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My fiance is going to have an interview in 2 weeks. They told her that she need my Birth Certificates. I left vietnam when I was 4 years old. My Birth Certificates was damaged during the time when I left vietnam. How important is this? I don't know how to go about in getting my Birth Certificate. Does anyone know how to go about in getting this done. My fiance has two weeks til the interview.WHat happen if I can't obtain my Birth Certificates for her to bring to the interview.Are there any suppliment paperwork for this. Any information is great appricated...
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Congrat to all and me.
Just got my date also . May 6,08... 
Does anyone know what they need from the petitioner?How far back do they want on the paystub? Bank statements and bills ??? Thanks all
I just got off the phone and our interview date is May 12th. One month behind everyone else in here, but we'll eventually get there.
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Thanks Peter that really clear things up...
Does anyone know for example is you received packet 4 will they also assign an interview day along with that? To my understand packet 4 is the medical papers correct? Can you hand in packet 4 at the embassy? Also once you hand in packet 4 will they assign an interveiw day along with that? Any info is greatly appreciated. I am getting anty waiting for an interview day.Thank you
The Packet 4 includes the interview date, instructions for the interview and medical requirements. What they didn't include in Thi's Packet 4 was the notice to have 5 not 4 recent passport photos and proof of being single certificate. See my Consulate review for details about.
Once you have everything ready for the interview, I would suggest getting a Clear Plastic folder that snaps. Put everything in there in the proper order as listed in the Packet 4 letter. I put my I-134 in a seperate folder with a cover letter listing everything in order. I also put the evidence of our ongoing relationship in a folder with a cover letter listing everything in date order. All that was in the Clear Plastic folder. Since our chats/emails were so many (we chatted everyday for 2-3 hours) they were bound by month and carried seperately. I believe being over prepared and organized for your interview is more likely to help you get a pink. I keep reading of people getting a blue because they didn't include something that is required or not having evidence that is likely to be asked for. Remember the Consulate doesn't know you and sees lots of people everyday about visas. You have to be able prove to them you should get the visa.
Peter and Thi
I-129F Sent : 2007-05-26
I-129F NOA1 : 2007-06-11
I-129F RFE(s) :
RFE Reply(s) :
I-129F NOA2 : 2007-10-26
Touched: 2007-11-02
NVC Recieved: 2007-11-16
Consulate recieved ??????
Packet 3 sent 2007-12-11
Packet 3 received 2007-12-24
Packet 3 returned 2007-12-28
Packet 4 sent 2008-1-14
Email Reply with Interview Date 2008-1-23
Interview Date 2008-2-27
Passed Interview 2008-02-27
Visa Pick Up Date 2008-3-05
Received Visa 2008-2-29 (called to pick up earlier)
POE 2008-3-05 Los Angeles
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Does anyone know for example is you received packet 4 will they also assign an interview day along with that? To my understand packet 4 is the medical papers correct? Can you hand in packet 4 at the embassy? Also once you hand in packet 4 will they assign an interveiw day along with that? Any info is greatly appreciated. I am getting anty waiting for an interview day.
Thank you
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You can contact Marc Ellis. I heard from this site he a lawyer in Vietnam that helped a lot of people with different cases out.
Try consulting him. Maybe he can help. Best of luck..........
phone from the States:
011-84-90-835-8009
Phone in Vietnam
090-835-8009
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A lawyer mess up our paperwork’s in Vietnam. I don’t know why the delay but it pisses me off. I found out that my fiancé just mailed out packet 3 yesterday when she received it on January 15. Does anyone know how long will it take to receive packet 4 and upon sending in packet 4 till they decide to give her an interview day? I am just looking for a time frame so I can be prepared. I know that in Vietnam every move so slow and difficult. This waiting game is just killing me. I was just wondering if there is anyway to expedite this. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks guys
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I would suggest you go to Embassy and pick up the packet.Call them first to confirm. I am sure they have it there waiting to be pick up. My fiance picked her packet from the embassy.
