kind_heart

It is very sad to read about your ailing wife.

I pray to God she recovers.

In case God takes her back, you can still apply; Read this note from a US embassy website;

Spouse of a Deceased United States Citizen

A widow/widower of a U.S. citizen may file an immigrant visa petition, form I-360, on his/her own behalf in the immediate relative category if he/she had been married to the U.S. citizen for at least two years, was not legally separated at the time of death and has not remarried. To qualify, the petition must be filed with the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) within two years of the death of the U.S. citizen.

Dear Sirs,

I am a Jordanian citizen and married to an American. We got married in 2001 in Greece and we have lived in the Middle East since then. We never applied for an immigration visa for me because we were told that my wife, the American, has to be residence in the US and has to have a job, properties ...etc in the US before she could be eligible to fill papers for me.

We applied for a visit visa for me and I got it two years ago. It is still valid until March 2007. My wife was diagnosed with cancer three months ago and was given 6 to nine months to live. We don't have children. We are planning to come to the US to seek alternative therapy for my wife.

I am trying to find out what we can do for me while we are in the states. Could we apply for a green card under the circumstances? What if my wife passes away before the interview? Would I be granted a visa again after my wife passes, given the fact that I was denied a visit visa four times before I got it in 2005?

Thanks ManuNSam. This is surely invaluable piece of info.

KIND_HEART and For all those searching for how to get police clearance certificates in delhi (other than from passport office)

you dont go to the district police office - although you need clearance from the district police office.

you have to go to the Deputy Commisioner of Police for your District

Take iwht you the documentation from the embassy that you need a police clearance certificate for immigration, a copy of your passport, and proof of residence.

The paper you complete with them, goes to the district police office.

then the district police officer comes to your neighborhood/house, does his routine, and then sends the form back to the Deputy Commisioner.

then you go pick it up

we havent gotten ours back yet - but they told us a week.

In order to know we were supposed to go to the Deputy Commissioner, we had to call my husbands AUnt that lives in Canada. She used to be a police officer here in India, so she called her friend here which she used to work with, who in turn called another friend. I dont know how other people in the past have figured this out.

sam

ManuNSam,

Thanks for your replies.

I have plans to get married in Delhi now.

Just getting ready with all the info well ahead of time.

I know about the passport office certificate but I am thinking about the local police certificate to be obtained from the police station in the area of our residence. I'd appreciate if you can post his experience when your husband gets his.

Hypothetical situation;

Indian national man in US on a B1/B2. Marries his USC GF in US . USC GF(now wife )applies for an Entry visa(long term visa) at Indian embassy in US

on the basis of wife of an Indian national.

Kind_heart

i read the post some more and caught something i think you might want to check on. I am fairly certain that if you want to apply DCF at Delhi, you have to have married in INDIA. you cannot apply DCF if you married elsewhere.

My husband and I went to thailand in august and nearly got married there. only thing that stopped us was reading someplace that we couldnt apply dcf if we did so. but i cant find that info again - i just went looking for it.

I think you should email delhi and ask them, im 99% sure on this one.

sam

Thanks a lot for that information.

Since you did DCF at Delhi, did your Indian spouse get the police certificates from Delhi too?

I wish to know about obtaining DISTRICT police certificate in Delhi.

Hi

I just filed my I 130 at Delhi. The rule is more strict for the 90 days than the FRRO. In fact - the FRRO would not let me register with a tourist visa, said i had to change to X visa. SInce this would take so long....i called the embassy and got to speak to someone. they said i qualified since i have been here for longer than 90 days.

FUnny thing is that when we got the embassy - even the security guards ask you - do you have FRRO? I said no, but i already spoke with (name of guy i spoke to) and he said i could apply. THen after getting the back room (CIS area) the lady came out 2 times and reminded everyone they need this FRRO.

When i got to the window i told her i idnt have it but i spoke with so and so and they said i qualifed. She said yes, you have been here more than 90 days (she was looking at my papers).

so ---- to those of you trying this the length of time is more important than anything else. I had no FRRO certificate. ANd all my bills i put in the packet, she just gave them back to me. she gave me back my 2nd copy of the packet i made as well.

SInce i was last in line i got to watch about 6 other couples. Many did not have FRRO. Many were here less than 90 days. Everyone less than 90 days was sent packing.

sam

My question to those who have done DCF Delhi

DO they send you a paper with your case #?

she gave me the Packet 3 while we were at the window. but, she didnt give me a case#. wheni looked at the papers we have to enter the case #. where does it come from? my only guess was that they send it to us later?

she actually never said at the window "your approved" but she sent us to pay the $190 fee which i assumed meant i was approved.

anyone have info for me?

sam

Thanks everyone for your replies.

TO DELHIGUY,

*I live in PITAM PURA ( Northwest Delhi), the name of the distt p.s. is Saraswati Vihar Police station.

Any experiences?

