SaroryH

Aren't I lucky to be your target today? I believe this is my second honor of the day.

I think there is a HUGE difference between physically meeting a man and his family even if it's for a few weeks or months and not meeting them at all. Now you tell me...would YOU petition for your now husband if you never met him in person? I'm highly doubting you would. As far as I'm concerned you can't even be engaged unless you meet in person.

I agree..this is one hell of a risky situation even if you have met your SO in person. I love my husband dearly but if I had it to do all over again...I'd step away from the computer.

what if this dude gets here and he turns out to be not what he portrayed himself to be? I dunno..I wouldn't risk it.

Caution...I am especially crabby today...........

I know arguing isn't nice, but this is basically the same risk we all took (or are taking). I just don't think anymore that you can say that playing house for about a week, a year before really plugging him in to the family, is that much better than petitioning him right in. I just don't like seeing the op get judged here because they could meet 10 times, and he'd still be a stranger on her doorstep. (if you don't think so, yours just isn't here yet) and we don't know that he has a military "problem". Military contract-commitment just might be a more accurate description so..... all I'm saying is it probably isn't appropriate to criticise the op's decisions on the matter because it's probably no more nuts than the filing as soon as you meet once..

the guy here just might be getting bad advise from the guys around him that don't know jack about immigration, and feed him scary lies about the border.

I will do it and I will do it again. He is worth it. You're entitled to your opinion and I appreciate it.It makes me think for a minute but I don't doubt his love.

what if this dude gets here and he turns out to be not what he portrayed himself to be? I dunno..I wouldn't risk it.

Caution...I am especially crabby today...........

I know arguing isn't nice, but this is basically the same risk we all took (or are taking). I just don't think anymore that you can say that playing house for about a week, a year before really plugging him in to the family, is that much better than petitioning him right in. I just don't like seeing the op get judged here because they could meet 10 times, and he'd still be a stranger on her doorstep. (if you don't think so, yours just isn't here yet) and we don't know that he has a military "problem". Military contract-commitment just might be a more accurate description so..... all I'm saying is it probably isn't appropriate to criticise the op's decisions on the matter because it's probably no more nuts than the filing as soon as you meet once..

the guy here just might be getting bad advise from the guys around him that don't know jack about immigration, and feed him scary lies about the border.

I agree... I'm not for judging the OPs relationship... You can be married to someone for 10 years and not know them while on the other hand there are plenty of people around the world who married after meeting once or twice in person (maybe never) and have a perfectly content marriage

There should be a warning on VJ that if you choose to post, however, you are at extreme risk of being ripped to shreds

Thank you , youre absolutely right. I can only say that our relationship is not common but it makes us very happy. God knows best!

Had this thought about the possibility of a wavier-

With the current status of diplomatic relations between teh US and Libya, it does create a unique situation. My understanding is that the USC citizen needs to obtain a visa for travel to Libya but can only obtain it through a third country. There are other difficulties as the OP expressed- usually someone in Libya has to issue the invitation. If your fiance truely has extenuating circumstances that cause hardship to you that might not be easily explained here, you might be able to prove a waiver is appropriate.

I think the trick with such a wavier is that it has to be written out so precisely that facts are presented to support the USCIS guidelines. This is when a well qualified lawyer might be a great benefit to your case. If I were you, I would be hesitant to write the wavier myself. I would want a stronglegal agrument to adress it in terms USCIS would acknowledge.

Worse case scenario is the waiver asking for the exempting from having met is rejected. You would then have to find a different avenue to move forward. Given the difficulty being in Libya creates for the two of you, I imagine it is going to difficult the whole way through- especially when it comes to security checks after the interview level. You fiance might find himself on a list which could prohibit him from entering due to the problems the US had had with Libya in the past. I don't want to frighten you. I just want you both to understand the difficulties you MIGHT face.

Also I was just wondering is your fiance Libyan? a Libyan citizen?

Good luck!

Yes, he is a Libyan citizen and we hired an attorney today. Well the restrictions to Libya were removed but the US have not opened an embassy as it was announced in 45 days.We are scared but everyone here has been very nice and supportive. I will appreciate if you continue to post and help us and also if someone that has gone through something similar with a Libyan citizen can post. I guess our journey will be somewhat harder than others. Will try to plan for Cairo then, although it poses a great risk.

I was just asking my husband about this situation with Libya last night because his cousin is married to a Libyan (man) and is living in Libya. He had no problems leaving Libya to come to Morocco to visit several times. There also is a man from our mosque who is from Libya. I'm not sure the auspices of how he came to the US but I do know that he can never return to Libya or he will be imprisioned, maybe it was asylum or some other reason that he left. So then my question is - is your fiance ready to never return to Libya - ever? As a few have said if he is having problems traveling even to other ME or NA countries how is he going to A) get out for the interview B) if he does get the visa, leave the country? So maybe if these circumstances are as severe as has been implied you would be better offer to petition for an asylum visa vs. a fiance visa? I think I would contact an attorney.

