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That sounds reasonable. She doesn't need to have the vaccines necessarily redone, she never had them done (well, except for those she did, but as far as we're concerned, with no record its better we just say she never did as to not confuse people anymore). I'm sure the county department of health would be more than happy to give her those vaccinations. Before I went to Hong Kong I also needed many vaccinations and went there, and they did it with no problem (and gave me one of those signed yellow things).
One other question, do we HAVE TO send the I-693A with the I-485, or is it possible to send it at a later date (noting your time line), and is there any danger of doing this?
Thanks a lot for your help! We will try to call that office on Monday and see if we can explain everything.
-Tim Lantz
p.s. One doctor's office told us that she needed polio and whooping cough vaccines - I was just wondering if anyone knows (I know nothing about medicine really) if that sounds ridiculous for her age (24)? I really thought those things were only for when you're a little kid.
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We're having some trouble, and so I have another question.
For a K-1, was my wife supposed to get a copy of the I-693 herself when she was in her home country?
We do not have a copy of the I-693, so all the doctors offices are telling us we need to have the whole physical again. The only thing we have is the sealed chest X-Ray. Also, some doctors tell me she only needs to have chicken pox, tetanus, and MMR vaccines (also someone on here told me that). But one I called says that she needs all 7 listed on the appendix A sheet from CDC, except for influenza.
All the doctors say that we need to provide the original I-693. Has anyone else had this problem. Also, does anyone know of a doctor in the Chicago area who actually knows how to deal with this stuff? I've already run my phone minutes way over trying to call all of these doctors and none of them seem to want to help unless she does everything again.
USCIS said they do not know what vaccinations she would need. She doesn't have any records from Hong Kong at all. If she absolutely had to go through the whole exam, I guess we have no choice, but I'm afraid then we are submitting the wrong information with our packet because she's K-1 and she only needs a vaccination supplement.
Thanks a lot for any help or advice you can give me.
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Without medical records, is there any way to prove she had chicken pox when she was a kid? I mean, can't they do like a scratch test with a chicken or something. That one seems annoying
(because she definitely knows she had them, but no record anymore). For that matter, I was born and grew up in U.S., and I don't have medical records that go back far enough to prove I had chicken pox. Doctors all leave the state and then country because the HPMPHPO's always are not paying for their decisions. By the way, I noticed on some timelines people send the I-693A later and not with the original packet. Is this a normal thing to do?
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To update that a CS office just told me she'll need MMR, vericella (spelling?) and tetanus. I'm no where close on vericella. It's suggestions I spell it vermicelli =/
How do I check if this is right before we go to the county office to do it?
Thanks a ton in advance for your help!
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Ok, that makes sense, I've gotten one of those yellow records myself from a county health department office before.
How do I know what vaccinations she needs?
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Thanks for the help everyone so far. I've actually read the two paragraphs posted above and that's why I posted here - couldn't make sense of them.
If she were to go to the county health department for vaccinations first, would she get a DS-3025 at that point?
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Do you absolutely need a DS-3025? In Hong Kong my wife didn't get any vaccinations at her medical, and so there would have been nothing to write. She doesn't have any medical records either, aside from what USCIS got from the medical exam. All she was given was her xray.
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What is the DS-3025? My wife never got one of these overseas.
-Tim
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Hello,
My wife and I just recently got married last weekend. We want to try to get our papers done and start the AOS process now. The most confusing part for us is definitely the I-693 stuff. She had a medical exam before her interview in Hong Kong, but all she got to take home from that was an X-ray that she can't and hasn't opened. We didn't get any other forms from them.
Does this mean we need the full medical? Or do we just get the supplement. Her K-1 application interview was just a couple months ago. As I understand the directions, I think she only needs a supplement, but I just wanted to make sure.
Also, are there ANY other forms we need to bring to the doctor once we find one (the doctors are really far from us, making us take a weekend trip, so I really just want to make sure).
