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UserName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Approved

------------------------------------2007-----------------------------------

andresamia...............06/29/07..........08/01/07........08/29/07........--/--/--

Stefanie.................07/16/07..........07/25/07........military........ON HOLD (>NSC)

sara535..................09/15/07..........09/17/07........10/30/07........--/--/--

----------------------------------------2008------------------------------------

bluegirl.................02/04/08..........02/08/08........03/13/08........--/--/--

lilshe...................02/21/08..........02/26/08........03/26/08........--/--/--

JayJay...................02/28/08..........03/04/08........03/29/08........02/13/09

LindsC...................03/19/08..........03/20/08........04/16/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

newoption................03/27/08..........03/31/08........04/26/08........--/--/--

sjjp1974.................04/22/08..........04/23/08........05/22/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

grrltraveler.............04/28/08..........04/30/08........05/29/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

gurney...................06/04/08..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

gerard...................06/05/08..........06/13/08........07/17/08........--/--/-- (>VSC)

Bocario..................06/06/08..........06/18/08........07/31/08........--/--/-- (>VSC)

laver....................06/23/08..........06/24/08........07/26/08........11/12/08

summersolstice...........06/23/08..........07/07/08........08/15/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

sherose..................06/24/08..........06/27/08........07/23/08........10/24/08

Buzz17...................06/24/08..........07/03/08....... 07/24/08........10/24/08

Yorkie...................06/26/08..........07/07/08........07/25/08........10/23/08 (>NSC)

Jonesie..................06/28/08..........07/05/08........07/25/08........10/23/08

Canuck Carrie............06/30/08..........07/15/08........07/25/08........--/--/-- (>VSC)

Mrs.J06..................07/01/08..........07/02/08........08/09/08........02/23/09

dcl766 (K2)..............07/01/08..........07/02/08........08/08/08........12/19/08

Craig2006................07/09/08..........07/11/08........09/16/08........--/--/-- (>VSC)

Kitty_Cat................07/12/08..........07/14/08........08/08/08........12/08/08

jeeleebee................07/15/08..........07/17/08........08/15/08........11/13/08 (>NSC)

jtkings..................07/15/08..........07/17/08........08/14/08........11/18/08

Expatriot................07/15/08..........07/17/08........08/12/08........11/25/08 (>NSC)

maika_tereza.............07/19/08..........07/21/08........08/15/08........11/06/08

fd_jaymz.................07/21/08..........07/25/08........08/22/08........11/11/08

fskrc1...................07/21/08..........07/28/08........--/--/--........--/--/-- (>NSC)

patti....................07/21/08..........08/08/08........08/28/08........11/18/08

Isleta521................07/24/08..........07/28/08........08/25/08........05/01/09 (>VSC)

amylovespaul.............07/26/08..........07/28/08........08/26/08........11/21/08

GregS....................07/30/08..........07/31/08........08/22/08........11/18/08

ToddHill.................08/04/08..........08/06/08........09/16/08........--/--/--

NEDO2....................08/04/08..........08/18/08........09/10/08........12/06/08 (>NSC/CSC)

Jomo's Girl..............08/05/08..........08/08/08........09/08/08........12/15/08

Juni.....................08/16/08..........08/18/08........09/09/08........12/12/08

Internetkafe.............08/18/08..........08/20/08........10/02/08........01/03/09

Bulanglang...............08/20/08..........08/25/08........09/26/08........01-26-09

kml_36...................08/26/08..........08/27/08........10/01/08........03/03/09

Smile!...................08/28/08..........08/29/08........09/30/08........12/24/08

Carol&Marc...............08/28/08..........08/29/08........10/09/08........12/16/08

SnowXTC..................08/29/08..........09/02/08.....Never Received.....12/16/08

runaway73................09/01/08..........09/04/08........10/01/08........--/--/--

wonky....................09/02/08..........09/04/08........09/26/08........12/24/08

shinkansen...............09/03/08..........10/11/08........10/25/08........--/--/-- (Walk-in Bio / Div. Waiver)

PrinceandPrincess........09/04/08..........09/08/08........--/--/--........--/--/--

Oly......................09/09/08..........09/10/08........09/26/08........12/12/08

gsmaclean................09/18/08..........09/22/08........11/03/08........12/24/08

rkl57....................09/21/08..........09/23/08........11/04/08........12/30/08

AnnaC....................09/29/08..........09/29/08........10/30/08........12/29/08

mamatom..................10/01/08..........10/04/08........12/09/08........02/03/09

wherezdabearz............10/08/08..........10/14/08........11/21/08........01/05/09

janda....................10/15/08..........10/24/08........11/25/08........02/26/09

sara9....................10/15/08..........10/22/08........11/26/08........--/--/--

Married My Love..........10/24/08..........10/29/08........12/06/08........03/12/09

garyandmarylou...........10/25/08..........11/04/08........12/02/08........01/09/09

Patluv...................10/27/08..........10/28/08........11/29/08........01/22/09

thefish..................10/28/08..........--/--/--........11/26/08........01/14/09 <rec'vd date

illumine.................11/03/08..........11/04/08........12/22/08........01/08/09

Keigwyn..................11/13/08..........11/17/08........12/13/08........01/21/09

Senyorita80..............11/13/08..........11/22/08........12/08/08........01/20/09

Andaline.................11/16/08..........11/17/08........12/12/08........01/21/09

Sweettweety..............11/21/08..........12/18/08........12/18/08........01/13/09

Megz.....................11/24/08..........11/26/08........12/30/08........01/15/09

Wrumug...................11/26/08..........12/02/08........--/--/--........--/--/--

Candace..................12/01/08..........--/--/--........01/06/08........01/12/09

N8+Ying..................12/06/08..........--/--/--........01/03/09........02/11/09

Mychelle.................12/19/08..........12/24/08........01/14/09........--/--/--