Yes, we did hire an attorney today. An yes he is prepared to not return ever.

Can he not travel to a Libya friendly country nearby? Is there a money or military issue? I wish I had an asnwer but there are other petitioner's here with fiance's in Libya. I am sure they will have some good advice.

Iam sure you probably have seem this page. US travel to Libya has relaxed over the last year or so.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_951.html

Yes there is a military issue. We don't know what to do. The main thing is that if he does come out to meet, he cannot return. Then he cannot stay in the country we meet because it will have a time limit before someone misses him back home(you know what I mean) and the visa will take a long time.

I agree - I think that the odds of you getting a waiver are basically 0% - and not to pry but would you want to bring someone here having never met them? I know there are other people with fiance's from Libya and I think that one has even gone to Libya to visit. As has been said travel to Libya has been loosened - I'm not sure why he would be jailed upon return but maybe you can provide an idea/answer (USCIS will need an amazing and well documented one if you decide to go the waiver route). There must be some 3rd Middle Eastern country you could meet in, such as Egypt or Tunisia as has been said. Then again who knows Khadaffi is weird and I really am not a scholar of Libyan policy procedure! Whatever you decide to do - best of luck!

Yes, I know it sounds weird. Our families were reluctant in the beginning but, now they know and support us.

You say that he would not be able to travel outside Libya (to meet you in a third country) and then return home without the threat of imprisonment. Why ? Libyans travel outside the country all the time.

Perhaps the OP's fiance isn't just any Libyan.

Well I always hate to jump to hasty conclusions, although the possibility did occur to me. Perhaps the OP will return to shed some more light on their particular circumstances.

You are right about your assumption. Is there a website I can get more info about waivers?

Are the two of you able to meet in a third country? Is there any country he can go to that you can go to as well that will not cause you problems?

Not without him having to stay in that country. He cannot return to his country.

Id suggest something like a 50 caliber sniper rifle. You could aim it from about 1500 feet away and blast that little cheesedoodles head right off his shoulders.

Lol! I think you are good at riddles and puzzles.

OK...hhhhh

He can't request a visitor visa for me because he will be investigated by his government. I can't request it alone because I will get a gov't guide and he will be investigated if we meet. Sounds like a country from a novel...YES! Nobody has an idea what we go through. Furthermore he can't come out of the country because he won't be able to return (that will mean jail...definitely...and for no reason) What can we do?? Does it sound like a reason for a waiver?? I have more reasons but that's the main problem...keeping him safe and being able to meet are not compatible things. I need advice before submitting the I-129F.

Please help....

SaroryH

OK...hhhhh

He can't request a visitor visa for me because he will be investigated by his government. I can't request it alone because I will get a gov't guide and he will be investigated if we meet. Sounds like a country from a novel...YES! Nobody has an idea what we go through. Furthermore he can't come out of the country because he won't be able to return (that will mean jail...definitely...and for no reason) What can we do?? Does it sound like a reason for a waiver?? I have more reasons but that's the main problem...keeping him safe and being able to meet are not compatible things. I need advice before submitting the I-129F.

Please help....

SaroryH

It's pure old good love! God's know what we go through. We really love each other.

OK...hhhhh

He can't request a visitor visa for me because he will be investigated by his government. I can't request it alone because I will get a gov't guide and he will be investigated if we meet. Sounds like a country from a novel...YES! Nobody has an idea what we go through. Furthermore he can't come out of the country because he won't be able to return (that will mean jail...definitely...and for no reason) What can we do?? Does it sound like a reason for a waiver?? I have more reasons but that's the main problem...keeping him safe and being able to meet are not compatible things. I need advice before submitting the I-129F.

Please help....

SaroryH

SaroryH, post this question to the regional forum - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showforum=97 - you'll get more replies there.

Hahaha! You're smart.

OK...hhhhh

He can't request a visitor visa for me because he will be investigated by his government. I can't request it alone because I will get a gov't guide and he will be investigated if we meet. Sounds like a country from a novel...YES! Nobody has an idea what we go through. Furthermore he can't come out of the country because he won't be able to return (that will mean jail...definitely...and for no reason) What can we do?? Does it sound like a reason for a waiver?? I have more reasons but that's the main problem...keeping him safe and being able to meet are not compatible things. I need advice before submitting the I-129F.

Please help....

SaroryH

My fiancee and I are new to this. What evidence is good to be sent with the I-129F?

Sara