Jeanine84

2 hours ago, Hank_ said:

No issue with not having the old U.S. passport.

 

I understand she has her recognition as a Philippine citizen (dual citizen).   But she entered the Philippines as a USC.    

 

Do check into this, don't leave it for the last minute.

I only assume that she has nothing to pay because I was in the same situation as her entering on a us passport and then I got my recognition in the philippines and left with both and didn’t have to pay fees as I was told it was retroactive , I did pay previously to my recognition overstay fees but after I got it I didn’t have to pay when I left.  And there was a good 3 years of fees I would have had to pay.

1 hour ago, Hank_ said:

No issue with not having the old U.S. passport.

 

I understand she has her recognition as a Philippine citizen (dual citizen).   But she entered the Philippines as a USC.    

 

Do check into this, don't leave it for the last minute.

Ok thank you. I will have them check into it.

1 minute ago, Hank_ said:

 

Entering the USA is not a problem.. all that is needed is her blue passport.

 

Your daughter does not have her Philippine passport?   Dang!

 

As an exiting USC she will have to get the ECC from BI, being she has been there for quite a long time this fee could be "large".   How large?  Check with BI on this to find out the fee.

 

If your daughter had her Philippine passport this would negate the need for the ECC and the most that would need to be paid is the Travel Tax of P1620.

 

If possible acquire her Philippine passport before exiting the Philippines

She has a recognition as Philippine citizen  (identification certificate)

So she will not have overstay fees as she’s a Filipino citizen

Im asking if it will be an issue that she does not have her original passport with entry stamp to philippines 

So she will be exiting on her new current us passport with identification certificate (Filipino)

thank you

Thank you

i guess I should re phrase this, 

if it will be an issue with Philippine immigration upon departure that I do not have her passport with entry to the philippines or  is her current us passport and recognition certificate enough since she’s a Filipino she wouldn’t have over stay fees

I’m probably posting this in the wrong forum but I cannot seem to find the correct one please move if applicable thank you

ok my daughter is a us citizen and Philippine citizen she has dual citizenship. She has a us passport and a identification certificate as a Filipino citizen. She has been in the philippines for the past 10 years (she’s 12 years old) her us passport has been renewed twice since being in the philippines.

If she were to go to the USA can she just present her current US passport and identification certificate as a Filipino citizen?

We do not have her first us passport which has her entry stamp into the philippines I hope this will not be a problem as she is a dual citizen now.

Thank you

1 hour ago, Hank_ said:

For citizenship it is required that one parent is a Filipino at the time of birth .. The father is listed on the birth certificate, and he did sign the birth certificate at the time of birth.    So for all intent and purposes the child is a dual citizen  

 

The child did not lose Philippine citizenship at completion of CRBA..... IF he was actually considered as a Filipino at birth he is and always will be a Filipino and USC.    There is only a recognition process to complete so I have read...   Which requires your participation as you have sole custody of the child.  But it will also requires the father I am sure as acknowledgement  ++  would be required. 

 

I know of many that simple started the process for a Philippine passport and they side stepped the whole recognition thing .. but your issue is slightly different so not sure how that will go.   You are the sole custody parent, you could simple try applying for a passport for your child through the consulate that represents your state.

 

 

 

There is not a dual citizenship process .. as with a person that is naturalized.     There is not a Retention/Re acquisition.   Child never lost Philippine citizenship.

 

Child IS a Filipino by birth and doesn't loose that when CRBA is completed.      There may be a recognition process .. but that is about it.   They could have been avoided if they had gotten the Philippines passport at the same time as they were completing CRBA .. they would have avoided the ECC fees then also $$$$$$$$$$$$

Thank you for that idea of applying them passports at the consulate here, I will look into it as I plan to visit regardless to inquire about the situation. 

That is true that I could have applied a phil passport for them, however I didn’t think of it at the time.

But here’s a fact, when getting the ECC we only paid about one month in penalty (from the date of us passport issuance) not from date of birth which I’ve read all over the VJ website. The immigration officer mentioned something about both parents being Filipinos. Me a dual and the father Filipino. 

My children were born in the philippines and have crba us citizenship from the us embassy manila. As far as i understand they no longer hold philippine citizenship, please correct me if im wrong. I would like for them to be recognized as filipino citizens. I am a dual national with filipino citizenship however i was not a filipino at the time of my childrens birth so id like for their father to be the one to petition them for recognition as a filipino. Their father is a filipino citizen and carries no other citizenship.

can he do this all at he buerau of immigration philippines without the need for foreign documents from the usa? I checked the requirements https://www.scribd.com/document/139213811/Recognition-as-Filipino-Citizen  and it seems as though it is possible being that my children  carry Nso birth certificates.

