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The notary I use doesn't have a raised seal , she has a stamp and it is always on the page she signs. I am sure she is doing it properly as my company submits a lot of documentation to the government.

I just came from the notary I always use. He said the text on the I-134 form is generic, and he has to go by California Law that has changed the text in some way, so he had to sign that California specific instruction and sign that. I asked him to reference the attachment, and he stamped the original document and referenced the new doc in the signiture section, he had one of those stamps that raise up the paper, he put both peices in the stamp, one edge of one doc, and one edge of the other and stamped them together. He said that way if you hold them side by side the stamp will be complete.. leave it to California to screw up and easy thing and make it more complicated then it needs to be.

It does not state to whom I should address the letter? The first time it was addressed to the USCIS for the 1-129F package.

Sure it does... It says if needed for the interview, it should be addressed to the consulate.

or when submitting for the interview:

United States Department of State

United States Consulate, (name of Country where the Embassy is located)

(Embassy Address)

So in your case, you should use the USE Manila's address.

--Mae

Thanks for the response! That is what I was assuming, but just wanted to make sure.

I must be going paperwork blind, I still don't see that information you quoted, on that page I referred to.

This look correct ?

United States Department of State

United States Consulate, Philippines

1201 Roxas Boulevard

Manila, Philippines 1000

It does not state to whom I should address the letter? The first time it was addressed to the USCIS for the 1-129F package.

Sure it does... It says if needed for the interview, it should be addressed to the consulate.

or when submitting for the interview:

United States Department of State

United States Consulate, (name of Country where the Embassy is located)

(Embassy Address)

So in your case, you should use the USE Manila's address.

--Mae

Thanks for the response! That is what I was assuming, but just wanted to make sure.

I must be going paperwork blind, I still don't see that information you quoted, on that page I referred to.

in the K1 guide found here http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=k1guide

In the bottom section labled : "What to send to your fiance(e) once the I-129F is approved (Receive NOA2):"

It states in step 3. "Send an original letter affirming your desire to marry your fiance(e) and your continued support of the K-1 Visa. Sign and date the form. This will be similar to the letter you provided with the I-129F, but dated much closer to the interview (it will have most likely been several months since you submitted your I-129F)."

It does not state to whom I should address the letter? The first time it was addressed to the USCIS for the 1-129F package.

I understood the visa was good enough for getting here, I was concerned with what docs besides the visa she and her son would need to bring to eventually process all the way through to the green card, etc.

Hmm...you know I've never actually heard anyone talking about this. It's a very important thing to consider I guess.

I would say she should bring everything and anything you guys can think of, to be honest. I'd add to your list already medical history and records. And also maybe she can consider trying to get an international drivers' license? I could be wrong about this but depending on your state, she may have to wait awhile before she can get a license in the US. But the international drivers' license I'm pretty sure would mean she can drive here freely without the US license, at least for awhile or until she's eligible.

But this would mean her learning the rules there I guess and taking a test for that, don't know if you guys have that kind of leisure or what. Just a thought though.

Good idea on the medical & dental records, if she has any.

I already sent her to driving school there and she got her international driving license. I figured it would be better to have her train there for many reasons...

Does anyone have any other input on what docs / records she and her son should bring over, I'm would have guessed this would have been brought before?

Is there a list somewhere of what forms and documents my Fiance and her 15 year old son should bring with them to the US from the PI when they come?

I assume; Visa, Passport, Birth Certificate, School records.

What else?

TIA

My Fiance' has a 15 year old son who will be migrating to the US with her. He is named on the now approved I-129F.

I know she has to have a medical exam, but we don't know if he will need one also? I used the search feature here for previous posts on the matter and looked at the guides, either its not mentioned or I am just missing it, I can't beleive it hasn't been brought up before? Anyway, looking forward to hearing from someone who knows.

Thanks,

Mac

whats the poverty line?

http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/08poverty.shtml

Its based on the number of people residing with or being supported by the sponsor. Generally speaking you need to make 125% of the poverty line to not require a co-sponsor. By the way the people who can live with that little money - wow! Most people can't - Good luck

ok, i went to the site, let me see if i understand correctly.

