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Hello everyone.

Today we received a request for initial evidence on the form i 485 about the i864 and i was confused with some things so i hope i can get some answers.

Basically my wife who's the petitioner doesn't have a job since she's doing school since a few years now so we submitted a joint sponsor, however in the RFE we got told that the petitioner needs to file one aswell.

I Qoute:

Form I-864, Affidavit of Support was submitted; however, it was not from the petitioner/sponsor. Submit a completed and signed form i-864 for the petitioner/sponsor listed on form i-130 or form 1-29F. Even if a joint sponsor will be used the petitioner/sponsor must submit Form i-864.

and also:

Provide copies of the petitioners/sponsor's most recent federal income tax returns and all supporting tax documents (W-2, 1099, Form 2555 and tax schedules).

So if i got it right my wife needs it file i864 too even tho she doesnt have any income? and what about taxes, are they required for her to submit even though she doesn't have a job?

Does our joint sponsor need to file another i864 as support evidence for a steady income? Since the RFE didnt ask for that maybe they had no issue with the previous tax records and the i864 form of our joint sponsor so all they need is the one from my wife?

Thank you very much for any help.

Yeah don't worry Tasha, sometimes the consular just wants to delay people for no reason. If they wanted these random documents from the start they could of said so instead of giving so much anxiety to people. & Thank you!! I actually take a Web Design class at the moment. It's crazy how they want weird information from so long ago (but they wanted the same from us ). Good luck Tasha, hopefully things work out for you and everyone else that is still waiting !

Hello all, just wanted to let you guys know that my fiance was finally approved today, December 1st. We had a total of 2 interviews and today we weren't sure what he was going to get. It's long story which we will update on our timeline as soon as he is able to get his visa in 6 days. We had our first interview on Nov 3rd on short notice. We got the letter of everything he needed for the interview the day before he had to go there. We managed to get every document still because he emailed them and we were given the interview date 2 weeks prior via email. Basically in our first interview they gave him a very hard time. He got asked a lot of questions, very personal ones. Like why was I born in Hawaii or how and where did my father die. He even asked about my mother's current relationship. So if anyone is still waiting to be interviewed, know that sometimes it's not an easy cake walk. He answered all of them in English and knew everything but for some reason they didn't want to look at all the proof we had. So the consular asked that we bring additional proof to a second interview which was a specific screenshot of when we became friends on Facebook. We brought way more than that, including 3 letters that were notarized from friends saying our relationship is legit. We had hundreds of screenshots and pictures the first time around and we brought hundreds more the second. In the second interview (Nov 15th) he wasn't really asked much but it still wasn't enough. The consular ended up wanting to see my mother's benefits (even though she wasn't our sponsor) and for my fiance to write a letter stating how he will survive and support me in the US :/. We told them countless times how he will get a part time job and go to college but yeah they just wanted to delay us more. My sponsor ended up having to call them and explain that he will be supporting us until my fiance and I are able to support ourselves. Still, he brought the letter and went there today. He wasn't interviewed this time around but it was very nerve racking because people in front of him kept getting denied. In the end they said he was approved and to pick up his visa in 6 days. I'm so glad it's almost over since these days have been so hard for us. My fiance and I are both young, basically 20, so they gave us a hard time. We've been together since 2014 and I'm in college for computer science and my fiance is into tech wanting to do the same as me when he's here. My mother is letting us stay in her house which is paid off so we were surprised they gave us such a hard time since my sponsor makes well over the poverty line. There's many more details to the story but I want to just give a brief summary for people in this thread who are discouraged. Don't worry, things will work out. They give a hard time to people from high fraud countries I guess. My fiance and I met through our hobby of video editing via Youtube but our consular was questioning what that even is haha (we even brought screenshots of that too)! So keep your heads up guys! Sorry for the lengthy post.

I'm very sorry to hear this but it's not necessarily over yet. Did they keep your passport? It's good they want to see you again very quickly.

Now, I have no experience of the Skopje embassy (or of any embassy) but based on my very limited experience of this processs here is what stood out to me. How many times did she visit and for how long? Is there a big age gap between you (I'm guessing not because you both sound quite young based on your hobbies and that she is a student). Your English is very good (assuming you wrote that post yourself) so communication between you should be no problem. However, you said you included "every love message". That's what struck me. They don't need pages and pages of "I love you" and other flirtations. They need to see that you are a genuine couple who talk about genuine couple things. This is probably why he asked so many detailed questions about her family to see how well you really know each other. If she only had one short visit and all the chat logs that you supplied were just little love messages then I can see the problem. Show that you talk about future plans (not just "we are going to get married") but things about jobs, finances, and so on. Show that you talk about your families to each other. Gifts can be a red flag too - it can look like you are paying her to get you a green card. Were these gifts material things or gifts of money? Photos - too many can be harmful, I think. 60 photos from a short visit could look staged. Were they all taken on the same day and just the two of you? Any photos of her with your friends and family?