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Please tell me what forms are included on Package 3 (Instructions package) from HCM Consulate.HCM Consulate has on 01/02/2008 sent out this package to my fiancee and now after 4 weeks, we still have not received it yet.
Can we just print out the requested forms on-line and turn them in by person at the HCM Consulate?
Please advise!
Thanks a lot in advance!
2007k1
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Congratulation. You must be very happy.Enjoy yourself in Vietnam while you are there and keep the good news coming...
I wanted to post the questions That An was asked yesterday at her Interview and let you know how it went .arrival= 6:00 am we sat a a coffee shop very close to the consulte drank coffee with An since we arrived early there was allot of parking for our driver then we payed a man to let us stay there until she finshed cost about 10000dong less than a dollar.
Doors open at the Consulte= The doors on the east side of the building opened around 7:00am every one that is doing every visa must go threw these doors and wait in line. This took about 30 minutes for An to get thru this line then she is told to go out in a single file line in front of the Consulte. And they allow one person to go threw the xray machine area at a time. Very slow process.
Security= At the Consulte there is about 4 armed Vietnam Police with Machine Guns all around the Consulte no one is allowed to park or drop off any one on the side of the Consulte . They will not allow anything to take place there very safe. Across the street on the other hand is a whole different place Motorbike men people selling books candy and there is no real place to sit except for the side walk. Once every person is in side people start passing out all sorts of flyers to get you to get plane tickets and help with paper work . Of Course they did not give me any Because I was the only white person there and it was all in Viet.
An said that she was directed to the are where she picks up a number then the tell her to promise to tell the truth. Then there is a large sitting area she takes a seat and waits for the sign to read her number. She waited about 30 minutes she then saw her number come on the screen then proceeded to window 13 where there was a Viet man siting he asked her for all the paper work and Medical Documents this is the most important she says to have all your paper work in order they check it and make her sign a sheet that she was not married before and if she lied in any way she would lose all benfits for the K1 Visa . They gave her back all the documents that they didn't need including her xray of her lungs. Then told her to have a seat and wait for her interview.
Interview= An was interviewed at window number 7 I call that Lucky number 7. She was interviewed by a White American Lady . She came up to the window and the CO said hello and An said Hello back then she asked An fingerprinted then she proceeded in questions to An (of course this was all done in English) An tells me she was very professional and very sweet. Here is the Questions that An was asked and in the order that the Co asked them.
-When was the first time you meet your fiance?
-How did you meet him? Where?
-Why did he go to the Vietnamese dating website to find a wife ? Did you see his profile ? (she thought that we meet on a Internet Dating site But We did Not so An Made sure she understood that)
-You email him first or he?
-What did you and him talk to each other at the first time ? ( He asked me if I know how to speak English then She told the Co that is the reason why he Liked me because I speak English. ( Funny Question I thought))
-What did you study in your university? (English )
-Why do you stop going school ? (because you fall in love right ? ) (CO words An did not have do anything except smile on this question.) She then told the Co thats right ,I Love him so much and they both Laughed.
-What will you do when you are in America ? . Be a wife Then go to School and find a job to help My Fiancee
-Does he speak vietnamese ? Yes some words. Because Viet very hard to learn . The Co replied Yes I Understand that (the Co knew Viet)
-Does his family come to your engagement ceremony ? Why not?
-Do you have any relatives in the Us ? Do they come to your party ? Yes Uncle but he did not come to our party.
-What is his job ? How is his job right now? Does he has any plan about his job in future ?
-can you show me the evidences about your relationship ? Yes of Course An had allot of evidence to show her but An just chose the photos first . She only had to show the photos (NO emails,No Chats No Phone records were need to my surprise )
-Do you have any trip around Vietnam with him? An replied that she only took me around her Province Because her Parents were worried about my Safety in Vietnam. Co said she understands
-Where did you go ? Temple the Mountain.........
-Let me see the photos of your engagement ceremony .
-Who is in this photo ?