Bjumanja.................12/19/08..........12/22/08........--/--/--........--/--/--

rocky_fan................12/19/08..........12/29/08........04/03/09........--/--/--

Wichita..................12/29/08..........01/05/09........01/27/09........02/14/09

----------------------------------------2009----------------------------------

JohnL....................01/04/09..........01/07/09........01/30/09........02/17/09

shine4u..................01/19/09..........01/27/09........02/17/09........04/01/09

loonphang................01/26/09..........02/02/08........02/13/09........04/24/09 (with RFE)

Another1.................01/27/09..........01/29/09........02/24/09........04/03/09

MichaelaHassan...........02/10/09..........02/12/09........03/07/09........04/20/09

Together2Love............02/17/09..........02/18/09........03/14/09........04/22/09

*Bituin*.................02/23/09..........03/09/09........03/31/09........05/06/09 (No RFE/Interview)

ricebird ................02/24/09..........02/26/09........03/23/09........05/01/09

ReignVictorious..........02/28/09..........03/07/09........03/26/09........--/--/-- (>VSC)

ClovesC..................03/02/09..........03/03/09........03/20/09........05/06/09

milimelo.................03/03/09..........04/09/09(copy)..03/13/09........05/06/09

Lucy N Fer...............03/04/09..........03/09/09........03/28/09........05/04/09

B&P .....................03/14/09..........03/17/09........04/14/09........05/20/09

Shimmy...................03/14/09..........03/16/09........04/10/09........05/08/09

wjinsf...................03/16/09..........03/18/09........04/11/09........05/12/09

Seldommseene.............03/16/09..........did not get.....04/08/09........--/--/-- (VSC)

Creel....................03/17/09..........03/19/09........04/10/09........05/14/09

cesarestrella............03/20/09..........03/25/09........04/30/09........--/--/--

Arazia...................03/24/09..........03/26/09........04/22/09........05/28/09

~krakatoa~...............04/25/09..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

elwintro.................05/01/09..........05/04/09........07/06/09........07/20/09

nuzzledark...............05/04/09..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

ready4ONE................05/09/09..........05/11/09........07/07/09........--/--/--

featherB.................05/09/09..........05/11/09........07/07/09........--/--/--

csoul....................05/27/09..........05/29/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

elmcitymaven.............06/03/09..........06/09/09........07/03/09........--/--/--

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For the 751 form we have a child born in the US do we put that on the from under children?

I put the names of my two children on the form. Both of them are US Citizens. Just make sure that you state your child's immigration status as 'US Citizen'.

You can search the forums for more discussion on this matter. It's a bit of a contentious issue, so use your best judgement.

I received the card production email today! I don't know my actual date of approval since I haven't received my approval notice yet but I will keep you updated.

I wish you all a speedy approval! Silke

Congrats, Silke. I got the card production email today, too!

Congratulations to you too ! Did you get an approval notice in the mail? I'm still waiting for mine.

Yes, it arrived yesterday, apparently sent out from the Nebraska service center. My approval date was July 20th.

It's funny -- the approval notice is just some cheap computer print out, not even on the official USCIS paper or anything. I was slightly disappointed. LOL!

I received the card production email today! I don't know my actual date of approval since I haven't received my approval notice yet but I will keep you updated.

I wish you all a speedy approval! Silke

Congrats, Silke. I got the card production email today, too!

Hi folks,

Did my biometrics yesterday in Kansas City. Took less than 20 minutes. The place was practically empty -- last time I was there for AOS, it was like a zoo.

Checked my case status online today, and I got a touch yesterday.

Good luck to all!

UserName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Approved

------------------------------------2007-----------------------------------

andresamia...............06/29/07..........08/01/07........08/29/07........--/--/--

Stefanie.................07/16/07..........07/25/07........military........ON HOLD (>NSC)

sara535..................09/15/07..........09/17/07........10/30/07........--/--/--

----------------------------------------2008------------------------------------

bluegirl.................02/04/08..........02/08/08........03/13/08........--/--/--

lilshe...................02/21/08..........02/26/08........03/26/08........--/--/--

JayJay...................02/28/08..........03/04/08........03/29/08........02/13/09

LindsC...................03/19/08..........03/20/08........04/16/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

newoption................03/27/08..........03/31/08........04/26/08........--/--/--

sjjp1974.................04/22/08..........04/23/08........05/22/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

grrltraveler.............04/28/08..........04/30/08........05/29/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

gurney...................06/04/08..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

gerard...................06/05/08..........06/13/08........07/17/08........--/--/-- (>VSC)

Bocario..................06/06/08..........06/18/08........07/31/08........--/--/-- (>VSC)

laver....................06/23/08..........06/24/08........07/26/08........11/12/08

summersolstice...........06/23/08..........07/07/08........08/15/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

sherose..................06/24/08..........06/27/08........07/23/08........10/24/08

Buzz17...................06/24/08..........07/03/08....... 07/24/08........10/24/08

Yorkie...................06/26/08..........07/07/08........07/25/08........10/23/08 (>NSC)

Jonesie..................06/28/08..........07/05/08........07/25/08........10/23/08

Canuck Carrie............06/30/08..........07/15/08........07/25/08........--/--/-- (>VSC)

Mrs.J06..................07/01/08..........07/02/08........08/09/08........02/23/09

dcl766 (K2)..............07/01/08..........07/02/08........08/08/08........12/19/08

Craig2006................07/09/08..........07/11/08........09/16/08........--/--/-- (>VSC)

Kitty_Cat................07/12/08..........07/14/08........08/08/08........12/08/08

jeeleebee................07/15/08..........07/17/08........08/15/08........11/13/08 (>NSC)

jtkings..................07/15/08..........07/17/08........08/14/08........11/18/08