When my fiance gets here ( California) , it will be me, her and her son living here so that's three people.

the graph shows $17,600 is the amount of the poverty threshold for the contiguous u.s.

so that means I need to make $17,600 * 125% or (17600*1.25) = $22,000 gross income in order to qualify?

NO You only need to list assets if your income is below 125% povertyline.

If your income exceeds 125% or (100% for military) of the povertyline when counting yourself, prospective immigrant and any dependents, then don't bother with assets (401K, Bank balance, Stocks etc..), it is just extra un-needed data to provide, the consular officer is most concerned with INCOME.

whats the poverty line?

So... they still haven't cashed my check. When should I start to worry? Is there someone/someplace I should call to ask, "Hey, did you loose the check, because it was attached to the front of the application? Do you still have it ? Are you gonna cash it?"

FFS its been a month since I got the return receipt back... From what I read here, the returned check is the only way I have of knowing if there is a case to track, if they don't cash the check, what do I do to see if they even started a case or not?

Note: Posted in the August filers section, it was reccomended I ask here.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=1201392

As my sig shows... Check cleared my bank 9/28/2007 and I received my NOA1 10/1/2007.

Good luck to the rest of you still waiting for these.

So... they still haven't cashed my check. When should I start to worry? Is there someone/someplace I should call to ask, "Hey, did you loose the check, because it was attached to the front of the application? Do you still have it ? Are you gonna cash it?"

FFS its been a month since I got the return receipt back... From what I read here, the returned check is the only way I have of knowing if there is a case to track, if they don't cash the check, what do I do to see if they even started a case or not?

Note: Posted in the August filers section, it was reccomended I ask here.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=1201392

Sent ours on 2007-08-15 certified mail return receipt. The check hasn't been cashed yet, and I haven't gotten the return receipt yet either

As my signiture now shows...

30 AUG 2007: Received Certified Mail Reciept - Dated received at CSC 17 AUG 2007

So... they still haven't cashed my check. When should I start to worry? Is there someone/someplace I should call to ask, "Hey, did you loose the check, because it was attatched to the front of the application? Do you still have it ? Are you gonna cash it?"

FFS its been a month since I got the return receipt back... From what I read here, the returned check is the only way I have of knowing if there is a case to track, if they don't cash the check, what do I do to see if they even started a case or not?

Sent ours on 2007-08-15 certified mail return receipt. The check hasn't been cashed yet, and I haven't gotten the return receipt yet either

As my signiture now shows...

30 AUG 2007: Received Certified Mail Reciept - Dated received at CSC 17 AUG 2007

Sent ours on 2007-08-15 certified mail return receipt. The check hasn't been cashed yet, and I haven't gotten the return receipt yet either

PS. Why is every reply in a box below my post in links I have to click to see seperately, I used to be able to see all the replies on a page and just scroll down the page to read them, now I have to click each one individually, how do I get the old way back ?

At the top of the thread, click on 'options' and choose 'standard' display mode.

Thanks TracyTN

im not sure what you would have in that that would make it 1.5 inches thick.

perhaps you have put in all your proof OF A relationship instead of Proof of having MET in the last 2 years.

the forms and passport photos dont take up that much thickness

cover letter (1 page)

I-129f (1 page)

G325A ( 8 pages)

Birth cert/passport ( 2 to 20 pages)

declaration how met (1 page if used, some use #18 on I 129f)

divorce decree (4 pages, will vary)

passport photos (2)

proof met (6 to 10 pages photocopy boarding passes, visa stamps, etc)

pictures (4 to 10)

thats about 36 pages with 6 to 12 pictures. less if you dont use your passport and only use birth cert. that should be around 1/2 inch.

remember you dont prove you have a relationship here. your fiance does that at her interview. you only prove you met in the last 2 years. dont send them any phone records, cards/letters, emails , chats, etc with your I 129f. keep the receipts to what will prove you were together. ones with both your names, flight, hotel, etc.

Chris

In addition to the Proof of having met I included the ongoing relationship evidence, I was following this guide:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=k1guide

Documentary Proof of Having Met in Person in the Past Two Years and an Ongoing Relationship:

Use as many of these items are possible. There is no minimum,

but the more you can provide the less likely you are that you will receive an RFE.

...

