Bobalouie

Got the approval notification today. Looks like VSC takes about 6 weeks after you send in a RFE.

California Service Center (43 applicants, 36 approved 84%)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved....Local DO

Merrill.............10/29/10..........11/01/10.......01/10/11........03/09/11.... (RFE rcvd 3/1, GC rcvd 3/12)

pam&josh............10/29/10..........11/02/10.......12/08/10........02/01/11....

TL&IS...............10/30/10..........11/01/10.......01/11/11........02/28/11.... (card received 3/4)

Kasiraman...........11/01/10..........11/09/10.......12/07/10........01/31/11.... (Early Bio 11/29)

BAN.................11/02/10..........11/03/10.......01/06/11........03/01/11....

LYNNANDAHMED........11/02/10..........11/04/10.......12/02/10........02/11/11....

BFORBARREE..........11/02/10..........11/??/10.......11/26/10........01/25/11.... RFE rcvd 12/09, responded 1/19 GC rcvd 1/28

Nineta..............11/03/10..........11/11/10.......12/22/10........02/08/11.... (Early Bio 12/15)

Yasi................11/04/10..........12/03/10.......12/29/10........03/18/11.... (RFE received 3/05, responded 3/08)(card received 3/24)

Debbylyn............11/05/10..........11/08/10.......12/20/10........02/09/11.... (card redeived 2/14)

saradanielle........11/05/10..........11/12/10.......12/14/10........02/12/11.... (card received 2/14)

visabird............11/06/10..........11/??/10.......12/17/10........--/--/11.... (RFE received 2/10, responded 3/28)

linda123............11/07/10..........11/14/10.......12/30/10........02/17/11.... (card received 2/25)

Justagirl24.........11/08/10..........11/09/10.......01/20/11........02/28/11.... (card received 03/05)

Geostefan...........11/08/10..........11/--/10.......01/31/11........--/--/11.... (RFE received 3/11)

my-angel............11/08/10..........11/12/10.......01/14/11........02/28/11.... (card received 3/05)

me262...............11/08/10..........11/10/10.......12/15/10........02/08/11.... 02/14/11...Rcvd GC

SMB x2..............11/08/10..........11/10/10.......12/22/10........03/03/11.... (Late Bio 1/12/11)

Jeff&Sylvia.........11/09/10..........11/12/10.......12/09/10........03/23/11.... (Late Bio 12/10) (Re-take Bio 12/30) (Re-take Bio 2/11)

jimcat..............11/10/10..........11/12/10.......12/20/10........02/11/11.... (card received 2/22)

Xochitl18...........11/12/10..........11/15/10.......01/28/11........03/04/11.... (card received 3/10)

hum tum.............11/12/10..........11/15/10.......12/23/10........02/23/11.... (card received 2/28)

Merlot..............11/13/10..........11/15/10.......01/12/11........03/01/11....

PattyS_Husband......11/13/10..........11/15/10.......--/--/10........--/--/11....

BRI1973.............11/??/10..........11/15/10.......12/23/10........01/26/11....

DisneyLovers........11/15/10..........11/17/10.......12/28/10........02/16/11.... (card received 2/23)

briana10............11/15/10..........11/16/10.......12/29/10........--/--/11....

mbdesousa...........11/15/10..........11/??/10.......01/03/11........02/28/11.... (card received 3/05)

Vsfansfans..........11/16/10..........11/17/10.......12/23/10........--/--/11....

Jupiter07...........11/16/10..........11/18/10.......12/21/10........03/29/11.... (card received 4/04)

caligurl............11/16/10..........11/??/10.......12/23/10........--/--/11....

KJC.................11/17/10..........11/18/10.......12/29/10........03/04/11....

SonoranSongbird.....11/18/10..........11/19/10.......12/21/10........02/16/11....

bmtrrbt.............11/??/10..........11/19/10.......12/29/10........02/17/11....

FaustlnAK...........11/18/10..........11/22/10.......02/03/11........02/16/11.... (card received 2/24)

CHRISMATT84.........11/19/10..........11/22/10.......12/21/10........02/22/11.... (card received 3/02)

Abranch.............11/19/10..........--/--/10.......12/22/10........02/10/11.... (Never received NOA1)

timcass_12..........11/19/10..........11/22/10.......12/22/10........02/09/11.... (card received 2/10)

wizardfitz..........11/22/10..........11/30/10.......12/21/10........02/15/11.... (card received 2/19)

patriciaofoz........11/24/10..........11/??/10.......01/07/11........02/23/11.... (card received 2/28)

flipilychee820......11/24/10..........11/26/10.......01/14/11........03/01/11.... (card received 3/05)

Kang Lang...........11/26/10..........11/29/10.......02/01/11........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 01/07)

Stardust72..........11/27/10..........1-/--/10.......01/07/11........04/14/11.... (RFE received 3/05, responded 4/02)(card received 4/20)

Vermont Service Center (45 applicants, 31 Approved 68%)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved....Local DO

Rheiys..............10/29/10..........11/01/10.......12/16/10........03/18/11.... (card received 3/21)

R and F.............10/30/10..........11/02/10.......12/10/10........03/23/11....

AlHayatZween........10/30/10..........11/03/10.......12/30/10........03/29/11.... (card received 4/2)

David & Amy.........11/01/10..........11/08/10.......01/20/11........03/09/11.... (card received 3/14)

Robyn-n-Kris........11/03/10..........11/08/10.......12/20/10........??/??/11.... (card received 4/06)

Sam and Metodi......11/03/10..........11/05/10.......12/08/10........03/18/11.... (card received 3/25?)

w1331...............11/04/10..........11/08/10.......12/17/11........03/07/11....

windycity...........11/04/10..........11/08/10.......01/25/11........03/29/11.... (Early Bio 01/12), Alexandria, VA

Daniele & Jen.......11/04/10..........11/05/10.......12/21/10........02/28/11.... Elizabeth, NJ

Jeriii..............11/04/10..........11/08/10.......12/14/10........03/29/11.... (Early Bio 12/01),(card received 3/31)

B_Weeks.............11/05/10..........11/08/10.......12/22/10........03/03/11.... (card received 3/08)

kingtmac............11/06/10..........11/09/10.......01/18/11........--/--/11....

gemindsims..........11/06/10..........11/08/10.......01/18/10........--/--/11....

grahamandmegan......11/06/10..........11/09/10.......12/22/10........03/03/11.... (Early Bio 12/07)

Lucille.............11/06/10..........11/??/10.......01/25/11........03/30/11.... (card received 4/02)

emerce..............11/10/10..........11/12/10.......12/28/10........--/--/11....