Expatriot................07/15/08..........07/17/08........08/12/08........11/25/08 (>NSC)

maika_tereza.............07/19/08..........07/21/08........08/15/08........11/06/08

fd_jaymz.................07/21/08..........07/25/08........08/22/08........11/11/08

fskrc1...................07/21/08..........07/28/08........--/--/--........--/--/-- (>NSC)

patti....................07/21/08..........08/08/08........08/28/08........11/18/08

Isleta521................07/24/08..........07/28/08........08/25/08........05/01/09 (>VSC)

amylovespaul.............07/26/08..........07/28/08........08/26/08........11/21/08

GregS....................07/30/08..........07/31/08........08/22/08........11/18/08

ToddHill.................08/04/08..........08/06/08........09/16/08........--/--/--

NEDO2....................08/04/08..........08/18/08........09/10/08........12/06/08 (>NSC/CSC)

Jomo's Girl..............08/05/08..........08/08/08........09/08/08........12/15/08

Juni.....................08/16/08..........08/18/08........09/09/08........12/12/08

Internetkafe.............08/18/08..........08/20/08........10/02/08........01/03/09

Bulanglang...............08/20/08..........08/25/08........09/26/08........01-26-09

kml_36...................08/26/08..........08/27/08........10/01/08........03/03/09

Smile!...................08/28/08..........08/29/08........09/30/08........12/24/08

Carol&Marc...............08/28/08..........08/29/08........10/09/08........12/16/08

SnowXTC..................08/29/08..........09/02/08.....Never Received.....12/16/08

runaway73................09/01/08..........09/04/08........10/01/08........--/--/--

wonky....................09/02/08..........09/04/08........09/26/08........12/24/08

shinkansen...............09/03/08..........10/11/08........10/25/08........--/--/-- (Walk-in Bio / Div. Waiver)

PrinceandPrincess........09/04/08..........09/08/08........--/--/--........--/--/--

Oly......................09/09/08..........09/10/08........09/26/08........12/12/08

gsmaclean................09/18/08..........09/22/08........11/03/08........12/24/08

rkl57....................09/21/08..........09/23/08........11/04/08........12/30/08

AnnaC....................09/29/08..........09/29/08........10/30/08........12/29/08

mamatom..................10/01/08..........10/04/08........12/09/08........02/03/09

wherezdabearz............10/08/08..........10/14/08........11/21/08........01/05/09

janda....................10/15/08..........10/24/08........11/25/08........02/26/09

sara9....................10/15/08..........10/22/08........11/26/08........--/--/--

Married My Love..........10/24/08..........10/29/08........12/06/08........03/12/09

garyandmarylou...........10/25/08..........11/04/08........12/02/08........01/09/09

Patluv...................10/27/08..........10/28/08........11/29/08........01/22/09

thefish..................10/28/08..........--/--/--........11/26/08........01/14/09 <rec'vd date

illumine.................11/03/08..........11/04/08........12/22/08........01/08/09

Keigwyn..................11/13/08..........11/17/08........12/13/08........01/21/09

Senyorita80..............11/13/08..........11/22/08........12/08/08........01/20/09

Andaline.................11/16/08..........11/17/08........12/12/08........01/21/09

Sweettweety..............11/21/08..........12/18/08........12/18/08........01/13/09

Megz.....................11/24/08..........11/26/08........12/30/08........01/15/09

Wrumug...................11/26/08..........12/02/08........--/--/--........--/--/--

Candace..................12/01/08..........--/--/--........01/06/08........01/12/09

N8+Ying..................12/06/08..........--/--/--........01/03/09........02/11/09

Mychelle.................12/19/08..........12/24/08........01/14/09........--/--/--

Bjumanja.................12/19/08..........12/22/08........--/--/--........--/--/--

rocky_fan................12/19/08..........12/29/08........04/03/09........--/--/--

Wichita..................12/29/08..........01/05/09........01/27/09........02/14/09

----------------------------------------2009----------------------------------

JohnL....................01/04/09..........01/07/09........01/30/09........02/17/09

shine4u..................01/19/09..........01/27/09........02/17/09........04/01/09

loonphang................01/26/09..........02/02/08........02/13/09........04/24/09 (with RFE)

Another1.................01/27/09..........01/29/09........02/24/09........04/03/09

MichaelaHassan...........02/10/09..........02/12/09........03/07/09........04/20/09

Together2Love............02/17/09..........02/18/09........03/14/09........04/22/09

*Bituin*.................02/23/09..........03/09/09........03/31/09........05/06/09 (No RFE/Interview)

ricebird ................02/24/09..........02/26/09........03/23/09........05/01/09

ReignVictorious..........02/28/09..........03/07/09........03/26/09........--/--/-- (>VSC)

ClovesC..................03/02/09..........03/03/09........03/20/09........05/06/09

milimelo.................03/03/09..........04/09/09(copy)..03/13/09........05/06/09

Lucy N Fer...............03/04/09..........03/09/09........03/28/09........05/04/09

B&P .....................03/14/09..........03/17/09........04/14/09........05/20/09

Shimmy...................03/14/09..........03/16/09........04/10/09........05/08/09

wjinsf...................03/16/09..........03/18/09........04/11/09........05/12/09

Seldommseene.............03/16/09..........did not get.....04/08/09........--/--/-- (VSC)

Creel....................03/17/09..........03/19/09........04/10/09........05/14/09

cesarestrella............03/20/09..........03/25/09........04/30/09........--/--/--

Arazia...................03/24/09..........03/26/09........04/22/09........05/28/09

~krakatoa~...............04/25/09..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

elwintro.................05/01/09..........05/04/09........07/06/09........--/--/--

nuzzledark...............05/04/09..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

ready4ONE................05/09/09..........05/11/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

featherB.................05/09/09..........05/11/09........07/07/09........--/--/--

csoul....................05/27/09..........05/29/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

elmcitymaven.............06/03/09..........06/09/09........07/03/09........--/--/--

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Got my bio notice in the mail today!

