thank you all,

cdaz

If they filed together, then they should share the same tax transcripts as each other, but you will want to send both of their W2's and all of the supporting documents for both of them. The more you can send the better and make sure that you make yourself copies in case you need them because some people are getting RFE's for tax information even after they sent it. I personally belive that you cannot send too much information.

ok thanks, I suppose that makes sense to back-up the joint tax transcript, with each persons individual W-2's and 1099's! I would have not thought of that, I would have guessed that the transcript would be enough. Again another way of trying to stay on the safe-side.

Again THANKS!!! for all of your inputs!

Hey everyone,

I have a quick question regarding the instructions on the I-864 & I-864A. If my mom is our co-sponsor, my dad has signed the I-864A and they both file their taxes jointly, would we need include tax transcripst with each form or will one copy be enough for both?

I ask because the instructions individually state to include that evidence with the corresponding form.

Has anyone passed through that?

thanks,

cdaz

No those fees are set by Department of State (NVC, Consulates, Embassies). Only fees set by Department of Homeland Security (USCIS) were raised.

Better reason to do DCF, or CR-1 visa and think carefully about the K-3 which as just got much more expensive.

Oh yeah, I was just looking at the table of new fees and the I-130 has almost doubled!

Thanks for you reply!

hello everyone,

I was wondering, if anyone knows if the DS-230 I & II application fee has also been raised? In Honduras the fee is $335+$45=$380 , is what the instructions from the embassy state you need to pay for processing. They gave me this info back in March of 2007.

Also if the fee for the I-864 which the web site states is $70, has been raised?

Another Q., if the fee for the I-864 has not changed, do you pay the fee for every I-864 that has been turned-in as in the case of 'joint-sponsor'?

Thanks,

cdaz

Hello there. You are not understanding some of the issues correctly. You say your mom has enough money with her income and her assets combined, so you'll be fine.

You fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom will fill out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and fill out the assets section.

Alternatively, you fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom fills out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and includes your dad's income in the total. And then your dad fills out the I-864A as a member of her household, not as a second joint sponsor.

"Even thought they are living in the same houseold the I-864 contract does not apply to them either because the contract is between main sponsor and houseold member and NOT between joint sponsor and houseold memebr."

Where did you get this information? If this information has come from an official source, then I have been totally misunderstanding the instructions.

Margot -- your advice is correct. The contract of the I-864A is between the person filing the I-864 it is dependent on -- i.e., the sponsor with whom the I-864A filer shares a household -- and the I-864A filer. In some cases, this will mean the "main" sponsor (the petitioner) and in some cases this will mean the joint sponsor. For DCF, the latter is almost always the applicable situation.

thanks you guys, for the help, I havent read the I-864A so maybe thats were the confusion comes from. The only statement that I have placed here is from the I-864 instructions which is "A joint sponsor must be able to meet the income requirements for all the persons being sponsored without combining resources with the petitioning sponsor or a second joint sponsor", so thats were I've gotten confused.

So if I understand it correctyl:

--Petioner = I-864 (me)

--Moms income + assets, w/ Dads income = I-864(mom w/ assets sect. filled out) + I-864A (dad)

--Moms income + assets = I-864 (w/ assets section filled out)

--The I-864A contract CAN be used between petioning sponsor or joint sponsor(I-864) and houseold member's income [fills out the contract(I864A)] correct?

again thanks,

cdaz

Yep! You got it now.

thanks guys, for all your help

Hello there. You are not understanding some of the issues correctly. You say your mom has enough money with her income and her assets combined, so you'll be fine.

You fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom will fill out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and fill out the assets section.

Alternatively, you fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom fills out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and includes your dad's income in the total. And then your dad fills out the I-864A as a member of her household, not as a second joint sponsor.

"Even thought they are living in the same houseold the I-864 contract does not apply to them either because the contract is between main sponsor and houseold member and NOT between joint sponsor and houseold memebr."

Where did you get this information? If this information has come from an official source, then I have been totally misunderstanding the instructions.

Margot -- your advice is correct. The contract of the I-864A is between the person filing the I-864 it is dependent on -- i.e., the sponsor with whom the I-864A filer shares a household -- and the I-864A filer. In some cases, this will mean the "main" sponsor (the petitioner) and in some cases this will mean the joint sponsor. For DCF, the latter is almost always the applicable situation.

thanks you guys, for the help, I havent read the I-864A so maybe thats were the confusion comes from. The only statement that I have placed here is from the I-864 instructions which is "A joint sponsor must be able to meet the income requirements for all the persons being sponsored without combining resources with the petitioning sponsor or a second joint sponsor", so thats were I've gotten confused.

