strandedlost

Did you divorce, as you said in an earlier post, and file a I-751 waiver?

Ok...to state the facts....last year as i was going to do a VAWA...never did it...i did leave her for a few weeks, i was going to file alone....never did...just went back to her as stupid as i was didn't know what to do with myself, where to go, no-one to turn to.

Stayed with her....things got a little bit better, stayed until citizenship,....some days its good,....some days its bad,...but this life with her isn't for me.

No technically i believe i haven't misrepresented....i left here for a few weeks...but we got back together...stayed together, but it was as stated...good some days, bad some days, more bad than good though, so....not for me....

am i in the wrong then?

No i didn't, but was very close to.

Ok...to state the facts....last year as i was going to do a VAWA...never did it...i did leave her for a few weeks, i was going to file alone....never did...just went back to her as stupid as i was didn't know what to do with myself, where to go, no-one to turn to.

Stayed with her....things got a little bit better, stayed until citizenship,....some days its good,....some days its bad,...but this life with her isn't for me.

No technically i believe i haven't misrepresented....i left here for a few weeks...but we got back together...stayed together, but it was as stated...good some days, bad some days, more bad than good though, so....not for me....

am i in the wrong then?

Are you sure you are completely innocent of manipulating immigration laws, yourself?

ever since arriving,.....i've been subject to emotional, physical abuse from my USC wife. I have also been subject to emotional abuse from both of her parents. This has happened on a weekly basis now for 3+ years.

had my N-400 interview, passed, taken the oath 1 month ago, but i just can't deal with it anymore, i want to leave her.

Anything i ever did or say, if it wasn't what my wife or her parents wanted they would always threaten me with getting deported and they would "make sure that it happened". in their exact words.

So i didn't know what to do. I held on through the conditional green card stage, i held on through removing conditions (THAT was a nightmare of a wait for a year) and i held on through naturalization, wondering to myself "what do i do,? how do i leave her???"

I didn't/don't know what to do. No matter what i did.....what i said, if it wasn't to their liking they would always say something like "you do this or we're calling immigration,"

Then my wife would say "you do this, or i'll f@#$ you and your life over and your immigration status and make sure you get deported if you don't do as i say".

I never used her because im from a 1st world country where we are in the top 5 economically and living standards. Its just that the reason WHY i didn't leave her and hung on this long is 2 reasons....

1.- I didn't, still don't know HOW to leave her, im afraid of repercussions after i leave her, afraid for my life.

2.- Constant daily threats of calling immigration just kept me hanging in so i could just "get done with the immigration ####### so they wouldn't have that to use against me anymore.

EVERY TIME i had to go to get my biometrics appointment, or have my N-400 interview....it came with ALOT of conditions...if i didn't do this....or i didn't do that,....she wasn't going to take me to get the fingerprints done, or take me to the interview.

She constantly ses that "i owe her everything for bringing me here"....Once again,...im from a 1st world country, and was better off economically where i was.

Now im sure she along with her parents called immigration and made complaints against me, plenty of times. I was surprised WHY it was never brought up at the n-400 interview.....very surprised, im not sure if they really did call immigration and made complaints, or just blowing smoke. OR they actually did and immigration disregarded it, im not sure, or if the complaints maybe got lost in the system.

I consulted a lawyer, he wanted me to leave her during the lifting of conditions phase. Although i'd been abused physically MANY times, had a knife held to to my throat, chocked me, kicked me, punched me, stabbed me in the leg (which required stitches and i NEVER went to the hospital because i didn't want the doctors to ask how and then she threatened to kill me if i did go), scratched me, i never called the police, because

1. Im a guy, and felt the police wouldn't believe me

2. Her parents are well known in the town for over 30+ years (reputation)

3. wanted to work things out with her (crazy of me)

I never have hit her, although i have defended myself and pushed her off me when she had a knife at my throat and put her in a hold that she couldn't get out of to prevent her from stabbing me again.

I also didn't trust the justice system, and didn't want things to backfire on me through a VAWA believing that hardly any guys use this route............so basically i've just shut my mouth, held it in and kept cool, saying to myself "thank god this is almost over!!! get done with this stupid immigration ####### and leave her!!!" .....because thats what she ALWAYS threatened me with,...still does!!! even though i have been a citizen for a month. so i figured to myself...

......."well if you get the immigration part over-and-done-with that is something less they can't threaten you over anymore".

So now that i am wanting to leave her, and basically im ready to walk out and leave ANY day, im afraid that her and her parents will call immigration and make ALOT of complaints....more so,.....im afraid for my life. Im afraid that she will come after me in a rage of anger and try to kill me, and her parents, will feel very embarrassed about the situation because of their reputation and everyone will know in the town.