CSC May Filers

UserName.........Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.....Biometrics......Approved

venusfire503.........05/01/09..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

elwintro.............05/01/09..........05/04/09........07/06/09........--/--/--

ready4ONE............05/09/09..........05/11/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

featherB.............05/09/09..........05/11/09........07/07/09-........--/--/--

ktos.................05/22/09..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

flutter95............05/22/09..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

liebi810.............05/26/09..........05/28/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

elmcitymaven.........06/02/09..........06/09/09........07/03/09........--/--/-- [showing May filers advantages of June!]

VSC May Filers

UserName.........Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.....Biometrics......Approved

scooby06.............05/01/09..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

mozplay..............05/04/09..........05/07/09........06/11/09........--/--/--

fozzie...............05/08/09..........05/13/09........06/12/09........--/--/--

jane2009 ............05/12/09..........05/15/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

little4ele...........05/24/09..........05/29/09........07/06/09........--/--/--

LisalovestheUSA .....05/27/09..........06/01/09........06/30/09........--/--/--

celikkanat...........--/--/--..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

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CSC May Filers

UserName.........Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.....Biometrics......Approved

venusfire503.........05/01/09..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

elwintro.............05/01/09..........05/04/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

ready4ONE............05/09/09..........05/11/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

featherB.............05/09/09..........05/11/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

ktos.................05/22/09..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

flutter95............05/22/09..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

liebi810.............05/26/09..........05/28/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

elmcitymaven.........06/02/09..........06/09/09........07/03/09........--/--/-- [Top May filer procrastinator!]

VSC May Filers

UserName.........Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.....Biometrics......Approved

scooby06.............05/01/09..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

mozplay..............05/04/09..........05/07/09........06/11/09........--/--/--

jane2009 ............05/12/09..........05/15/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

little4ele...........05/24/09..........05/29/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

LisalovestheUSA .....05/27/09..........06/01/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

celikkanat...........--/--/--..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

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CSC May Filers

UserName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Approved

venusfire503...........05/01/09..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

ready4ONE...........05/09/09..........05/11/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

featherB...............05/09/09..........05/11/09........--/--/--........--/--/--

ktos...................05/22/09............--/--/--.........--/--/--.......--/--/--

flutter95.............05/22/09............--/--/--.........--/--/--.......--/--/--

liebi810...............05/26/09...........05/28/09........--/--/--.......--/--/--

elmcitymaven.......6/02/09............06/09/09.........07/03/09.......--/--/-- [Top May filer procrastinator!]

Biometrics date received today -- July 3rd! Still no physical NOA1, but now that I have a receipt number, I was able to go online and see that it was supposedly posted on June 9th. LIARS! Still, we're off and running now.

Hey, no fair! How come you filed after all the other May filers and received a Biometrics appt. first?!?! Man, USCIS is just infuriating...

I should probably add myself to the above list too, since I did file in May after all...

I was here to give advice and not arguing with people having childish behavior like you. I didn't attack or raise finger at your, but you went on full assault on me. So please be kind, we all have difference of opinions but attacking each other wont help us.

If you think you are right, don't be negative and go on attacking, rather give counter arguments with proof and recents approvals or success stories which proves your point, no demean others or tell other that they are nobody or you are more smart than they are.

Oh please! Stop your crying and grow up.

I gave you counter arguments and proof that your interpretation does not match up with the wording on the form and the instructions, but you just want to play the victim and have everyone pat each other on the back.

In the Instrustions it says list only conditonal resident children. In the form it says All. By All they mean all the conditional resident children.

No, the instruction sheet does not say to list only conditional resident children. It says, verbatim: "make sure to include any conditional resident children applying with you" (emphasis added). You're not even reading the darned thing right!

I don't mean this as an insult, but is English your first language? If it's not, then that's also a mark against the validity of your opinion on this matter. You've just proven to everyone that you are not reading the instruction sheet correctly. If you're not even reading the text correctly, why should anyone even bother listening to your opinion let alone attribute any weight to it?

I don't understand how can you sit there and pontificate that everyone's opinion is just as valid as mine when people like you don't even have a fluent comprehension of English? That's just trite and stupid.

Like 'mozplay' said, "What exactly do you mean by 'You People' ", You know that it's considered a racist and mocked slang in America.

Rubbish.

I know you are trying to show us your point of view but It's not that way to address others. We all respect and ecncourage different views as long they are towards attacking others.

More rubbish. The truth is more important than a warm, fuzzy, "I'm ok, you're ok", "everyone's opinion is equally valid" attitude. And the truth is that everyone's opinion is NOT equally valid. As far as the USCIS goes, you're either right or you're wrong, and if you're the one seeking immigration benefits, then you really have no margin for error.

I don't want to see honest folk getting their I-751 denied because they listened to bad advice on these forums, and got some wishy-washy attitude instead of the facts.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-751instr.pdf

In the form Instruction, it doesn't say "ALL Children" please show me where does it say ALL children. It says.

Go take a look at the actual I-751 form, not the instructions. Go to Part 5, and tell the class exactly what it says there.

Your interpretation of the instructions does not match what is written on the I-751 itself, and you're bending the wording of the instruction sheet to make it say something it's not actually saying. If the I-751 itself did not say "List all your children," then maybe your interpretation of the instruction sheet would have more weight. However, the instructions taken alongside the I-751 itself do not support the mutually exclusive interpretation that people like you and Haole are giving to others.

I think you people could be harming others with your bad interpretations. Why should I respect and encourage your views if I think they're harming others? Put that in your "I'm ok, you're ok" pipe and smoke it.

And exactly what do you mean by "you people"? If there were no such thing as interpretation, then history would never be written.