Bobalouie...........11/10/10..........11/12/10.......12/22/10........05/10/11.... RFE Recieved 3-19 Retunred 3-28

rugbydude05.........11/10/10..........11/15/10.......12/28/10........03/29/11.... Elizabeth, NJ

DI&JR...............11/12/10..........11/15/10.......12/27/10........04/28/11.... (card received 05/04)

BLEECKER............11/12/10..........11/15/10.......12/28/10........--/--/11....

charm/Cal...........11/12/10..........11/15/10.......01/25/11........04/14/11....

DON2008.............11/12/10..........11/16/10.......12/30/10........04/01/11.... (card received 4/06) Houston TX

TigerTeddyBear......11/13/10..........11/16/10.......12/17/10........--/--/11....

yingying27410.......11/16/10..........11/17/10.......01/25/11........03/31/11....

darbyoshea..........11/12/10..........11/19/10.......12/21/10........--/--/11.... Cambridge, MA (Early Bio 12/10), RFE received 4/4, ugh.

Gypsyangel..........11/16/10..........11/19/10.......12/29/10........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 12/21), Mount Laurel, NJ

Gelato..............11/16/10..........11/19/10.......12/28/10........04/26/11.... (card received 4/29)

LSMA................11/17/10..........11/22/10.......01/25/11........04/17/11....

new2009.............11/17/10..........11/22/10.......01/25/11........04/25/11.... (Early Bio 01/19, Alexandria VA)

GlynandKathy........11/17/10..........11/26/10.......12/21/10........04/04/11.... Bedford, NH (card received 4/09)

"rylee".............11/18/10..........11/22/10.......01/04/11........04/20/11....

tanyaru.............11/18/10..........11/22/10.......01/27/11........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 01/07), Fairfax,VA

Zee Bee.............11/19/10..........11/22/10.......12/23/10........04/20/11.... Dover, DE (Early Bio 12/16; card received 4/26)

babybigpig..........11/19/10..........--/--/--.......02/25/11........04/15/11.... (Never received NOA and got I-551 stamped)

Bigley..............11/19/10..........11/22/10.......12/28/10........04/18/11....

brnie80.............11/19/10..........11/22/10.......01/07/11........--/--/11.... (Interview letter received 4/09 for 5/05)

didiladi9...........11/19/10..........11/22/10.......01/03/11........--/--/11....

E-MIGRA ............11/20/10..........11/22/10.......01/27/11........04/07/11.... (Early Bio01/21, Alex.VA, card rec. 4/11)

drl.................11/20/10..........11/22/10.......12/29/10........04/04/11.... (card received 4/07)

EastMeetWest........11/20/10..........11/22/10.......01/03/11........--/--/11....

Nani................11/21/10..........11/22/10.......01/05/11........04/19/11.... (card received 4/22)

ARRTA...............11/27/10..........11/30/10.......01/07/11........--/--/11.... Lawrence, MA (RFE received 4/16)

JB_VJ...............11/29/10..........12/01/10.......01/31/11........--/--/11....

keivn...............11/30/10..........--/--/--.......12/17/10........--/--/11.... (never received NOA)

Sandrila............11/??/10..........??/??/10.......12/09/10........02/16/11.... (filed in the 3rd week of Nov)

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(adding card received date)

For what it's worth, we didn't have any touches or status changes from the NOA date to the date we received the approval email.

Fingers crossed for the remaining filers!

Adding my returned RFE date...I sent them over 200 pages of documents! Like others, I had to wait for some stuff in the mail. They got it on 3-28, so hopefully it wont be too long until I get picked up again.

California Service Center (42 applicants, 35 approved 83%)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved....Local DO

Merrill.............10/29/10..........11/01/10.......01/10/11........03/09/11.... (RFE rcvd 3/1, GC rcvd 3/12)

pam&josh............10/29/10..........11/02/10.......12/08/10........02/01/11....

TL&IS...............10/30/10..........11/01/10.......01/11/11........02/28/11.... (card received 3/4)

Kasiraman...........11/01/10..........11/09/10.......12/07/10........01/31/11.... (Early Bio 11/29)

BAN.................11/02/10..........11/03/10.......01/06/11........03/01/11....

LYNNANDAHMED........11/02/10..........11/04/10.......12/02/10........02/11/11....

BFORBARREE..........11/02/10..........11/??/10.......11/26/10........01/25/11.... RFE rcvd 12/09, responded 1/19 GC rcvd 1/28

Nineta..............11/03/10..........11/11/10.......12/22/10........02/08/11.... (Early Bio 12/15)

Yasi................11/04/10..........12/03/10.......12/29/10........03/18/11.... (RFE received 3/05, responded 3/08)(card received 3/24)

Debbylyn............11/05/10..........11/08/10.......12/20/10........02/09/11.... (card redeived 2/14)

saradanielle........11/05/10..........11/12/10.......12/14/10........02/12/11.... (card received 2/14)

linda123............11/07/10..........11/14/10.......12/30/10........02/17/11.... (card received 2/25)

Justagirl24.........11/08/10..........11/09/10.......01/20/11........02/28/11.... (card received 03/05)

Geostefan...........11/08/10..........11/--/10.......01/31/11........--/--/11.... (RFE received 3/11)

my-angel............11/08/10..........11/12/10.......01/14/11........02/28/11.... (card received 3/05)

me262...............11/08/10..........11/10/10.......12/15/10........02/08/11.... 02/14/11...Rcvd GC

SMB x2..............11/08/10..........11/10/10.......12/22/10........03/03/11.... (Late Bio 1/12/11)

Jeff&Sylvia.........11/09/10..........11/12/10.......12/09/10........03/23/11.... (Late Bio 12/10) (Re-take Bio 12/30) (Re-take Bio 2/11)

jimcat..............11/10/10..........11/12/10.......12/20/10........02/11/11.... (card received 2/22)

Xochitl18...........11/12/10..........11/15/10.......01/28/11........03/04/11.... (card received 3/10)

hum tum.............11/12/10..........11/15/10.......12/23/10........02/23/11.... (card received 2/28)

Merlot..............11/13/10..........11/15/10.......01/12/11........03/01/11....

PattyS_Husband......11/13/10..........11/15/10.......--/--/10........--/--/11....

BRI1973.............11/??/10..........11/15/10.......12/23/10........01/26/11....

DisneyLovers........11/15/10..........11/17/10.......12/28/10........02/16/11.... (card received 2/23)

briana10............11/15/10..........11/16/10.......12/29/10........--/--/11....

mbdesousa...........11/15/10..........11/??/10.......01/03/11........02/28/11.... (card received 3/05)

Vsfansfans..........11/16/10..........11/17/10.......12/23/10........--/--/11....

Jupiter07...........11/16/10..........11/18/10.......12/21/10........03/29/11.... (card received 4/04)

caligurl............11/16/10..........11/??/10.......12/23/10........--/--/11....

KJC.................11/17/10..........11/18/10.......12/29/10........03/04/11....