3. The following items will not typically show proof of having met in the last two years however will show proof of an ongoing relationship: Copies of phone bills, cell phone bills, emails (you can edit personal info with a marker), letters (edit personal info also), stamps on the letters (to document the date they were sent), and other written documentary proof. Provide a reasonable amount; two to four of each type. Pick a range of dates up to and including the present. You can also include a copy of engagement ring receipt (this is something that is a big optional - do not worry if you do not have a ring yet!)

I did end up removing a lot of the Ongoing Relationship evidence, so its more line an 3/4 inch thick now...

I two hole punched everything, stacked it up in order according to the guides, used the acco fastener, put it in a folder with the check, put that in an envelope and mailed it out yesterday.

I guess I'll find out if that is good enough or not eventually.

Thanks for the input everyone!

PS. Why is every reply in a box below my post in links I have to click to see seperately, I used to be able to see all the replies on a page and just scroll down the page to read them, now I have to click each one individually, how do I get the old way back ?

Thanks for the links, I already read the guides ^^ i was just wondering if people were actually doing that, or in practice something different.

Looks like I'll have to go buy a two-hole punch and a ACCO fastener... I had to google those, I never heard of them before.

No you don't! Re-read #2 above.

I think I did ? I think your implying my package is too big ( as if that is possible), but the question of how much is too much to include seems to be a big grey area. I included what the guide said to include, and even left some out, and thats what I ended up with.

Some people seem to be minimalist, some seem to throw everything in and the kitchen sink, I think I have tried to keep what is relevant and be able to show good history, so how much is too much? Is it weight of the package or the height of the stack of paper that gets you through?

Thanks for the links, I already read the guides ^^ i was just wondering if people were actually doing that, or in practice something different.

Looks like I'll have to go buy a two-hole punch and a ACCO fastener... I had to google those, I never heard of them before.

Please share how you packaged up your I-129F application.

I read the guides, and finally found a link that discussed using a two hole punch and a fastener to put it all together. I haven't done that yet, but I will go reformat all my documents to include room at the top for a two hole punch and go buy the fastener... If I really need too.

I was just going to send all the paperwork in one stack, with those sticky tabs as separators, in a manila folder, and put that in an envelope for mailing. Is that good enough? Any other suggestions for what has worked for you?

Thanks,

Mac

if you are going for a K-2 for the son, I-130 is not needed.

basically, a K-2 visa need to be issued within one year from the date the K-1 is issued.

as far as interview goes, it depends on when the son will follow to join. if it's within six months, then you would want the son to attend the interview with your fiancee. when the visa is issued, you have up to six months to enter the USA.

If you plan to have the son follow to join six months to one year after your fiancee, then you would have to schedule an interview. remember to allow enough time to schedule the interview since the k-2 will have to be issued before the end of one year from the issuance of your fiancee's K-1. If over a year, then an I-130 petition would have to be submitted for the son. that process would probably take over a year.

Thank you Roy and Yazi! That's exactly what we needed to know!

/cheer

hi Mac,

the fact that the son is under your fiancee's name & the BioFather is not listed in BC..there's no need to have the POA.

BC itself speaks out that its your fiancee who has the full custody to the child.

tell her, not to worry about anything!

regards,

alexandra

ok thank you jj1028 and alexandra! That clears up that part.

After discussing with Fiance and son, we have decided that son will follow my Fiance within the year. That will give us time to get settled and make way for him. As island_princess instructed, we will have to make sure to get the travel clearance from DSWD since he will be under 18 and traveling alone.

Now what about the process of getting a K2 for the son, and how does the 1-30 relate to that? I am confused about this part.

If I understand the process correctly. After the I-129F is approved, my fiance will get an interview and if successful they will send her K1 visa to her. Will an interview be scheduled for the son also? Is that automatic, or do we have to schedule that? And if his interview is successful, will they automatically mail him the K2? Where and how does the I-130 fit in here?

Thanks everyone for all the help

Mac

Yes, I read somewhere, I can't remember where now, that my Fiance's son's biological father, who she was never married to, will need to give written consent to the son leaving the country. And in the event the biological father cannot be found to give consent, that there was some form to file somewhere stating the fact that the biological father can't be found to give consent. I am trying to find out if that is still the process, if so where is the instruction to do so. Does anyone know ?