So if I understand it correctyl:

--Petioner = I-864 (me)

--Moms income + assets, w/ Dads income = I-864(mom w/ assets sect. filled out) + I-864A (dad)

--Moms income + assets = I-864 (w/ assets section filled out)

--The I-864A contract CAN be used between petioning sponsor or joint sponsor(I-864) and houseold member's income [fills out the contract(I864A)] correct?

again thanks,

cdaz

oh yeah, "Even thought they are living in the same houseold the I-864 contract does not apply to them either because the contract is between main sponsor and houseold member and NOT between joint sponsor and houseold memebr." that was my own personal misunderstanding sorry!

Hello there. You are not understanding some of the issues correctly. You say your mom has enough money with her income and her assets combined, so you'll be fine.

You fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom will fill out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and fill out the assets section.

Alternatively, you fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom fills out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and includes your dad's income in the total. And then your dad fills out the I-864A as a member of her household, not as a second joint sponsor.

"Even thought they are living in the same houseold the I-864 contract does not apply to them either because the contract is between main sponsor and houseold member and NOT between joint sponsor and houseold memebr."

Where did you get this information? If this information has come from an official source, then I have been totally misunderstanding the instructions.

Margot -- your advice is correct. The contract of the I-864A is between the person filing the I-864 it is dependent on -- i.e., the sponsor with whom the I-864A filer shares a household -- and the I-864A filer. In some cases, this will mean the "main" sponsor (the petitioner) and in some cases this will mean the joint sponsor. For DCF, the latter is almost always the applicable situation.

thanks you guys, for the help, I havent read the I-864A so maybe thats were the confusion comes from. The only statement that I have placed here is from the I-864 instructions which is "A joint sponsor must be able to meet the income requirements for all the persons being sponsored without combining resources with the petitioning sponsor or a second joint sponsor", so thats were I've gotten confused.

So if I understand it correctyl:

--Petioner = I-864 (me)

--Moms income + assets, w/ Dads income = I-864(mom w/ assets sect. filled out) + I-864A (dad)

--Moms income + assets = I-864 (w/ assets section filled out)

--The I-864A contract CAN be used between petioning sponsor or joint sponsor(I-864) and houseold member's income [fills out the contract(I864A)] correct?

again thanks,

cdaz

Hello all,

My Q. is, I'm the petitioner and I've asked my parents to be the joint sponsor, can they both combine their incomes to be a joint sponsor?

I ask becuase I read that "A joint sponsor must be able to meet the income requirements for all the persons being sponsored without combining resources with the petitioning sponsor or a second joint sponsor" Now I would guess this excludes them from using the I-864A contract between sponsor and houseold member right? It also states that there may not be more than two joint sponsors. I would guess a second sponsor is used when there are more members of the family immigrating so they split the family between the two sponsors. (for lack of better words)

I might be answering my own question here, but I would like someone to tell me if Im right or if i have other options.

So, if I understand it correctly, I the Petitioner cannot use the I-864A because I have no other relatives/members on my taxes + I have foreign income which they do not take into account so I must use a joint sponsor. My mom alone makes below the 125 line in annual income, but her assests could put her above, same with my dad. Even thought they are living in the same houseold the I-864 contract does not apply to them either because the contract is between main sponsor and houseold member and NOT between joint sponsor and houseold memebr. So they will not be able to combine income. So my best bet is to go with my mom since they both make about the same the only difference is that the house is in my mothers name.

Is this how it works and is this my best bet for joint sponsorship?

Oh!, one more thing, are there any posts or links relating to the use of the I-864 for confused people like myself?

thanks in advanced,

cdaz

Hello and welcome!

thanks everyone pleased to be here

Hello and welcome!

thanks everyone pleased to be here

ok thank you guys so much i thought we were on different pages....if thats the case is the contract I-864A needed since my I-864 will not be accounted for because of my income? Also, if I understant it correctly the contract is for two member of the same houseold being joint sponsors, if I am not a memeber of that houseold I would guess the contract is of no use to our situation. Since signing that contract would include me as a member of my mothers houseold correct?

Another Q. is that I have been in Honduras since 2003 and have not filed any taxes, I understand that there's a form used to see of I can be exempt from paying, will that be required for my I-864? I've read that USC can be exempt from paying due to foreign income, but you still have to file, how would that affect my situation?

Again, I cannot express my thanks enough!

You will either have to file late returns, they wont penalize you do to being exempt from paying taxes.