SonoranSongbird.....11/18/10..........11/19/10.......12/21/10........02/16/11....

bmtrrbt.............11/??/10..........11/19/10.......12/29/10........02/17/11....

FaustlnAK...........11/18/10..........11/22/10.......02/03/11........02/16/11.... (card received 2/24)

CHRISMATT84.........11/19/10..........11/22/10.......12/21/10........02/22/11.... (card received 3/02)

Abranch.............11/19/10..........--/--/10.......12/22/10........02/10/11.... (Never received NOA1)

timcass_12..........11/19/10..........11/22/10.......12/22/10........02/09/11.... (card received 2/10)

wizardfitz..........11/22/10..........11/30/10.......12/21/10........02/15/11.... (card received 2/19)

patriciaofoz........11/24/10..........11/??/10.......01/07/11........02/23/11.... (card received 2/28)

flipilychee820......11/24/10..........11/26/10.......01/14/11........03/01/11.... (card received 3/05)

Kang Lang...........11/26/10..........11/29/10.......02/01/11........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 01/07)

Stardust72..........11/27/10..........1-/--/10.......01/07/11........--/--/11.... (RFE received 3/05, responded 4/02)

Vermont Service Center (44 applicants, 18 Approved 41%)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved....Local DO

Rheiys..............10/29/10..........11/01/10.......12/16/10........03/18/11.... (card received 3/21)

R and F.............10/30/10..........11/02/10.......12/10/10........03/23/11....

AlHayatZween........10/30/10..........11/03/10.......12/30/10........03/29/11.... (card received 4/2)

David & Amy.........11/01/10..........11/08/10.......01/20/11........03/09/11.... (card received 3/14)

Robyn-n-Kris........11/03/10..........11/08/10.......12/20/10........??/??/11.... (card received 4/06)

Sam and Metodi......11/03/10..........11/05/10.......12/08/10........03/18/11.... (card received 3/25?)

w1331...............11/04/10..........11/08/10.......12/17/11........03/07/11....

windycity...........11/04/10..........11/08/10.......01/25/11........03/29/11.... (Early Bio 01/12), Alexandria, VA

Daniele & Jen.......11/04/10..........11/05/10.......12/21/10........02/28/11.... Elizabeth, NJ

Jeriii..............11/04/10..........11/08/10.......12/14/10........03/29/11.... (Early Bio 12/01),(card received 3/31)

B_Weeks.............11/05/10..........11/08/10.......12/22/10........03/03/11.... (card received 3/08)

kingtmac............11/06/10..........11/09/10.......01/18/11........--/--/11....

gemindsims..........11/06/10..........11/08/10.......01/18/10........--/--/11....

grahamandmegan......11/06/10..........11/09/10.......12/22/10........03/03/11.... (Early Bio 12/07)

Lucille.............11/06/10..........11/??/10.......01/25/11........03/30/11.... (card received 4/02)

emerce..............11/10/10..........11/12/10.......12/28/10........--/--/11....

Bobalouie...........11/10/10..........11/12/10.......12/22/10........--/--/11.... RFE Recieved 3-19 Retunred 3-28

rugbydude05.........11/10/10..........11/15/10.......12/28/10........03/29/11.... Elizabeth, NJ

JR&DI...............11/12/10..........11/15/10.......12/27/10........--/--/11....

BLEECKER............11/12/10..........11/15/10.......12/28/10........--/--/11....

charm/Cal...........11/12/10..........11/15/10.......01/25/11........--/--/11....

DON2008.............11/12/10..........11/16/10.......12/30/10........04/01/11.... Houston TX

TigerTeddyBear......11/13/10..........11/16/10.......12/17/10........--/--/11....

yingying27410.......11/16/10..........11/17/10.......01/25/11........03/31/11....

darbyoshea..........11/12/10..........11/19/10.......12/21/10........--/--/11.... Cambridge, MA (Early Bio 12/10), RFE received 4/4, ugh.

Gypsyangel..........11/16/10..........11/19/10.......12/29/10........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 12/21), Mount Laurel, NJ

Gelato..............11/16/10..........11/19/10.......12/28/10........--/--/11....

LSMA................11/17/10..........11/22/10.......01/25/11........--/--/11....

new2009.............11/17/10..........11/22/10.......01/25/11........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 01/19, Alexandria VA)

GlynandKathy........11/17/10..........11/26/10.......12/21/10........04/04/11.... Bedford, NH

"rylee".............11/18/10..........11/22/10.......01/04/11........--/--/11....

tanyaru.............11/18/10..........11/22/10.......01/27/11........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 01/07), Fairfax,VA

Zee Bee.............11/19/10..........11/22/10.......12/23/10........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 12/16)

babybigpig..........11/19/10..........--/--/--.......02/25/11........--/--/11.... (Never received NOA and got I-551 stamped)

Bigley..............11/19/10..........11/22/10.......12/28/10........--/--/11....

brnie80.............11/19/10..........11/22/10.......01/07/11........--/--/11....

didiladi9...........11/19/10..........11/22/10.......01/03/11........--/--/11....

E-MIGRA ............11/20/10..........11/22/10.......01/27/11........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 01/21, Alexandria, VA)

drl.................11/20/10..........11/22/10.......12/29/10........--/--/11....

EastMeetWest........11/20/10..........11/22/10.......01/03/11........--/--/11....

Nani................11/21/10..........11/22/10.......01/05/11........--/--/11....

ARRTA...............11/27/10..........11/30/10.......01/07/11........--/--/11.... Lawrence, MA

JB_VJ...............11/29/10..........12/01/10.......01/31/11........--/--/11....

Sandrila............11/??/10..........??/??/10.......12/09/10........02/16/11.... (filed in the 3rd week of Nov)

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Bobalouie and Gypsyangel, sorry you got RFE'd. How did you find out about it? Your online status changed or you got it in the mail? Thanks & good luck.

We found out about it thru an infopass appt last friday and got the letter on saturday. We were trying to get the I-551 stamp in the passport because we were worried with how long it is takeing and my wife and I will be traveling back to Russia here in a couple of months. I didnt get an email notification at all, so I checked my online status and it hasnt changed.

For those asking about evidence, yes, they want more, and it is my fault. When we got married, I checked around about adding my wife as co owner of our house, and everyone told me I would have to refinance to do that (this includes title company people), and I was not going to pay closing costs again just to get her name on the document to satisfy USCIS. Turns out, you dont have to refi to do it. I found out today that you can file a Quit Claim deed with Joint Tenancy and she can be added. So, I spent a couple hours in the courthouse today getting all that done. Hopefully they dont freak about the date (being today) that she was added. I am also going to include all the titles for our autos and such, which I didnt do before hand since I included documentation about her being the sole beneficiary for all my life insurance, 401K, etc, as well as tax statements showing that she and I have a joint checking account. Lesson learned...