I mean people like Haole and Immigrant2009 who give people bad advice and bad interpretations of the I-751 and its instructions.

And, elwintro, you seem to be the only person who understands this clearly - lucky you. For anyone else wanting to ask questions ... even if those questions are only asked to double check what they already know ... that's what this forum is for.

I'm not against those who are uncertain and want to ask questions, I'm against those who provide a response to those questions that is wrong and misinforming people. If you take someone's bad advice on these forums and your immigration benefit is denied as a result, then you are absolutely high and dry. I don't want to see that happen, but that may be what it'll take before people like Haole stop spreading FUD.

So, thank you for your take on it - it is as valuable as anyone and everyone else's.

No, it's not. As someone who has kids and had to face Part 5 of the I-751, my take is more valuable than yours because you don't have any kids. So take your self-righteous "I'm ok, you're ok" attitude and shove it.

The Instructions for I-751 Clearly indicates to include in part 5 only children who have conditional residency, meaning they got GC alongwith no resident parent via marriage to USC.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-751instr.pdf

Conditional Resident Children

In Part 5 of the form, please make sure to include any conditional resident children applying with you in order to have their conditional basis removed, or they may file separately. Please remember to provide their A-number.

Look, I hashed this out with Haole et al. on a couple of threads recently. The instructions for the I-751 DO NOT clearly indicate that Part 5 is ONLY for conditional resident children applying with you. That is a bogus interpetation.

I don't know what's wrong with you people and your comprehension of the English language and the simple instructions given by the USCIS. Part 5 on the I-751 says to list ALL your children, and the instructions sheet says to "make sure to include any conditional resident children applying with you." These are not mutually exclusive statements.

List all your children, and make sure you include the conditional resident children applying with you -- it's as simple as that. Stop over interpreting the form and twisting these very simple instructions into some weird contradiction that doesn't make any sense.

If you are the conditional resident applying for the I-751 immigration benefit, then list all of your children in Part 5, whether they are the product of a previous marriage or of your current marriage to a US Citizen. If your children are already US Citizens, then DO NOT list an A# even if they previously had one -- this is what Haole did for his adopted daughter, and it's what got him into trouble because the USCIS saw the A# and thought that she was applying for the I-751 beneft too (obviously, if the USCIS had checked his daughter's record, they would have seen that she was admitted to citizenship and therefore not needing the I-751 benefit, but they clearly did not do that). I managed to clarify this with him on a different thread, but yet here he is again on this thread spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt when the reality is he made a mistake which generated all his trouble.

All you need to do is read the form and the instructions and just do exactly what they say. If your kids are US Citizens already, then the A# column does not apply to them, even if they once had an A# (they are citizens now, not alien residents, even though naturalized citizens still technically have an A#). As far as I am aware, if you're a naturalized citizen, the only time you need to tell the USCIS your A# is if you need to get a copy of your naturalization certificate so they can reference you. However, if you feel compelled to list an A# for a child not applying with you on the I-751, then, for goodness sake, do what someone suggested earlier and create an attachment to your I-751 explaining, in detail, what's going on and who's applying with you and who's not. This is the best way to eliminate any possible confusion on the part of the USCIS.

Ha, sounds exactly like my significant other... just in our case, he's the US citizen and I get stuck with all paperwork. When the moment comes where all he has to do is hand over the tax return papers for me to copy, sign the darn form and cover letter it's almost more than he can handle... I just raise my eyebrow when he asks why "we" have to do all this bs.

I hope I get my package on the way on Saturday

I feel bad for you ladies. I'm the immigrant husband of a US Citizen spouse, and I took care of absolutely everything related to our I-751 petition as my poor wife already has enough to deal with (two kids under 3, a dog, house work, administering our finances, etc.).

Sounds like your men need a good kick in the #######. LOL! Or at least a reminder that it's thoroughly unmanly to run away from your problems and hide behind your wife's legs.

Hi - wow, hardly seems like almost 2 yrs have passed since regularly frequenting VJ from K1 to AOS.

I've read through numerous posts and only saw a few remarks on financial/privacy concerns.

I'm ready to send bank statements, joint credit card copies, etc. I believe I saw one remark on marking out all but last 4 digits on credit card copies. I've also read to include all pages of bank statements even though both names are on page 1.

So any thoughts on exposing all one's financial info on bank statements, like where all those checks etc went, or full account numbers regarding credit cards and statements?

thanks much

I took no steps to conceal any info on the bank statements I included, and I included very detailed statements which had every debit and credit card transaction, every deposit and withdrawal, and every check. I have absolutely nothing to hide from the government, especially with respect to the immigration process.

If you're worried about something bad happening because you've exposed all that information, then, really, what's the worst that could happen? There's an unscrupulous government employee who steals your identity, but you manage to trace it all back to the USCIS, so you sue them for damages?

However, if you're asking this question out of some libertarian desire to keep the government out of your life, then I have little sympathy or soothing advice for you.

We want to send CSC more evidence for our case, Is this Ok to do

I probably wouldn't want to bother unless I got an RFE or an interview request. However, if your initial evidence was weak, or you're just paranoid about the USCIS rejecting your petition for some whimsical reason, then I can understand why you are asking this question.

Today, my NOA1 arrived in the mail. It had this interesting paragraph towards the end saying that, if I haven't already done so, I should provide supporting documents to assist the USCIS in processing my petition. It then went on to give a similar short list of possible evidence as is given in the I-751 instructions. The important line for you, I guess, is where it said: PLEASE INCLUDE A COPY OF THIS RECEIPT NOTICE WITH ANY SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS YOU SUBMIT. (Yes, the caps were in the original too.)

I thought it was weird that there was the implication that you could file the I-751 now, and mail in the evidence later (LOL!), but, for you, if you really really wanted to send in more evidence, then do make sure to attach a copy of your receipt notice, and a good cover letter to explain what you're sending them and why.

