franko

Honestly, depending on what the consequences are for the sponsor...

Ther are no consequences for the sponsor because the I-134 is not legally binding. It's seems to be more of a proof of trust between the the sponsor and the sponsored person (they have to disclose their assets to you).

Thanks Franko! This is good news.

Adalb

No worries Dude. London embassy has similar instructions mentioning affidavit of support. I'm having my interview next month and I only have a house and money in the bank to show.

Also got some testemonies from people who had their interviews in April and June and they just had printed bank statements as proof of funds.

You basically need to show to the CO that you will support yourself during your first months/years in the US.

So loads of money is good, less money, good education and work experience is good too. Job offer from US is even better

Ok, thanks to both of you!

I will be on the safe side and bring the 3 certificates.

Anyway, what happens if you go to the interview and the CO finds out that your documentation is not sufficient? Are you definitely rejected or can you ask for another interview date?

You will be put on AP (administrative processing) and your visa issuance will depend on you delivering required docs.

Hello,

I have a question about education certificates. In my DS260 I specified the following education:

- Master of Science

- Bachelor of Science

- High School diploma

Do I have to provide certificates for all of them or is the certificate of the highest level obtained sufficient (Master of Science in this case) since it implies the other two?

Thanks,

adalb

High School Diploma is a must as this is the requirement. In some countries you can get BSc and then MSc following vocational education which would not qualify. I would advise to have all three just in case

Hi EmilyW,

It seems that for Italy Affidavit of support is needed. I found a pdf at this address: http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/diversity-visa/if-you-are-selected/prepare-supporting-documents.html. If you go under the Additional Embassy and Consulate Instructions and you select Naples, you get a PDF stating that Affidavit of support is needed...

On other forums I read that people taking the interview in Italy were not asked this document. I am a bit confused...

Can I provide evidency of bank savings of $10k+ instead? How can I be 100% sure they will not complain at the time of the interview?

Thanks,

adalb

The information provided in the pdf is not specific to DV lottery and it does not say weather they ask for I-134 or I-864. It covers family, employment and fiance visas. As I said before, you need any of these three:

- job offer

- I-134

-money in the bank

I would start with changing the topic to EU00040XXX for security and following this year's progress your interview could be somewhere between July and September next year. Probably September.

Hi everyone, my fiancé will be applying for the next DV this October. (God willing he is selected), then he will be using an affidavit of support since he may not have at least $10k by the time of the interview. I would think the consulate will have to look at it when he presents it to them at the interview as proof even if they don't require it, correct? He will present it during the interview, so I hope they just don't say they don't want it just because they don't require it.

Any of these three will suffice:

- having a job offer from US

- I-134 affidavit filled by US citizen or LPR

- personal savings (usually 10 000$ per family member is enough), the savings must be "kosher" so 1 year of bank statements should be sufficient

Meaning that if you have the I-134 they will look at it and it will be used as a proof that you will not become public charge because your sponsor will help you.

I have filled the ds-260 and ready to summit but I am not clear on one issue. is affidavit of support a must when going to the interview?

It depends on your financial situation. What the CO will be interested in is if you could become a public charge - meaning that they do not want new immigrants to depend on social security. You just have to prove that you will have means to start your life in the US. You can do this by:

- having a job offer from US

- I-134 affidavit filled by US citizen or LPR

- personal savings (usually 10 000$ per family member is enough), the savings must be "kosher" so 1 year of bank statements should be sufficient

That's pretty much all I think.

It has become very strict these years in Albania when it comes to education requirements by the US embassy because there are a lot of people who get fake diplomas, and these types of diplomas as they have mentioned in their website, I believe that those were the easiest ones to be faked. In the previous years, people have made it to the US even with night schools. I really hope Casper qualifies. I know the struggle since my father has been selected this year and when I checked his High School diploma even though it doesn't say vocational it pretty much is one, but thankfully he has a university diploma and as mentioned in the embassy's website, it qualifies. Good luck Casper!

It is surprising how it varies from country to country (thought that American consulates would work the same). In Poland (Russia and few other countries I believe) as long as your high school final exam allows you to attend university it does not matter weather you graduated from general high school or vocational high school because the final exam is the same for all and it is equal to British A-levels. And as Sloner mentioned those embassies will accept vocational high school diploma.

I guess the only option left in Albania is to qualify through work experience.

I am graduated from a vocational high school, all the exams that i have done 2 years before were exactly same as normal high school, 4 exams, 2 of them mandatory and 2 others with choice.