Thanks a lot in advance for any help, advice, or clarification you can give me. This part of the form's directions just really seem unclear to me
, heh-Tim
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Hello,
My fiancee has been here since July 22. We're getting married this Saturday. We want to file the I-485 and supporting documentation soon after. We just applied for a SSN number today, and they said it would take around two weeks to get it in the mail. My question is, do we NEED to file with the SSN number on the I-485? Is it really necessary? Or is that a detail that can get handled later?
Also, I just wanted to double check - as long as we've filed the I-485 before her 90 days are up, she does not have to leave U.S. Is that correct? Thanks a lot for your help!
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Florence had her interview today in Hong Kong. It went well and only took a while because they could not read my hand writing on our hand written letters very easily. We're hoping that she gets the visa in the mail soon and then she plans on buying her ticket to come ASAP
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Before I thought I should put down that I will be sure to give my fiancee at least X dollars a month, and whatever else she needs beyond that for as long as she wants or needs anything from me (or something from that nature). It just sounds weird though. I really don't understand what they're asking for in question 11. I mean, we're getting married, we're not setting up payment plans. We both promise to take care of each other however we can.
Also, my parents are co-sponsors since I'm a student. Should they put something down for question 11? They don't plan to make a specific contribution, but they will offer room and board if needed (for that matter, I'm ALSO offering room and board, so its double covered).
What is this question really asking? Have other people in a similar situation filled this out with anything useful? It seems like a really strange question. Thanks!!!!
-Tim
Click yes !
And write!
Whatever it takes to support her like the queen/king he/ she is "until death do us part".
They ask for a specific amount though. I feel like no matter what I say, either they'll say - that's insane, you can't afford it. Or, that's not enough, she'll starve! Hmm...
-Tim
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Before I thought I should put down that I will be sure to give my fiancee at least X dollars a month, and whatever else she needs beyond that for as long as she wants or needs anything from me (or something from that nature). It just sounds weird though. I really don't understand what they're asking for in question 11. I mean, we're getting married, we're not setting up payment plans. We both promise to take care of each other however we can.
Also, my parents are co-sponsors since I'm a student. Should they put something down for question 11? They don't plan to make a specific contribution, but they will offer room and board if needed (for that matter, I'm ALSO offering room and board, so its double covered).
What is this question really asking? Have other people in a similar situation filled this out with anything useful? It seems like a really strange question. Thanks!!!!
-Tim
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Tim,
I think it would be prudent for you to have your own sponsorship package available in the event that it is asked for. The consular officer may ask to see it, since you are the petitioner, and determine for themself that you are not a suitable sponsor before moving on to someone else.
Use of I-134 is optional at the discression of the consular officer. They seem to exercise their discression to require it 100% of the time when a sponsor is involved. But that's not my point - my point is that I-134 is only 1 of many documents that can make up the sponsorship package.
Good question as to how to use one I-134 when two people whose finances are co-mingled are involved. I would say yes, fill in both names where a name is asked for, and provide a combined total where numbers are asked for. Use an attachment to show the makeup of the total when necessary or desireable to promote understanding. All numbers provided will have to be supported with appropriate documentation.
Yodrak
Thanks a lot for your help. Aside from squeezing in two names on all the blanks, I think this gives a good idea of how to complete the I-134 for my parents. I'll also provide my own so that they have it for reference. One last question my dad asked me was about assets in the form of funds my parents have through their jobs. My mom and dad both have assets through work that have cash value if they wanted to cash them in, and they can provide the documentation stating the value, but there's only one blank on the form. If they put the total of theirs combined and then write on an attachment how this total is divided up and provide the documentation, would this be clear enough? Though I have my own apartment, they also wish to put that they'd be willing to offer room and board at my house - even though we won't really need it, is it still good that they put this down? We won't need to use it, but they do have the space here.
Also, I'm kind of in transition from being a dependent to a non-dependent of my parents (by their next tax filing, I'll no longer be a dependent, but I was on the last one). I do live at my own place and I am pretty much entirely supported by student loans and scholarships. i do go home from time to time and sleep on the couch and eat their food. Would it be smart for me to be a partial dependent on their sheet just to be safe? I know that their income will cover both myself, my fiance, and them, so it shouldn't cause a problem with the money part. Just not sure the right way of declaring myself.