Good luck!

My NOA1 receipt notice/extension letter arrived in the mail today! Yeah!

UserName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Approved

andresamia...........06/29/07..........08/01/07........08/29/07........--/--/--

Stefanie.............07/16/07..........07/25/07........military........ON HOLD (>NSC)

sara535..............09/15/07..........09/17/07........10/30/07........--/--/--

bluegirl.............02/04/08..........02/08/08........03/13/08........--/--/--

lilshe...............02/21/08..........02/26/08........03/26/08........--/--/--

LindsC...............03/19/08..........03/20/08........04/16/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

newoption............03/27/08..........03/31/08........04/26/08........--/--/--

sjjp1974.............04/22/08..........04/23/08........05/22/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

grrltraveler.........04/28/08..........04/30/08........05/29/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

gurney...............06/04/08..........--/--/--........--/--/--/.......--/--/--

gerard...............06/05/08..........06/13/08........07/17/08........--/--/-- (>VSC)

laver................06/23/08..........06/24/08........07/26/08........11/12/08

sherose..............06/24/08..........06/27/08........07/23/08........10/24/08

Buzz17...............06/24/08..........07/03/08....... 07/24/08........10/24/08

Yorkie...............06/26/08..........07/07/08........07/25/08........10/23/08 (>NSC)

Mrs.J06..............07/01/08..........07/02/08........08/09/08........02/23/09

dcl766 (K2)..........07/01/08..........07/02/08........08/08/08........12/19/08

Craig2006............07/09/08..........07/11/08........09/16/08........--/--/-- (>VSC)

Bocario..............06/06/08..........06/18/08........07/31/08........--/--/-- (>VSC)

Jonesie..............06/28/08..........07/05/08........07/25/08........10/23/08

summersolstice.......06/23/08..........07/07/08........08/15/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

Canuck Carrie........06/30/08..........07/15/08........07/25/08........--/--/-- (>VSC)

Kitty_Cat............07/12/08..........07/14/08........08/08/08........12/08/08

jeeleebee............07/15/08..........07/17/08........08/15/08........11/13/08 (>NSC)

jtkings..............07/15/08..........07/17/08........08/14/08........11/18/08

Expatriot............07/15/08..........07/17/08........08/12/08........11/25/08 (>NSC)

maika_tereza.........07/19/08..........07/21/08........08/15/08........11/06/08

fd_jaymz.............07/21/08..........07/25/08........08/22/08........11/11/08

fskrc1...............07/21/08..........07/28/08........--/--/--........--/--/-- (>NSC)

patti................07/21/08..........08/08/08........08/28/08........11/18/08

Isleta521............07/24/08..........07/28/08........08/25/08........05/01/09 (>VSC)

amylovespaul.........07/26/08..........07/28/08........08/26/08........11/21/08

GregS................07/30/08..........07/31/08........08/22/08........11/18/08

ToddHill.............08/04/08..........08/06/08........09/16/08........--/--/--

NEDO2................08/04/08..........08/18/08........09/10/08........12/06/08 (>NSC/CSC)

Jomo's Girl..........08/05/08..........08/08/08........09/08/08........12/15/08

Juni.................08/16/08..........08/18/08........09/09/08........12/12/08

Internetkafe.........08/18/08..........08/20/08........10/02/08........01/03/09

Bulanglang...........08/20/08..........08/25/08........09/26/08........01-26-09

kml_36...............08/26/08..........08/27/08........10/01/08........03/03/09

Smile!...............08/28/08..........08/29/08........09/30/08........12/24/08

Carol&Marc...........08/28/08..........08/29/08........10/09/08........12/16/08

SnowXTC..............08/29/08..........09/02/08.....Never Received.....12/16/08

runaway73............09/01/08..........09/04/08........10/01/08........--/--/--

wonky................09/02/08..........09/04/08........09/26/08........12/24/08

shinkansen...........09/03/08..........10/11/08........10/25/08........--/--/-- (Walk-in Bio / Div. Waiver)

PrinceandPrincess....09/04/08..........09/08/08........--/--/--........--/--/--

Oly..................09/09/08..........09/10/08........09/26/08........12/12/08

gsmaclean............09/18/08..........09/22/08........11/03/08........12/24/08

rkl57................09/21/08..........09/23/08........11/04/08........12/30/08

AnnaC................09/29/08..........09/29/08........10/30/08........12/29/08

mamatom..............10/01/08..........10/04/08........12/09/08........02/03/09

wherezdabearz........10/08/08..........10/14/08........11/21/08........01/05/09

janda................10/15/08..........10/24/08........11/25/08........02/26/09

Married My Love......10/24/08..........10/29/08........12/06/08........03/12/09

garyandmarylou.......10/25/08..........11/04/08........12/02/08........01/09/09

Patluv...............10/27/08..........10/28/08........11/29/08........01/22/09

thefish..............10/28/08..........--/--/--........11/26/08........01/14/09 <rec'vd date

illumine.............11/03/08..........11/04/08........12/22/08........01/08/09

Keigwyn..............11/13/08..........11/17/08........12/13/08........01/21/09

Senyorita80..........11/13/08..........11/22/08........12/08/08........01/20/09

Sweettweety..........11/21/08..........12/18/08........12/18/08........01/13/09

Megz.................11/24/08..........11/26/08........12/30/08........01/15/09

Wrumug...............11/26/08..........12/02/08........--/--/--........--/--/--

Andaline.............11/16/08..........11/17/08........12/12/08........01/21/09

Candace..............12/01/08..........--/--/--........01/06/08........01/12/09

N8+Ying..............12/06/08..........--/--/--........01/03/09........02/11/09

Mychelle.............12/19/08..........12/24/08........01/14/09........--/--/--

Wichita..............12/29/08..........01/05/09........01/27/09........02/14/09

JohnL................01/04/09..........01/07/09........01/30/09........02/17/09

MichaelaHassan.......02/10/09..........02/12/09........03/07/09........04/20/09

Another1.............01/27/09..........01/29/09........02/24/09........04/03/09

Together2Love........02/17/09..........02/18/09........03/14/09........04/22/09

ReignVictorious......02/28/09..........03/07/09........03/26/09........--/--/-- (>VSC)