I am also thinking of includeing the bank statements, which I didnt include in the original submittal. I really dont understand how bank statements showing withdrawls for the entire period of our marriage shows that we are in a good faith marriage and continue to share a life together. You cant see who made the withdrawl on a statement, and the USCIS really doesnt need to know what/where we spend our money. But if they want an additional 200 or so pages of bank statements, then so be it.

Got RFE'd....Dang it!

California Service Center (42 applicants, 32 approved 76%)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved....Local DO

Merrill.............10/29/10..........11/01/10.......01/10/10........03/09/11.... (RFE rcvd 3/1, GC rcvd 3/12)

pam&josh............10/29/10..........11/02/10.......12/08/10........02/01/11....

TL&IS...............10/30/10..........11/01/10.......01/11/11........02/28/11.... (card received 3/4)

Kasiraman...........11/01/10..........11/09/10.......12/07/10........01/31/11.... (Early Bio 11/29)

BAN.................11/02/10..........11/03/10.......01/06/11........03/01/11....

LYNNANDAHMED........11/02/10..........11/04/10.......12/02/10........02/11/11....

BFORBARREE..........11/02/10..........11/??/10.......11/26/10........01/25/11.... RFE rcvd 12/09, responded 1/19 GC rcvd 1/28

Nineta..............11/03/10..........11/11/10.......12/22/10........02/08/11.... (Early Bio 12/15)

Yasi................11/04/10..........12/03/10.......12/29/10........--/--/11.... (RFE received 3/05)

Debbylyn............11/05/10..........11/08/10.......12/20/10........02/09/11.... (card redeived 2/14)

saradanielle........11/05/10..........11/12/10.......12/14/10........02/12/11.... (card received 2/14)

linda123............11/07/10..........11/14/10.......12/30/10........02/17/11.... (card received 2/25)

Justagirl24.........11/08/10..........11/09/10.......01/20/11........02/28/11.... (card received 03/05)

Geostefan...........11/08/10..........11/--/10.......01/31/11........--/--/11.... (RFE received 3/11)

my-angel............11/08/10..........11/12/10.......01/14/11........02/28/11.... (card received 3/05)

me262...............11/08/10..........11/10/10.......12/15/10........02/08/11.... 02/14/11...Rcvd GC

SMB x2..............11/08/10..........11/10/10.......12/22/10........03/03/11.... (Late Bio 1/12/11)

Jeff&Sylvia.........11/09/10..........11/12/10.......12/09/10........--/--/11.... (Late Bio 12/10) (Re-take Bio 12/30)

jimcat..............11/10/10..........11/12/10.......12/20/10........02/11/11.... (card received 2/22)

Xochitl18...........11/12/10..........11/15/10.......01/28/11........03/04/11.... (card received 3/10)

hum tum.............11/12/10..........11/15/10.......12/23/10........02/23/11.... (card received 2/28)

Merlot..............11/13/10..........11/15/10.......01/12/11........03/01/11....

PattyS_Husband......11/13/10..........11/15/10.......--/--/10........--/--/11....

BRI1973.............11/??/10..........11/15/10.......12/23/10........01/26/11....

DisneyLovers........11/15/10..........11/17/10.......12/28/10........02/16/11.... (card received 2/23)

briana10............11/15/10..........11/16/10.......12/29/10........--/--/11....

mbdesousa...........11/15/10..........11/??/10.......01/03/11........02/28/11.... (card received 3/05)

Vsfansfans..........11/16/10..........11/17/10.......12/23/10........--/--/11....

Jupiter07...........11/16/10..........11/18/10.......12/21/10........--/--/11.... Columbus, OH

caligurl............11/16/10..........11/??/10.......12/23/10........--/--/11....

KJC.................11/17/10..........11/18/10.......12/29/10........03/04/11....

SonoranSongbird.....11/18/10..........11/19/10.......12/21/10........02/16/11....

bmtrrbt.............11/??/10..........11/19/10.......12/29/10........02/17/11....

FaustlnAK...........11/18/10..........11/22/10.......02/03/11........02/16/11.... (card received 2/24)

CHRISMATT84.........11/19/10..........11/22/10.......12/21/10........02/22/11.... (card received 3/02)

Abranch.............11/19/10..........--/--/10.......12/22/10........02/10/11.... (Never received NOA1)

timcass_12..........11/19/10..........11/22/10.......12/22/10........02/09/11.... (card received 2/10)

wizardfitz..........11/22/10..........11/30/10.......12/21/10........02/15/11.... (card received 2/19)

patriciaofoz........11/24/10..........11/??/10.......01/07/11........02/23/11.... (card received 2/28)

flipilychee820......11/24/10..........11/26/10.......01/14/11........03/01/11.... (card received 3/05)

Kang Lang...........11/26/10..........11/29/10.......02/01/11........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 01/07)

Stardust72..........11/27/10..........1-/--/10.......01/07/11........--/--/11.... (RFE received 3/05)

Vermont Service Center (40 applicants, 7 Approved 18%)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved....Local DO

Rheiys..............10/29/10..........11/01/10.......12/16/10........03/18/11....

R and F.............10/30/10..........11/02/10.......12/10/10........--/--/11....

AlHayatZween........10/30/10..........11/03/10.......12/30/10........--/--/11....

David & Amy.........11/01/10..........11/08/10.......01/20/11........03/09/11.... (card received 3/14)

Robyn-n-Kris........11/03/10..........11/08/10.......12/20/10........--/--/11....

Sam and Metodi......11/03/10..........11/05/10.......12/08/10........--/--/11....

w1331...............11/04/10..........11/08/10.......12/17/11........03/07/11....

windycity...........11/04/10..........11/08/10.......01/25/11........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 01/12), Alexandria, VA

Daniele & Jen.......11/04/10..........11/05/10.......12/21/10........02/28/11.... Elizabeth, NJ

Jeriii..............11/04/10..........11/08/10.......12/14/10........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 12/01)

B_Weeks.............11/05/10..........11/08/10.......12/22/10........03/03/11.... (card received 3/08)

kingtmac............11/06/10..........11/09/10.......01/18/11........--/--/11....

gemindsims..........11/06/10..........11/08/10.......01/18/10........--/--/11....

grahamandmegan......11/06/10..........11/09/10.......12/22/10........03/03/11.... (Early Bio 12/07)

emerce..............11/10/10..........11/12/10.......12/28/10........--/--/11....

Bobalouie...........11/10/10..........11/12/10.......12/22/10........--/--/11.... RFE Recieved 3-19-11, Dated 3-15-11

rugbydude05.........11/10/10..........11/15/10.......12/28/10........--/--/11....

JR&DI...............11/12/10..........11/15/10.......12/27/10........--/--/11....