* I had a chance to look at a passport office certificate obtained by a relative, there is no expiry date on it.

Do you know when both the certificates expire?

Hi,

Having seen a few people apply for and get their district police certificates, as well as helping someone out in one, I can tell you that it wouldn't take you too many days to get one, really depends on the police station you apply at/amount of haggling you gotto do....probably paying some "token moeny" to get it done quick, otherwise they won't help you at all. Since I dont know anyone who did a DCF, I wouldnt know the timeline, but maybe when you know there are a few weeks off from your interview would be the best time.

If you can let me know the particular Delhi police station you would visit, I could help you better, maybe it's a police station already visited by someone here...

Thanks Raj.

I am not worried about the passport office cert. ; it is straightforward here in Delhi too. But I am thinking about the distt. certificate.

Have you applied for the distt. police certificate in mumbai yet? If yes, can you tell me your experience; who is the guy to approach at the distt police station and what all do they ask for?

It will give me some idea for applying at Delhi.

*Can anyone please tell me when is the best time in relation to the DCF process, to get DELHI police certificates for DCF in Delhi? Is it ok to get them before I-130 filing?

*How long does it take to get them from the passport office and police in Delhi?

*Is there an expiry date on them?

Got your PM. Although, we filed DCF from Delhi, my wife is from Mumbai and so now we will be dealing with Mumbai consulate...so I am not in position to answer exactly for Delhi area.

However, in my opinion, best time to act for police certi and other stuff is right after you successfully filed DCF at delhi. That way you know that the DCF process has already started and you need to get all docs in order.

FYI, police certificate, I have heard from others, are usually valid for six months.

In mumbai, passport office gives you police certi next day once you apply and district police office gives you after one month once you apply. We are yet to receive both of them so can't answer abt expiry date on them.

Hope this helps...

-Raj

Thanks for taking the time to reply but my passport was issued more than 6 months ago. Refering to the passage pasted by you, it means

I need a local police certificate as well.

Dont bother with getting one at the local police office, the consulate prefers the ones from the Passport Office.

POLICE RECORD

Indian Police Clearance Certificates should be obtained as follows:

All Indian IV applicants aged 16 and above, residing in India, should obtain police certificates from the local Passport Office. These are usually more dependable than those obtained at a local level and indicate that the subject had no serious criminal convictions on record at the time of passport issuance. Applicants whose Indian passport was issued within the past six months may present just the Passport Office Police Certificate, and need not obtain additional police clearances.

Applicants over age 16, whose passports were issued more than six months previous to visa application, must also obtain a police clearance from the District Police Office serving the applicant's place of residence.

Indian passport holders applying for visas outside India should obtain a statement from their local embassy or consulate confirming they have no criminal record.

Non-Indian IV applicants residing in India should obtain police certificates from the District Police Station serving their area of residence.

Indian police certificates are not available for foreign (non-Indian) applicants applying outside India.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/reciprocity/C...der/I/India.htm (State Department)

Obtaining a Police clearance certificate from the passport office in Delhi is not a problem but

what about the local Delhi police certificate?

Who is the right guy to contact at the police station and how much time does it take?

Thanks Pelle.

I'd be concerned with Delhi, India.

I think it really depends on the consulate. Here in Copenhagen they actually prefer that you do so as I guess it saves them work.

We were told to bring both parts of DS-230 and the OF-169 with us when filing the I-130. But you really need to verify this with your embassy as it seems like every embassy has different rules. What embassy are you filing at? Maybe someone here has experience there.

A piece from the DCF guide on this forum maintained by meauxna;

If you have all of the documents for the petition + visa application ready at your first visit to the Consulate (to file the I-130) you may persuade the Immigrant Visa workers to accept the visa application early and start a provisional file for you.

Could you please elaborate on this? What documents can we possibly submit for the visa application with

the I-130 petition?

*Can anyone please tell me when is the best time in relation to the DCF process, to get DELHI police certificates for DCF in Delhi? Is it ok to get them before I-130 filing?

*How long does it take to get them from the passport office and police in Delhi?

*Is there an expiry date on them?

Hello aussiewench, what is the evidence and where please?

Cyprus is ruled out; " novotul" a USC, described in a different post that the embassy refused them DCF in cyprus with both getting married in cyprus as visitors.

Actually I am sure someone was recently talking about Cyprus (help, Meauxna??! ) being rather relaxed on residency requirements, not sure of anywhere else.

Residents of BOTH countries? THAT relaxed? hmmmm......

There is evidence of it, yes.

Anyplace in the world they do DCF for both USC and spouse as visitors?

Thanks for answering the marriage part.

But I am still thinking about "residency in India part".

Please read this from US embassy Delhi website;

Q. Who can file Form I-130 [Petition for Alien Relative] at the USCIS Office in New Delhi, India?

A. A. U.S. citizen who is a resident of India can file Form I-130 on behalf of his/her spouse, parents and child (less than 21 years old) at this Office. Normally, a Residential Permit issued by the Government of India would suffice as proof of residence in India.

