MR-RA

9 minutes ago, agripa said:

Hey MR-RA,

 

Based on everyone's recommendation. I think you should fill out an I-864A for your dad, get your letter regarding why you didn't file taxes, and get another sponsor lined up. I would highly urge you to call the NVC and try to speak to a supervisor to confirm what exactly they want and why they think your dad doesn't make enough to meet the poverty requirement. It'd be good to get this out of the way now, so you don't end up in administrative processing at the Embassy/Consulate after you're interview.

Thank you so much agripa! I'll be calling NVC asap. But if I'll speak to an operator and ask him/her if I can talk with the supervisor will they allow it? I'm in so much despair right now, since im still studying for my boards on the 21st and with this additional checklist they sent. I really appreciate your advice, thank you for enlightening :-)

3 minutes ago, mmkshah said:

If you filed I-864 and you live with your parents than your dad and mom needs to fill out I-864A not I-864. I think what NVC wants is your Dad to fill out I-864A instead of I-864, since you state that your parents income combined is more than 60k. Hope this helps.

Thank you so much! :-) I hope that's the only case, but since they also stated that me and my dad wasn't able to meet the minimum requirement to sponsor for my husband then that means we should find another and have him/her fill up the I864 and bring it to the interview?

9 minutes ago, agripa said:

This sounds a bit tricky. My recommendation would be to fill out an I-864A for your mother and collect her tax transcripts/income evidence, and proof of relationship. In addition, I'd also line-up an additional sponsor (have him/her fill out a new I-864 form, collect tax transcripts/income evidence, and proof of relationship). It's up to you whether you submit this information to the NVC or simply send it with your wife to the interview. However, it sounds like they want a letter from you describing why you are unavailable to provide a tax return. So if you have to send them something now anyways, it seems like you might want to provide your mom's I-864A + an additional sponsor at this time itself. But that's up to you.

We were able to provide nvc with all the AOS they needed from me, my dad and my mom. What confuses me is that how come my dad wasn't able to meet the poverty guideline since his income is even above the poverty level. And why would he fill up the I864A instead of the I864.

Yes, we already have another sponsor jusy in case they're not satisfied with my fathers income. 

Is it fine to call NVC with regards to this? So that I could clarify what they are really asking for.

10 minutes ago, AstroCanada said:

They're asking for the I-864A, which is for household members of a sponsor or cosponsor.   It might be that they want the other parent to fill that form in to agree to co-sponsor you.

Me and my dad filled up the I864 while my mom filled up the I864A since she's a member of the household. I don't know why nvc asks for my dad to fill up the I864A since he's the sponsor. Am I right that I864A is only filled up if you're a household member (like in the case of my mom) right?

10 minutes ago, agripa said:

Can you clearly list what forms you submitted and for whom? I'm a bit confused.

 

As I mentioned earlier, there are a set of conditions under which you do not have to file taxes. You need to consult a tax lawyer (I'm no expert here) and have him specify exactly which tax law exempts you from having to file an income tax return. You would then do as the NVC asks and specify this reason in a letter to them. You would then also tell them in a letter that you had NO job at all over the past year, and as such have no W2. But I would say it's very important if possible to have a tax attorney or tax accountant help you clearly identify which tax laws exempt your from having to file a tax return. 

My dad and I filled up the I864 and the nvc said that my dad needs to fill up a new I864A and have it signed and gave it to my husband for him to bring it on his interview. What I mean with the probable new sponsor is that, if ever we'll be asked to have another sponsor since they believe my father dont make it to the minimum poverty guideline do I still need to inform nvc that were going to have a new sponsor? Or well wait after the interview and for the decision of the consul for us to find a sponsor who meets the poverty guideline.

Following.

1 hour ago, agripa said:

You should definitely find another sponsor. You know best, does your income plus all of your co-sponsors income pass the poverty guidelines? For a household size of 4 (you, your spouse, your dad, and your mom) you should have an income of $30,375. If you don't meet this, you will need to seek out additional sponsors and have them fill out the appropriate form and provide you with tax / income information.

 

There are a limited set of circumstances in which you don't need to file for taxes. You can find a list of these reasons laid out nicely in this article. Please read it and see if you do qualify. If you don't qualify, then you will have to retroactively file taxes (even though you may not have made anything). 

