syee999

For this new Affidavit of support I-864EZ form in Question 25, if one's most recent year income above the poverty guidlines, should the 2nd and 3rd most recent year be skipped?

Good for you Charles in taking the initiative to do this

A few things

• Keep things consistent even though it is only an example e.g. keep the TFN the same throughout the form
  
• If including assets in the example, make the income below the poverty guidelines. Assets are not required when one meets the poverty guidelines. In the examples case it is way above.
  
• Can you get rid of the instructions at the front
  

Another thing to think about in relation to this post is the details regarding the co-sponsor (i.e. income in relation to household size/dependents). If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the co-sponsor have to include the beneficiary into this mix when calculating 125% of the poverty level.

Can syee999 (petitioner) fill us in on any details regarding the co-sponsor?

Income? Household size/dependents? Relationship to you? Location?

STL_HCMC

Hi STL_HCMC,

It's the same income requirement for sponsor and co-sponsor. In my case, it's in CA and my co-sponsor is a family member who does not need to support any one else beside the beneficiary. The co-sponsor needs to include the beneficiary otherwise what is the point of being a co-sponsor? IF the co-sponsor has supported or filled out the affidivit of support for someone before, that also count!

Well, hi your all

I just being update from a friend that one of their relative who recently had the interview with the consular in hochiminh, and yes seems like they starting to discard all the co-sponsor (not officially but did happen)

Somone told me that for K1 Visa the petitioner alone must meet minimum income requirements and CANNOT have a co-sponsor. Is this true?

3AD

False!

You, petitioner can have a co-sponsor if your income doesn't meet the poverty guideline.

Are you kidding me???? If this is true, these guys in HCMC are asking for a lawsuit at their door... Please give us more detail about this issue, is it an "undocumented" practice in HCMC to discard all cases with Co-sponsor??? We need to hear more from people who going through HCMC... That's crazy!

Yeah! That's true and last week my fiancee couldn't get a k-1 visa because I didn't earn enough income from last year and I did ask for a co-sponsor but the conofs in ho chi minh didn't take that into account! My past week experience has shown it's the case! Even though in the form I-134 states that I can ask for a co-sponsor if my income doesn't meet the 125% poverty guideline, but it's a contradiction!

For starters, the OP used a joint sponsor

Last year I didn't earn enough income about 4 grams and bought in a co-sponsor but couldn't help.

Sadly I have read posts where Vietnam may not be accepting joint sponsors. There doesnt seem to be any clear indictation as to whether this is happening as a standard or random from Conofs conducting the interview.

What members have to remember is that the I-134 is not the only thing a Conof MAY use to determine if the applicant will become a public charge when applying for a K visa. Its a totally differentt fish than the I-864. The I-134 is not a requirement of K visas but is often used, and even when used it stands to reason that there is no requirement for any Consulate to accept joint sponsors. Every consulate will be different in how they make their determination on the public charge issue.

I am sorry about the denial. Is it be being sent back for revocation? If that is the case, perhaps your only recourse is going to be to get married and do either K-3 if you will then have enough income of your own to assist in overcoming the public charge issue, or a CR-1 where the I-864 will come into play. Either way you will need to respond to ANYTHING sent to you regarding the revocation of the I-129F for this denial. See this article written by ellis-island http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6769&hl=

Lorelle

Ok, I just read the above post by the OP. Look at overcoming the public charge HERE Have a look at the links in the thread.

Hi Aussiwench,

Actually my K-1 visa case was not totally rejected as stated in the letter from Conofs, within a year the sponsor needs to show his/her financial improvement especially employment stability. I'm getting my new job and have just started a couple weeks ago so when is the right time to show the conofs that I am more stable now then before? I have no clue at all because in the explanation letter from the conofs didn't specify when and how ......

What sucks is that were this a case in any other country, my co-sponsor would be all that's needed. But because it is HCMC, Anh and I are pretty much ******. How we will handle a seperation that could last to late 2007 or MORE is beyond me.

I've made good money all of my life, but starting with my divorce I decided to make changes in my life and go for my dream and it's coming along, but slowly. And as a result I may end up keeping the love of my life stuck in her home country for a very long time.

I wish I had an idea of when her interview would be. How many months would I need a so called "REAL" job so that they can see I am "stable" enough to pay for my fiancee's needs?

Matt,

I dont know if you need show how many months you are working, you just need to prove the fact that you "ARE" working and making the requierd amount that shows she will not be a public charge. I believe that the more supporting documents she has in her hand when she walks into that interview will be much stronger than not having anything but just a co-sponcer and no job. You can send her paycheck stubbs, employee letter, and save what you can then send her the bank letter. You still have about 2-3 months possibly before her interview. It's better than nothing, but you need to act fast about getting "Real" job.

Hi Matt,

Yes, I agree with all of you, having a co-sponsor can't help your case. Consulate Officer wouldn't consider co-sponsor's income for k-1 visa. They rely primary on the petitioner's income! That's why my case got rejected. Just try your best to get a job and show your financial improvement that's what matters.

I also couldn't understand why they denied your visa! I thought it worked the same way in any Consulate...