After that a Vietnamese women came over to my window,and She looked the Co and the Co looked at each other ,the CO said that An speak English ,they both smiled and brought An the pink slip. An looked at the pink slip very close because of our friend that had an interview on the 9th he told us they made a mistake on his so she was prepared to look at it close .Then everything was correct .An did asked the Vietnamese lady if there was anyway that she can Let her pick up the Visa Early because I was Scheluded to Leave Vietnam on the 22nd of this month. (The orignal day was the 31st on the pink slip) The Co over heard the conversation then said wait a minute when and check on it and told her to come on the 18th and pick up the visa. I was so happy when then went to the Travel agent got her a plane ticket we will leave Vietnam on the 22nd. good Luck to all of you Eric and An.
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Excellent Job!!!!!!!!!!!! Best Wishes!!!!
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Thanks. You 've been a great help.....
The DS-156 and 230 will be filled out by your fiance. If you make well over the poverty line then you won't need your asset or bank account info. You do need the letter from employer and tax returns though (copies of returns) as well as copies of your W-2's. The fact that you just started a new job shouldn't be a problem. And yes it needs to be notarized, don't sign it until you're at the notary. -
Thank for the info. I have my past 3 years tax return. I just started a new job I hope this won't be a problem, and I make over ther poverty line, so do I still need to put down my asset or bank figures $$$ in the form? I prefer not to but if I must than i will. The I-134 need to be notized correct? What about DS-156 form and DS-230? DO i need to have these fill out?
You will need to complete the I-134 affidavit of support printable here. In addition to the things asked for on the form, you will need your last 3 years tax transcripts OR copies of your federal income tax return + W-2's for the last 3 years. You can request the tax transcripts from the IRS here for FREE. They take at least 2 weeks to get once you fax them the form. If you do not make over the 125% poverty guideline (which is around 17k right now) or have assets to cover the difference you will need to find a family member or friend who will financially sponsor her. However, if you make well over the poverty guideline, you do not need to provide any asset information.It would also be good to send any evidence you have of your relationship together such as boarding passes, passport stamp copies, letters, pictures, emails, phone bills, etc.
Also, this is an example of the Packet 3 contents from VANCOUVER, Canada. It will not be exactly the same as yours, but they will be similar.
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Hello All Vjers,
My fiancé just recently received packet 3 and is ready to submit it. Does anyone know what kind of paper works or form I need to give to her? How soon do I need to have these papers really for her? She was never sent Packet 3. She had to go the embassy to pick it up in Vietnam. I am trying to be prepare just in case. Thanks you all. Almost home my Dear!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just wondering if it is just me but I am still waiting for my NOA2. I sent in my I-129F on 7/10/07 to Vermont Center and it is 11/14/07. Over 4 months and still waiting. I see that some people here have sent in their after me and they have recieved their NOV2 already. Should I wait a few more days or give them a call and chase it down?
Thanks
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i recieved my NOA1 at june 27th and i'm still waiting from the NOA2 ... some june filler got the approval ... so just wait some few weeks 2 or 3 untill then i hope you hear a good news ... GOOD LUCK !!!!
Not Yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I am pretty sure you meant well. I'm just trying to explain my situation. Everyone cases are different. Some people may have it easy and some don't.
The question is what is your opinion regarding the disclosure of any financial support that you may have given in terms of its potential impact on the CO at the visa interview: Irrelevent?, Beneficial?, Negative?IMHO, negative & irrelevant. Possibly buying a spouse? Just my .02.
buying a spouse??!!!! DID YOUEVEN READ HOW LOOONG WEVE BEEN TOGETHER??!!!!!
I was answering Samby, I said nothing about you, did I?
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You hit it on the nail. HCMC CO is far from other countries. I wish it wasn't the case. I hear lots of stories all the time about unusual things about HCMC. John don't worry to much. Have a position attitude and big picture here. I am thinking it might be the most different place for any visa.I could be wrong ,just my opinion.....
They aren't going to be able, or likely willing, to play a video as evidence of anything. Just keep your records of emails and phone calls and whatever else you both do to keep in touch. Can you afford to fly over for the interview?The best advice is to prepare the best you can, and try to control your nerves - which is hard, I know. But it's like dealing with dogs and bees: they can sense your - and your fiance's - discomfort and uneasiness, which some translate as shady or hiding something. Work on her staying calm and being confident in knowing how to answer the questions. They should be able to interview her in her native language, too. You'll probably be fine.
