davybrit

February 15, 2013

Wrong question.

Here's the right one: name any reason why you would not allow your son to have a passport of his country, identify himself as a citizen of his country when traveling to it, and instead, expect him to take care of this himself once he is old enough to legally escape your fangs?

Phrased differently: why would you have your son play the American tourist when visiting his country of citizenship, instead of entering the United Kingdom as a U.K. citizen?

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I just wanted advice, why are you making it personal?

Did I at any point say I was denying my son a UK passport because I simply didn't want him to get one? I want him to have one and as I specifically stated in my last post, we will probably get him one within the year. My son has not met any of my family yet except my dad. The only reason we can afford to go is because of our tax refund and we are going to be on a very tight budget when we are there. We want to get there as soon as we possibly can.

Simply put, time and money would not allow us to apply for two new passports right now. If we legally had to, we probably would have had to put off the trip for several months, maybe a year due to financial restraints.

He will definitely have one by the time we travel to the UK again. I am extremely proud that he is a British citizen and would never willingly deny him any rights that come with it.

February 13, 2013

This is a fallacy. Your son ALREADY is a British Citizen. He was afforded British and US citizenship from the moment he was born. Getting proof of it from the US/British authorities just acts as documentation that he was a British citizen when he was born.

The British authorities, unlike the US, don't require their citizens/subjects to enter and leave on British travel documents, so this is a non-issue in your case. However, the claim that your son is not yet a British citizen is untrue; you just haven't yet gotten the documentation for it.

For example, if I have an Austrian parent (assuming Austria's nationality law is such that direct decedents from at least one parent confer citizenship), and I don't actually tell Austria that I was even born until I'm 30 years old, that isn't "acquiring" Austrian citizenship. The Austrians will register my birth, and my effective date of citizenship acquisition will be my birthday.

True, this is something I discovered after digging a little deeper. We will probably get my son his British passport within the year.

February 13, 2013

Thank you very much. I feel much better now. :thumbs:

February 12, 2013

Personally I would apply for a passport for your child while you're in the UK. It's half the price of applying from here (well my adult one is, maybe that's different) and should be much simpler. Look into the process so you're prepared for it but that's personally what I would do.

How would I apply for a passport for him in while in the UK if I'm going to have trouble getting him in the UK without one in the first place? Anyway, we don't plan on being there long enough to apply while there.

We're hoping to go as soon as possible so having to wait for two passports is something I really don't want to do, (but if we have to I guess there's no choice).

February 12, 2013

That assumes that the UK allows its citizens to enter using a foreign passport. I am not sure about the UK rules, but not all countries allow this (e.g. U.S. does not).

We just assumed our son would be considered a US citizen. The US ruling is that if a person has ANY claim to being a US citizen (e.g. one parent is a US citizen) no matter where they were born or where they live, they have to have a US passport. So since my son has CLAIM to being a UK citizen, even though he isn't, does the same rule apply?

We have no intention of living in the UK anytime soon, so for all intense and purposes, my son is a US citizen.

We thought if once we got to the UK and went through immigration, if I went through the line for UK citizens and my wife and son went through the line for non UK/EU citizens, how would they even know the father (me) is British.

We just don't want there to be problems when we get to the UK, but we also don't want to shell out the $134, plus take the extra time needed to get a UK passport if it's not necessary

February 12, 2013

My wife is a US citizen and I am a British citizen and a permanent US resident. We have a son who was born here in the US.

We just discovered that had he been born in the UK and we were living there, he would need both a US and a UK passport to visit the US.

We want to visit the UK soon as he hasn't met most of my family yet. We will be applying for US passport for him, but does he need a UK passport too? We'll only be there for about two weeks.

Any help would be appreciated.

And sorry if this is posted in the wrong forum. Please move it if it should be somewhere else.

February 4, 2013

Received my green card on Saturday. So happy it's all over. Good luck to all who are still waiting.

California Service Center (49 applicants, 34 approved 69%)

VJName...........Date of I-751......NOA1 Date......Biometrics......Approved....GC Received

GWDENTON...........04/25/12.........05/01/12.......06/01/12........11/20/12....11/29/12...

CBRNINER...........04/30/12.........05/02/12.......06/14/12........12/05/12....12/10/12...

RIRO...............05/01/12.........05/03/12.......06/13/12........12/31/12....01/09/13...(RFE: 12/07, Responded: 12/18)

SASSYANDSWOOP......05/01/12.........05/03/12.......07/10/12........--/--/12....--/--/12...(Rescheduled twice then did a walk-in before 3rd)

INDOMEX............05/01/12.........05/03/12.......07/03/12........12/03/12....12/11/12...(Early Bio 6/22)

KIRITO.............05/02/12.........05/11/12.......06/01/12........11/21/12....11/29/12...

