Sinh & Lien

some time you just have to ask....i didnt look hard enough on this website for it. Thank you all for your replies.

can someone give more a better example than the one given by the instruciton letter? What should it contain and how do i give evidence to support it? I will be using my father and my uncle. Thanks.

4.Declaration of how you met in person in the last two years. This should be a single typed page attachment regarding question 18 of the I-129F. Make sure to sign and date it.

^^from the guide

"Describe the circumstances under which you met. If you have not personally met each other, explain how the relationship was established."

^^from the I-129F

"We first met in person in Merida, Venezuela on June 23rd, 2007 when I was studying abroad. I studied there for one month, then lived with him and his mother as my host family for two months. My last trip to visit him was from April 8th to April 15th, 2009."

^^This is what I wrote for #18. I didnt mention that we first "met" online. Should I put that we first met online? I thought since they didn't count that as "meeting" that they wouldn't care to know about that. Then again, when it comes up in the interview, I don't want them to think we were omitting anything. Also, if it fits in the box, do we still need to use a separate piece of paper and sign and date it?

it would probably be a good idea to include the information, that way you are going to be 100% truthful.

If it fits in the box, then you do not need another sheet of paper.

I am really sorry to hear that the outcome of your petition is a denial. I did NOT have an engagement ceremony, but i told them when and where i was going to have it. I did mention to them that that was my plan REGARDELESS of the outcome of the visa. I think that is where our cases are a bit different, i never made a condition to do the engagement and wedding only when my fiance got her visa. That just sounds' wrong.

Anyways, it looks like your fiance got real nervous, because there are a long list of items besides the non-engagement aspect. She didn't seem to know you and your family that well, that is NOT a good thing. And i can only assume that those factors made the fact that you did not have an engagement that more difficult to ignore. Whatever you wrote or told them through the application and follow-up interview, you the petitioner, actually gives them all the questions to ask your fiance (the beneficiary), and when those two stories (answers) don't match up, they will give you a problem.

It's not the end of the world, though it may seem that way. Unfortunately i have no experience with what you are going through. Though it seems the members here will have some thing to add to that. There is always hope, remember that your case is real, so don't worry. I know it sucks not to have all the marbles fall in the order that you want, but you will have to live with it. The sooner you get our head clear, the better. If you remain emotional you will not think clearly. Lastly, please don't be too rough on your fiance (like i was) you will only end up regretting it. This will no doubt we a test for your relationship.

If at all possible, i would recommend that you do both of the things that you asked. Call your congressman (i dont know how that would work) and go back to Vietnam with your dad. That will help in any case of a follow-up. Having your father with you is a huge postive and if you can do the engagement, all the better. Best of luck.

"You do not need to supply bank statements unless you are using assets to meet the minimum requirements. You do, however, need to supply all of the same documentation your co-sponsor will regardless of whether or not you meet the req. "

You are right, that is a great point, i was off. It has been that long ago......

Unless it has changed since we did our paperwork, you have to submit your bank statements, if you have an account. I am sure that was one of the required paper for the affidavit of support? Again, that will help show that you can support this person and that is one of the key deciding factor. They have to see that your relationship with this person is real and that the two of you can survive (think financial...).

I included my money transfer over Western Union for my fiance and it did not show up as a red flag. So i guess that does depend a lot on the interviewer....I don't think it will hurt, IMHO.

Its a case by case thing, for my case, we did not even have an engagement ceremony. Being that a K-1 is for fiancee and all....we just told them how it was going to be and they understood. We ended up doing the engagement and wedding in vietnam after she recieved her visa, but we told them how and why...and they were ok with it.

1. Is it really ok to write "NA" on no. 11. of form I-134 which is about " I intend/not intend to make specific contributions to support the person on item no. 3.

Coz I read somewhere that answering "NA" should be avoided..

- Well, if he is to petition to bring you to the US, he WILL have to provide for you some how, thus he has to make some contribution. For example, housing and food.

2. My fiance who is petitioning me has no job for some months already as well as we have no savings. But, his dad is co-sponsoring. Is it going to be a problem?

- They will require the previous three tax years in succession. Again, he has to prove that he can support you financially. The USA doesnt want to support you when you first arrive, they see it as a burden on the taxpayers. So him not having a job is not a good thing, unless he can prove to have a lot of money saved up. This is a big issue for the CO. I believe to support some one, they will refer to the poverty guideline, which you must exceed 125% and for a family of 2 (the two of you), it is somehwere in the $20,000 range. It depends on the consulate. i have heard some where that they do allow co-sponsor, but it is at their own decision (case by case). The co-sponsor will need to provide all the information that the sponsor provides. You will need to explain why he is not working....remember, the two of you will have to be able to survive financially (love does not provide food). Google for 2009 poverty guideline and if you have questions, ask.

3. How should his dad fill up form I-134 no. 11. of form I-134 which is about " I intend/not intend to make specific contributions to support the person on item no. 3.? Is it also "NA"?

