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Hey guys,

Quick question:

Does the IO really bother and check with all landlords if you really lived in the last 5 years addresses you put in n-400? 

Because in my 1st address I used to live with my ex-wife, we had a small argument, I took my name off the rental lease, then 1 day later we came back to normal, but I forgot to re-add my name in the rental lease.

Then when we divorced and moved out, I've rent without contract, I just pay money rent in cash (so with this one there is no way IO can check, and he just take my words for it I guess).

So my concern is about that time when I took off my name then forgot to put it back. 

I'll put that address since I actually lived there. 

Would you guys recommend to put a note to explain it on the n-400?

Or just mention it to the IO at the interview?

Or don't bring it at all, unless the IO bring it up?

I already asked that, but I hadn't have a straight answer 

Much appreciated guys

12 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Whatever you do, do not lie.  You lived where you lived, and that's the truth.  In the remote event that a question about it comes up, explain just as you've explained it to us here.  Just avoid overthinking things to the point where you get yourself in deep trouble for lying.

Thanks for the reply, and yes I agree with you.

I'll of definitely say the truth, but hopefully the IO won't be like: "can you prove it?" .. then I'm not sure how to prove it. But yeah I don't think he would be a jerk and ask me such thing

I can wait for several more months till it becomes out of the 5 years window, but at the same time I'm worrying that trump might change the citizenship laws and makes it even harder lol 

You know what? I don't think they will check addresses we put on, especially since it's based on 5 years and not on 4 years where marriage is involved.

So I think I'll just put that address as where I actually lived. If the IO denies me because me not being in the rent lease, then I'll wait another year and apply without it in the 5 years window. 

But once again, there is NO WAY they can check if you lived in a given address IF you're not having an agreement with the landlord and you're just paying him/her rent (ie: most Craigslist rooms for rent ads) 

so I wonder why they ask for something they can not check

I wish some ex IO worker reads my post and elaborate for us on how they go about it

3 hours ago, sd2017 said:

I don't see why you should put anything but the actual address you lived at for the first year, anything else would be a lie. If you're concerned they won't be able to verify the address, then just wait a few more months until that address drops off the 5 year window.

Thanks for the reply. Yes I want to use that address because it's where I actually lived with her. So technically I lived there but legally not, because we took my name off the rent lease and forgot to put it back in (after that little argument we had). So my concern is that it might be a problem? If the IO figure it out? Or the IO won't bother to contact the landlord management office to check? 

Or should I put I lived in my car for few months? lol because IO only believe in what's on papers 

But the thing is: even my bank accounts were still using that address as I didn't change their physical address 

The bottom line: do IO check the addresses we put on n-400 and bother to call landlords? 

Hello guys,

Briefly my story:

got married to US citizen, at the airport of entry got 10 years green card(because I reached our 2nd anniversary year of marriage),  unfortunately she cheated on me (she admitted it) I couldn't live with this fact. we decided to divorce and stay friends (we still are), because I just couldn't bear it after few months of trying to forget it.
I'm going to apply for citizenship based on the 5 years rule (since I'm divorced).

My question is regarding my residence during my first year, so here what happened:

We lived together for few months, then we had a small argument, then we went to the property management office of our apartment residence and took my name off the rent lease.

then we went back to normal after 1 day (BUT we forgot to re-add my name to the rent lease again. until today I remembered that I completely forgot to do so).

then after we came back to normal, we continued to live together happy life as usual (after that small argument).

Few more months later (after she did what she did), we decided to divorce like I stated above, so we decided to divorce and we officially separated and I moved out of the apartment to my new apartment (to live in an individual home with an old grand pa from craigslist).

About a week later I filed for the divorce and put the separation date on the divorce application.

A month later got the divorce decision.
 