Also meant to ask if you have made previous attempts to get any sort of US visa? Even just a tourist visa?

Thanks a lot for your response!

To answer your questions: She visited me once but we stayed for a whole month together and no there isn't any age gap. Well in the screenshots of where we provided our messages there are many showing not just that, us wishing birthdays to each other and anniversaries and also much more not only 'flirtations'. But good point I'll make sure to send more random conversations between us two. I also think you missed the fact that they literally didn't take a look at any of those, not photos, not chat logs or anything until the consular said that I need to make a new appointment to submit additonal proof. We had proof of our skype chats together with both of our families, as mentioned, they probably did not look at those. I dont see how gifts like love letters and birthday/anniversary gifts can be a red flag. And no we have photos of us in many scenarios including in my house, with my family and much more.

No i have not made any previous attempts to get any sort of US visa. Thank you again for ur response

Hello everyone so yesterday i had my interview in the embassy of Skopje which went rather unexpected. I got interviewed for around 20-30 minutes getting asked with all sorts of questions. I was well prepared and i went there confident in myself even though the stress of the interview was obviously there, first i had to submit my documents and was told to wait, at that time i was still having all my documents in hand the service guy just kinda arranged them for me, then i got called in the window number 9 to submit the documents and got asked very basic questions like how did I met my fiance and other stuff. Then i was told to wait. Overall I didn't wait much since i was one of the first who got inside the embassy after being called again for the actual interview, the american consular seemed like a nice guy at first, I swore that i will only tell the truth and was told to pick up the phone and so the interview started.

The first minutes were about basic questions usually, i told him how my fiance and I met through a specific hobby of ours (which was editing) and basically answering questions about her family, our joint sponsor, what we did during the time she visited me, where we went and more. Which i answered all of them. After that he was putting something on his computer when i asked 'I'm sorry, i have all the chat logs, photos and additonal proof with me, Do you want to take a look at them?' He replied with 'No, its not necessary right now' which i found weird. Then he went to ask things that I really did not expect and he seemed rather judgmental that we met through this certain hobby of ours asking me what exactly is editing which i explained and he'd ask questions about my fiancees family like the age of her brother and their names. After that he asked about her parents and i told him that her father is deceased and he went to ask questions about when he died, where, and how, which i didn't expect him to ask but since I knew all of those i replied with confidence. He'd ask a lot of things I didn't really heard about in previous interviews like the names of the siblings of my parents, since when my fiancee had moved in her home she currently lives in etc. Then he asked about why do I want to go and live to the USA, why wont she live here with me if we want to be together so bad. I followed and said that we both decided to live there, as we want our new life to be there because of several reasons, my fiancee wanting to live in america in the first place and not in my country, her being a student aswell, i told him how her mother proposed to me to come and live with them in her house but he still would just kinda ask with judgment in his face and a slight smile asking that 'Yeah i get but why this and why that, she can just come with a plane tomorrow and start living with you' Which after i answered the same question was rather feeling weird from the way he'd ask and not accept the answer i gave him in the first place. After that he went on and wrote in the refusal form that i need to get additonal documents like photos and chat logs, that's when it started to get strange since he refused the first time around to check my proofs, he told me I'm not fully/entirely convinced yet so I need you to bring us chat logs and photos which i replied to with ' I have them all here' and he said okay give them to me, I gave them chat logs with more than a hundred screenshots since the time we started talking 2014-2016, gave him several of our skype video calls and around 60+ photographs we took from the time my fiance came to visit me, and last additonal information like our gifts we gave each other, letter she sent in 2015, tickets of her visit, videos we edited for each other, our new room in her home with her and her mother had worked on recently, conversations of me with her family (mother and brother) and much more which of course, he didn't even look at. After i gave him those he like scratched with his pen the area he wrote that photos and chat logs are necessary (but still it was visible he wrote 'pics' and 'chat conversations which makes all this even more confusing', then he asked me how can i get some proof that you guys did edited together etc. I showed him in the additonal information that I took a screenshot of videos we uploaded on Youtube mentioning each other (both of me and her). That was the only proof he decided to look at.

Earlier in the interview i had mentioned how we met in 2014 (which was on facebook, due to the fact we both were in the same community) and he asked can i somehow find the friend request i had sent her in 2014, and i said yes i can find it but we already have lots of messages from 2014 in our proof, he just went on to write in his letter 'friend request on fb' as additonal information that is required for me to bring in my next appointment. After he wrote that he said when you have this you can simply email the embassy for another appointment, I said do i have to attend a second interview which he replied with 'yes'. It was just kinda frustrating because all the hours we spent in gathering proof weren't even looked at and we got basically asked to bring more next time.

