Kakya vstrecha!
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if that were the case, why do you yammer on in your very first post about "i've read disappointing stories here on vj about being sent the outdated form and when the person showed up at the interview, they were turned away because it wasn't up to date!" ? and then again on another one "i've read countless times about people bringing in forms that were expired and being turned away THEN."
why are you yammering on about worrying about bringing expired forms if you say you weren't even sent one in the first place? if you weren't sent one in the first place, why would it even be an issue? jenn3539 says she can't even find the old one online anymore, anywhere. so why even bring it up?
honestly, there was no ds156, outdated or not, in the package casablanca sent?
exactly where on this site then does anyone mention any trouble with forms through casablanca? i want to see it. and exactly who in morocco was sent outdated forms? what is the reference point for this?
in my package sent in january of this year from casablanca, all the forms sent to me are expired in 9/2007, even the french ds156. either there's credibility issues here, or you can't articulate clearly. first you say this happened "apparently he had most of the interview before they asked for this paper. she said if he would have had it, it would have been a success." then it turns out he didnt even get past the receptionist. sorry, it's hardly "pwnage" (what are you, 12?) when the person posting this can't even relay the incident in a way that it's even possible to tell what the hell is going on. God forbid someone should actually analyse your post and find that some things just don't add up. i just want to get to the bottom of it, in the interest of possibly being of benefit for other people going through that consulate.
please
i beg of you
tell me you do NOT work for a suicide hotline.
Wow. Oscar Wilde's certainly got nothing on that acerbic wit of yours.
The same questions ocurred to me though when i was reading this thread. There's just some inconsistencies to the whole narrative that make it confusing to read and difficult to understand what actually happened. Suddenly, after closing for a month or so, Casablanca wants different forms than the ones they took a couple months ago?
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I am confused by the directions on the I-485 about where I am supposed to send our application. We live in Oregon. Does this mean we send it to that Chicago address? Or where?
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Islam doesn't teach that women were made from ribs. That's a Christian concept.
Doodle, you may be thinking of:
Permitted to you, on the night of the fasts, is the approach to your wives. They are garments for you and you are garments for them. - Quran 2.187
the confusion might stem from having read this hadith as a straight translation:
The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said: “Treat women kindly. Woman has been created from a rib and the most bent part of the rib is the uppermost. If you try to turn it straight, you will break it. And if you leave it alone, it will remain bent as it is. So treat women kindly.” (Bukhari and Muslim)
which was explained to me as being that in arabic, the words “created from” do not necessarily refer to the substance of creation; they can also refer to the nature of something. but if someone didn't know better, and just took it to mean "created from", i can see how one might get that idea, as inaccurate as it may be.
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It has been a long week already and it is only Tuesday
SOOOOOOOOO true.
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today...anything on dead kennedys' plastic surgery disasters. good listening for the long drive to school.
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it'd be far more accurate to say spillover from wretched western foreign policy all over the planet has a hand in violence spilling over into a place like morocco than trying to cite violence in algeria for it. regardless, i just don't see this gaining as strong a foothold in morocco as it has in algeria. sure there's bound to be random acts of violence. but the scale, the reaction, everything about it in morocco is so different, they're so much more different than they will ever be alike.
I would have agreed with this statement a short time ago, but Morocco has changed significantly in the last 10 years. These incidents are no longer isolated acts of violence by fringe groups. There are elements in Morocco using the issues of poverty and dissatisfaction with the establishment (not western foreign policy) to put forward their own message about western foreign policy regular moroccans would never have gone this far to defend even 4 years ago. Things are bad when Moroccans are willing to blow themselves up.
what's wrong with the statement? there's still nothing happening there, nor will there ever be, that even begins to compare to the atrocious bloodbath that was algeria beginning in the 90s and continues today. in algeria the killing then and now is completely indiscriminate. moroccans may have blown themselves up, but at this last go around they took great pains to avoid bystanders-the target were the police. completely and totally at odds with the indiscriminate violence of algeria, both before and after GSPC hooked up with "al qaeda".
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different conversation, how so? did you not say “What's happening in Alergia today with the Islamists groups are directly influencing what is happening in Morocco.”? and just how is that?
There has been worry that the groups in Algeria, which claim to have ties with Al Qaeda, will have an influence in Morocco. Yes, Algeria has had many more issues. However, Morocco is a much more appealing target due to (1) the large amount of tourists from Europe, Australia, and the US and (2) Morocco's relationship with Western governments.