With my diploma i am eligible here in my country to apply for any university i want, even that i have graduated for Electronic i am in the same condition as other students and i can apply for Justice, Economic or any Social University that i want. In other words with my diploma i can apply in all of Universities here in my country. Will this mean anything for embassy ?

I think you should be fine with that - it works in Warsaw embassy but I would advise contacting the embassy in your home country. Since you are DV2015 selectee you have plenty of time so I would suggest giving them a call or writing a letter. Also try your country forum and ask if anyone has been in similar situation.

In other words my chances seems to be insufficient

It depends. For example in Poland you have a vocational school and vocational high school. Vocational school is not equivalent to high school but vocational high school is because you finish this type of school with the same exam as high school and you can go to university. I think that is the main requirement - can you apply to a Uni after your vocational school or would you have to go to college or pass some additional exams.

I know few people who got their green cards in Warsaw and they have diplomas from Polish vocational high school which are equivalent to this:

FRANKYNUMBERVILLE!!!!! Can you believe it's finally happening for you!

Seems surreal

It was/is a pretty crazy ride. Ups, downs, lost hopes, false hopes (Ilona's EU call). It had it all. It's not over yet but if there are visas left on 13th of August I won't let anything screw this up

I'm a kinda pro if it comes to sorting out paperwork. Went thorough my L-1aplication, British citizenship for my wife and myself. Never missed even a tiny bit. My folder for the interview is ready. Just need police check papers and medicals.

All set and ready!!!!!!!

Hope the rest of the forum family will have their chance

Thanks Susie.Very helpful as always.

Cheers.

Hi there,

It is not as complicated as it may seem. What you need to do is wait for your 2nd nl. Once you have an interview date you can apply for a police check. It takes usually about 10 days, if you pay more you can get it in around 3 days. Once you have your interview date and have sent the forms to get the police check you can schedule your medicals. That's what I did.

I got my interview on August 13th. I received my second notification letter 2 days ago. First I sent the forms to get the police check for my wife and myself. Today I called Knightsbridge Doctors to get medicals done and easily scheduled medicals for 23rd of July. For your medicals you will have to have your police check with you and standard visa photograph. They will send your results and police papers to the embassy. When you call the panel doctor you just need to give them your case number. They were happy with my 2014EUXXXXXXX case number.

Easy peasy

Since UK is not eligible for DV most of the immigrant visas are spouse, family or work related and that's why it is not clear how to proceed with DV interview preps.

Good luck.

yes on both.

Just two allowed practices in the city, they sent me in one. Again they didn't care about the number.. (they could and advised me better...) just very strict on having police certificate, passport and copy of the letter.

I mean ...it is not a big trouble, in the worse (GOOD) case ..I will have to spend again 300 pound...I would do it without thinking a second.

I just thought the information was useful, being on the same situation again, I could at least wait the numbers raising, but again at time I didn't understand anything about the process.

Well, they screwed you over mate. Your police certificate will be out of date too so that's another 45 quid that you will have to add to your medicals. Here is the info regarding medicals in London:

I am a DV2014.

I know that medic check has to be valid landind on US, but as said more than happy to pay again in the far case they reach my number.

it was just to say that, at least for my direct experience, doctors don't care about your number, at the end is money..and a lot.

Most countries require interview date prior to medicals. And the practice chosen by the embassy works quite close with them so they know all the rules. In your case the doctors have taken advantage of you as I bet they knew that medicals are valid only for 6 months.

Thanks pal !

From now on, I will just sit and wait hopefuly time will prove me wrong and numbers will go higher and more selectees will benefit

Franky malcom kayend...any comment mates ?

Vlad'Man my friend. Very reasonable numbers. And I say this because I think KFC are unreasonable people and they will pursuit the maximum number of visas issued and that will happen at cost of APs, "late comers" and I bet some regions will benefit and others will loose. I just want to be over this fcuking thing. Putting life on hold for over a year sucks a.s.s !

The advantages of statistical analysis are the laws of statistics still work even if KCC does not specifically follow them or even knows anything about them.

I believe the "German Tank Problem" method is valid for estimating the maximum CN numbers but the max cut-off calculations (and that applies to everybody's calcs) depend on KCC. In my opinion they are quite unpredictable and simple regional quota change will turn everything around.

OK Raevsky - I see the rationale. You are looking from a statistical exercise point of view - which is valid of course, even though the resulting numbers may look odd. Oddly, KCC don't seem to be following the program... perhaps they don't understand statistical analysis.

It's quite common for machines to use valid methods of analyzing available data and performing accurate, fast calculations however completely ignoring the human factor of the system (Skynet, The Architect in Matrix, Rae? ) . Based on that I will wait few more weeks and see the bulletin because as somebody said earlier - whatever you/we calculate it will be wrong anyway.