BLEECKER............11/12/10..........11/15/10.......12/28/10........--/--/11....

DON2008.............11/12/10..........11/16/10.......12/30/10........--/--/11....

TigerTeddyBear......11/13/10..........11/16/10.......12/17/10........--/--/11....

Gypsyangel..........11/16/10..........11/19/10.......12/29/10........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 12/21), Mount Laurel, NJ

Gelato..............11/16/10..........11/19/10.......12/28/10........--/--/11....

LSMA................11/17/10..........11/22/10.......01/25/10........--/--/11....

new2009.............11/17/10..........11/22/10.......01/25/11........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 01/19, Alexandria VA)

GlynandKathy........11/17/10..........11/26/10.......12/21/10........--/--/11.... Bedford, NH

"rylee".............11/18/10..........11/22/10.......01/04/11........--/--/11....

tanyaru.............11/18/10..........11/22/10.......01/27/11........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 01/07), Fairfax,VA

Zee Bee.............11/19/10..........11/22/10.......12/23/10........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 12/16)

babybigpig..........11/19/10..........--/--/--.......02/25/11........--/--/11.... (Never received NOA and got I-551 stamped)

Bigley..............11/19/10..........11/22/10.......12/28/10........--/--/11....

brnie80.............11/19/10..........11/22/10.......01/07/11........--/--/11....

didiladi9...........11/19/10..........11/22/10.......01/03/11........--/--/11....

E-MIGRA ............11/20/10..........11/22/10.......01/27/11........--/--/11.... (Early Bio 01/21, Alexandria, VA)

drl.................11/20/10..........11/22/10.......12/29/10........--/--/11....

EastMeetWest........11/20/10..........11/22/10.......01/03/11........--/--/11....

Nani................11/21/10..........11/22/10.......01/05/11........--/--/11....

ARRTA...............11/27/10..........11/30/10.......01/07/10........--/--/11.... Lawrence, MA

JB_VJ...............11/29/10..........12/01/10.......01/31/10........--/--/11....

Sandrila............11/??/10..........??/??/10.......12/09/10........02/16/11.... (filed in the 3rd week of Nov)

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California Service Center (30 applicants)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved....

Merrill.............10/29/10..........11/01/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

pam&josh............10/29/10..........11/02/10.......12/08/10........--/--/10....

Kasiraman...........11/01/10..........11/09/10.......12/07/10........--/--/10.... (Early Bio 11/29)

BAN.................11/02/10..........11/03/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Nineta..............11/03/10..........11/11/10.......12/22/10........--/--/10....

Debbylyn............11/05/10..........11/08/10.......12/20/10........--/--/10....

saradanielle........11/05/10..........11/12/10.......12/14/10........--/--/10....

Justagirl24.........11/08/10..........11/09/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Geostefan...........11/08/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

my-angel............11/08/10..........11/12/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

me262...............11/08/10..........11/10/10.......12/15/10........--/--/10....

SMB x2..............11/08/10..........11/10/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Jeff&Sylvia.........11/09/10..........11/12/10.......12/09/10........--/--/10....

Xochitl18...........11/12/10..........11/15/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

hum tum.............11/12/10..........11/15/10.......12/23/10........--/--/10....

Merlot..............11/13/10..........11/15/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

PattyS_Husband......11/13/10..........11/15/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

DisneyLovers........11/15/10..........11/17/10.......12/28/10........--/--/10....

briana10............11/15/10..........11/16/10.......12/29/10........--/--/10....

Vsfansfans..........11/16/10..........11/17/10.......12/23/10........--/--/10....

Jupiter07...........11/16/10..........11/18/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

caligurl............11/16/10..........11/??/10.......12/23/10........--/--/10....

KJC.................11/17/10..........11/18/10.......12/29/10........--/--/10....

SonoranSongbird.....11/18/10..........11/19/10.......12/21/10........--/--/10....

FaustlnAK...........11/18/10..........11/22/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

CHRISMATT84.........11/19/10..........11/22/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Abranch.............11/19/10..........--/--/10.......12/22/10........--/--/10....

timcass_12..........11/19/10..........11/22/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Kang Lang...........11/26/10..........11/29/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Stardust72..........11/27/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Vermont Service Center (31 applicants)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved....

Rheiys..............10/29/10..........11/01/10.......12/16/10........--/--/10....

R and F.............10/30/10..........11/02/10.......12/10/10........--/--/10....

AlHayatZween........10/30/10..........11/03/10.......12/30/10........--/--/10....

Robyn-n-Kris........11/03/10..........11/08/10.......12/20/10........--/--/10....

Sam and Metodi......11/03/10..........11/05/10.......12/08/10........--/--/10....

windycity...........11/04/10..........11/08/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Daniele & Jen.......11/04/10..........11/05/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Jeriii..............11/04/10..........11/08/10.......12/14/10........--/--/10.... (Early Bio 12/01)

kingtmac............11/06/10..........11/09/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

gemindsims..........11/06/10..........11/08/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

grahamandmegan......11/06/10..........11/09/10.......12/22/10........--/--/10.... (Early Bio 12/07)

emerce..............11/10/10..........11/12/10.......12/28/10........--/--/10....

Bobalouie...........11/10/10..........11/12/10.......12/22/10........--/--/10....

rugbydude05.........11/10/10..........11/15/10.......12/28/10........--/--/10....

JR&DI...............11/12/10..........11/15/10.......12/27/10........--/--/10....

DON2008.............11/12/10..........11/16/10.......12/30/10........--/--/10....

TigerTeddyBear......11/13/10..........11/16/10.......12/17/10........--/--/10....

Gypsyangel..........11/16/10..........11/19/10.......12/29/10........--/--/10....

Gelato..............11/16/10..........11/19/10.......12/28/10........--/--/10....

LSMA................11/17/10..........11/22/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

new2009.............11/17/10..........11/22/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

"rylee".............11/18/10..........11/22/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

tanyaru.............11/18/10..........11/22/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Zee Bee.............11/19/10..........11/22/10.......12/23/10........--/--/10....

Bigley..............11/19/10..........11/22/10.......12/28/10........--/--/10....

brnie80.............11/19/10..........11/22/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

E-MIGRA ............11/20/10..........11/22/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

drl.................11/20/10..........11/22/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

EastMeetWest........11/20/10..........11/22/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Nani................11/21/10..........11/22/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

JB_VJ...............11/29/10..........12/01/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

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Well, I am back too. Nice to see some old faces still around!

[California Service Center (20 applicants)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics......Approved....

pam&josh............10/29/10..........11/02/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Kasiraman...........11/01/10..........11/09/10.......12/07/10........--/--/10....