- if he intends to be a co-sponsor, how will he help you? financially? or food and a place to live?

4. Lastly, the only money that we have is his family's gift intended as a wedding gift.. It was deposited in his account just last week, is it advisable to present his bank record? We're bothered that the Embassy might regard it as a "payment" sort of marriage of convenience.. It's really not.. but they might interpret it that way though the money came from his own family to give us a good start.

- if it can be shown that it was his father to him, i dont think it will be a problem. What i see as a problem is his ability to prove he can provide for you when you arrive and that the two of you won't live out on the street or own goverment money.

My interview for the Embassy is on March 25.. I'm nervous! Is it really complicated??

- it can get complicated if you dont provide the necessary information. Also, make sure you understand all the things that was written in the papers that your fiance submitted. Your stories must match up 100%.

Having gone through this process about 2 year ago, i can certainly understand what you are going through. I do agree with the way you are thinking and how you are approaching this process. Every one here is right, that you will need to provide sufficient undisputable evidence of your relationship AND that your fiance doesn't mess up the interview by answering fasely/incorrectly to the CO during the interview. The way i look at it is this: this whole thing is a "story" and it is up to your fiance to paint it out clearly to the interviewer and leave no doubt as to the legitamacy of the story. If you are able to provide all of the requested information/evidence precisely to their requirement, you should have a clear path. BUT, remember, if you get turned away at first, DO NOT be discourage...just be patience and give them what they need and becuase your love is real, in the end it WILL work out. My experience left me feeling like the consulate was beating me around the bush, but at the end, i got really upset (and focused) that i was able to put together all of their requested information and i was able to address all of their concerns and in the end, we passed. Good luck

So she doesn't any AP or anything like that right? Thank you for all your replies, i appreciate it.

I am so glad i found this post. Here is my situation, please clarify:

My wife entered the US with K-1, she got her two-year permanent resident card (green card) back in November 2007. Her green card will expire this November 2009 and her Vietnam passport will expire some time in 2011. We plan on going back to Vietnam this March. What other documents will she need to have (or apply for) besides what she already have and of course a plane ticket?

Thanks...

Congratulations!!!!

I have not visited this site for awhile now and i wanted to check to see if i could help with any questions...but just reading up on your post brings up old memories man.....scary ones....anxiety...nervousness.....woooh......

BUT, congrats! i know you must be very excited and i hope that you will soon be with the one you love and have a great life ever after!

Hey,

Man i wish i was around when you posted this. I only started reading up on your post because you sent me an email. Anyways, the first thing that jumped out at me was what you said in your original post. You said that you weren't planning on getting married for 2-3 years from now. Well, if this K1 visa goes through, and she reaches the USA, you have 90 days to get married, so i don't know how you plan on doing that? 6-9 months from now she will get a visa, let say she stays in Vietnam for close to the 3 months the visa is valid for that is still only a year, you have 90 days to get married when she enters the USA.....do you see where i am going with this? So think about it and let me know....

Also, for my case, i DID NOT have a "dam hoi" when i sent my I-129F, STILL DID NOT have it when my wife went for the interview...so it goes back to what i said to you in my first post to your first post, it's all about convincing them that you are for real and that starts with a good story. For my case, i explain the circumstance that we met and that my parents met with her parents (get to know each other) and that was about it, i didn't even have pictures of that meeting. However, what i did in my case was, i did see her twice before i sent in my package. I met her in summer '05 went back again in winter '05 and then sent in the paperwork august '06 and then i went back in winter '06, she got interview in spring '07 i went back to do "dam hoi" and get married summer '07 (now she is here with me). We did not even have a lot of pictures from each of my visits. I mean, when you are for real, you just don't care too much as long as you know you're for real and every thing will take care of itself. The reason why i sound so confident is that i believe in your case (story) i think it works. But others will think that it's fake, so think from that angle, what about your story may lead people to think that you're fake....So you have to prove that your relationship with a former friend/treat-like-cousin turned boyfriend/girlfriend is for real (beyond a reasonable doubt). These things happen in life and not just in the movies, so when you develop your feelings for this girl, how did it happen?????????? I can't imagine one morning you woke up and it happened....I will check your other posts to see if i can help...

Hey,

The thing is, i think if you are serious about this (and you are) just go for it. Having to worry about requirements and what other people think is not going to get you any where. Remember, the rules are there to weed out those that are faking it to get immigration benefits. You, on the other-hand, you're doing this for real. So just relax. The evidence will come. I think in your 129, you just have to do a good job of convincing them that this love is for real and it wasn't just a spur of the moment....

thank you all soo much, i figured out from the "similar topics" as soon as i posted. Thanks again

Hi,

I am trying to get ready for the adjustment of status phase and i am stuck. All the form seems to ask for an "A" number. I assume this refers to the alien number? When or where can i find this number?