FFS, what makes you think everyone on these boards knows everyone who has been interviewed?

Tell me something. You seem to understand English perfectly well. Why do you not seem to understand what "current" means when the visa bulletin explains it in plain English?

But hey, if you want to spend the next 18 months stressing about nothing, good luck to you.

As Vladek said, Franko reported that; although he wasn't entirely convinced, having previously been told there would be a big jump in June (I think) when there wasn't.

Absolutely true that!!!

The lady sounded serious enough to get my attention. Was answering questions in a calm manner, no emotion really - just stated the fact.

On the other hand, the trainee (very young person, struggling to formulate one single sentence without stuttering) that I asked about meaning of current said that "based on previous months" he would assume 4k jump.

In all fairness this could mean absolutely nothing and everything. Who knows. Maybe EU will stop completely (couple hundred CNs in August and September).

I am preparing for all possibilities. Won't celebrate till I see in the bulletin that I arrived in FRANKYNUMBERVILLE!!!

In my last question I compared current to the previosly published cut off. For example lets take Visa Bulletin for 2013 year. For Europe current is present there in august and september and before that there is a cut off of 33000 in July. My question is if there is somebody with a CN bigger than 33000 for that year who was invited for an interview in august or september when the cut off was current.

I think there was no higher numbers than 33k in EU. At least I have not seen any. Maybe somebody else has a better idea about max EU number in 2013??

Hi everyone,

I don't think this has been asked in this sub-forum. I intend to bring statements to the interview to show that I can support myself.

1- Are online statements good enough, or should I get paper statements?

2- Is the last statement (right before the interview) good enough, or should I bring maybe quarterly statements for the prior 12 months?

thanks!

You can printout your statements and they should be OK with that. I think last 6 months will be fine. Also if you are employed a letter from your employer or a ax return stating your income would help to confirm that the savings are indeed yours.

Obviously London-specific... good to know for those doing it there. And one of the advantages of having people from different places chipping in!

Don't mind chipping in. Have known all the requirements since May last year and have everything as far as possible ready. In standby mode now - just hoping to get current

Here's what you need for your medicals in LND:

Forms and documents that must be presented to the examining physician on the day of the appointment:

A photograph for each person attending the medical, including babies. The specifications of the photograph are the same as those obtained for the visa;

Vaccination records for each person attending the medical, including babies. Vaccination records are dependent on age. See chart on pages 7 & 8;

Passport, driving license or photo license;

Police certificate issued by ACPO (applicants aged 16 and over only);

Medical questionnaire which is printed on page 9 of this packet much be completed for each person attending a medical, including babies; and

Applicants who have ever been treated for Tuberculosis (TB) are required to bring all medical and specialist reports relating to the diagnosis and treatment.

Great thanks for that. I had a feeling I may not be able to do it yet. And yes I was aware that the medicals have to be done by an approved doctor, hopefully one of the UK approved ones is in London. Although I assume they would be. And it's good to know that we can send any missing documents later, thanks again for your help.

Panel doctor is in London. You will be able to book your appointment once your number gets current and you have your interview scheduled (you need to give them your CN number and appointment date I believe). You have to have your police certificate ready for the medicals and one photo per person (standard visa size photo). They will send the results, certificate and the photo to the embassy.

http://www.visamedicals.info/us.asp

Some evidence:

http://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/DV-2014-Instructions-Translations/FY12AnnualReport-TableVII.pdf

This is 10 years worth of stats, 2003-2012

Egypt exceeded 3500 in 2005, 2006 and 2007

In fully 7 of those years, Ethiopia exceeded 3500

Bangladesh exceeded 3500 in 2007

Uzbekistan exceeded 3500 in 2011

In 2003, 2010 and 2011, total DV visa issuance exceeded 50k

And obviously we know Iran last year exceeded 3500 too...not sure if there were any other "exceptions" last year?

There are enough "exceptions" to conclude that 50k is not a hard limit either in terms of overall visas or as a basis for the 7% rule.

I agree. There is a degree of freedom when it comes to visa issuance in last months of each lottery year. They just do not seem to follow any logical path there.

I just wonder how far will they take it this year ??

From what I remember nacara has only used between 100-200 visas the past few years. It is not really an issue from a DV perspective anymore. And DV2015 selectees have reported that their selection letters mentioned 55k visas being available.

I have seen a screenshot of the letter and I did not see 55k mentioned ?

Have a look at post número tres. This letter looks exactly like my 2014 notification letter except for DS260 part.

http://greencard.by/community/forum/forum27/topic6373/?PAGEN_1=1