Don't worry about I-864A it is only used in cases where a sponsor or joint sponsor needs to rely on an additional household member for support due to both sponsor and and joint sponsor not making enough to reach 125% poverty line counting their dependents and the sponsored immigrant(s)

Some reading:

http://www.irs.gov/faqs/faq13-7.html

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/articl...=108326,00.html

Thanks a lot, I've reading on the taxes and I will just have to file for the past years, it looks like with my income which is way below 80k a year I will probably be exempt. I'm now working on the I-864 to see if my family members qualify and also I'm going to ask them to begin gathering the information(docs) so we can stay a bit ahead and over-prepared.

thanks,

cdaz

Hello all,

I would like to introduce myself and our situation. My name is Christian(USC) and my wife is Lucy(Honduran) we have a beautiful daughter Adriana(USC). My wife and I met a while back in 2005 and got married in 2006 our daughter was born in 2006. When our daughter was born I was able to transmit citizenship to her. Which was a big sigh of relief. My wife graduated here in Honduras and she's a Biologist. I'm a pilot who finished his training in the US two months after Sept 11, and because of that and the situation flying jobs were not available at the time. I was born in Honduras and have dual citizenship so I looked for jobs in Honduras and was able to find one. I've been here since 2003 moving up the ranks, and moving up the ranks of life with a wonderful wife and daughter. Now it seems that my career has reached all that it will progress here in Honduras and now I'm looking for a new challenge. So I asked my wife if she would make the move with me to the US and she said "of course!" And because of that, we are now on our VisaJourney to see what will happen and if we can complete our dreams in the US. We've been working on our journey preparing since January 2007 and filed the I130 in March 2007 and received our reply in July 2007. Since then I've looked at many websites for help and research. Many have been helpful but this one has been the best! From what I've read in the forums and guides this site is the most helpful so far. Plus the members seem to be real honest people looking to help each other, and now I'm here with lots of questions. Hopefully in time I will be able to help answer the Q's of future newcomers once I've learned the process and gained some experience. So to all of you who are willing to help and have helped thanks a lot!!!!

cdaz

ohoh,

OK lets go with Q6. Our daughter is a USC, we got that out of the way when she was born. The I-130 was petioning my wife, but APPROVAL NOTICE OF RELATIVE IMMIGRANT VISA PETITION letter was mailed with my wifes name as the beneiciary, but the classification came as 201(B) child-CR-2, which is completely not the case, since I'm petitioning my wife, however I mailed the embassy to see if it was a mistake. I was worried because we thought we would have to re-do the I-130, but the embassy checked the original petition and confirmed it was filled out correctly and that they would make the changes in their system, so now everything with I-130 is correct. I was asking since a change was made in their system, but i have not received a notification of that change, is it something to worry about?

Now I'm confused, the first reply says for Q2 that for that original houseold of 3 + the immigrant, the houseold = 4, not including myself USC and our daughter USC, but you say that all members must be acounted for which would be: original houseold of 3 + 3 the immig. and the two USCs, the houseold = 6, which one is correct? or am I just confusing myself?

You are confusing yourself.

Your mother's household size, for these purposes, do not include you and your daughter unless the two of you will be her dependents. You may live in the same house when you arrive, but if you are financially responsible for yourself and your daughter (she won't be taking a deduction on her taxes for supporting you), then it's just the current 3 + the new immigrant.

Yep that is correct!

Household size has to do with dependents counted on tax returns.

I live under the same roof as my parents, I am not counted as their dependent, and If I had to use them as Joint Sponsors, they would only be counting my Wife, not me on their "I-864"

ok thank you guys so much i thought we were on different pages....if thats the case is the contract I-864A needed since my I-864 will not be accounted for because of my income? Also, if I understant it correctly the contract is for two member of the same houseold being joint sponsors, if I am not a memeber of that houseold I would guess the contract is of no use to our situation. Since signing that contract would include me as a member of my mothers houseold correct?

Another Q. is that I have been in Honduras since 2003 and have not filed any taxes, I understand that there's a form used to see of I can be exempt from paying, will that be required for my I-864? I've read that USC can be exempt from paying due to foreign income, but you still have to file, how would that affect my situation?

Again, I cannot express my thanks enough!

Q1. NO, nothing to worry about

Q2. Yes, the sponsor and Joint sponsor. need to count all dependents, as well as the immigrant(s)

Q3. Don't count anyone twice, your wife is first an immigrant, and is not counted as spouse.