Heh, it feels sort of strange because actually, when I go to HK, my fiance supports me (she graduated a year earlier than I will and has already been working for a while). I feel more like she should be able to prove that she can come and take care of me to make sure I don't become dependent on the state =/
Thanks again for all your help!
-Tim
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Tim,
A couple of important points:
- It's current, sustainable, income that is most important. Expressed on an annualized basis.
- Income history is often an indication of sustainability, but sometimes (as in your case) not.
- Future income is not a certainty. You may like your odds for getting a future job, the government wants more certainty in the form of a job in hand.
- Income (or assets that can be readily turned into cash) is what is under consideration, expenses are not under consideration.
- I-134 is not the document for demonstrating financial ability to sponsor, it is a document for demonstrating financial ability to sponsor - one of many documents that can be submitted. Submit whatever is necessary and appropriate to accurately depict the proposed sponsor's financial situation.
From the information that you have presented in your post it appears that you are not going to be your fiancee's sponsor for her visa - you do not have the means. Your parents may be suitable sponsors.
Yodrak
So then should I consider not filling out an I-134 at all for myself? I was under the impression that the I-134 was required on a list of papers to bring in packet 3 for the interview. My other question still is for my parents, since they are married, how do they go about filling out at I-134 jointly? Fill in both names on each blank? They share bank accounts, but they each have a separate substantial income. My dad's alone is probably enough, but I think that having my mom's present would also be helpful since their relation to my fiance is more distant than mine. I read in the pinned post that the relation of the sponsor is important as well as their financial ability. Is future father/mother in law a good relation?
Thanks for your help so far!
-Tim
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Hello,
I've read a lot of threads on the I-134 and perhaps after reading so many I start to feel even more nervous about what is right and what is wrong. I wanted to sort of run through everything to see if I'm on the right track. First here's my situation:
I'm a full time student graduating in December. My fiance hopes to come to U.S. in August (we've had NOA2 already and the packet 3 should be arriving for her soon). I do not have much of a yearly income. I will be starting a summer internship that pays well, but in only 12 weeks, I will not make 125% of the poverty line for a year (close though, so I still want to offer this information to the consulate). After December I will be starting a full time job that is not known at the time, but going by salary averages for my major from my school and my past experience, I am confident we won't have any problems. My parents are offering to co-sponser, but they're not sure how to go about filling out the I-134 jointly since it has blanks for one person who has one job. Their income and value in their house and bank accounts should be enough to cover the requirement, and since their relation is going to be parents in law to my fiance when she comes, we think their sponsorship will be looked on favorably. We hope anyway.
So my questions are:
Is the fact that my co-sponser is the only one that matters going to hurt me? I will include information from my internship once it starts, but it is a temporary job. Should I try to put a letter explaining I'm graduating in December? Also, should I explain that I already have the rent for my apartment which is of considerable size for two people paid? To be honest, its hard to buy food for one person as it is, and I usually have trouble not wasting it when I shop, so I don't see us being in any kind of trouble just living off my student loans (my fiance also has some savings since she can't work right away). How else can I explain this to the immigration officials, or should I even try?
How do my parents file a I-134 jointly since there's only blanks for one name? Should they just try to squeeze everything in with a "and" in between it? I'm sure an attached letter explaining the situation would be helpful. Is this the route we should go?
Last question is, is my situation likely to get denied since even though my co-sponsers can cover it, my situation won't really be looked at as stable?
Thanks a lot for any answers you can give me. This has been really hard for me to figure out, so any help from other's experiences I can get helps to make me worry less and will get me on the right path in gathering all this information. Thanks!!!
-Tim
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Hello,
Does anyone know the forms that are needed to be sent back with the application you send to the consulate itself after NOA2 (the beneficiary sends). I know that birth certificate, various papers about children and divorces, police certificates, and financial support evidence are listed. However, I've heard that many of these are not sent back with the packet, but actually brought later to the interview. Does anyone have a good list of what is normally sent back with the application and what needs to be collected by the interview? Or is this specific to the consulate? In the latter case, does anyone know the situation for Hong Kong? Thanks!!