Even though im now naturalized (1 month since oath), and we've been married 4 years, is there a certain time frame that i have to wait in order to leave her so that immigration won't accuse me of fraud? or more so, process complaints that her and her parents will make to immigration?....

Can she claim fraud??? if so....how??? I did enter into it with good intentions.

The marriage started out well for the first 3-5 months,...then from there...it went downhill completely and i've just stuck it out since.

How many times can her and her parents complain to immigration and they take it seriously? I've heard that you can only complain once with very good evidence (what my lawyer told me) and that every complaint made, is recorded in the sense that if immigration starts to see daily/weekly complaints about an immigrant spouse, they will disregard it as just a spouse "who is sour" over the break -up.

If they make a complaint, and immigration somehow believes her and her parents and processes it, and even though im naturalized, what is the process??? am i sent a letter to be interviewed at the local district office even as a naturalized citizen? or does it go straight to an immigration judge?? I never made complaints to the police although people at my workplace saw my injuries. I took no photos of when she left marks.

I know her and her parents are excellent in lying, and making up stories, which is why i am asking.

What do i do.....how can i leave her?.....as a naturalized citizen...what are my rights? can i really get deported??? even as a naturalized citizen??...even when i entered into the marriage in good faaith (we both did)

Help me please.........

.........yes i am....why wouldn't i be???

then again i guess you've never been in an abusive relationship not knowing what to do.....

I haven't read his previous posts but I still find it quite odd that the OP keeps refering to his country and his financial status and living standard in his country but still did not want to go back or get out of the situationafter being through so much abuse. If I was financially secure and had a better living standard, the first thing I would so is try to go back.

.........bit hard when you've been here and are established to just pack up, go back and start all over again with the age i am......

Diadromous is right. Something seems fishy here. If an immigrant is abused by a USC spouse, they are eligible for expedited processing of LPR. We have to consider that there are two sides to this story especially given conflicting posts by this user. We shouldn't be so keen to jump on the wife when something here does not pass the smell test. There definitely seems there are some schenanagens going on. People who stick around "trying to work things out" don't say things like "thank god this is almost over!!! get done with this stupid immigration ####### and leave her!!!" or "what do i do,? how do i leave her???" We all support each other but we need to consider all angles.

yeah we do say things like that.....did you not read the part where i have had a knife held to my throat......

and what people are not looking at is the abuse that has happened to me.......

mermaid is too stupidly concentrated in only the immgration side of it.....but yet fails to read the abuse side of it.

and ANYONE who has been abused and gets threatened daily with immigration and doesn't have many options of course will just hang in and see whats ahead next.

in fact,...if memory serves me right...there was a post a few days ago in regards to a similar situation, and people were commenting on how they were threatened by their spouses or ex-spouses in regards to immigration.

they were getting support....

so basically im just wanting to know....

as a citizen...what are my rights.....what can/can't she do.

no....we ended up staying together, filed the I-751 together.

...and no mermaid, i was not manipulating immigration law....if so....how???

To me...im just someone who came here with good intentions.....tried to have it work out, it didn't, got threats made against me, and then didn't know what to do and stayed in the situation.

1st world countrya nd financially good yes i was, but im an older person and it would be hard for me to pack up, move and start all over again.

ever since arriving,.....i've been subject to emotional, physical abuse from my USC wife. I have also been subject to emotional abuse from both of her parents. This has happened on a weekly basis now for 3+ years.

had my N-400 interview, passed, taken the oath 1 month ago, but i just can't deal with it anymore, i want to leave her.

Anything i ever did or say, if it wasn't what my wife or her parents wanted they would always threaten me with getting deported and they would "make sure that it happened". in their exact words.

So i didn't know what to do. I held on through the conditional green card stage, i held on through removing conditions (THAT was a nightmare of a wait for a year) and i held on through naturalization, wondering to myself "what do i do,? how do i leave her???"

I didn't/don't know what to do. No matter what i did.....what i said, if it wasn't to their liking they would always say something like "you do this or we're calling immigration,"

Then my wife would say "you do this, or i'll f@#$ you and your life over and your immigration status and make sure you get deported if you don't do as i say".

I never used her because im from a 1st world country where we are in the top 5 economically and living standards. Its just that the reason WHY i didn't leave her and hung on this long is 2 reasons....

1.- I didn't, still don't know HOW to leave her, im afraid of repercussions after i leave her, afraid for my life.

2.- Constant daily threats of calling immigration just kept me hanging in so i could just "get done with the immigration ####### so they wouldn't have that to use against me anymore.