When i filed for my recognition as a filipino citizen (through my mother and i was in the phil)  my mother was in the usa and had to make several trips to the philippine consulate to get papers authenticated and i would like to avoid that, but i think my case is more trying then theirs because i was us born and my mother a naturalized citizen of usa. 

i think this time around we will not have to do that being as though my childrens father is a filipino citizen at their birth until now and carries no other citizenship and they were born in the philippines. 

I'm asking because me and the children are currently in the untied states and if i need any paperwork for the recognition process id like to get it done if possible, before going back to the philippines so its ready when their father files for the recognition. 

Might i add that the father and i are not married however they do carry his last name and his name is on their nso birth certificate and he did sign the acknowledgement of paternity on their nso. 

ok can anyone help me out here.. im trying to order my cenomar bc from the e census website however when i proceed to payment through credit card it times out. Im in the usa and cant seem to find an international phone number to possibly pay via phone. anyone?? thank you

Nice! When is off peak season? 

I got my identification certificate (recognition as a Philippine citizen) 

at the end of 2016. I’m now back in the USA and want to get a Philippine passport at the consulate in sf. I saw all sorts of things about have report of birth which I think my mom may have done while she was getting requirements for my recognition. I will try seeing is Cenomar has a copy of my birth certificate now. However I’m starting to think if it will be a problem that on my certificate my name is two names. My former married name and my maiden now current name. I asked for it to purposely have both as during the time I was legally divorced already but using my ex husbands surname and my us passport was under my ex husbands name so I wanted it to match my certificate upon leaving the Philippines to avoid fees. It says AKA and then my current legal name. I plan to apply under my legal name do you think they will ask information about my previous marriage and divorce? Both were not registered in the Philippines. Both occurred abroad in United States and ended before I became recognized as a citizen. Thanks for any input.

17 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

 

 Balikbayan stamp... the immigration agent when entering the Philippines writes BB in your passport and dates it  IF you request it.   

 

You are entering and exiting as a U.S. citizen being you don't present a Philippine passport, the BB stamp allows for a 1 year stay in the Philippines without a visa .. or issues.    You're a dual citizenship, you have your recognition certificate, but you are not entering with a Philippine passport.

 

Depending on your length of stay you could be required to pay the Travel Tax ... could.

Does that require a trip to immigration or is doable at airport? Thanks

15 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

 

Depends ..how long you been in the Philippines?    Did you get a BB stamp in our passport?

 

 

I have been here for almost 8 years with my last visa extention in 2014. I got my recognition phil citizen in dec 2016. 

I don't know what a Bb stamp is. 

I have a US passport and have Recognition as Philippine citizen, no Philippine passport. Is there anything i need to pay immigration wise before flight?

On 10/12/2017 at 9:03 PM, Scaret_e said:

Where is your interview at if u don’t mind me asking?

 

 

It was at us embassy manila. I got approved

On 10/21/2017 at 11:49 PM, jan22 said:

Sounds like you have worked hard to gather additional documentation.  Hope all goes well at your interview.  Do your best to stay calm and not be nervous so you can present your case clearly.  

Our crba was approved!  

11 hours ago, Scaret_e said:

Also to you also mail in the checklist for the consular report at birth abroad ??

I mailed in the checklist. 

*Bump*

Appointment coming up in few days. 

I now have passport stamps for me and my us citizen daughter at the time. May' 09 to may '10.

1040 state and federal returns for both years (thank goodness for turbo tax i had electronically filed through my ex bro in law he kept saved on file) which states me as a housewife..

One w2 from a seasonal job i picked up that Christmas.

I hope this is enough for my one year i wish i could interview already so nervous. By the way my mother mailed me these proofs from the states as im in the Philippines , this is also very costly but if it works very much worth it.

11 hours ago, jan22 said:

Do you have any records from yourself or that first child -- medical, church (baptism, confirmation, etc), dated photos from the major holidays that year (especially if they were clearly taken in the same house)?  While you, obviously, can't document every single day, all of these sorts of things will help show a pattern that becomes part of the whole picture, especially when the passport record is added to it.

 

And, I assume the child born in 2017 was born before June 11?  If after, the required documentation is different.

I see what you're saying.

Yes she was born January 2017.

Do you think my daughters expired passport will be helpful as she has the same record as i do. I dont have her birth certificate but shes listed in my divorce documents. 

I'm still looking for what i can add.

Thank you for the insight!

43 minutes ago, Scaret_e said:

What did u send and what are you missing?

Im the us citizen parent (mother) out of wedlock , so i need to prove one year in usa 365 days. 

I originally sent hs transcripts w2 and 1040 with copies of passport stamps. But i guess they want precise documentation for 365 days which im confused as how ill prove that. During my high school days i didnt even own a passport. I have some stamps on my passport that look promising but im not sure if its enough, i was a stay at home parent at the time (other child) so no job and no medical problems so no medical record. Im feeling at a loss and hope ill come up with something or theyll go easy on me with the stamps. Interview in 10 days.