On another page they say;

In most instances a finding of residency cannot be made with less than 90 days continuous presence in India.

So, where does the "6 month stay" come from? I think the 90 day stay they mentioned is for those MOST INSTANCES , where the USC enters India on a short term visitor visa to get married to the Indian national.

In most cases it would probably take more than 90 days to get married, have the marriage registered in court and then apply for a residency permit on the basis of marriage to an Indian national.

In other

LESS COMMON INSTANCES, if a USC enters India on a long term employment visa and gets

registered with FRRO and gets a residency permit , say in the first month of his/her stay, I think he/she

should be able to file in the first month showing his resident permit and ongoing employment in India.

Any thoughts anyone?

DCF = Direct Consular Filing. It concerns the filing of the I-130 at the Embassy/Consulate/USCIS Field Office overseas instead of in a US Service Center.

Local marriage is not a requirement in India.

Local residence IS. The USC must be resident in India, for 6+ months.

Would it be possible to do DCF in Delhi if the USC and Indian spouse got married in US and returned to India?

Thanks Novotul for your reply. Now I am sure cyprus is not an option for my DCF.

I am a USC who contacted the US Embassy in Cyprus about the possibility of a DCF. My fiance is Russian, resides in Russia while I live in the States. They were clear that they would not let us apply for a DCF while in Cyprus if we got married there. A K3 interview would have been in Cyprus while a CR1 interview would have been in Moscow.

It also turned out that she did not want to marry me in Cyprus. Friends of hers had had not so pleasant experiences in Cyprus.

We're taking a different path to get married.

Thanks Raj0000.

Anyone know if it is possible to file DCF at Delhi before 90 days of USC stay?

Hypothetical situation;

Indian national man in US on a B1/B2. Marries his USC GF in US . USC GF(now wife )applies for an Entry visa(long term visa) at Indian embassy in US

on the basis of wife of an Indian national. USC wife enters India on the long term entry visa with his Indian

national husband. After entering India she right away registers with FRRO and gets a resident permit.

With this resident permit she files DCF right away at US embassy in Delhi. Resident permit in India, as the embassy states is enough to file DCF at Delhi.

Anyone think this is possible? Or there could be problems with this?

I am hard pressed for time so I am looking for ways to substantially reduce that minimum 90 day USC residency period in Delhi.

Any experiences on what is the total time period from I-130 filing to visa in hand at Delhi?

aprox. time 3 months after filing DCF.

Any experiences on what is the total time period from I-130 filing to visa in hand at Delhi?

Thanks again meauxna.

I read about cyprus on Gary Bala's DCF website.

Thanks also for raising a very valid point about US immigration history(I have a history of overstaying in US about 11 yrs ago, which the US embassy in Delhi knows about.) In view of that, I should think about Indian DCF but it will take much longer in India.

USC should be living in India on a long term visa for at least 90 days before he/she can file a DCF and it will take another 2-3 months for DCF processing.

Thanks meauxna.

The impression I got from the Cyprus (nicosia) US embassy website is that their I-130 " preprocessing"

results in a speedy immigrant visa.

Do you think it is a good idea to go to and get married in a strange country like cyprus just for a fast

I-130 processing? I am an Indian national and my girl friend is an american.

Any thoughts?

I think that the USC should read the Guide and contact Nicosia. If you decide that you MUST have a Cypriot beach wedding (hint hint) they may accomodate two young lovers who can't bear to be separated. Have your USC read Nicosia's website carefully and thoroughly.

If you have any US immigration history, or anything that would make her petition questionable, you will probably be better off processing in your home country. If your GF can come live in India for awhile, you can file locally there---you really don't say enough about your situation for ideas.

How did you hear about Nicosia's policy anyway?

Thanks meauxna.

The impression I got from the Cyprus (nicosia) US embassy website is that their I-130 " preprocessing"

results in a speedy immigrant visa.

Do you think it is a good idea to go to and get married in a strange country like cyprus just for a fast

I-130 processing? I am an Indian national and my girl friend is an american.

Any thoughts?

Is DCF possible in cyprus when both the USC and the spouse are visitors to cyprus and get married in

cyprus?

US embassy website in cyprus requires the beneficiary to be a cyprus resident but there is a suggestion

on another DCF site that

the two could request preprocessing as visitors.

Any thoughts?

It's been done before. More than once. I don't know that it is standard practice, but it has been done.

Read the Guide, make the call.

DCF Guide

Is DCF possible in cyprus when both the USC and the spouse are visitors to cyprus and get married in

cyprus?

US embassy website in cyprus requires the beneficiary to be a cyprus resident but there is a suggestion

on another DCF site that

the two could request preprocessing as visitors.

Any thoughts?