Here in Brazil, I knew about a case where the petitioner couldn't sponsor his fiance... In the day of the interview they didn't give the girl the visa because of this, but they didn't deny as well! They only asked her to tell him to find a sponsor and schedule a new interview! So, few days later, she had her interview again and got her visa!

Good luck!

Yes... I agree with you but I heard a mixed news some said a co-sponsor can't used to applying for k-1 visa and other said it's ok to have a co-sponsor....For this case, they didn't totally reject my fiancee's k-1 visa and allows the u.s petitioner to re-submit additional financial documents only if the financial situation improve significantly!

Since I didn't earn enough income for last year and I've brought in a co-sposor who makes more than enough as a qualified co-sponsor at the interview and Consulate Officer said, " I can't use a sponsor for K-1 Visa, and she concluded that only the U.S petitioner's income is taken into account". This why K-1 was delayed and I have just been employed for a couple weeks will this help to prove to the Consulate officer that my beneficiary will not become a publuc charge after entering U.S. I don't know why on the USCIS web site states that if the petitioner doesn't earn enough income, he/she can ask for a co-sponsor but this is a contradiction ! I will try to appeal.

Hi All!

Since I didn't earn enough income for last year and I've brought in a co-sposor who makes more than enough as a qualified co-sponsor at the interview and Consulate Officer said, " I can't use a sponsor for K-1 Visa, and she concluded that only the U.S petitioner's income is taken into account". This why K-1 was delayed and I have just been employed for a couple weeks will this help to prove to the Consulate officer that my beneficiary will not become a publuc charge after entering U.S. I don't know why on the USCIS web site states that if the petitioner doesn't earn enough income, he/she can ask for a co-sponsor but this is a contradiction ! I will try to appeal and hope can clarify this case, thank you for your input!

You need to clarify for us. Do you or do you not have a co-sponsor? We cannot tell by the way you wrote this. I myself need a co-sponsor and will have to deal with Ho Chi Ming City. I'm terrified as I am hearing rumors they are now denying any petitions where a co-sponsor is involved.

On March 29, 2006 interview had been taken place in Ho Chi Minh, Vietnam. My fiancee's visa issuance was denied due to inadequate financial support (Unemployment). Last year I didn't earn enough income about 4 grams and bought in a co-sponsor but couldn't help. My question is this: currently, I have just been employed full time will this help to prove my case? Any input is greatly appreciated!

Well, I did use a co-sponser at the interview and the Consulate officer didn't even look at it, she said, " only the petitioner's income is taken into account and especially for K-1 visa, co-sponsor can't be used for applying K-1 visa! "

Hi all,

I myself will need a co-sponsor as well. Does the co-sponsor fill out the same form as the sponor? Where does it say about how and when to find a co-sponsor? I appreciate your help.

HI, the sponsor and co-sponsor will fill out the same forms exept if you use a family member who is related to you by birth, marriage, etc.. then you will use a different form. If you want to find out more details go to USCIS web site and read more about it. Hope this will help and good luck!

So sorry to hear your bad news. But yes,,,,,I agree with the other members that you should "appeal" if you are now fully employed and have a good income. Otherwise you would have to start the entire process over again at a later date.

Good Luck to you both,,,

Pim and Joe

HI, I will appeal but I 've just started my new job a couple weeks ago and not sure will this work out....Thank you for your advice!

I didn´t understand whether you had a co-sponsor or not, and if you did, why wasn´t it accepted?

Hi All!

income for last year was below 5 grams and I've brought in a co-sposor who makes more than enough as a qualified co-sponsor at the interview and Consulate Officer said, " I can't use a sponsor for K-1 Visa, and she concluded that only the U.S petitioner's income is taken into account". This why K-1 was delayed. I don't know why on the USCIS web site states that if the petitioner doesn't earn enough income, he/she can ask for a co-sponsor but this is a contradiction !

I would appeal the decision especially if you are now employed full time and make 125% over poverty line. if u still don't meet 125% get a good co-sponser. What went wrong with the last one?

Hi All!

Since I didn't earn enough income for last year and I've brought in a co-sposor who makes more than enough as a qualified co-sponsor at the interview and Consulate Officer said, " I can't use a sponsor for K-1 Visa, and she concluded that only the U.S petitioner's income is taken into account". This why K-1 was delayed and I have just been employed for a couple weeks will this help to prove to the Consulate officer that my beneficiary will not become a publuc charge after entering U.S. I don't know why on the USCIS web site states that if the petitioner doesn't earn enough income, he/she can ask for a co-sponsor but this is a contradiction ! I will try to appeal and hope can clarify this case, thank you for your input!

Is this AR or a total rejection? I think you should be able to appeal, especially if you have a good job making the requirements!

HI all!

It's not a total rejection the Consulate officer told my fiancee to submit additional fiancial documents at later time only if the u.s petitioner's financial situation has improved significantly within a year. The problem I have just started my new job a couple weeks ago and have no clue if this will be enough to prove my case.....?

On March 29, 2006 interview had been taken place in Ho Chi Minh, Vietnam. My fiancee's visa issuance was denied due to inadequate financial support (Unemployment). Last year I didn't earn enough income about 4 grams and bought in a co-sponsor but couldn't help. My question is this: currently, I have just been employed full time will this help to prove my case? Any input is greatly appreciated!