Daisy, I'm sure you mean well and I know you are an advocate of approaching this with 'no fear'.
But this is the Ho Chi Minh consulate - the OP's concerns are far from unfounded.
I'd really like to see him consult with an attorney who specializes in these petitions.
You hit it on the nail. HCMC CO is far from other countries. I wish it wasn't the case. I hear lots of stories all the time about unusual things about HCMC. John don't worry to much. Have a position attitude and big picture here. I am thinking it might be the most different place for any visa.I could be wrong ,just my opinion.....
They aren't going to be able, or likely willing, to play a video as evidence of anything. Just keep your records of emails and phone calls and whatever else you both do to keep in touch. Can you afford to fly over for the interview?The best advice is to prepare the best you can, and try to control your nerves - which is hard, I know. But it's like dealing with dogs and bees: they can sense your - and your fiance's - discomfort and uneasiness, which some translate as shady or hiding something. Work on her staying calm and being confident in knowing how to answer the questions. They should be able to interview her in her native language, too. You'll probably be fine.
Daisy, I'm sure you mean well and I know you are an advocate of approaching this with 'no fear'.
But this is the Ho Chi Minh consulate - the OP's concerns are far from unfounded.
I'd really like to see him consult with an attorney who specializes in these petitions.
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Thank for the input Chuckandkim but for most of us who's been to Vietnam, it isn't like other countries. Vietnam is great place to have a good time. I would go once a month if I could. It’s a very fun, happening and exciting place to be if you have money, but on the other hand if you don't it is a very hard place to live. I 'm just trying to help her out a little bit here. I’m not trying to buy love or buy her of that nature. I know that this money I will never see again. It pretty much a gift that you can’t take back and I can live with that. I can hope my fiancé will use it wisely. I can only hope she understand and value me in trying to give her a better life so she can live normally. It’s hard to really know if someone loves you and value the things you do for them. Only time will tell. $500 is not going to break my bank but it may go along way for someone in needs of education (school), food and normal day to day living needs. I hope that this will last until Dec. which is 5 months from now when I will be returning to Vietnam... I am not going to sent anymore. If you she tries to request for more, this relationship is going to be in jeopardy of extinction. Thanks for the concern Chuckandkim.
FYI,For this part of the world, say Vietnam, they do expect some kind of monetary support, of course along with hand-writen letters and phone calls etc. OP wants to include proof of financial support as one of the many evidence he will need to provide HCM Consulate in support and convince the CO that his relationship is genuine! It's quite normal for USC to give money to his fiance in Vietnam. For a couple reasons: USC doesn't always know where to go and buy the roasted pig, flowers, engagement ceremonial rentals, or where to book the restaurant for their engagement reception. How to solve it? Send the money to the fiance, let her handle the logistic
Wait, she doesn't speak English too well, send her to English school, that cost money. Hmmm where do I stay when I arrive in Vietnam to visit her? Hotel needs reservation and booking in advance, let send her some money so she can do the legwork for me. Wait, I don't expect to dine and wine for free when i'm in Vietnam, do I? Give her some cash to take care of the meals. She needs gas in her motobike to get around town and take care of all the required paperworks to submit to the Consulate prior the interivew, that needs money too!Not all the girls will ask for money, but I think it is safe to say, the USC tents to give them extra cash, just in case, so she can be taken care of while you can't be there for her. Vietnam07 wants to make sure she is ok, that's all... I think! On the other hand, just don't over do it! Some cases I've seen, the more money you send them, the less they want to leave VN and come here with you. Watch out!