Weird thing is that my fathers income is above 40,000 plus with my moms income, they both make around 60. And I dont know why NVC says my dad doesnt meet the requirement. Also, do my dad still need to fill up the I864A as what is instructed by the NVC? And if ever I'll find another sponsor do I have to inform nvc of this? Since they said my husband needs to bring the documents during his interview and we weren't able to file an I864A for the probable new sponsor.

Also, I do not have an income and Im a dependent from my parents. So where can I get the W2 and all the tax return since I don't file taxes.

thank you for the help! :-) 

Hello guys, so just today I received an email from nvc with regards to our checklist that my husband needs to bring during his interview. I attached an image of what the nvc told me to do. The first image was for my dad and they said that he doesn't meet the minimum poverty guideline so does that mean we need to find another sponsor? Or we just need to fill up the I864A and let my husband bring it to his interview. What we submitted to nvc before was just the I864 for my dad and I864A for my mom. Also, the lower image shows what I need to do. In my case, I wasn't able to file tax since I just arrived here in the US last April 2016 since I studied college in the Philippines. Please help me because I don't know what to do. Im still studying for the NCLEX that I'll be taking soon, as with my husband he is already a registered nurse here in the US.

4 hours ago, KSMA said:

3N/A usually means case complete. U can call and confirm. Wish you best of luck

Thanks! I'll try calling today, I hope I'll have a CC.

After more than 6 weeks of waiting I saw 3 N/A at CEAC website. Does that mean our case is complete already?

On 28 December 2016 at 5:30 PM, eyeofanubis79 said:

I am in the same boat as some of you are. I also found out that each time you send any new piece of mail to NVC, it resets the clock back to the the "4-6 weeks" I sent my Checklist Required documents on 11/29, then i just realized a week later that I forgot that I did not send my Co sponsors W2s and her tax transcripts, I found this out after reading that it is required on the Dept. OF State's website.

So I voluntarily sent those documents in on 12/15, even though they did not even ask me for them. Subsequently, that reset my "clock" back AGAIN to infamous 4-6 weeks again, so I kind of messed myself up by sending in those documents voluntarily. Any one else experiencing this. I should have had my case complete by now if I had not sent that second packet of non requested paperwork *sigh*.

I am hoping they will overlook the second set of paperwork and just focus on the documents that THEY ACTUALLY requested from me on the checklist.

Thoughts, comments?

I experienced the same thing. Nvc had our case last 9/28/16 and its past 6wks now. Our case was reviewed by a supervisor hoping we'll have our case complete soon.

Hello everyone!

So my husband just sent me his Police clearance because it was written on the AOS and IV cover sheet that he needs to submit it, I'm a little bit worried if it should be the NBI that I will have to send instead. Will we be getting an rfe? If so, then that means the process will be delayed, right? :-(

"If your sister got sponsored by your parents, she is counted in their household until she becomes a US citizen.

Since you are a US citizen, you are not normally counted in your parent's household unless you are financially dependent on them (ie they claimed you on their taxes)"

I am still dependent on my parents since I still do not have work. Does that mean we're a household size of 5?

Thank you! This has to be the most commonly misunderstood part of the NVC process. People see "proof of relationship" and think they have to send 4 years of chat messages and a bundle of photos. But as you have pointed out (and I also regularly point out) it forms part of the AOS package and relates to household members of sponsors/joint sponsors.

https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/immigrate/immigrant-process/documents/Step_4_Collect_Financial_Documents.html

Proof of relationship If you completed Form I-864A, submit evidence that proves your relationship to the sponsor (the person who filed Form I-864). You can prove your relationship by submitting a photocopy of one of the documents below:

Birth certificate;

Marriage certificate;

Adoption certificate;

The petitioner or joint sponsors most recent Federal Income Tax Returns, if you are listed as a dependent; or

A signed, written statement describing the relationship.

Note that it says "proof of relationship". Chat logs, photos, tickets, receipts for restaurants, hotels and rings are not "proof" of relationship, they are evidence. Big difference. When USCIS and NVC talk about proof, they mean official documents such as birth certificates and marriage certificates. When they talk about evidence they mean communication, photos, receipts, etc.

Thank you for the answer! Now I can start collecting documents

Good day fellow VJers!

So here's my story, I went back here in the US last April 2016 before I went back here I got married to my husband who is a Filipino living in the Philippines. We were in a relationship since college since we both took up Nursing. Now he already passed the NCLEX and a registered nurse in the United States while I'm still reviewing for the NCLEX since I failed.