Here is a quote from an Al Jazeera article just last month talking about it.
Morocco has said it had information about an al-Qaeda plot to mount an attack, but that the circumstances of the latest blast were not clear.
North African governments fear violence may spill over from Algeria after the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat renamed itself al-Qaeda Organisation in the Islamic Maghreb with the aim of fusing similar groups together.
the problem with that, is that zawahiri announced this merging of al-qaeda with the GSPC of algeria in september of 2006...over three years after the may 2003 bombings in casablanca. GICM, who have ties to al-qaeda that go back further than GSPC's do, were responsible for the attack in 2003. that one didn't have anything to do with algeria either. and for all intents and purposes anyways, GSPC as an 'algerian' group is long dead. their 40,000 members in the 90s had dwindled to a couple hundred guys scattered around the countryside. it was only after they dropped their 'exclusive to algeria' mission that they got any support from a global, international group like al-qaeda. the 'algeria' part is completely incidental. it'd be far more accurate to say spillover from wretched western foreign policy all over the planet has a hand in violence spilling over into a place like morocco than trying to cite violence in algeria for it. regardless, i just don't see this gaining as strong a foothold in morocco as it has in algeria. sure there's bound to be random acts of violence. but the scale, the reaction, everything about it in morocco is so different, they're so much more different than they will ever be alike.
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bollocks. algeria's mess with FIS and GIA are utterly specific to algeria and have nothing to do with morocco. different background, different history, different circumstances, very different political traditions. in morocco algeria's always been looked at as what not to do, and that goes for all groups. that's it and that's all as far as influence goes. and western sahara? what are you on about? yeah, algeria's supported the polisario since the seventies with arms and money and whatever, but the polisario has unflinchingly stuck to the ceasefire for 16 years. and terrorism and hurting civilians isn't really their style. it never has been, but suddenly in 2007 they start it up? under what, pressure from algeria? ridiculous.
We seem to be having two different conversations.
different conversation, how so? did you not say “What's happening in Alergia today with the Islamists groups are directly influencing what is happening in Morocco.”? and just how is that? the two biggest, most influential groups in morocco, the PJD and al adl wal ihsan, have always made it a point to talk about how different they are from the FIS in algeria. they want nothing to do with FIS and have gone to great lengths to express how much they oppose any and all violence. les éradicateurs are a marginal presence at best in morocco, and the huge differences in algeria’s and morocco’s history just doesn’t provide the same proclivity for political violence that algeria’s does.
and so what connection were you trying to draw then by citing algeria’s support for the polisario then? yr right, there are political difficulties, but even at its height it never devolved into the vileness of suicide bombing. there’s no mitigating circumstances to suggest they would all of a sudden start up now with it. yr probably much much more on track when you cited the grinding poverty and appalling rates of unemployment being factors than anything going on with neighbours to the east.
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bollocks. algeria’s mess with FIS and GIA are utterly specific to algeria and have nothing to do with morocco. different background, different history, different circumstances, very different political traditions. in morocco algeria’s always been looked at as what not to do, and that goes for all groups. that's it and that's all as far as influence goes. and western sahara? what are you on about? yeah, algeria’s supported the polisario since the seventies with arms and money and whatever, but the polisario has unflinchingly stuck to the ceasefire for 16 years. and terrorism and hurting civilians isn’t really their style. it never has been, but suddenly in 2007 they start it up? under what, pressure from algeria? ridiculous.
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that's a rather pedestrian analysis. what does algeria's rubbish have to do with morocco? morocco had no "battle of algiers" and the aftereffects of colonialism in those countries couldn't be more different. addressing "what the rest of the world thinks" doesn't seem to accomplish much either, since i seriously doubt that someone who would blow themself up would list that as a consideration for why they did what they did. pondering that issue certainly isn't going to keep this from happening again. but scratching beneath the surface of this issue takes work and critical thinking, so it's no surprise that so few attempt it.and i'm so bored with the whole "promise for democracy" line, as if that's the only path to success and achievement. it's nauseatingly ethno-centric. there are other counters to a repressive monarchy besides "democracy".
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a little clearer, easier to read example, with the additional processing part in english.