Last but not least, OP's logic is backward
People use "cash" to hide all traces, he wants to use cash to get traced! Let me know how you do that, cuz' I did spend over $5K each trip when I was in VN, and got no receipt to prove for all the expenses! Some of it, could be tax-deductable, but oh well! -
Hi John
I don't think you should give up yet. I know Vietnam is one of the toughest place to get a Visa, nevertheless you shouldn't give up. Try to have also much evidence as you can. Be overly prepared if you can. Is your fiancé going to school in Vietnam? They have plenty of school where they teach English to Vietnamese people there. I would recommend her taking some of these classes. It is also inexpensive. My fiancée is taking English classes near her house. I'm paying for her school. It cost me 100US for about 3 months, 3 times a week 1 1/2 hr each time. They teach reading writing and speaking. I know you only have about a month, however if you she try to learn English where it would help both of you to better communicate. You can also learn Vietnamese if you like from this Program call Rosetta Stone. They make all of these different languages. They have a Vietnamese and English version. I gave it to my fiancé to learn English also. It's pretty good software. Does she have a computer at home? If you want I can have my fiancé give her a copy of the program for her to learn. My aunt is going back to Vietnam on Sat 8/4. I m going to give her some stuff to bring back to Vietnam for my fiancée. These are just some of my idea to help you out. If you need anything let me know. My day will come some also and I too worry like you. I understand how you feel as it gets closer to the interview day..Best of luck...
I havd read stories where the visa has been held up because the Consul wants to see a video tape of hte petitioner speaking 5 minutes in unscripted Vietamese.My friend went thru there, and he is fluent in Vietamese. He was also rejected until he enlisted the help of his congressman.
Not being able to speak a common language, from what I understand, can be a big red flag there.
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I got a smaller credit card of mine put in my fiancé's name. That works very well. I get monthly statements and it is only $5 for her to get money. It is working out well
My aunt is going back to Vietnam so I figured I would pass some money to her to give to my fiancé to help her out with bills, food and school. I just wanted to show financial support in helping her out. I know that giving cash is hard to provide. I also figured that there might be no way of showing proof when it comes to cash.
Giving someone money is NOT proof of a relationship.
Good point. I guess I wouldn't bother with that than...
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I got a smaller credit card of mine put in my fiancé's name. That works very well. I get monthly statements and it is only $5 for her to get money. It is working out well
My aunt is going back to Vietnam so I figured I would pass some money to her to give to my fiancé to help her out with bills, food and school. I just wanted to show financial support in helping her out. I know that giving cash is hard to provide. I also figured that there might be no way of showing proof when it comes to cash. I though I ask people here if you have any ideas.I guess (WU) might be the only way to show proof. I though (Western Union) was changing 20% for money transferring…Thanks for the info. In Vietnam they don't used credit cards so that ouf of the question...
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What if you want to give money to your fiance living in a different country, how would you be able to prove that? For example like cash$. I know that if you go through western union you can keep receipt records but I'm talking about cash here $$$$. I like to give cash and not pay a %fee through a middle man.... Any suggestion????
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Why not make another trip to vietnam, take pictures that you are with the beneficiary for more than 3 days then submit as additional proof
I agreed with that. I don't know how much time you spend with her within the passed 2 years but you need to show every little piece of evidences you have.EX. Tickets to Vietnam, Visa to Vietnam, Money withdrawal from the bank, Hotel receipts, Pictures and so on.
For Example in my case when I travel to Vietnam in April, I had all of what I mention to you and more. These items show I was there and I travel through Vietnam. I have a stack of Bank withdrawal slips. It showed that I was there over a long period of time. I also spend over 500$ on phone cards. Over 70 phone cards at 8$ each. I hope you see the picture. If you need help I heard there is a guy name Marc Ellis who's an attorney in Vietnam who may help you. Email Poppscc or Thai for more info.....Good luck
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You think I should do DNA test? But they do not ask for it.
DNA is not the big picture they are looking for. Reread the letter. They are stating that you didn't provided enough evidences of a relationship. You need to label them and gather more information on what they want....I am not a CO but it look like that's what they are saying.
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dq2000, assess your case and compare it to the success and delay stories you found here on VJ, if there's really no big thing to be worried, then I would say do it yourself. If you have a question, search VJ or post it. If your case is complicated and are going to hire a lawyer, hire a good one, not a service or a lawyer who files paperwork for you.
