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  1. File for the divorce in the U.S., and mail a certified copy of the papers to her.

    If she asks, you can put it through the documentation certification procedure for U.S. legal documents to be used in China. Your state's Secretary of State will certify the document's authenticity, then the Chinese consulate with jurisdiction over that state will provide a Chinese-language seal.

    http://houston.china-consulate.org/eng/vp/gzrz/t53297.htm

    Thanks so much for the help. I think filing in the U.S. I might apply for an annulment. On her side is this a long drawn out litigious proceeding or what does she have to do to make sure her status is ok as well?

  2. http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/452896-cold-feet-married-a-girl-from-china/

    So I decided to listen to my gut and go ahead and stop the process. I sent a notification to the embassy and withdrew my application.

    I just signed an engagement agreement with a divorce attorney and am planning on filing for the divorce here in the U.S.

    We talked tonight and it seems pretty mutual - she's ok with the divorce. However, she says that there are two ways to get a divorce because of the rules of the province that her home town is in. She says that I have to fly to China and go to her home town, we can get it taken care of in a day. Otherwise, doing it remotely using a form will take a year or more.

    From what I read, I could file for divorce in the U.S., and China would recognize the divorce.

    1. What are the chinese regulations on a divorce and split of marital assets? In short, there is nothing owned in common. I own a house in the U.S., but it's more true to say I own the mortgage on a house. We've never lived together, never had a shared bank account, no kids, basically - separate lives.

    2. If I go ahead with filing for the divorce in the U.S., is this ok for her as well? Will China recognize that and allow her to marry again if she desires? She's concerned about the status of her ID card and things like that (stuff lost in translation).

    I'm hesitant to fly back - the process sounds simple but flying to china, signing forms I don't understand, I worry they will be like ok - well you need to pay XX amount to her now, or something heh.

  3. Giving you the advise I would give my own sons

    cancel the process now, One does not go into a

    marriage with uncertainty,trust issues and it

    seem there's no undying love going on here.

    There was a bit of nostalgia and pressure that got

    you into this marriage, financially its all on U

    send a certified letter to uscis to stop the process

    and sign nothing more.

    You have to choose someone you are certain of so there

    can be happiness , trust & genuine affection

    Thanks so much for the replies. Many of your comments struck chords with me.

    Jihana really hit the mark. Loneliness (my part), nostalgia, and feeling a high level of pressure once actually in China led to being married. Honestly, it felt like a self-arranged arranged marriage. Like... we don't necessarily have feelings right now, but we both have a good idea of what to expect in the future. I didn't even have a ring, or kneel, or really even ask her. I basically said something, and she responded something like, "It seems you already know the answer". A week later, we fly to her home town and sign papers. A week later, I go home.

    The Skyping on weekdays at work was actually the first thing that really bothered me. I kept asking her hey... I'm not comfortable Skyping with you at work, there are all these interruptions, at least a few times you spent the whole time actually working. She was just basically saying no, every time. I'm doing this Sunday... or that... etc... Eventually, when I kept complaining and making a deal about it, she just boiled it down to the time difference makes it hard. She has to either stay up late or wake up too early and it stresses her out.
    So, I just kinda gave it up and said ok... She goes into offices when we video chat now, so at least the quality of communication improved, but yeah... still at work. I can call her on the weekends, she always picks up. I always call about 11am+ (her time, lets her sleep in), no earlier, and typically not on her nights. Ironically, this also means that I am always on Skype at night (her daytime at work). So if anyone is under monitoring, it's me.
    Perhaps the beginning of why I feel this way.
    Part of me wants to go ahead. She's a pretty good match. Not my dream girl, but... maybe my dreams are just unrealistic. I think she's honest, I'm a good catch. I'm an american born chinese, I speak chinese, I'm only a few years older, I own a house and a business. Pragmatism. I also care about her, I like her, I find her attractive and she finds me attractive.
    The other part is crazy freaked out. We jumped straight into marriage without a significant amount of time dating ( my last girlfriend I was with a year, in person, before I decided it wasn't going to work). No engagement, no dating, just whamo. Take a shot! If it doesn't work, you have a dependent! There are trust issues. There is uncertainty. There is a huge financial responsibility. There is a lack of a need to be married. I don't want to be alone any more, but I also don't even want kids in the next 5 years (neither does she). So... why? Why am I doing this?
  4. So I got married last year - basically a very rushed marriage. We dated for about 4 months years back and suddenly decided to renew things. Next thing I know, I'm in China, my parents meet her parents and suddenly we're married.

    We're pretty far along in the visa process and suddenly I have cold feet.

    I don't think I trust her. Every time I've asked if she'd like me to come visit her, or to at least plan to attend her interview, the answer is basically no... let's not waste the money. She doesn't seem to have any interest in having me come to see her. We also only skype during her work hours. Never on the weekend. She doesn't seem to think of me at all on the weekend. If we talk, it's because I initiated. Makes me feel like I'm associated with work.

    When we first met years ago, she was definitely in love with me. Very affectionate, and I knew that her whole heart was in it. This time around, well, we just haven't had time together.

    She's got a friend, a male friend, that she hangs out with sometimes. She actually took a vacation, saying that her friend is there and can show her around. One day train ride, two days there, one day train ride back. Pretty clearly she's there to see him. I think she made a mistake telling me he was going to be there, because after dropping that on me she didn't mention it at all. She's fully capable of lying to do what she wants, hiding secrets.

    I don't think anything is actually going on, more than likely it's just a last visit with a friend before finishing the visa and leaving China. She also has planned a similar last visit to a female best friend. I guess it's my own uncertainty, or my lack of trust in her that is steering me towards putting a stop to this. I didn't tell her my feelings because she hates being controlled, she doesn't need a second mother (her words). Her mother doesn't know about this trip.

    Whether or not I put a stop to it, this is only one side of the story, so ultimately any advice anyone gives is going to be negative. No need to ask for advice on that, I'll just have to make up my mind.

    My questions:

    1. I assume pre-interview I can easily put a stop to the whole immigration process. Correct?

    2. What are the divorce ramifications? We have no property in common, never lived together. We only had a few weeks together last year when we got married (in China). I'm a U.S. citizen.

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