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Have you ever watched the comedy film "Liar Liar" starring by Jim Carrey?

Hi!

No i never watched it.

what about that movie?

Congratulations!

My husband called Dr. Zirari's office and her receptionist gave a quote of $4,750 DH. That seems really high. But thank you for your review.

The total payment for me was 1700 MAD - 196 USD.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cheapest

Didn't wanted to know what the word means.. what i wanted to know was what did you mean when you said SHE IS the cheapest.

Hi Zagray,

Sorry to hear about your denial. I don't know you but I feel for all of us going through this difficult process. Now I cannot give any real advice as I am so new to this process. But I can tell you just from my experience that I have learned so much from asking questions and just reading others' questions and responses. My fiance are both on here and often one of us will miss something the other one reads. We discuss these boards regularly. I tell you this because even though you feel it is best for your fiance to not be on here - and that is of course totally up to the two of you - I would highly recommend that she think about coming here. Because - and this is just my personal opinion - when it comes right down to it I know that I as the USC am the one who has to file and I want to be as prepared as possible. This is not an easy process. Far from it. And I need every bit of knowledge that I can get. And sometimes just reading other peoples' posts gives me ideas I had not thought of before. I know that some posts can seem hurtful. I do not know other peoples' intentions of course but I feel like that even the harsh comments can be helpful. They have been there and are giving their perspective. So I would suggest that she come here - not necessarily to make friends although that is nice - but to benefit from the experience of those who have "been there done that". At least that is how I see it.

Again I do not know you and I am wishing only the best for you and for everyone here. Just wanted to give my opinion for what it is worth. And to wish you the very best.

Your post is awesome and encouraging

Thank you so much.

She would need to contact the office that processed the petition. Click on the map to get contact info for specific offices:

"Find your office by state"

https://egov.uscis.gov/crisgwi/go?action=offices.type&OfficeLocator.office_type=SC

Thank you so much.

I recommend Dr. Ambari. My husband and I had a lot of contact with him throughout our process. I found him to be helpful and professional. Wouldn't recommend the female doctor (Khadija? can't remember her name). I think she's the cheapest, but I still wouldn't recommend her.

What do you mean by she's the cheapest?

For me Dr. Khadija Zirari was the best even my arm got swollen and that's normal thing hahaha and the shots of vaccines didn't hurt me.

Your fiance can try to find the reason with a FOIA request and ask for consular notes.

Ok tell me how please?

Zagray -

Although the consulates use the "refusal" terminology, it's essentially the same thing as a "denial" - the consulate is "refusing" to issue you a visa, and sending your case back to USCIS, where it will be intentionally ignored and allowed to expire.

Linds&Youssef really said it very well in your other thread:

So the consulate either found something in your background that makes you ineligible, or they don't believe your relationship is genuine. If you have no crimes of moral turpitude on your record, you have no connections to a terror organization, and you did not misrepresent any information on your application (such as previous marriages, divorces, children, etc.) then you can deduce that the refusal is because they suspect your relationship is fraudulent.

Only you (and your fiancee) can really answer the question "WHY specifically does the consulate think your relationship is fraudulent ?" The answer may not be because of one single red flag, but a pattern of multiple red flags. The questions you were asked in the interview may provide your best clues as to what specifically the consulate found to be suspicious.

Course of action:

#1. Your fiancee should be on the phone and on email with the consulate every day and several times a day, persistently and urgently asking to speak to a consular official about the refusal and requesting the consulate hold the case and give you the chance to provide additional information and evidence.

#2. If it's too late for #1 (if the consulate claims the petition has already been shipped out in the diplomatic pouch, headed back to the USCIS) and you both wish to continue trying, then your fiancee should prepare to file again (including paying all the fees again.) USCIS will likely not send any notice to her about the returned petition, but simply allow it to expire. Your fiancee can formally request to cancel that petition before refiling a new petition.

#3. You can refile with another K-1, or get married first and file a CR-1. Your second petition should be front-loaded with lots of evidence, including everything you sent before, as well as additional and newer stuff - it should have items showing the progress of an ongoing relationship from beginning until the present. You both should write statements addressing the previous denial, and each (calmly) explain in your own words why your relationship is real. Note that marriage can provide additional opportunities to gather more compelling evidence of legitimate ongoing relationship, such as joint financial accounts, joint-owned property, joint insurance policies, etc. that are not usually available to engaged couples. You don't have to refile immediately; it might help to pause for a bit. You could spend more time together in person, maybe even have several visits, before filing again.

#4. You MUST figure out why the consulate was not convinced of your sincerity, because you will have to address that in any future petitions or you will likely be denied again on the same basis. Again - only YOU know the answer to this. Look over your story as it was presented to the consulate, review your evidence, and think very carefully about each question that you were asked in the interview, and how you answered. Find the red flags and reflect on why the consulate might find something suspicious.

#5. Refiling will be a lengthy and very stressful process, and your success will depend on how well you address the weaknesses of your first petition/evidence/interview. I realize that you are adamantly against the idea of your fiancee joining VJ, but this attitude is actually harming your chances of success.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

FOIA = Freedom Of Information Act - it's a formal way of requesting privileged information from a government agency.