EVERY TIME i had to go to get my biometrics appointment, or have my N-400 interview....it came with ALOT of conditions...if i didn't do this....or i didn't do that,....she wasn't going to take me to get the fingerprints done, or take me to the interview.

She constantly ses that "i owe her everything for bringing me here"....Once again,...im from a 1st world country, and was better off economically where i was.

Now im sure she along with her parents called immigration and made complaints against me, plenty of times. I was surprised WHY it was never brought up at the n-400 interview.....very surprised, im not sure if they really did call immigration and made complaints, or just blowing smoke. OR they actually did and immigration disregarded it, im not sure, or if the complaints maybe got lost in the system.

I consulted a lawyer, he wanted me to leave her during the lifting of conditions phase. Although i'd been abused physically MANY times, had a knife held to to my throat, chocked me, kicked me, punched me, stabbed me in the leg (which required stitches and i NEVER went to the hospital because i didn't want the doctors to ask how and then she threatened to kill me if i did go), scratched me, i never called the police, because

1. Im a guy, and felt the police wouldn't believe me

2. Her parents are well known in the town for over 30+ years (reputation)

3. wanted to work things out with her (crazy of me)

I never have hit her, although i have defended myself and pushed her off me when she had a knife at my throat and put her in a hold that she couldn't get out of to prevent her from stabbing me again.

I also didn't trust the justice system, and didn't want things to backfire on me through a VAWA believing that hardly any guys use this route............so basically i've just shut my mouth, held it in and kept cool, saying to myself "thank god this is almost over!!! get done with this stupid immigration ####### and leave her!!!" .....because thats what she ALWAYS threatened me with,...still does!!! even though i have been a citizen for a month. so i figured to myself...

......."well if you get the immigration part over-and-done-with that is something less they can't threaten you over anymore".

So now that i am wanting to leave her, and basically im ready to walk out and leave ANY day, im afraid that her and her parents will call immigration and make ALOT of complaints....more so,.....im afraid for my life. Im afraid that she will come after me in a rage of anger and try to kill me, and her parents, will feel very embarrassed about the situation because of their reputation and everyone will know in the town.

Even though im now naturalized (1 month since oath), and we've been married 4 years, is there a certain time frame that i have to wait in order to leave her so that immigration won't accuse me of fraud? or more so, process complaints that her and her parents will make to immigration?....

Can she claim fraud??? if so....how??? I did enter into it with good intentions.

The marriage started out well for the first 3-5 months,...then from there...it went downhill completely and i've just stuck it out since.

How many times can her and her parents complain to immigration and they take it seriously? I've heard that you can only complain once with very good evidence (what my lawyer told me) and that every complaint made, is recorded in the sense that if immigration starts to see daily/weekly complaints about an immigrant spouse, they will disregard it as just a spouse "who is sour" over the break -up.

If they make a complaint, and immigration somehow believes her and her parents and processes it, and even though im naturalized, what is the process??? am i sent a letter to be interviewed at the local district office even as a naturalized citizen? or does it go straight to an immigration judge?? I never made complaints to the police although people at my workplace saw my injuries. I took no photos of when she left marks.

I know her and her parents are excellent in lying, and making up stories, which is why i am asking.

What do i do.....how can i leave her?.....as a naturalized citizen...what are my rights? can i really get deported??? even as a naturalized citizen??...even when i entered into the marriage in good faaith (we both did)

Help me please.........

and when you do a FOIA(Freedom of Information Act), what does that actually contain? does it contain ALL your documents that you filed PLUS any allegegations one has made against another so that person knows whats comming???

what i see from this issue is that the person just stayed on in school, and never applied for a AOS, did his school and left, i see it as not a mis-representation, but more so an overstay,

no, she has no evidence of this that it was entered into deceitfully, (because it wasn't) HOWEVER, her parents might write a letter to her saying something like that, or some other members of her family, can that have any effect??? or no because of a "conflict of interest"?

what i wonder is what they would actually think, your right, because im guessing that the U.S.C.I.S. doesnt really believe EVERYTHING on what they see/hear from the internet, so even if she has done all this, im sure they wont believe her.

But shes trying to find anything to have me pinned and in trouble, thats the sad part

If it were me, I would be working with a detective on a fraud case against her.

btw, please fill out your time line to give everyone some information to use.

John, Annie,

Exactly what type of fraud has strandedlost's estranged wife committed ?

Identity theft, she representing herself as him to disparage his identity.

Well, if what she is writing is true, then would that be fraudulent misrepresentation?