Both me and my fiancee were absolutely sad and depressed from what happened, we were sure everything is going to be alright since everything in our relationship is legit. We managed to find my friend request in the option 'events' on facebook from 2014 the same day, i went on to let the embassy know just few hours later that i do have it (which i sent also as attached files) and explained them my experience there and to hope that they will take all our proof into consideration and take a look at it, they replied with that they don't review information online (due to the fact i attached the screenshots of our friend request and much more in the email i sent them) they said ur next appointment will be in 15th november, which is not even two weeks from now, in 10:30 AM and that the information will be reviewed there.

I felt good that our appointment wasn't too far away but i was still confused about many things that were unanswered, i followed with another email asking if i need to pay the embassy 265$ dollars again, and what do i need to submit since in the letter he gave us which he basically just said 'facebook friend request' with 'Pics' and 'chat logs' being scratched from the consular himself. They replied saying I do not need to pay any additonal fee, as for the required documents from the embassy they said based on their information i need to submit skype chats and photos of us to the extend possible... which we thought we provided a lot in the first place.. basically almost every photo we took with each other during the whole month we stayed together and almost every love message we could find was given to them.

That's basically it, did anyone went through a situation that's similar or give us any help we can put in use for our 2nd time around? because we thought we were prepared but apparently we weren't. All we hope is they will take a look at all the proof we submitted and worked on which if they don't (because if they did i doubt they'd ask for more) would basically mean we're forced to send barely 1/10 of our proof that's left excluding everything we gave to the embassy already, which they are holding together with all our other documents except my passport.

We read something similar in one of the Skopje embassy reviews where a couple had to go through almost the same and that they think it's just a normal procedure in Skopje to refuse them the first time and let them come again.

My fiance is from Kosovo.. his interview should be within the next month or two. Your situation is concerning us. Hope we won't be faced with this same person who denied a couple of 5 years...

Hey everyone!!!! I'm super happy as I just got a notification saying our case was approved :DDD YAY! GL to everyone else still waiting

Oh I live in Central Texas. I used to not like it much but I think it's pretty nice. It's more on the rural side but it isn't too country either. I live by Fort Hood which is the biggest military base in America. I used to want to go to Sydney back when I was younger. It seems rather pretty and the education system always interested me. I like how they use uniforms too (I find it cute). Also CM&KV is right, that's basically what I've done thus far. I miss my fiance terribly as well I spent the first part of Summer with him so it was amazing. I know seasons in Australia are different though haha. Oh and with the processing, it is especially hard when you see people who file much later than you get approved before you. I'm actually a college student so I don't really have the funds to be going back and forth to Europe. It costs a lot and I have to take 3 connecting flights which is horrible. I wish you two good luck with everything! I think the minimum photo requirement is like 2 pictures? Just provide a lot of proof in any way you can and you should be good. If you don't have any tickets from your visits you can just show the passport stamps.

Actually we're still at the beginning of our process and I can tell you it's been difficult waiting. Our case has been active for 67 days so far and still no sign of our NOA2 (approval of petition). That's why I'm encouraging you to get your things started already. I've been with my fiance for 2 years only and it's hard enough so for you guys it must be very difficult . Same here, we aren't as fortunate since we are a young couple but we plan to do the same as you guys then have our big wedding in his country when he gets his green card (it's cheaper there). I still have no ring either although my mom has offered me one. I think it's more special from the person you love regardless of price. What matters is that you guys are together and seeing from how long you've made it with long distance, you both deserve it the most! I have a few friends from Australia. It always seemed so pretty there! You might find that Texas is quite conservative in comparison though.

My case has been active for 67 days already. Welp...this is taking so long. I was pretty excited at first seeing that everyone from July were starting to get approved but it seems like they're getting through the end of July first. This wait for the NOA2 is truly difficult . Anyone else who sent their petition July 5th dealing with this?

Oh definitely start preparing your documents. It's a long process that can be pretty stressful. I think the fact you two desire to marry is definitely enough to get started on gathering necessary paperwork. I don't think you need a ring either to be engaged like the above poster said. If you plan to have a big wedding, maybe consider the length of time it will take to have one. I think in America a lot of people take a year or so for such weddings? If you want to be with your boyfriend faster though I say just get married then have your "wedding" later. You both must be growing tired of the distance so I don't think there's any harm in applying for the k1 already. If time doesn't bother you and there's no rush, do whatever you feel is right.

Hello, I'm actually from Texas too. You do need to be engaged in order to petition for the fiance visa (k1). You will need to provide proof of your relationship mostly through pictures of you two together. Yes you both need to fill out the G-325A and send in originals (with your signatures). With the Alien registration #, he doesn't need to worry about that if he was born in America. If you plan on marrying once permitted the visa, aren't you guys technically engaged already? If it isn't official yet I guess it's okay to start preparing your documents already. They have a pretty detailed guide that may answer more questions here:

http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1guide

Hi everyone, first time posting in this thread. We are also feeling impatient as I sent our petition on July 5th . It's been almost three months since I saw my fiance so it's difficult. Just wanted to let everyone know that they aren't alone. Grats to everyone who got their NOA2 already .