JayJay...............02/28/08..........03/04/08........03/29/08........02/13/09

Bjumanja.............12/19/08..........12/22/08........--/--/--........--/--/--

ClovesC..............03/02/09..........03/03/09........03/20/09........05/06/09

milimelo.............03/03/09..........04/09/09(copy)..03/13/09........05/06/09

Creel................03/17/09..........03/19/09........04/10/09........--/--/--

Lucy N Fer...........03/04/09..........03/09/09........03/28/09........05/04/09

B&P .................03/14/09..........03/17/09........04/14/09........--/--/--

Shimmy...............03/14/09..........03/16/09........04/10/09........05/08/09

wjinsf...............03/16/09..........03/18/09........04/11/09........05/12/09

Arazia...............03/24/09..........03/26/09........04/22/09........--/--/--

ricebird ............02/24/09..........02/26/09........03/23/09........05/01/09

shine4u..............01/19/09..........01/27/09........02/17/09........04/01/09

cesarestrella........03/20/09..........03/25/09........04/30/09........--/--/--

rocky_fan............12/19/08..........12/29/08........04/03/09........--/--/--

loonphang............01/26/09..........02/02/08........02/13/09........04/24/09 (with RFE)

~krakatoa~...........04/25/09..........

elwintro.............05/01/09..........05/04/09........

nuzzledark...........05/04/09..........

Seldommseene.........03/16/09..........did not get.....04/08/09........--/--/-- vsc

*Bituin*.............02/23/09..........03/09/09........03/31/09........05/06/09 (No RFE/Interview)

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PLEASE DO NOT DELETE THESE INSTRUCTIONS - Thanks!

So can i renew my drivers license then without a NOA1 or Stamp? My Green Card has expired!

It depends on what the rules are in the state of Nevada (or wherever it is that you reside).

When I need to get a KS drivers license a few months ago, I did have to show my Green Card, even though the guy at the Drivers Licnese Bureau didn't look too closely at it.

I see from your signature that your check was recently cashed by the CSC. Your NOA1/extension letter shouldn't be too far away!

Hi VJers.

I filed my I-751 with the CSC last week, but my conditional Green Card is set to expire a week on Saturday (i.e., 05/16/09).

If I do not receive my NOA1/extension letter by then, will I still be legal enough to keep working after my GC expiry date until the extension letter arrives?

Has anyone been in this situation before?

(Note: My petition was delivered and signed for at the CSC, and my check has not yet been cashed. I don't anticipate any problems with the CSC accepting my petition - everything has been signed and dated: the I-751, I-751 attachments, the check [made payable to US Department of Homeland Security for $545])

Thanks!

Here's the list again:

UserName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Approved

andresamia...........06/29/07..........08/01/07........08/29/07........--/--/--

Stefanie.............07/16/07..........07/25/07........military........ON HOLD (>NSC)

sara535..............09/15/07..........09/17/07........10/30/07........--/--/--

bluegirl.............02/04/08..........02/08/08........03/13/08........--/--/--

lilshe...............02/21/08..........02/26/08........03/26/08........--/--/--

LindsC...............03/19/08..........03/20/08........04/16/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

newoption............03/27/08..........03/31/08........04/26/08........--/--/--

sjjp1974.............04/22/08..........04/23/08........05/22/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

grrltraveler.........04/28/08..........04/30/08........05/29/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)

gurney...............06/04/08..........--/--/--........--/--/--/.......--/--/--

gerard...............06/05/08..........06/13/08........07/17/08........--/--/-- (>VSC)

laver................06/23/08..........06/24/08........07/26/08........11/12/08

sherose..............06/24/08..........06/27/08........07/23/08........10/24/08

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I think the form asks for all children, however the instructions say:

Conditional Resident Children

In Part 5 of the form, please make sure to include any conditional resident children applying with you in order to have their conditional basis removed, or they may file separately. Please remember to provide their A-number.

Thus it would appear Part 5 is specifically the place to list children removing conditions with the petition, not 'all' children as asked.

Look, your reasoning does not make sense. The form says "list ALL your children", the instructions say "make sure to include conditional resident children" -- there is no contradiction here! The instructions are merely reminding you to include conditional resident children in the list of ALL your children.

Why are you twisting the meaning of the instructions to derive a conclusion which contradicts the wording both on the form and the instructions? Is it really that hard to understand the very simple English used by the USCIS here?

We have a few days to go before being ready to file, and am completely uncomfortable either way, as the form and instructions literally SUCK on this point...

We have three children, 2 mine from previous marriage, plus our own child together, and would love to list the three, but don't want to fill out the form wrong. Unfortunately the instructions on the form and separate instructions for the I-751 do not mesh.

Thinking critically, I think whoever created the form and instructions failed to real world test them!

The wording on the form and the separate instructions DO mesh, you're just twisting them up in your head to mean something different and are seeing a contradiction which does not exist.

I'm not going to tell you what to do, but your interpretation of the form and the instructions is just plain wrong. I think you should list all three of your children in Part 5 of the I-751, write 'N/A' for each of them in the A# column, and write "US Citizen/Address as in Part 1" for each of them in the immigration status column. If you put an A# in the A# column when you don't have to, like in Haole's case, then the USCIS is going to think that child is a conditional resident, so think about this carefully if your child's situation is not straight forward in this regard.

If you want to forge ahead with your misinterpretation of the I-751 and its instructions, and not include your three children in part 5, then don't come back here to whine when you get an RFE or your packet is returned to you because the USCIS judged your I-751 to be incorrect or incomplete.