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my sweetheart honey bunny came from casablanca to frankfurt germany and then straight through to portland on lufthansa with no trouble whatsoever. lufthansa has some pretty good prices.
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for us, it took a couple of days for them to call. i was told by DOS that everything was finished on a monday, and they called him that wednesday.
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3 more hours 'til my sweet angel honey bunny arrives!
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nice! some people check their emails and find 11 approval notifications that all say the same thing, others get nothing. so odd, so random.
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A few updates!
Patti & Abderrazzak (ahlam_ladida) have their K3 AOS interview on March 15th. Best of luck to them!
Ummmm, Sunny and Honey Bunny (Kakya_vstrecha! - any chance we can get some real names???
) will be reunited on March 10th!!!! Hope you have a very happy reunion! 
Liz & Hamid (sonicliz) who aren't on the AOS list yet, I think received a green card approval. I hope Liz can drop in and give us an update to confirm. Thanks!
awww, thank you very very much.
he's an Ahmed, i'm a Melia.
that didn't quote properly for some reason, sorry.
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personally i couldn't care less about her personality. abrasiveness, bluntness, even snottiness can all be overlooked as far as i'm concerned, provided someone can make a valid, truthful and sincere point. i don't need candy-coating all the time. it's the fact that she's so completely disingenuous and consistently manipulates and exploits so many misconceptions that are commonly held in the west to further points that aren't universal. her misleading is not accidental, but very calculated and intentional. she had a wretched childhood. for that, i am sincerely sympathetic. but it's completely ridiculous to maintain that her awful experiences have anything to do with islam, or islam and its practitioners are in any way responsible for things that happened to her.
(her being guilty of immigration fraud doesn't exactly endear me to her other points either. i can't stomach liars, especially someone who lies about something as sacred and important as seeking refuge from persecution-in her case completely made up. )
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ugh. those wenches and the tripe they peddle are like the literary equivalent of an especially nasty bout of cholera.
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Wow, the weird health beliefs totally rings true. They're really obsessed with hot, cold, and the wind. I'm a freaking DOCTOR and my husband is always telling me the reason I have a headache is because I went from the cold outside to the warm inside, or the reason I have a cold is that I had bare feet on the floor. Arrghh. I've given up arguing. I've just started smiling and nodding
i always scoffed at that too. in a round-about way though you both could be right. there was an interesting study done in wales a little while back that found
"When colds are circulating in the community, many people are mildly infected but show no symptoms," Prof Eccles said.
"If they become chilled, this causes a pronounced constriction of the blood vessels in the nose and shuts off the warm blood that supplies the white cells that fight infection.
"The reduced defences in the nose allow the virus to get stronger and common cold symptoms develop.
"Although the chilled subject believes they have 'caught a cold' what has, in fact, happened is that the dormant infection has taken hold." cold
doesn't dispel the germ theory of disease or anything of course, but it can be a provoking factor in symptom development.
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happy happy joy joy!
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my angelface will be here 10 march inshallah.
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Ahhh...feels like home again
Not a bad start for a monday morning. How come no one ever talks about all the AOS/Adjustment stuff that we have to go through once the SO arrives? I mean this week alone we drove out to meet the parents, have to go to the civil surgeon, the social security office, the literacy council, and made an info pass at immigration to once and for all try to deal with this EAD nonsense. And all the copies of the papers we have to xerox just to ge tthe packet together for sending in!
ETA: Oh an dfor those with SO's from Morocco, how come no one ever mentioned about getting the Registration card from the Moroccan consulate. Seems you have to have one if you want to renew your passport through NYC. One more little hassle we have to take care of.
do you have to make an appointment with the consulate to get this card?
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absolutely fabulous!
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Pozdravliay, vstrecha! That's great! Judging by your name I'm guessing you're from Russia, that's why I congratulated you in Russian. :dance: :dance: :dance:
Tanya
hehe...spasiba, but i'm so NOT russian, just a fan.
interview not so successful
in Middle East and North Africa
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Still not witty...just clumsy, feeble insults.
Regardless of what happened, it was still confusing trying to navigate through the thread and find out what actually happened. That's all I said. Since the gist of the thread appears to be so preposterously absurd-Casablanca now wants outdated forms-I just wanted to be clear about what I was reading. There are people with interviews coming up at this consulate, and having a little more clarity on this issue and others is, well, important. I made no criticisms of any people involved. Yr invented drama is boring boring boring.