-Tim
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How do you find out when NVC gets your stuff after you get NOA2? Will it give you another notice?
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Thanks for the congrats earlier in the day. It is strange though, I saw my first touch late last night, then very early this morning the thing changed to approved, but it said approved May 1. So they obviously update the online thing at a different time than they actually make the approval. It might be a good idea in that case to make a call.
I hope the rest of you get approvals soon. I was feeling bad because it does set us back a total of 10 or so days longer than we had planned on for being approved (we'd hoped for at least the average). I wanted to have a couple more weeks while I'm still working in Chicago to spend with my fiancee when she gets here, because after that we'll be somewhere boring for a while (she's used to a bigger city).
I think it helps a lot if you have travel plans to go see your fiance/fiancee during this wait. We're hoping that at this point, we have no more than 3 months left in the entire process before she gets her visa, and I'm going this month to visit - the 2 months after that will be the shortest time we've been apart since we first had to be apart. It helps a lot to have some approximate date. When things just seem like they're taking an unknown amount of time, its never fun.
I wish those waiting the best of luck in getting their approvals.
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Got another touch and I think NOA2 this morning. It says our application has been approved on the status. Is that NOA2?
-Tim
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Came home from a rough day to find that someone obviously read my post earlier today - we got touched.
-Tim
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Hummmmm...
I wish at least I'd get a touch. I'm worried I'll go to see my fiancee on May 13 still with no NOA2
-Tim
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I think every day that passes increases the probability of such a jump.
Call me a pessimist, but I don't think queues are probabilistic. The further behind we get here in January, the further behind everyone gets for eternity. To be honest, I'd much, much, much rather go to my fiancee's country - especially since that government moves fast. They just have more strict rules about working when you're not a citizen
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Does anyone know why worker visas get processed faster than say, fiance or spouse visas? For some reason it seems like the priorities are surprisingly the opposite of what I thought they were. But there could be some good logic behind this. Does anyone know what it is?
I693 Vaccination Problems
in Adjustment of Status (Green Card) from K1 and K3 Family Based Visas
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Sorry if it seems like we're reposting the same question. I have searched on here, and before posting, I even called USCIS. Its all the contradicting stuff that makes me post again to be sure. This site isn't official, and when I asked if she could have vaccinations done at any clinic and have the information transfered, a girl at USCIS told me that that was illegal and seemed angry with me (this was yesterday). I know that those people on the help line really don't know what is going on, but I still have to double check because its important stuff (they SHOULD know what's going on). (During our I-129F thing they told us all kinds of crazy contradicting stuff on that help line).
To be honest, I wouldn't care to even pay $300 for a medical if it wasn't a hassle to my wife and if I wasn't scared we'd be submitting the WRONG thing. USCIS suggested I start faxing the instruction page 4 of I-485 to doctors offices and ask for the doctor to review it. The hard thing is, it seems in my area, is that you have to pay to ever actually speak to a doctor - even on the phone. They really refuse to let you speak to the doctor over the phone, and the counter people just keep repeating the policy on their papers and interrupt you when you try to explain the situation to them. Once so many people have told you you're wrong, you have to post to ask for yourself to make sure there's not something different in your situation that someone may be able to point out (like for example, maybe because we don't have a copy of the I-693, our case is different from people who do - many people get a copy from the clinic as well). So that's the reason I post the question again.
We'll be firm on this and try to keep shopping around. One thing that I NEVER find answered (aside from just by posters based on experience) is:
How do we know what shots she needs? Is there any guideline we can look up ANYWHERE that explains what shots she will need to have so that at least we know what we need to get done at the county department of health office. The people there don't even know what immigration is (its not their job to), and so they can never tell you what is being looked for it seems. USCIS also says that can't tell me that information (on the phone they've said this at least). I think posting a list of "shots you need" with links to some supporting evidence of the validity of such a list would be very helpful to users like myself and others.