Nineta..............11/03/10..........11/11/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Debbylyn............11/05/10..........11/08/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

saradanielle........11/05/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Justagirl24.........11/08/10..........11/09/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Geostefan...........11/08/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

my-angel............11/08/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

me262...............11/08/10..........11/10/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

SMB x2..............11/08/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Jeff&Sylvia.........11/09/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Xochitl18...........11/12/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

hum tum.............11/12/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

DisneyLovers........11/15/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Vsfansfans..........11/16/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Jupiter07...........11/16/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

KJC.................11/17/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

SonoranSongbird.....11/18/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Kang Lang...........11/18/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

CHRISMATT84.........11/19/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Vermont Service Center (23 applicants)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved....

R and F.............10/30/10..........11/02/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

AlHayatZween........10/30/10..........11/03/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Robyn-n-Kris........11/03/10..........11/08/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Sam and Metodi......11/03/10..........11/05/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

windycity...........11/04/10..........11/08/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Daniele & Jen.......11/04/10..........11/05/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

kingtmac............11/06/10..........11/09/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

gemindsims..........11/06/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

grahamandmegan......11/06/10..........11/09/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

emerce..............11/10/10..........11/12/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Bobalouie...........11/10/10..........11/12/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

rugbydude05.........11/10/10..........11/15/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

JR&DI...............11/12/10..........11/15/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

TigerTeddyBear......11/13/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Gypsyangel..........11/16/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Gelato..............11/16/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

LSMA................11/17/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

new2009.............11/17/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

"rylee".............11/18/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Zee Bee.............11/19/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

Bigley..............11/19/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

E-MIGRA ............11/20/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

drl.................11/20/10..........--/--/10.......--/--/10........--/--/10....

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Handled nicely above....

Just to add - Protests at military funerals are disrespectful, but protected. That's exactly what those Marines fought to protect. Folks have the right to protest govt. actions and the sad state of affairs we're in now guarantees them extra press coverage if they do it at a funeral. In times past they would've been "escorted out" but now the media is there before the funeral and those Americans with respect for the dead who would've "escorted" the disrespectful people out in times past can no longer do so.

Either way though, protest is protected speech.

Just as a side note, we recently had a pretty big military funeral here. (Matt Maupin - Army MIA for a few years, returned home a few months ago) and there were some protests scheduled along the route. One of the veterans groups, the POW/MIA guys with big Harleys, rode along with the procession and every time there were protesters along the route they'd stop in front of them and rev their engines and the flags they carried would block the protesters from view. So, in effect the protesters still had the right to protest, but the vets still had the right to keep the funeral procession respectable. They did a very good job and still everyone kept their rights.

To address the other thing - If I had a dollar for every time someone called my wife a mail-order bride or Russian ####### or something like that I wouldn't be rich, but I'd certainly have more money than what I have today. But, if I would take action against them (KA-POW!) each time, I'd be poor because lawyers cost more than several dollars. Sure, technically their speech isn't protected but I'd be hard pressed to find a judge that would rule my right to feed them their teeth oversteps their right to say bad words.

See, I believe that it becomes a "do unto others" type of situation. I would never debase anyones funeral, military or otherwise, and I expect the same treatment. If I did do something like that, I would fully expect to have my teeth fed to me as a response. While I would not go to jail over words about my wife, I would go to jail because of someone defiling a funeral of a friend or loved one. There are lines, permitted by free speech laws that still should not be crossed. I dont think that the right to free speech should in anyway allow a person to turn off their decency switch and engage their mouths. Thats not what the constitutianal right to free speech protects.

No, NVC didnt set up my interview. I was a K1, so my case was adjudicated by the Vermont service center and sent to NVC. Your case was adjucdicated by the NVC since you are a CR-1. But, to my understanding, the NVC does not set up the interview appt. The consulate sets up the interview according to their schedule. I have always heard that Moscow gives you about 3 months to get your ducks in a row. In my case it was 2.5 months, but the interviews are set way in advance, and they only do about 10-12 a day. There will be a bunch of people ahead of you in line already.

hey my case was just completed at NVC how long does it take to setup up interview in moscow?

About 3 months.

3 MONTHS? Are you ###### kidding me?

It doesnt matter K1 vs CR-1?

I dont think I am, I could be wrong, but VJ has Moscow at an average of 189 days from NOA2 to Interview. NOA2 would be when they approved your I-130 on 8-28-08. So you are about 50 days into your 189 average for Moscow. That leaves you with about 140 days of waiting, or about 4.5 months. But, I could be reading it wrong. I have never been too happy with the way VJ lables their data. My K1 was 2.5 months from the time it left NVC to the interview.

hey my case was just completed at NVC how long does it take to setup up interview in moscow?

About 3 months.

I actually cut and pasted about twelve posts from Blues... but each time... mox pretty well summed up my answers. Great job mox, and by the way, it's definitely time for you to get some marksmanship and heritage training as well. APPLESEED!!!!

I've been to the range about 3 times with my new pistol and am really enjoying it. First time I went it felt awkward in my hands, but by the end of that day it felt pretty natural. By the third time it just felt like a natural extension of my hand. It's a great little gun!

You really shouldn't continue this conversation until after you've read the Bill of Rights.

Very much agreed on this, especially (addressing Blues here) since you're relatively new to the country and probably don't have a solid understanding of the foundations of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Although sadly enough I think most Americans don't have even a rudimentary understanding of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

To be fair, I understand that your opinions are your opinions and you're not trying to ground them in Constitutional law, but just expressing your particular viewpoint. That's fair I guess, but then please state your views clearly and stop with the name-calling. If you think people who support the Bill of Rights are "extreme liberals," then you should probably know that the country you now call home was founded by "extreme liberals."

I find it simply amazing that people are so willing to give up their own rights, rights that were fought for and folks died to give us. Rights that we've come to ignore in the last couple of years simply because it was inconvenient to watch others exercise them or we found it "popular" to jump on the bandwagon of their erosion because that's what everyone else was doing.

I'll sum up very simply and plainly - If we don't protect the rights of those we disagree with, then we lose our right to voice our own oppinion.

Martin Niemoller's poem "First they came" should be required reading of all Americans:

When the Nazis came for the communists,

I remained silent;

I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,

I remained silent;

I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,

I did not speak out;

I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,

I remained silent;

I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,

there was no one left to speak out.

I think the point that Blues is trying to make is that freedom of speach doesnt mean that if you say something offensive, in public, that you will not get your a$$ kicked. Those people had every right to dance in the streets here in America and show their solidarity for their people back home. No one should have told them that they cant. However, a warning of "you do it at your own peril" should have been included.