My fiance got her k1 visa and is in the US right now. Please help

Basically when you file a tax return you get a return transcipt, but since that is a document that is considered easily forged the consulate require the irs's version of the transcipt, which will have essentially the same information just listed differently and it is listed on an IRS letterhead with information that can't be false. Also, i heard that there is no such thing as an 1722, which is the term the consulate used, the irs operator just calls it a transcipt. But if you call they will know what you are talking about if you just let them know you need it for immigration purposes. i would get it if you are having interview soon, it doesn't cost any thing.

She got her visa already, but will not come over until july 13th because we i have to go there and do the wedding and then we come over together. Sorry to hear about your status, hopefully you will get it soon enough, hang in there. Also, you are only needed to provide proof of tax year 2006?

Sorry i didn't know you wanted to use an agent outside of your local area. Anyways, i have a cousin who is a travel agent, she said they get their hands on blocks of tickets whenever they can at discount prices (therefore they can sell it to you for cheap) and this usually occurs about 2 months prior to date of departure. I believe the prices are lower if you travel before December 5th or 9th, depending on which airlines you use.

it is now May and you are talking about Christmas? Always good to plan ahead i guess. If you are from around here i'd have you go to an Vietnamese travel agency but from where you live, there is none? Try to google it!

we are getting married July 3, so not so far from yours. Anyways, what is your status? any updates for us. Regarding the affidavits, if they ask for tax, just call the IRS office and request the transcripts, or whatever form it is depending on your fiancee's type of work, and get them soon, i got it back from the IRS in about 4 days, so it was fast. You might want to get it right away, you never know how long they may make you wait....since 2006 taxes are done already, you should ask for that too along with 2005.

I agree with chuchandkim because of my experience with a lawyer. I used a firm to prepare and do all the documents for my k1 but it was disappointing. This seems like a recurring theme but: this all happened before i found VJ. We all can definately do this on our own with the help of this forum, no doubt about it and everyone will have their own reasons to use a lawyer (i was lazy and i didnt have enough resources (ie VJ) at the time to do it on my own). i agree that you only use a specialist as a lawyer as a last ditch effort if your case is in dire need of it and no one here had gone through it or cannot get back to you on a reasonable timeframe. Some cases i think there is no question, like a green or fraud....

Anyways, with the bad experience i had with my so called expert immigration lawyer (M. Solomon out of NY), getting help from this forum is not only quicker but also more accurate. Because we have a collection of people here who are going through this or has gone through this, it makes more sense to talk to the poeple who are in the same boat as you. The emotional support is huge, not to mention the EXPERIENCE. With lawyers, they may have more experience than every one here combined? i doubt it!

About your case, listen to chuckandkim: think BIG picture. Put your relationship on a pedestal and try to find angles to knock at it, those are the same angles you would want to make explicitly clear with the consulate. Whether it be evidence or you writing a letter to state your claim, but always try to have supporting credible evidence to back up any and all of your claims, or else they will let you go around in circles like they did in my case. Be clear, be confident, but most importantly: be courteous.

i used a co-sponsor but i DO NOT know how heavily it weighed in on their final decision, but many of the blue slips we got were rooted with financial issues. I made $16+ in 2003 and 2004, made 2k in 2005, and 14.5k in 2006 (started work in June '06, salary at 26k) and 2007 is on pace for 28k (my pay stub during her May interview was at 9k). we got approved and i used my father as a co-sponsor. So i don't really know how involved a co-sponsor is in their rationale. But on one of my blue slip it said something to the extent: until you can provide proof that you are a full-time student a co-sponsor cannot be used. So, obviously some time it happens but the point is to prove that you can work, earn enough and be ABLE to MAINTAIN that level. hope this help, please let me know if you need further explanation on my case.

I don't think you really have to worry about the police, i have seen first-hand and attended many of these weddings in vietnam and never ever heard about police being a problem. I live 17km east of Nha Trang. Also, my situation is that i didn't even have a engagement ceremony or wedding but we still got approved for our visa. The point we made was that we are going to have them both together this summer before my fiance leaves for the US. My "dam hoi" is on the 29th of June and my wedding is the 3rd of July. We got asked about it during the interview but they took our explanation without further questions.

From what you have told, i don't forsee any major problems, they might bring one or two things out to try to stump you but i really don't see any thing. But don't get too confident, you never know!!!

W2 is information about your income with a particular employer, they should have it on record and can provide you with it if you have lost it. But having a W-2 is based on your type of employment. If you are self-employed i believe you dont even get a w-2....But definately get the tax transcript from the IRS

what about fees you would pay a CPA or tax preparer if you needed a statement from them? It was the case with me and i had to pay $75 for them to state that they prepared my tax and the CPA to say that i own the company, now, where is the justice in that? And its funny how Bank of America can't just put in a letterhead and print them right on the spot when you request it?....but supposedly the associate told me that it used to be free until people starting charging customer money for their own profits, so a few greedy poeple ruin it for every body else.