When I started this process, I was also considering hiring a lawyer, because people were saying "K1 visa is REALLY tough in HCMC." But I am glad I did it myself, and so did my fiancée (for the consulate stage in HCMC).
That said, you should not take it lightly. When your true and honest relationship is being judged for visa, it is extremely stressful. You want to present your best from the beginning (sending of the petition). It is almost like "selling" your relationship. If you design a digital camera to be sold to consumers, do you want the buttons unlabeled or arranged haphazardly? Do you not want to include a user manual? Do you want the menu written in Latin? In other words, make it neat and clear any doubts before they are asked. For example, if you write on the application, "we have known each other for 2 years" then include some evidence that dated 2 years back, or "we had 3 meetings" then prove all three. That way there is no doubt for the person reviewing your application (including USCIS, NVC, Consulate).
Let's keep the comments about Vietnam not too negative while remaining truthful, folks? Sure there is shame but there is fame, but it is not "people love to scam" (all very strong words "people," "love," "scam" - sorry Vietnam07 please don't take it personal, I know what you mean). You just have to know how to live there and learn to do the right things. To us who lived in Vietnam or traveled to Vietnam at least, we know what you mean, but to foreigners, it may give a wrong impression about Vietnam and the Vietnamese people. I was asked by the a few younger Americans "Vietnam has electricity?" or "cars" or "internet." They meant well, and I took no offense but that makes me want to buy more "Made in Vietnam" products and care more about the Vietnam image.
Please don't take offense, anyone. I mean well.
No offense taken, just trying to help. I love Vietnam myself. A very fun place to visit. If I could be there I would flight today.
I did used some strong words however I didn't mean it like that.
dq2000, assess your case and compare it to the success and delay stories you found here on VJ, if there's really no big thing to be worried, then I would say do it yourself. If you have a question, search VJ or post it. If your case is complicated and are going to hire a lawyer, hire a good one, not a service or a lawyer who files paperwork for you.When I started this process, I was also considering hiring a lawyer, because people were saying "K1 visa is REALLY tough in HCMC." But I am glad I did it myself, and so did my fiancée (for the consulate stage in HCMC).
That said, you should not take it lightly. When your true and honest relationship is being judged for visa, it is extremely stressful. You want to present your best from the beginning (sending of the petition). It is almost like "selling" your relationship. If you design a digital camera to be sold to consumers, do you want the buttons unlabeled or arranged haphazardly? Do you not want to include a user manual? Do you want the menu written in Latin? In other words, make it neat and clear any doubts before they are asked. For example, if you write on the application, "we have known each other for 2 years" then include some evidence that dated 2 years back, or "we had 3 meetings" then prove all three. That way there is no doubt for the person reviewing your application (including USCIS, NVC, Consulate).
Let's keep the comments about Vietnam not too negative while remaining truthful, folks? Sure there is shame but there is fame, but it is not "people love to scam" (all very strong words "people," "love," "scam" - sorry Vietnam07 please don't take it personal, I know what you mean). You just have to know how to live there and learn to do the right things. To us who lived in Vietnam or traveled to Vietnam at least, we know what you mean, but to foreigners, it may give a wrong impression about Vietnam and the Vietnamese people. I was asked by the a few younger Americans "Vietnam has electricity?" or "cars" or "internet." They meant well, and I took no offense but that makes me want to buy more "Made in Vietnam" products and care more about the Vietnam image.
Please don't take offense, anyone. I mean well.
No offense taken, just trying to help. I love Vietnam myself. A very fun place to visit. If I could be there I would flight today.
I did used some strong words however I didn't mean it like that.
Birth Certificates for Vietnam
in US Embassy and Consulate Discussion
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FYI... Good news
I was able to get a copy of my birth certificate in Vietnam.
My mother has some connections there where she make a few phone calls to the people who live in the town where I was born and was able to get a copy of my birth certificate. I paid 500,000 dung for it which come out to $30us.. I guess for anyone who need to get a birth certificate in Vietnam; it is possible. Thanks for everyone support. 
Jack