Im guessing so wouldn't it??? its definately an invasion of privacy creating some profile on a few websites, AND emails and making things up that never even existed, if it isn't then i'd sure love to know what it is then, and i've started to save the webprofiles as well to send off to a lawyer

really? they can release an I.P. address just like that??? yeah, its really damaging when that happens, because all she has emphasized is that "she wants me deported, and will stop at nothing to see it", and sadly enough, thats the same thing with her family as well.

i just can't understand why people are like this, how they can become soooo vengeful, it just got to a point with her abuse that i said "enough is enough" and i left, i guess she got mad because she had no-one to hit after,

She comes from a very broken home, is there anyway that i can use that to my advantage???

what "exactly" was the reason for your deportation??? an application that was withdrwan? an overstay??? a crime???

or is a "stokes interview" only for married couples who immigration believes is just a "friend-helping-out-a-friend" thing?? on an AOS??

Most of you know my story, and well i've successfully since then divorced and have long since filed the I-751 alone, have had my biometrics taken and am now just in the waiting process i however have a few questions that i would like to clarify.

As well you all know that her family and herself have claimed fraud against me, and have made several complaints to immigration about me.

First of all, IF i get approved for a 10 year green card, even after i have got it and have had it for a while, could i be possible called for a "stokes interview"? (can someone enlighten me weather that is an interview with the fraud unit or not)

Right now, she is signing me up on dating websites putting MY PICTURES on there, then is turning around and telling immigration that i had been unfaithful, also she created e-mail accounts with my personal information on it and to make matters worse, is making up people that don't even exist to write back to the email account she created, THEN in turn, has told immigration that i was unfaithful and entered into it fraudulently.

HOW can i protect myself??? will immigration believe what she shows her? she's a liar and is just making my life miserable.

As you all know of my story, my ex and her family want me deported extremely bad (can't understand why they keep persisiting in this)

Im about at the end of this and am either going to do 1 of two things.

-Move to another state

-Move back to my country

I have over $25,000 in student loans, now if i decide to go back to my home country and never return (because im getting sick of them, have to hang around until divorce is final as i dont want to try and do a divorce through mail/phone correspondance)

WHO would have to pay the student debt if i leave the country??? the sponsor or me??? i dont know if this comes into the I-864 or not.

Im clueless on this issue, maybe if they find out that they'll be responsible for paying my massive student loan they'll leave me alone and not bother me anymore.

Anyone know about the rule/law on this?

yeah but Stuart Folinsky isnt that great of a lawyer, he's had some big problems in the past, look here

http://www.wsba.org/media/publications/bar...isciplinary.htm

but it ses "other names used, including aliases"....so theres the problem,. is it looked at more like an alias???

can the U.S.C. honestly make life that hard for the ex???...even when there is a break-up?

but in the sense i have committed fraud havent i? even if its unintentionally.....but can i be deported over it?

how do they know about it though???

anyone know of any good immigration lawyers?? that actually fight for their clients and not just for the money you have to pay them???

Hi there once again, a little more into my case

Years back, i used another name for about a year and a half, although i NEVER changed it legally by the court, deed poll, or any of the sort, just a name i used, i got my police record with my birth name on it and it came out clean (because i have never committed a crime) and i called the police and they had informed me that if there was a crime committed under my other name i used it would have shown up on my birth name.

Just before my interview i called a lawyer asking what do i put in there where it ses "other names used" (which appears on the I-130,G-325A forms etc,etc. and i was told to put "none" as it was never a legal name change or a name that was continuously used or kept continuing to use.

I've been in the U.S. now for 1 and a half years, and i got worried about it, so i called the consulate where i had my interview and the CO said "not to worry about it", but im now in the problem i am with my now ex, and she is trying to use that against me to that i have "committed visa fraud".

I called 2 lawyers, one said not to worry about it, the other one said to, so now i am confused, could i be put into deportation proceedings over this??? i am confused because calling the consulate, the CO said not to worry about it, another lawyer said not to worry about it, but one lawyer did say so.

Can i go an make an ammendment to my form?? or do i go in an "confess" it to someone at the district office??? im very confused, its not a name i legally changed, i've never ever committed a crime, its just a name that was used for about a year or so, then was never ever used again. Plus i took the advice of a lawyer before my interview.

what do i do???

Hi there once again, a little more into my case

Years back, i used another name for about a year and a half, although i NEVER changed it legally by the court, deed poll, or any of the sort, just a name i used, i got my police record with my birth name on it and it came out clean (because i have never committed a crime) and i called the police and they had informed me that if there was a crime committed under my other name i used it would have shown up on my birth name.

Just before my interview i called a lawyer asking what do i put in there where it ses "other names used" (which appears on the I-130,G-325A forms etc,etc. and i was told to put "none" as it was never a legal name change or a name that was continuously used or kept continuing to use.

