Silnjoe

Just spoke with NVC, and it was indeed the "0" the triggered the checklist.

Advice to others: Do NOT round any of your numbers. In this case, it was not even rounding, but you MUST write the values in exactly as they appear on your 1040 or tax transcript!!

In hindsight, pretty stupid mistake on my part. Still, one would hope that common sense wins when encountering such a dilemma...

Hi all,

Got a checklist today stating that my line 13.a.1 (total income for 2013) was incomplete or incorrect.

I checked my copy of the AOS, and it matches what I had in line 22 of my 1040 (NOT 1040-EZ).

My total income was 0 (I only had foreign income during 2013, which is deducted before calculating total income).

The only thing is, on my AOS, I typed in exactly "0". Do you think they gave me a checklist for not typing in "0.00"?

Or could it be that they did not understand the numbers on my Tax Return and gave me a checklist erroneously?

Thanks and good luck to all!

Joe & Silvia

Resolved! Called NVC, told them about it. Said only Internet Explorer should work (as stated above, also used latest version IE). And I asked to report the error. A little bit later tried again and worked first time. Thanks!

Dear All,

I am trying to pay the AOS fee. It allows me to select the box, fill in the form with account information, tick the agreement box, and once the "make payment" button becomes clickable (after "processing" for a while), then it begins "processing" and gives an error each time with a timeout or the like.

Is this normal? I've tried on IE, Firefox and Chrome. Perhaps just their system lagging at the moment?

Thanks!

Joe & Silvia

Dear all,

From Saylin's guide to the NVC, she says you can avoid checklists by filling in ALL fields of the Affidavit of Support even if not applicable.

I would like to know how much that applies to the entire form.

- Does that include fields for Dates?

- Does that include all of the fields for Family Members (Part 3)?

- Does that include State and Zip Code where it does not apply for foreign addresses?

- In the Alien Registration Number?

- Does "NA" register just as well as "N/A" (see below)?

- How about the boxes in Part 5 where you write 1 for each household member? "N/A" in each of these boxes?

There are issues with filling in the "N/A" in the fields in Adobe. Some fields do not allow the "/", while others do (as with all things in this process, no rhyme or reason). So in some, I can only put "NA". Also, the State and Zip code fields become inaccessible when I put a different country (in the same vein, postal code and province when US is selected as country). And the numeric fields such as dates and the alien registration number do not allow letters.

Any advice?

We appreciate the help and patience if some of these are no-brainers. We just want to make this go as fast as possible!

Best to all,

Joe & Silvia

The NVC received our case from USCIS on 3 Mar. I have been calling them every other day to find out when they receive it. Now, they say to allow 30 days until the case is assigned a case number/IIN/BIN.

Does it typically take this long? Should I call every day anyway to just keep asking if it has a case # yet?

Thanks!

P.s. I tried updating my timeline but it isn't updating. I-130 transferred to CSC on 3 Feb, approved 20 Feb and now at NVC 3 Mar 2014.

Do you have a link to that? I'm trying to explain that to someone on another website, and it's not getting through to them.

omg i had the link somewhere upon a time

search my posts LOL

Copied below are links to a post I made earlier about the rates of K-3 approvals with respect to I-130s. FYI, I personally do not believe that the K-3 is obsolete. I've checked with multiple Tier 1 and Tier 2 reps that state that the I-130 and I-129F are processed independently. What happens is that if the I-130 arrives to the NVC first or whilst the NVC is processing the I-129F, then they automatically close the I-129F. My immigration attorney says that from 2010 - 2012 they were approving I-130s so fast that most of the I-129Fs got closed. Now, they're not processing so fast, are they?

Perhaps this link sheds a little light:

http://www.travel.st...isaCategory.pdf

If I am reading this table correctly, they issued 290 K-3 visas in Fiscal Year 2012. That number seems very low, and I imagine there were many more then 290 applications for a K-3 visa. Key word "imagine"--I don't know how many were submitted. Total Workload says 353 and Waived/Overcome says 35. This could mean they received only 388 applications for a K-3 visa in FY 2012 (?). Or, perhaps it indicates only those K-3s that were processed before an I-130, so we don't know the real denominator.

Compare that with the following table on Immediate Relative Visas:

http://www.travel.st...ort-TableII.pdf

Grand total was 88,769 Spouse IR-1/CR-1. Note, that these are issued at foreign service posts, so not the case of a K-3 entering and then adjusting status (I think).