On 10/11/2017 at 9:38 AM, Scaret_e said:

I have all the documents needed for the interview but I don’t have u.s. birth certificate, certificate of naturalization, nor a certificate of citizenship. 

 

But I was a citizen of the United States at the age of 14. My mother did all the process for me to become a u.s citizen. 

 

Point is are they going to give me a hard time during the interview since I don’t have those documents, all I have is my passport proving 

u.s. citizen. 

 

 

On 10/11/2017 at 9:38 AM, Scaret_e said:

I have all the documents needed for the interview but I don’t have u.s. birth certificate, certificate of naturalization, nor a certificate of citizenship. 

 

But I was a citizen of the United States at the age of 14. My mother did all the process for me to become a u.s citizen. 

 

Point is are they going to give me a hard time during the interview since I don’t have those documents, all I have is my passport proving 

u.s. citizen. 

 

 

Did you mail in your crba application with photocopies of evidence already? I mailed mine and got a quick reply with appointment date and listed things  im "missing" to bring on my appointment 10 days from now. Im stressing out because i need to find more evidence.

3 hours ago, jan22 said:

First, a quick question:  When were the children born?  Your 1 year has to have been prior to their birth.

 

Although it's a really good start, the passort alone is not enough. You may not have visited the Philippines during that period, but that doesn't prove you didn't leave the US.  You could have gone someplace else, where your passport was not stamped, during that time.  Do you have things like work records, tax records, medical records, etc. that help show you were completely US-based during that time?

 

I was a stay at home mother to my first child at that time( not the  two children for crba, she was born in the usa) i dont really have anything during that time, can only find joint tax return with my ex husband in 2008. Which i already submitted.  My children applying for crba were born in 2015 and 2017.

Ok. on my passport  in 2009 i visited the Philippines in April, my departure date from Philippines is May 01 2009 i went to the Philippines again in May 07 2010

Is that enough proof that ive been in USA for 1 year consecutive? 

May 01 2009 to May 07 2010?

Ive been in the Philippines since may 07 2010 only returning to US 12 2011 and back to Philippines 01 2012 to present. 

Thank you!

6 hours ago, jan22 said:

Somme inaccurate informati9n in Ither posts.  They most likely saw and reviewed all of your documents.  However, neither W-2s nor transcripts prove one year of continuous presence, as there are school holidays and vacations when you could have left the US. 

 

I assume the children were born before June 11, 2017 (the requirements changed then).  They are asking you for information concerning your relationship with the father to make sure they are adjudicating your case under the right section of the law.  For children born out-of-wedlock (sorry, that's the term used in the law) to a US citizen mother, the requirement prior to June 2017 is to show one full year (365 days) in which you never left the US.  You need to fill in the time of school holidays and summers or find some other way to document you did not leave the US within athe least one one-year period before the birth of your child.  This is not an easy task, but it is the requirement.

 

And, they are asking you to show evidence that you were pregnant to help confirm that the children are, in fact, your biological children.  There are a lot of fraudulent cases in the world where a woman will claim to be the biological mother of a child to gain US citizenship when the child is not actually hers by birth.

Hmm this is the first time ive heard of that particular way of documenting. Is there any references i can look at for example of just how to do that? 

I gave 4years hs transcript and 2years worth of tax return. 

I couldn't possibly graduate school if i spent all my time out of the country. ( im just saying, not trying to contradict what you said) 

I also gave passport copies of exit, i think from there you can see times i must have spent in the us.  

I will try to obtain copies of my high school report cards. I believe there is attendance in class on there. 

Thank you..

24 minutes ago, jayjayj said:

I think they overlooked something.  They are asking for some things that are only relevant if you are the father and not married.  Just take all your evidence with you and you should be fine.  Take some items proving you were pregnant, just to be safe, but I can't imagine them not accepting a certified birth certificate.

Ok. Thank you!

16 minutes ago, jayjayj said:

What did the letter say in regards to the appointment?  Did it tell you to bring the documents with you or send them in prior?  

 

Your relationship with the father shouldn't matter, as you are the U.S. citizen and the mother.  You've already establish paternity, by giving birth.  Relationship evidence would only be required if you were the father and not married to the foreign mother.

During our review of your mail-in packet, we found that you are still missing the following documents:
 
Evidence of U.S. citizen parent’s physical presence/residence in the United States – ONE year continuous
Photos of mother while pregnant
Evidence of parents’ presence in the same location at the time of conception
Additional Evidence of parents’ relationship prior to the date of conception
 
Please bring the child/applicant, photos, originals of all required documents, I.D, and all application fees with you on the day of your appointment.  Consult the attached CRBA checklist for more detailed information on the required documents. Applicants who fail to show up for their scheduled appointments will need to start the appointment request process from the beginning.

That's what was said. Do you think its possible they overlooked the us citizen parent is the mother? I have a few pregnancy check up reports with drs stamp that i had mailed in for my youngest child. I didn't include any for my oldest.