Changing the subject will not excuse your lame attempt to point fingers. There are plenty of directions to point. The reasons are many. But IMO, the two biggest reason this happened was because people are greedy and the regulations that were in place to keep this from happening were removed. Greed took over and new and innovative ways were found to bleed us of every penny. Unfortunately for all, the path that was taken to accomplish this was very risky and when it collapsed, it did so in a very big way. It is sort of like running around for a few days writing checks on an empty account. It works for a little while but then it catches up to you. I can guarantee you that Uncle Sam will not be there to make deposits into your checking account because you wanted to get rich quick.

Can you tell us what regulations were removed? As I recall, the regulations put into effect in 1977 (CRA) and strengthend in 1995, then the Sarbanes-Oxley accounting requirements are what caused this mess. Looks like we have quite a few regs to me. The cause of this problem, while the intent was admirable (removing racisim from the banking industry), was government involvement in business that forced businesses to do risky, potentially unprofitable things in order to avoid government inditement.

If Serbs had attacked US peacekeepers in Bosnia and killed even one, it wouldn't have been an airwar against Belgrade. The USA would have occupied it, of that we can be sure.

From that perspective, the Russians even look a bit restrained: they didn't conquer all of Georgia.

Thats BS and you know it. The US lets its people get killed all the time all across the world with a limited response. The recent embassy bombings a few years ago got nearly no response. We didnt occupy Yemen after the USS Cole was blown up killing quite a few people.

I remember George bush and John Mcain condeming Russia for driving tanks into a different country? What did we do in Iraq? Why does George W. Bush and the Usa think they are responsible for what happens everywhere esle in the world and trying to be like police?

Did the Georgian leader massively torture and kill his own people like Saddam did? How can you even compare what Russia's doing to what USA did in Iraq? That's another gross distortion that Obama's electorate is so easily succeptible to.

Plus, don't forget that Iraq war was approved by the Congress, whereas Putin is hardly accountable to anyone in his decisions.

Also, did you hear what Obama answered to the question about USA having moral responsibility to respond to "what happens everywhere esle in the world"? He says the same big words as McCain does, only McCain is actually capable of following through, while Obama will go and shake hands with every little Fuhrer who decides to wage a genocide against a neighbor country or his own people. Go, vote for him, sure, he's so big on keeping his promises.

The Georgian President killed 2000 innocent russians mostly women and children that were russian. (they had passports ect.) That is called ethnic cleansing! This is what Georgia did! Russia responded! Sadam was hung for those cimes. When Russia invaded Georgia this was on russian news the georgian leader tried to commit suicide. His advisors stopped him! he is a radicalist. We wanted to go to Iraq before 9/11! The main reason oil! How do you justify that? They used 9/11 and the term terrrorist to scare people here saying we had to do it! People inside the bush administration have admitted this! So I see two similarites! In my opinion and its my opinion I thnk Russia was alot more justified invading Georgia then we were Iraq!

Man you are so far behind what has actually happened over there it is funny. You are using an argument that was refuted about a month ago. You need to read some more. Hell, the Russians arent even disputing the fact anymore that they were actually in Georgia a day before Georgia actually started shelling.

Same story here. My wife bought her flat in Sochi about 2 years ago and renovated it. Before she came over to the US, it was worth about $190K, but there is no telling with the real estate boom that has happened due to the 2014 Olympics since she left. Coincedentally, that is the same price as our new 2100 sq ft home. Her flat would fit easily, balcony and all into our living room.

She got the money from the sale of her Grandfather's 2 bedroom flat after he died. He got it when all flats were privatized back in the early '90s I think. She got half the money and her sister got half, and they both bought flats and now rent them out. Her father, uncles, grandparents all built a house a little ways out of town on family land 30 years ago which is where her family lives now.

I seriously do not anticipate any problems.

If she has all her ducks in a row, I wouldn't anticipate any problems either. But it's always good to be prepared.

You said that her having a visa in hand, does little more than just give her the chance to stand in front of an immigration officer at the airport is not true.

Department of State issues the visa. DoHS controls the border. They are 2 different departments, and just because DoS issues the visa doesn't obligate DoHS to accept it. Do some reading in the other forums, you will begin to understand how this process really works, as opposed to how it should work.

A visa is access into a country, unless there is some outstanding circumstance not known at the time that would prevent someone access at the POE.

Not true. A visa is a de facto invitation, not access. You are not guaranteed entry. In fact, they don't even have to give you a reason why you are being denied entry.

I have never, read any member here, ever, writing that they or there SO walked into the POE, visa in hand.. and customs said, "Oh, your a single woman? From Russia? Hmmmm... nope... don't trust you. Go back to russia"

I don't recall ever reading a VJ post about a single FSU woman obtaining a tourist visa at all, especially to visit her boyfriend. But I have read many posts about women from other countries, even Western countries, being denied entry into the US, and she and/or the boyfriend had the distinct impression it was because she was single and visiting her boyfriend, and the PoE officers were not convinced that her visit was temporary. I've seen other posts where the contents of the luggage gave the officer a reasonable suspicion that the visitor was entering for reasons other than tourism, such as more than a couple weeks worth of clothes or a wedding dress. A tourist visa held by a young, single lady is going to come under more scrutiny, especially if she is from a FSU or other high fraud country.

I'm not saying that you should resign yourself to her being denied. But you also need to be realistic in your understanding of the process. You seem to be under the impression that her visa is guaranteed admission. I'm saying there's nothing guaranteed about it, and there's a TON of evidence on this site alone to back me up on that. Just be prepared is all.

I am not implying it is guaranteed. What I am implying is that the chances of customs stoping someone, who is visiting for less than a month, has just gotten their visa from the consulate, has no prior history of violating a visa in past, etc, are slim to none.

Customs and Consulate are two different departments. But Customs also knows when someone walks up to their little desk with there new little visa, that the consulate already interviewed and established that this person has strong ties to their country, and will be returning. Because if this person could not prove that to the consulate..... guess what? They would not be standing there with a visa in hand.

The Customs steps up more on people who try to re-enter the USA.

Now, I agree with you. If my SO had a wedding dress in her luggage, or she had 3 weeks of clothes... and a bunch of family pictures etc, they she may send off a red flag.

But than again, so would someone who was carrying contraband on them.

The problem with Single russian women.. not being granted access to the USA that you read about so many times from members here.. is that they NEVER even get the visa from the consulate to begin with. Those who did get their visa for the first time from the consulate, typically enter the USA just fine, as a previous poster (Slim) stated.

I think you are a little naive about this process. There are 3 places where you can get denied. 2 are when dealing with the USCIS and one at the DOS. USCIS looks at your stuff and if they deem that you meet/dont meet the filing requirements you are approved/denied the chance to appear at a consulate for further scruitiny. Then DOS looks at your stuff at the consulate and determines, in their estimation if you are being forthright in your application. They then approve or deny your actual visa. If, while under further scruitiny at the POE, the USCIS determines that you are not being forthright, then you are denined entry to the country.