I'm sorry for my somewhat harsh tone here, I'm just annoyed that many people seem to be twisting up the wording of this form and coming to conclusions which may put their petition in jeopardy. The last thing I want to see is people getting into trouble with the USCIS.

All's I know is we went thru hell because I listed my US citizen daughter under Part 5. Because of such I sure wouldn't do so again if I had to do it all again.

There is no reason to list US citizen children there.

Yes, there is. How about the text which says to "list ALL YOUR CHILDREN"?

Put their BCs with all the other evidence of a valid ongoing marriage. That's basically the only reason to list kids anywhere unless you want to remove their conditions.

Just trying to help others from having to go thru the stress and hell we did.

Well, they can avoid that by including an attachment to their I-751, signed and dated, explaining the special circumstances of their situation, which is apparently something you failed to do. It's not the USCIS's fault if you did not adequately clarify your daughter's immigration status, especially when there was obviously conflicting information in your paperwork.

By the sounds of it, your bad experience was mostly your own failure to put yourself in the position of the USCIS case adjudicator when you were preparing your petition. If you don't tailor your evidence for someone who a) doesn't know you, and B) doesn't care to know anything more than is necessary to adjudicate your case, then how can you blame the USCIS if they incorrectly interpret what you've given them?

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but it really does sound like you've only got yourself to blame.

I think not listing children is absolutely correct according to the instructions, although it clearly fails to "list all children" per the actual form.

I strongly disagree with you. When the government say to "List all your children" then you list ALL YOUR CHILDREN. Period.

The instructions absolutely indicate, and I quote:

Conditional Resident Children

In Part 5 of the form, please make sure to include any conditional resident children applying with you in order to have their conditional basis removed, or they may file separately. Please remember to provide their A-number.

That is the sum total of instructions regarding this I-751 section, emphasis added.

Right, make sure you include any conditional resident children applying with you when you list ALL YOUR CHILDREN. You are twisting this sentence to mean something that it is not saying, i.e., that you must only list your conditional resident children applying with you and no other children besides that. This is not what the USCIS are saying here.

I would agree, it seem's Haole's unique situation added to the adjudicator's confusion, and may list children who are US Citizens because logically the form is asking for 'all children' without issue, section 5 is really to list "conditional resident children applying with you in order to have their conditional basis removed" I believe we are quite safe leaving the section blank, since none of our kids are filing to remove conditional status.

Bad USCIS form, combined with a slow adjudicator, and seems putting kids not filing to remove conditions is most likely to lead to trouble.

I think your interpretation of the form and its instructions are plain wrong. Why would they say on the form, "List all your children", then, in the instructions, remind you to "make sure to include any conditional resident children applying with you" when, according to you and Haole, what they really mean is to ONLY list conditional resident children applying with you and no others? Why would they have a column on Part 5 which says, "A# (if any)" if they only intend conditional resident children to be list because no conditional resident child would ever not have an A#?

Your interpretation of the form just does not make sense. I think you are making a mistake by excluding your children from Part 5.

Thanks for answering my questions.

Yeah that's probably where the problem started. My daughter acquired her US citizenship thru me adopting her. Yes I put her A# and also put US citizen under immigration status.

Yes, I would say this right here is why the USCIS goofed up. I'm sure it looked odd with your daughter listed in Part 5 with an A# and and immigration status of 'US Citizen', plus a foreign birth certificate. Did she have a Naturalization certificate from when she received citizenship? Did you include that with your petition?

At the same time instructions state :

In Part 5 of the form, please make sure to include any conditional resident children applying with you in order to have their conditional basis removed, or they may file separately. Please remember to provide their A-number.

Doesn't say anything about listing kids that are US citizens.

It doesn't say anything about not listing them either. In fact, the language used by the USCIS on the I-751 and on the instructions is inclusive -- Part 5 on the form says "List all your children", and the instructions say to "make sure to include any conditional resident children". The word "include" in this context indicates that the conditional resident children you list may not be the only immigration category of all the children listed in Part 5. Remember: "US Citizen" is an 'immigration category', even for naturally-born citizens.

The form and instructions need to be coordinated a bit better.

I heartily could not agree more! It's confusing indeed.

If I had to do it again I wouldn't put any US citizen children in Part 5.

To me if they wanted to know about the kids in the form they'd be asking for age and other info also.

Not necessarily. I think you did the right thing, but, if you had to do it over again, I would recommend adding an attachment to Part 5 of your I-751 explaining explicitly your daughter's status and how she came to be a US Citizen, and not just putting it in the cover letter. The cover letter really doesn't mean anything in relation to your petition. If you really want to explain something regarding the details of your case, add it as an attachment to your petition, and sign and date it. This is per the USCIS General Tips on Assembling Applications for Mailing:

"If you believe your situation to be unique, explain it fully in an attachment to the packet, not as a cover letter."

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but I really do think you are giving people on these forums bad advice on this matter.

I suggest you check out part 5. Where is a place to designate your child is a US citizen? A US citizen doesn't have any immigration status.

They are a US Citizen, which is what you're supposed to write in the "Immigration Status" column. Look, if Part 5 of the I-751 was not designed to hold a list of both US Citizen children and conditional resident children, why do they have "A# (if any)" as one of the columns? Your interpretation of the nature of Part 5 of the I-751 just does not make sense to me in light of how that part of the form has been designed, its wording, and the wording of the relevant section of the instructional document.

You still have not answered my question regarding your daughter, and how she acquired US citizen status. Was she a foreign-born child who gained citizenship when you adopted her? Did she have an A#? Did you write her A# in the A# column in Part 5 of the I-751?

You make out in your posts that your daughter was a natural-born US citizen, but that is unclear.

Can you please clarify these points?