Continued to live my life and try to forget and build a new life which still being friend with her (I don't hate her but I just couldn't forget).

now I'll apply for the citizenship soon, and here is my question:

What would I put in the application for my first year residence? because of when we took my name out of the rent lease (after that small argument we had)... I think I will put that I stayed in the same address with my ex-wife till we decided to separate when I moved out, just like what really happened.
Or do you guys think the IO will contact that management office and find out if my name was on the rent lease? then they deny my citizenship because it's considered a lie? ...but I really stayed with her living happily after that small argument until we separated! even all my bank accounts still had the same address, and I only changed them after we separated and moved out.

Or best I mention it to the IO at the interview that we forgot to add our name back to the rent lease?

Or the IO wouldn't confirm all my addresses of my last 5 years and all will be fine? ...since I lived in 2 places where you just pay your monthly rent with no rent agreement or anything, so there is no way they can check that.

Or BEST I just wait for several more months until my 5 years of residence start to count AFTER we separated (to avoid that name taken thing all together) ?

Ps: I'm curious if they really check for every single address you put in the application during the last 5 years for n-400 based on 5 years rule?..
If anyone had similar experience would be greatly appreciated to share your story

thank you Medroni and Hugo i really appreciated every help i got from the Visajourney members

ohh Hugo ! it will really help me and give me a better idea about the questions that might be asked at the interview of your spouse just let me know which kind of questions and how was that Blonde CO with your spouse.

Good luck for you all guys

i wish you all a happy life with the person you love

thank you very much Saylin ! you have always been there to help members like me

i really like the way you come in the right time

so only non-immigrant visa such fiancee visa or tourist, ...etc whom would be scheduled a date interview by the embassy and not by the NVC right ?

anyway, thank you again Saylin, so i will not call the embassy i will just start preparing my self for the 100 questions that might be asked by that Blonde CO of algiers ohh but they got a new CO guy and they said he is nice though

i hope i will make it in may, 9th

hey guys,

well, i am the beneficiary from algeria, finally our case is completed at the NVC last week, and yesterday i got an email from NVC stating that we got an interview date, the email was attached with a PDF forma, the name of that form is: p4 for neopost ds-1200.pdf

the form says that i need to bring it with me to the Embassy at the interview date which it is scheduled for : May, 9th, 2013. so it would be withing 26 days from today.

my question is:

does 05/09/2013 is my date interview or i still need to call the embassy and schedule an interview date ?

because i have read many threads that the beneficiary calls the embassy or email them to schedule an interview date which is very hard to reach them

or since the NVC mentioned the date in that P4 forma means that is not nessesary to confirm with the embassy ?

thank you guys for your help

hi everyone,

the NVC approved our case 5 days ago and now we are waiting for an interview date to be scheduled.

how many days does it take the NVC for schedule an interview date for our case ?

i'm from algeria, the interview would take place in US embassy of algeria.

is there any algerian member who recently got approved and got an interview date scheduled ?

thank you guys very much for your help

of course you can publish it all members publish many links for many purposes, no problem you will help us so we would appreciate it i speak english, french, arabic so i offer my service for work

yes he is able to be a co-sponsor since he makes enough to sponsor 3 persons at once.

so he will just fill out i-864 and one for her as well.

thank you for your help guys

thank you "vanessa" and "Aidee Alcantar" for your answers really helpful, HOWEVER you forgot that i told you she is currently LIVING with her dad in his house. so they have the same address now BUT she just moved to live with him 9 days ago. does it matter the fact that she just moved to live with him recently (only 9days ago) ? or it doesn't matter and she can use him as a house-hold member ?

but she just moved to live with her dad 9 days ago, and she also changed her address at the NVC system it's already updated wiuth her dad's address, but only a week ago.

so what do you suggest me guys ?

thank you

can you tell me why ? what is your reason ?

and also: would it matter if her dad be a co-sponsor EVEN IF he is considered as a house-hold member ? or it doesn't matter since he can fill I-864 OR I-864A ?

thank you

hey guys,

first of all, thank you guys very much for all your help wich i really appreciated.

well, it's concerning using a co-sponsor or a house-hold member in such case like mine my wife doesn't make enough income since she works a part-time job as a student):

- in the instructions of I-864A they said that the house hod member is: "a relative who has the same address as the sponsor and is related to the sponsor as spouse, adult child, parents, or sibling"

- my wife mentioned in her G-3032 for USCIS that she lived in different address than her dad's one.