I've been in the U.S. now for 1 and a half years, and i got worried about it, so i called the consulate where i had my interview and the CO said "not to worry about it", but im now in the problem i am with my now ex, and she is trying to use that against me to that i have "committed visa fraud".

I called 2 lawyers, one said not to worry about it, the other one said to, so now i am confused, could i be put into deportation proceedings over this??? i am confused because calling the consulate, the CO said not to worry about it, another lawyer said not to worry about it, but one lawyer did say so.

Can i go an make an ammendment to my form?? or do i go in an "confess" it to someone at the district office??? im very confused, its not a name i legally changed, i've never ever committed a crime, its just a name that was used for about a year or so, then was never ever used again. Plus i took the advice of a lawyer before my interview.

what do i do??? not worry about it?? do i need to relax and take a deep breath ? am i over worrying???

First you do not have to apply for Citizenship.

Second if you have had conditions removed then unless there is something new that comes up, I do not see how it impacts naturalisation.

But as has been pointed out, first things first.

I sense the OP is asking about naturalisation because he seems to believe that it will ensure some sort of protection to his LPR status. I get this impression because he appears to be operating under an assumption that even after receiving LPR status once conditions are removed, USCIS can call him for a follow up interview, ex facto. The fact is that once an LPR without conditions, only a substantial claim of fraud could or would cause USCIS to consider rescission.

To be pedantic, one can apply for citizenship even if one has not yet received an approval on a petition to remove conditions from permanent residency if one satisfies all other requirements. Typically, in this sort of situation, should the alien's naturalisation interview be scheduled during the pendency of the I-751, the pending I-751 will be adjudicated at the same time as the naturalisation interview.

"Bumps in the road" means that if your wife and her family are compelling in their arguments to USCIS; if they provide documentation or evidence to refute your claim that the marriage was legitimate; if they provide USCIS with reason to believe that the marriage was entered into on your behalf solely for immigration benefit, then there is a chance, in fact, a good chance that you might be called in for an interview with an AO or an investigator in the Anti-Fraud Unit of your local district office.

Up to this point I would have said that you are worrying needlessly. However, "having a lease for a couple of years" that indicates that you and your wife cohabited, and other papers that "coincide with that", as you say, does not demonstrate a 'bonafide" marriage in my eyes, or in those of USCIS, for that matter. If you are resting your case on this type of documentation, "buckle up"!!!!

Ok then, if what i have doesnt demonstrate a "bona-fide" marriage in your eyes, or that of USCIS, then what would??? i have joint bank accounts, all the "typical" things a normal married couple would have except children (no use having a kid with someone you left now is it?, logically)

then what would be a bona-fide relationship???

what kind of visa you come here on CR1? well sounds like you came on CR1 since your talking removal of conditions. here is the thing. you can stay here 2 years. yeah yeah.

and you can remove the conditions on your own. yeah yeah. if you have proof to show you had a valid marriage entered in good faith i see no problem. but, that dont mean you cant be deported. My ex husband was deported he was here on CR1.

The problem I see with your post is basicly your all talking about saving your azz. but, your not saying how you want to save your marriage or make it work!! if you been abused where is the documentation? your gonna need it at your hearing.

Yes, it was a CR1, yes i have proof, (im guessing you DIDN'T read my post clearly), and under my understanding, NO you can't be deported just because of a failed marriage, when the divorce is final, i know the petition will have to be withdrawn and submitted again, which i will tick the box that the marriage ended in divorce, which i have far greater evidence for than i would being abused, even though the abuse came into it, and was one of the biggest factors..

By the way, a "hearing" is only for people that have to appear before an immigration judge.

Buddy. what makes you think you will not have a hearing?

see you THINK you got it all figured out. so why post on VJ- mr know it all.

your putting the cart before the horse. your talking about naturalization but,

you have not dodged the deportation bullet. - man phleaze.

babybunny,

Strandedlost said his wife and family members stated that he "needed to be hunted down and deported', but that doesn't mean he is being. There's no hearing until a petition that he submits is denied and he becomes subject to removal, or an approved petition is rescinded. However, as Yodrak has also pointed out, his is now a case of being able to meet the burden of proof as an alien that the marriage was bona fide. With one party unwilling to cooperate, heck, with one party claiming that it wasn't, he should be preparing himself for some bumps in the road.

Yes, her party is unwilling to co-operate, so i have her plus the mom,dad and all the other family members now on her side, what type of "bumpy roads" can i expect to face? if approved as an LPR would it be best to just leave it at that? or even still can i receive a letter requesting an interview at a local USCIS district office?