NOTH...............05/02/12.........05/03/12.......06/06/12........11/21/12....11/29/12...

SUMER..............05/02/12.........05/04/12.......06/11/12........12/04/12....--/--/12...

EXPARROT...........05/02/12.........--/--/12.......06/07/12........11/23/12....--/--/12...(Never rcvd NOA; passport stamped at the local field office)

CHRISSEN...........05/03/12.........05/07/12.......06/01/12........11/05/12....11/13/12...

BWOO...............05/04/12.........05/18/12.......06/15/12........12/12/12....12/20/12...

JC79...............05/07/12.........05/09/12.......06/18/12........11/29/12....12/06/12...

APRIL082010........05/07/12.........05/09/12.......06/08/12........12/05/12....12/10/12...

STR8UPG............05/08/12.........05/09/12.......07/03/12........12/19/12....12/24/12...

AIE................05/09/12.........??/??/12.......??/??/12........??/??/12....12/19/12...

CAPPUCCINO BOY.....05/10/12.........05/14/12.......06/19/12........12/17/12....12/24/12...

DAVE-N-OKSANA......05/11/12.........05/16/12.......07/05/12........01/25/13....--/--/13...(Early Bio 06/15)(RFE received 12/10, responded 01/10)

ZYDRUNE............05/11/12.........05/14/12.......07/18/12........12/06/12....12/13/12...(Never rcvd NOA, requested resend, new NOA - blank Receipt Date / 5/14 is delivered date)

RONGKO.............05/12/12.........05/16/12.......07/16/12........12/04/12....12/08/12...

BINOW..............05/14/12.........--/--/12.......06/27/12........--/--/12....--/--/12...(Never received NOA and I-551 stamped @infopass 06/14)(Early Bio 06/14 @infopass)

SQUIRRELY..........05/14/12.........05/16/12.......06/28/12........12/20/12....--/--/12...

ZENAXE.............05/14/12.........05/16/12.......06/28/12........12/20/12....12/27/12...(Never received NOA and I-551 stamped @infopass 06/18)(Replacement NOA received 07/02)

VANESSA1...........05/14/12.........05/16/12.......06/28/12........12/20/12....--/--/12...

SUMMERBUG23........05/14/12.........05/15/12.......07/20/12........11/30/12....12/07/12...

KATAANDFREDDY......05/15/12.........05/16/12.......06/29/12........--/--/13....--/--/13...(Never rcvd NOA; I-551 stamped @infopass 06/13)(EB 06/13 @infopass)(Rec'd NOA1 6/22/12)

JRESS..............05/15/12.........--/--/12.......07/23/12........12/06/12....--/--/13...(Never received NOA and I-551 stamped @infopass 06/22)

POLARBEAR2010......05/16/12.........06/07/12.......07/02/12........--/--/13....--/--/13...(RFE recieved 01/07)

INTRICACIES........05/16/12.........--/--/12.......--/--/12........--/--/12....--/--/13...(No NOA yet)

KIRAVOGUE..........05/17/12.........06/07/12.......06/26/12........12/21/12....12/31/12...

AYOB...............05/17/12.........--/--/12.......07/03/12........--/--/13....--/--/13...(RFE received 01/26)

RITO...............05/18/12.........05/21/12.......06/28/12........01/02/13....01/09/12...(Late Bio 07/02)

JOHN AND CAMIE.....05/18/12.........05/21/12.......07/16/12........--/--/13....--/--/13...(RFE received 01/18)

MKHANSEN...........05/18/12.........05/21/12.......06/27/12........--/--/13....--/--/13...(Early Bio 06/21)(RFE received 01/28)

MOONSTAR9913.......05/18/12.........--/--/12.......07/05/12........01/03/13....01/09/13...(No NOA yet)

DRISS&ALICIA.......05/19/12.........05/21/12.......06/21/12........12/20/12....01/07/13...

YUENASHLEYSL.......05/19/12.........05/21/12.......07/31/12........--/--/12....--/--/13...

CORSAIR............05/21/12.........05/23/12.......07/26/12........12/04/12....--/--/13...

PAULMHERRIE........05/22/12.........05/29/12.......07/23/12........01/15/13....01/25/13...

BENANA.............05/22/12.........05/23/12.......07/12/12........12/28/12....01/07/13...

LA&MA..............05/22/12.........05/29/12.......07/23/12........12/19/12....12/24/12...

JUNKO&MARTIN.......05/22/12.........05/23/12.......07/11/12........12/10/12....12/17/12...

ASHENFLOWERS.......05/23/12.........05/24/12.......07/09/12........--/--/13....--/--/13...(RFE received 01/07)

MISSUSM09..........05/24/12.........05/29/12.......07/26/12........12/07/12....12/14/12...