- in her tax returns of 3 recent years, she mentioned that she lives in her dad's address.

- her dad doesn't claim her as dependent in his tax return since she is independent financially.

- so the question now is:

*what would be her dad ? a co-sponsor OR a house-hold member ?

*if the answer is "house-hold member": does it matter that she just moved to live with her dad 9days ago only ?

thank you very much guys for your help

hey guys,

first of all, thank you guys very much for all your help wich i really appreciated.

well, it's concerning using a co-sponsor or a house-hold member in such case like mine my wife doesn't make enough income since she works a part-time job as a student):

- in the instructions of I-864A they said that the house hod member is: "a relative who has the same address as the sponsor and is related to the sponsor as spouse, adult child, parents, or sibling"

- my wife mentioned in her G-3032 for USCIS that she lived in different address than her dad's one.

- in her tax returns of 3 recent years, she mentioned that she lives in her dad's address.

- her dad doesn't claim her as dependent in his tax return since she is independent financially.

- so the question now is:

what would be her dad ? a co-sponsor OR a house-hold member ?

thank you very much guys for your help

but my wife and her dad used the same address in both of their tax return, so it means that they are living in the same house which is her dad's house, so do you think this is a good proof that she can use him as a house-hold member since they live together (their Tax returns is proof showing the same address.

so what do you think ?

note:

i've read a lot of topics that people used their house-hold members without the need for the financial dependence

my wife who is the petinioner doesn't make enough income to sponsor me (she is still student and she works a part-time job).

she was living with her dad for the most last 3 years and she moved to live with her mom for couple months... she moved to live with her mom right after i filled the DS-3032 choice of agent, so i put her mom's address as her current residence (it was about 3 months ago in december 2012)

and now she moved back to her dad's house, so she is living with him now as usual since a week.

so my question is:

her dad who will fill I-864A form as her house-hold member, and the address used in her tax is her dad's one.

she comes to change her address from her mom's one to her dad's one 2 days ago with the NVC.

my question is:

what is the minimum if time for the person to live with a person to be able to use him as a house-hold member ?

so what about my wife's case ? can she use her dad as her house-hold member eventhough she comes to move to live with him ?

hey guys,

we are dealing with the NVC actually, so just fast question that really confused my wife(petitioner):

can she use her dad as her house-hold member eventhough she just comes to live with him 5days ago ? or she needs to live with him for enough period of time for she can use him as a house-hold member ?

thank you guys very much

thank you guys very much for your answers ! ok now it's clear

just for you know guys:

the NVC probabely will accept the 2011 as the most recent year BUT my concern is for the embassy interview, because the consulate officer may ask for the 2012 transcript by the date of the interview which it would be around April ? ... or he wont since 2011 is still acceptable as the most recent year untill the month of jully 2013 ?

... you may tell me that my wife can just fill her 2012 tax, but she can not afford it actually since she didn't even start to process with her 2012 tax yet... so i really hope the 2011 would be fine as the most recent year.

hey guys,

well, i'm the beneficiary and my wife(petinioner)... ok, we all know that the IRS TAX TRANSCRIPT is the best proof of tax returns compared to the normal tax return.

my question is :

is it mendatory to submit the 2012 IRS transcript now OR we still can use the 2011 one as the most recent year, so the most recent years would be 2009, 2010, 2011. so what do you think guys ?

Note: the IRS transcript is already available for 2012, but when my wife called the NVC the operator told her that the 2011 would still be considered as the most recent year untill july 2013.

so we really got confused, since my wife didn't start to fill her 2012 tax yet and we really have to send the AOS to the NVC, because we are really late though.

thank you very much guys for any help