Thanks,

Mac

hi mac,

as per my situation. I consulted the Phils Embassy here in M.E. regarding my daughter's future travel in foreign country.

Well, lucky me..since my daughter's name is under my surname & her biological father was not even specified in my daughter's BC. So., i have the full responsibility over my daughter.

I know some will react on this. but its major decision i made. We intend not to get married inspite of her existance. the fact that her biological father wasnt initiated any action to improve our situation , was the major factor that leads me to have a 100% power over my daughter.

Now, with the travel issue..as per the DSWD advice..clearance will not be needed as long as the child will be travelling either of his/her parents.

If your fiancee's son is under his biological father's surname & the name of his BioFather is also written in his BC, then its a different issue..

If i'm in the position of your fiancee, i'll be proactive in any circumstances that might take place in near future - secure a Power of Atty that its your fiancee who has the 100% right over her son. The fact that his BioFather was nowhere to found, is a good point for this.

THe main reason, by securing such POA is for the protection of your fiancee & her son.

Maybe not now..but might be in the future.

This POA can also serve as good proof that your fiancee & the son are clear over the BioFather - this is IF IN CASE SHE WILL BE ASKED BY THE CO.

I still highly suggest that your fiancee will contact DSWD regarding this matter.

regards,

alexandra

Thank you Alexandra. My fiance is in the same situation. The biological father is not listed on the BC, she was advised to enter "Unknown" for biological father on the BC, and the son carries her family's name. Based on what you have written from your experience, she should not have any issues. However, your advising that she should get a POA, did you get one? If so, where?

r/

Mac

US Embassy in Manila does not require written parental consent to travel from a minor applicant's parent, for purposes of visa issuance. However, the Philippine Department of Social Welfare and Development (DSWD) requires Filipino children below 18 years old who are traveling abroad alone or unaccompanied by their parents to obtain a travel clearance from their office. Since this document is a Philippine government requirement, we can only suggest that you contact the DSWD Field office which has jurisdiction over your place of residence. Information regarding the required travel clearance is also available at this Internet address:

http://www.gov.ph/faqs/travelclearance.asp.

Thank you island_princess, we were not aware of this requirement. It is possible the child will be traveling alone, so this paperwork will need to be done in advance.

How do we apply for a K2 visa when the mothers K1 is approved? Is that the I-130 or some other form? Is that done in Manilla, or here in the US ?

I read somewhere that children have to have their Father's written concent to leave the contry, but I can't find that reference. In this case, the Father is not to be found. What document needs to be filled out stating that fact, and when and where does it need to be filed?

hi akamac,

you know, i tried to search also the guidelines for K2 visa but like what you experienced, i also got confused & worried since the informations provided as if were not that definite as it is. then i realized, maybe there's no really as definite guidelines for K2 because its just a very basic situation. A simple as - Children under 21 yrs old can be included in the petition (for K1 application) & considered as K2.

this is the info i got from other site -

Now with regards of your questions, the way I understand it, is that K2 is under K1 application.

If K1 has approved, meaning any child that was included in the petition automatically approved also.

As per on the info on that site I posted - A SEPARATE PETITION IS NOT REQUIRED IF THE CHILDREN ACCOMPANY OR FOLLOW THE K1 APPLICANT WITHIN 1 YEAR FROM THE DATE THE K1 APPLICANT IS ISSUED HIS/HER VISA.

Therefore, as per on that statement, there will be a separate petition needed if the children didnt falls in any of that categories.

Thanks for the link, it appears that the child should accompany the fiance to the interview and I guess if approved, the fiance gets a K1 visa sent and the child will have a K2 visa sent. I would love to hear from someone who has actually done this to verify.

You mentioned also about the Father. Are you talking about the biological father of the child? the ex-husband of your fiancee?

Are you asking the consent needed from the biological father? Is that what are you trying to say?

alexandra

Yes, I read somewhere, I can't remember where now, that my Fiance's son's biological father, who she was never married to, will need to give written consent to the son leaving the country. And in the event the biological father cannot be found to give consent, that there was some form to file somewhere stating the fact that the biological father can't be found to give consent. I am trying to find out if that is still the process, if so where is the instruction to do so. Does anyone know ?

Thanks,

Mac