NATEDOG_COOL.......05/24/12.........05/29/12.......07/11/12........--/--/12....--/--/13...

MAOPON.............05/25/12.........05/31/12.......07/31/12........--/--/12....--/--/13...

VEGABOND...........05/26/12.........05/31/12.......07/12/12........--/--/13....--/--/13...

*****S*D*****......05/29/12.........05/30/12.......07/12/12........--/--/13....--/--/13...

DAVYBRIT...........05/29/12.........05/31/12.......07/11/12........01/26/13....02/02/13...

IRMA24.............05/29/12.........05/31/12.......07/13/12........--/--/12....--/--/13...

Vermont Service Center (39 applicants, 11 approved 28%)

VJName...........Date of I-751......NOA1 Date......Biometrics......Approved....GC Received

ENGINEER21.........04/28/12.........05/01/12.......06/07/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

COOL1..............04/30/12.........05/03/12.......06/15/12........01/16/13....01/26/13...

GINMARTINI.........05/02/12.........05/04/12.......06/06/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

MERKIE.............05/02/12.........05/04/12.......06/08/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

♥JOHN♥JULIE♥.......05/02/12.........05/07/12.......07/10/12........01/25/13....01/31/13...

ASDIC..............05/03/12.........05/07/12.......06/19/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

WARREN AND CINDY...05/07/12.........05/09/12.......06/15/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...(Early Bio 06/14)

BRUCEJEN...........05/07/12.........--/--/12.......06/28/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

LEO22..............05/08/12.........05/11/12.......06/15/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...(Early Bio 06/01)

USAFOREVER.........05/08/12.........--/--/12.......07/11/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...(Never rcvd NOA, I-551 stamp @infopass 06/22)(EB @infopass 06/22)(NOA rcvd 06/25 dated 06/21)

FERMAY.............05/09/12.........05/11/12.......06/14/12........01/25/13....02/01/13...

MRS.BELL...........05/09/12.........05/09/12.......XX/XX/XX........07/27/12....08/02/12...(Applied from stationed overseas)

FEISAL.............05/11/12.........05/17/12.......06/25/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

MZMO1102...........05/11/12.........05/15/12.......06/27/12........01/23/13....01/28/13...

CAMILA GUERRERO....05/12/12.........05/15/12.......06/13/12........01/10/13....01/17/13...

HISGIRL............05/12/12.........05/??/12.......--/--/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

CAROLINA+JAMES.....05/12/12.........05/15/12.......06/14/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...(Early Bio 06/06)

MITALJINAL.........05/15/12.........05/18/12.......06/27/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

CHARANDIVAN........05/15/12.........05/21/12.......07/16/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

CUNEYT&CARLA.......05/16/12.........05/17/12.......06/19/12........01/31/13....--/--/13...

JESUS1982..........05/16/12.........05/22/12.......07/11/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

THONGD4ME..........05/16/12.........05/22/12.......06/27/12........01/10/13....01/16/13...

JESSAC89...........05/16/12.........05/21/12.......--/--/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

NELSON007..........05/16/12.........05/21/12.......07/16/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

ROSCO_QA...........05/17/12.........05/22/12.......07/10/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

CARIB_BOY..........05/17/12.........05/21/12.......07/16/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

PICCOLACARINA......05/17/12.........05/21/12.......07/10/12........01/24/13....--/--/13...

CW+TO..............05/17/12.........05/23/12.......07/16/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

EPIFREAK...........05/18/12.........05/22/12.......07/11/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

WIZANDDOROTHY......05/19/12.........??/??/12.......07/27/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

HAPPYKNAPPY........05/21/12.........05/23/12.......07/10/12........01/25/13....01/31/13...(Early Bio 06/29)

BRENDULICHKA.......05/21/12.........05/24/12.......07/18/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

GIGGLES............05/22/12.........--/--/12.......XX/XX/XX........07/31/12....08/09/12...(Applied from stationed overseas)(Never received NOA?)

HONEYBEME..........05/22/12.........05/24/12.......07/17/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

HARPA TIMSAH.......05/22/12.........05/24/12.......07/20/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

SPONGE.............05/23/12.........05/29/12.......07/17/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...(RFE: ??/13)?

KARENELIZABETH.....05/23/12.........05/29/12.......--/--/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

HASAN123...........05/24/12.........05/29/12.......07/20/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

ICEPECK............05/30/12.........06/01/12.......07/11/12........--/--/--....--/--/13...

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February 1, 2013

And of course, the day after I make a comment about not hearing anything, I get my letter stating I've been approved, exactly 8 months after they received it. Just waiting for the card now. :dance:

Updating myself below.

California Service Center (49 applicants, 33 approved 67%)