Q4. You MUST file an I-864 because you petitioned for the immigrant. Also I-864 requires 2 things of you inorder for you to file it, You MUST have domicile in the USA, and you Need to have been filing IRS returns the past year's one is needed to be attached , or a letter with a reason you were exempt from filing a return, (Income below a amount determined by IRS) You may be exempt from paying taxes on foreign income, but you are not exempt from filing IRS returns when out of country.

Q5. You may want to read this document to determine Domicile: http://travel.state.gov/pdf/I-864GenInfo-FAQ-Final.pdf

Q6. Is daughter the CR-2 you spoke of? If she is USC, then she is not immigrating, you register birth with consulate and get her a US Passport

ohoh,

OK lets go with Q6. Our daughter is a USC, we got that out of the way when she was born. The I-130 was petioning my wife, but APPROVAL NOTICE OF RELATIVE IMMIGRANT VISA PETITION letter was mailed with my wifes name as the beneiciary, but the classification came as 201(B) child-CR-2, which is completely not the case, since I'm petitioning my wife, however I mailed the embassy to see if it was a mistake. I was worried because we thought we would have to re-do the I-130, but the embassy checked the original petition and confirmed it was filled out correctly and that they would make the changes in their system, so now everything with I-130 is correct. I was asking since a change was made in their system, but i have not received a notification of that change, is it something to worry about?

Now I'm confused, the first reply says for Q2 that for that original houseold of 3 + the immigrant, the houseold = 4, not including myself USC and our daughter USC, but you say that all members must be acounted for which would be: original houseold of 3 + 3 the immig. and the two USCs, the houseold = 6, which one is correct? or am I just confusing myself?

Q1: Nothing to worry about

Q2: She does not include you or the USC daughter -- total = 4

Q3: The instructions tell you not to count anyone twice -- since you list her as the immigrant, do not count her anywhere else.

Q4: Yes, you will have to complete an I-864 even if your US income is 0

Q5: You can count your mother's residence as your domicile -- it is your planned initial domicile.

Q6: No advantage for your spouse.

Wow, thanks for the fast reply, really helps a lot for the plannning purposes and putting the mind at ease. So, If in the I864 #21 where it asks if I'm married place a "0"? I was wondering how not to COUNT ANYONE TWICE! Thank you sooo much!

Hello,

First let me start with, I'm a new member and what a helpful site! I've been reading some of the info and you guys have clarified some of my doubts. My story is the following: I'm a USC and my wife is a citizen of Honduras, we have a daughter who was born here in Honduras and I was able to transmit citizenship to her.(woohoo!) Now, we want to move back to the states since I have gained enough work experience. We have filed the I-130 and it was approved, althought it was approved with the classification for (child CR-2), however I emailed the embassy and called them. The application(I130) was filled out correctly petitioning my wife. I have not received a new notice but the embassy says its OK in their system. (Q1. Is that something to worry about?) Now, we are waiting for the Packet 3. I've been reading and trying to get ahead while trying to understand the process and I've found myself in some corners. Since I was never planning to live in Honduras I didnt buy a house or a car, nor have I established any form of Credit. I understand that I can have a joint sponsor which has to meet the poverty guidelines and I beleive my mother or my brother can meet them. Here are my questions:

Q2. If my mom is married and declares my sister in her taxes and files jointly with my father she has to be able to support all 3 of the family members plus the immigrant(my wife), myself USC and our daughter USC, making a total of 6 family members or will she be able to just sponsor the immigrant(my wife) making a total of 4 family members?(not including me or our daughter)

Q3. In the I-864 there's a question which I need clarification is number 21, which has to do w/ questions 8-10. If in question #8 I check yes, do I have to add my wifes name in the fields for #9(she will be the only immigrant being sposored)? And if so, #10 says that I must Enter the amount of immig. which would be only 1? However, when I get to #21 if I add the numbers which are 1(immig. from #10 my wife)+1(myself)+1(my wife the immig.becauce we are married)+1(our daughter)=4 houseold members, but in reality there's only 3 of us? I'm I confused or is that how it is?

Q4. From reading past posts I understand that my foreign income will not be used, I would like to know if I still have to file the I864 regrdless? (which I'm planning to do anyway)

Q5. Since living in Honduras I have not kept a domicile in the US except for the fact that that we will be living in my parents house if we get approved while we get established. Will quiting my job selling, all of furniture, appliances, etc. and liquidating bank accounts be considered re-establishing domicile?

Q6. Will the fact that our daughter and myself are USC will help in any cosideration from the CO?

Sorry for all the writing but I'm just trying to generate a complete Idea...

Please help and thanks in advanced,

cdaz