Will they single her out? Whos to say, because like Mox, I cant remember a single instance of a tourist visa being granted to a person's girlfriend. Family members, yes, girlfriends, no. It would not surprise me to hear that she gets increased scruitiny at the POE. If not, great!

Ok, I talked to the Lady in Vladivostok today and showed her NVC letter that clearly states that I need to come to the interview on the date of Oct 14th to the US Embassy and etc. She said it is not the letter she needs, she claims that I have to have an Invitation letter from the US Embassy itself. Are they going to send it to me. I have emailed them about it two days ago but they haven't responded.

She still gave me a list of things that I need to do, but it seems like that she is not going to give me her conclusion until I show her that Da.. letter

Did you guys get one? Who can I contact about this at the Embassy?

It should have come with the packet from the embassy. We didnt get ours either. If you didnt get it, the embassy told me that you didnt need that letter to go to the doctor or to be admitted to the embassy on the day of the interview.

Grey area thread, please leave in RU forum as per moving guide.

Thanks.

Now whats this all about?

edited: nevermind, I found it.

Mox - Water is wet, don't you agree? Sheesh!

Best Bill Clinton impression: Well it depends on what the definition of "wet" is.

Wet like a warm apple PIE

Ohio's been good to me so far... but it's getting old. Or, maybe I'm getting older and starting to see it for what it is.

Time to move on.

Oh - well, in that case, there is always California.

I don't know if I could take California.... maybe Texas?

Straight shooters are always welcome in these parts slim.

Kick the bear (not poke the bear) is the ticket. Obama-esque dialogue will NEVER be taken seriously by Russia. They respect only strength. They threaten to point nukes at Warsaw? We will point nukes at Moscow. Aim missiles at Prague? Good, we were looking for a reason to aim at Novgorod. They won't like it, but they will listen after that.

History doesn't back you up on this. Ronald Reagan is given a lot of credit for taking down the Soviet Union, but the strongest words he ever used with them was his "take down this wall" speech. But that was after 2 very historic summits wherein Reagan and Gorbechev simply sat down and talked to each other. Granted the USSR was headed towards collapse anyway, but those 2 summits did more for world peace than just about anything else.

Russia really doesn't want war, but they're not about to allow NATO to completely surround them. And honestly, can you blame them? The US has been acting like a colonial power for the last 8 years. If I were Russian, I would not trust the US or NATO at all. So it's only natural that they're going to posture. The trick for the US then is going to be to convince the Russians that we really are their friends, and that can only be done through dialogue.

For this group, it shouldn't be hard to understand this. When you need something from your Russian girl, what works best...a direct confrontation, or something a little more subtle? The Russian character responds much better to subtlety.

Yeah what did you get from her? Her knocked from another guy.

Russians admire power and strength. They think the west is weak and always will back down. Australia has decided that they cease exports of Uranium to Russia. Canada will do the same soon. Russia will have to kiss Kazakhstan's bum to get resources. Every Russian elite have spoken to, thinks the world needs Russia more than they need tthem. They have only 17 more years of oil left based on present reserves. They have hyper inflation and fragile banking system and housing bubble that is going to make the sub prime look small. The west have to unite and be strong. They are expecting us to be weak and can freeze us out.

Your sources are of the wall. Just using common sense, by looking at the map you'd figure 70% of Russia is still untouched, alot of new Oil reserves have been found. 17 Years might be left without any new development of land, but they are always finding new reserves. One in Siberia that BP is infrastructuring, and plus just few weeks ago on the bottom of Lake Baikal, they might have found the biggest oil reserve ever found. Plus Russia is on good terms with Kazakhstan, but even if they werent they mine about 10% of world's Uranium. Which is enough to support all of their Nuclear stations and weapons enrichment. But Canada and Aussies do have the biggest reserves.

Yea, they have reserves, but they are NOT looking for new ones like they should. The 17 years is a vaild number that has been reported in various circles even here in the oil industry (where I work). That 17 year figure is based on current proven reserves AND the rate at which they are finding new ones. The simple fact is that they are not looking hard enough or fast enough. They can if they want to, but they are not doing it now.

1) Not a political windsock - changing position to suit the moment

Y'know, politicians take a lot of flak for this, but I think in many cases it shows maturity and common sense. When the first Bush delivered his famous "read my lips, no new taxes" speech, and then later had to reneg, he took a lot of flak from the left. But I think it showed a man who can adjust to the reality of a changing situation. Same thing with John Kerry. He was branded a "flip-flopper," but I can admire a man who recognizes when he is wrong and then corrects it.

2) Not an elitist

Honestly I don't even know what this means. As I see it, we *want* our politicians to be elite. I want them to have an ivy league education, and I want them to spend a lot of their time thinking, reading, and writing. Cutting your brush on your zillion acre ranch might make you "just a normal guy," but I don't want "just a normal guy" carrying the newkular football. I really don't care if someone is an elitist snob as long as they can govern with intelligence and wisdom.

But how does an elitist snob represent you and your interests. Since this is supposed to be a government by the people, even the president should represent your interests. Elitists generally are out of touch with the reality of 99% of the population. Thats how we get all the damn special interest groups getting their way. The special interests represent the elite (for the most part), and the elitists in government pander their wishes at the expense of "normal folks". That contributes to the broken system.

I would also point out that there are just as many people of similar intelligence that come from non Ivy League schools. Your Ivy League schools are really just Elitist preporatory schools where you also get a good education. But a good education can be had at the University of Iowa as well.

I was able to track it. Just have her give you the number from her reciept for the prepaid waybill. I wasnt able to track any intermediate scans that were made, but I was able to see when it arrived in her home town.

Thanks for the info. I have the tracking number. Were you able to see when it was picked up from the embassy? That's the only date that I'm really interested in.

As I recall, no, it didnt show that, but its been a few months, and the process was so quick that I really dont remember. Figure 2 days to process and two days to receive. That was what it was for us, and she lived in Sochi. Yours will probably be the same.

Thanks everyone! We are both very excited!! Tania is still trying to determine how long it will take to get everything done that she needs to get done before she leaves. Once she knows the earliest date that she'll be ready, then I can get some flight reservations made. That's the next challenge for us. Flights from Tomsk are getting difficult to book on short notice and more and more expensive in general. But, if things work out, she should be here in about two weeks, give or take.

On a side note, I had been thinking that we could track the pick-up and shipment of her visa by DHL tracking, but DHL told her that they don't enter tracking info for visa shipments. I'm not sure that I understand why, but I guess that's why I've never read about anyone doing this.

I was able to track it. Just have her give you the number from her reciept for the prepaid waybill. I wasnt able to track any intermediate scans that were made, but I was able to see when it arrived in her home town.

One more thing to add - after almost 250 years, I think it's time to dissolve the government and start over.

I am good to go with that statement.