Earliest records I could find were 2001, where they processed 3 K-3 visas, and then 2002 - 2006 was the big pick-up, peaking in 2003 at 13,623 K-3s awarded (vs 46,411 Spouse IR-1/CR-1). It seems at that time, there were better figures for K-3s awarded vs. the long haul I-130, approximately 1 to 3.4. 2012, it looks like it's closer to 1 to 341.

http://www.travel.st...FY1997-2001.pdf

http://www.travel.st...rtTableXVIB.pdf

http://www.travel.st...03 table II.pdf

Disclaimer: I do not say that these tables mean that submitting a K-3 visa alters or affects your I-130 in any way, such as changing it's position in the queue. I still want to know if that is a fact or coincidence with reported cases. These tables do seem to indicate that the number of K-3s awarded are miniscule and probably not helping the vast majority reunite with their families faster.

Alas, my answer changes over time.

Why? Many I-130s were sent to local offices for adjudication, even with having an 'MSC' receipt number. When the I-129F is submitted, the I-130 is yanked from the local office, joined up with the I-129F back at MSC or TSC, then there's a new clock on the I-129F.

As to stats, uscis/nvc/DoS pages, no, sorry - but - I'm a reader and a gister - the pattern I wrote about, earlier in post # 4, was current. It did change, that pattern, starting sometime in May.

If you've not filed yet, then you might want to try, as I-129F approvals are going rather quick this quarter.

I think I've noted maybe one person on the board who have actually gotten k3 visa since 2012. According to the statistics... 0.33% were granted in 2012 (about 210) so I'd say if that's not obsolete, I'm not sure what is until they take the path off the books?

Perhaps this link sheds a little light:

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY2012NIVWorkloadbyVisaCategory.pdf

If I am reading this table correctly, they issued 290 K-3 visas in Fiscal Year 2012. That number seems very low, and I imagine there were many more then 290 applications for a K-3 visa. Key word "imagine"--I don't know how many were submitted. Total Workload says 353 and Waived/Overcome says 35. This could mean they received only 388 applications for a K-3 visa in FY 2012 (?). Or, perhaps it indicates only those K-3s that were processed before an I-130, so we don't know the real denominator.

Compare that with the following table on Immediate Relative Visas:

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY12AnnualReport-TableII.pdf

Grand total was 88,769 Spouse IR-1/CR-1. Note, that these are issued at foreign service posts, so not the case of a K-3 entering and then adjusting status (I think).

Earliest records I could find were 2001, where they processed 3 K-3 visas, and then 2002 - 2006 was the big pick-up, peaking in 2003 at 13,623 K-3s awarded (vs 46,411 Spouse IR-1/CR-1). It seems at that time, there were better figures for K-3s awarded vs. the long haul I-130, approximately 1 to 3.4. 2012, it looks like it's closer to 1 to 341.

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/NIVClassIssued-DetailedFY1997-2001.pdf

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY06AnnualReportTableXVIB.pdf

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY2003%20table%20II.pdf

Disclaimer: I do not say that these tables mean that submitting a K-3 visa alters or affects your I-130 in any way, such as changing it's position in the queue. I still want to know if that is a fact or coincidence with reported cases. These tables do seem to indicate that the number of K-3s awarded are miniscule and probably not helping the vast majority reunite with their families faster.

Thanks Darnell. It looks like the basis of your claim is on anecdotal data. As much as I hate going on such, it seems like anecdotal data is the only data at our disposal.

What exactly do you mean by I-129f being processed quickly this quarter? If they are processed together with I-130, you mean that new I-130s are being processed in parallel quickly this quarter?

I filed the I-130 in August (from overseas, as USC resident in Spain, but with a pitstop in Virginia for my parents to add documents to the package). Are you suggesting that sending an I-129f right now could be processed more quickly than leaving the I-130 as is?

Hi Jaycali,

The major complaint I see in this forum is that the I-130 is taking longer than the expected 6 months, sometimes significantly longer. So, the rationale for keeping the K-3 seems quite strong. The two lawyers I referenced above say they regularly process K-3 visas, but I did not ask them how many get approved before the I-130 (and don't want to pay for another consultation to find out!).

Thanks for the replies!

Hi Darnell,

Do you have any links or evidence that what you posted is true?

1. when the I-129F arrives at uscis, the I-130 is pulled out of it's queue position and it put at the end of the queue with the I-129F.

Two immigration lawyers have told me otherwise, and a Tier 1 at the USCIS also tells me the same, that they are two separate files treated independently. Tomorrow I will call again to USCIS to talk to a Tier 1 and 2, to see if there's reproducibility in their responses. I've also done various google searches with nothing very illuminating.

Please tell us how it is that you know what they do with our I-130 in the queue if you submit an I-129F. Thanks!