My concern is that, my sister who is also in the Philippines had her petition (F2B) approved. since I do not have work yet my parents decided they will be my joint sponsor. I just would like to know who should my parents include as dependent or the total number of household. Should we have a household size of 5 (me, my mom and dad, my husband whom I filed a petition, and my sister who got her case granted) or a household size of 4 (me, my parents and my wife) only and another separate household size of 4 for my sister? And would my parents income be sufficient for the 3 of us (me, my husband and sister) since we're all dependent to them except for my husband who can probably work as a nurse when he get here in the US. My dads income is above the poverty line of 5 household and my mom is willing to co-sponsor.

Thank you in advance to those who can help enlighten me with our case ?

B&Z answered it. However, just to be more elaborate, if you look at the Document cover sheet that is asking for proof of relationship, it is asking for proof of relationship under the "Financial documents." Therefore, it is not asking for the relationship between you and the spouse, but asking for the proof of relationship if you, say, have a joint sponsor who is an immediate relative and has filled the I-864A. In that case you would need to provide the proof of relationship between you and the joint sponsor (only if he is filling I-864A and not I-864).

Good luck!

Thank you so much! Now I clearly understand At first I thought we'll be sending again the same proof as with the uscis stage.

Good day guys!

I just would like to ask what proof of relationship do we need to submit in NVC since we already sent proofs during the USCIS stage. Do we still need to send the photos and the documentation we once sent to USCIS?

Thank you!

My case was also approved last Aug 18. Yet the NVC told me to wait until 6wks for us to get our NVC case number. This must be really upsetting.

Does it really take 6 weeks for the NVC to assign a case number? Been calling them for almost a month now and keep on convincing with regards the time frame. ?

At USCIS stage, no questions or trouble at all. They approved me in 5 months. At NVC stage, when applying for AOS I still had to fill out an I-864 which looked sad since the past 4 years I wasn't living in NJ.

My parents were our co-sponsers. I was still in the Philippines while preparing the AOS and I was so confused!

I regret not looking and asking through VJ!! I had both my parents fill out I-864 and made them both fill out the I-864A just in case

If you already sent your I-130 packet, I recommend you prepare your AOS already ...

Thank you so much for the information! I guess I'll also have to wait around 5 months. Good thing we live in the same state Did you send yours through a courier or you went through their office?

HEY! i just graduated from college in the Philippines as well when i filed for the i130!

When i got to the NVC stage I applied for NCLEX. and reviewing... somewhat.

While you are waiting for the USCIS to approve you I recommend you get your IV and especially your AOS ready.

You fill out an I-184 and your family willing to co-sponsor. Also have them fill out an I-864A.

Same with our case, we graduated last year and took the local board and started reviewing for the nclex. I just hope we could make it, in passing the NCLEX so that everything would run smoothly. Were there no other questions with regards to your petition knowing you don't have work? Thank you!

I would say attach a letter explaining why you're unemployed. I believe you're reviewing for the board exam to be a nurse and when you find a job, you both should be good. I guess you should be fine

I would say attach a letter explaining why you're unemployed. I believe you're reviewing for the board exam to be a nurse and when you find a job, you both should be good. I guess you should be fine

I would say attach a letter explaining why you're unemployed. I believe you're reviewing for the board exam to be a nurse and when you find a job, you both should be good. I guess you should be fine

Thank you so much caykay1! I already attach a letter explaining why we are both unemployed. And yes, we are both reviewing for our state board exam and also planning to take it months from now. I just hope everything would go according to what is planned. So that once pass the NCLEX and work as a nurse, there's no big problem at all.

It doesn't matter if you are jobless when you have a qualified Joint Sponsor. Plenty of people who don't work have gotten visas for their spouses with a qualified Joint Sponsor.

Stop worrying for nothing.

Thank you so much! Now am a lil bit relieved

You will be fine with your parents as cosponsors if it comes to that.

However, I assume you are planning of finding a job soon? There will be some months after filing before you need to supply the affidavits of support - plenty of time to secure a job.

Yes i am planning to work as a nurse in a hospital as soon as i pass the state board exam. I'm just a little bit worried if ever I wouldn't be able to pass yet when the affidavit of support is needed.