Ok so can you give me the phone number and adress email of USCIS so the petitioner can contact them?

Thank you so much for this post.

I will restate again there will be no review once your case arrives back to USCIS for a k-1 visa, it is essentially a closed case. Your fiance can try to find the reason with a FOIA request and ask for consular notes. You need to start over with another petition , good luck.

Ok i got it

SO what do you mean by FOIA??

This process, with not only the paperwork but the physiological angles is too complicated to understand for the beneficiary alone. I see this and think they only have a chance if the petitioner would educate herself first hand of CASA. How can it be explained about the "soft denial" phantom noir/noid...... when it is hard for a USC (that went through it personally) to understand what is actually done after the K1 goes back? It is different from what is supposedly to be done. and what is occurring. Just my observation if it helps. As posted before, Z have your fiance stay on USCIS, dont wait for a notice.

So you mean i don't have to believe what the CO told me on phone when he said they will let fiancee knows and they will tell her the reason why they sent my case back to USCIS.

and if i don't have to wait for a notice. what else fiancee and i can do in your opinion?

Tell me wha is too complicated to understand for the beneficiary alone?

So a legit question Zagray. Regardless of why anyone here thinks you were denied... out of the reasons it could be... Why do you think you have been denied?

Because they sent back my case to USCIS and most of VJ members here say it's denial letter when it's refusal letter. i mean the ones who know better than me that have gone through these could't compare from refusal and denial letter, or do i have to ignore what they say?

I think someone told me the right answer that said they will deny it or they will reaffirm it.

So what do you think palm3gurl??

Some people have experience and evidence and answer honestly with what truly probably ARE the reasons that you were denied. I know you probably don't like the reasons. But people are being honest, giving it to you nichan, direct, a khoya. Trust me-- it's not just you, many people on this forum answer in a way that might seem harsh to people who come.

Because it IS harsh. The whole thing is harsh. It's harsh that the consulate gets to decide our fate. It's harsh that there are scammers who destroy lives to get "the American dream." It's harsh that we spend thousands of dollars and months waiting because of boundaries that were drawn by people who have power, years ago.

If you look back, you'll see that you aren't the only person who has felt "attacked." But you make it worse for yourself when you:

- Refuse to "let" or "encourage" or whatever-- your fiancee to come. I know at this point, it's protection for her and you... but people will be much kinder and softer if she's here too. It might not be fair, but it's for a reason, and a good reason!

- Listen when people tell you things are inappropriate to us. Again-- it's not like it's just you! If ANYONE made some of the comments you made, people would say the exact same thing.

- Don't be so sensitive! If you love your fiancee and are true to her and faithful and treat her well, why do you really care what other people here say?

I really like this post. i can tell i can see myself from another view after reading these.

thank you and sorry if i say something bad.

You're right i don't have to care of what others say here. I will try to ignore things that i don't like to read next times. and move on to next levels of my journey.

Good night.

o k !

Good night Darnell, Please don't get offended.

You're one of my favorite member.

It's late here i see you tomorrow.

Good night everyone.

I don't think it is boredom - I think some people sometimes get a little judgmental. But that is what the moderators are for... look, they did their job well.

Now let's move on. No laughing, pointing out that posters mistake - just move on to the real topic and get the help that is very much needed at this point from the sounds of it.

Some Vj members worn me out today by thinking what to write to them.. so much people come and go by putting their post.. and it's late here.. I don't stay up late, i'm very tired and sleepy now.

Thank you Medroni

We'll continue later tomorrow.

Good night.

and good night everybody.

Have you considering going to another immigration website, where they will tell you what you want to hear. You asked, we told, you don't like, move else where......it's that easy zagray.

CO did not believe your relationship was real

Fiancé only visited once right? Not enough visits to prove your relationship is valid

You said your English is not good, CO probably noticed that, and communication is very important, instead of charades online.

Age difference....28 you, 45 her

Your online activity in chat rooms the last five years probably screwed you royally, and all your deleted chats they retrieved.

You received a 221g right off the bat before the interview, this is not a good sign unfortunately. You were busted before you even entered the building.

So why be mad....at all this, it's the truth, you asked, we told.

Now pull your big boy pants up and move on.

Everything you have written here i was the one who wrote it all to you to help and make me understand things and not to bully me with all these stuff ok? and if you didn't like my behavior, or whatever else you can stop respond or check the topic i write here.. i'm not forcing you to type.. so don't bother yourself anymore. ok?

Isn't this what you are asking in these questions though? Don't you want people to explain why you might be denied so you can fix it in the future?

I actually had a conversation about you with my husband a few weeks ago. He sort of rolled his eyes at the whole situation, but put it into context: if you haven't had experience in America or with a lot of Americans, you might think that since we are so "open" with sexuality and other things (as a stereotype) that comments like the one you made about the CO must be appropriate and okay. It might be confusing that in the media, we are presented one way, but then when you think it's okay to say something and everyone jumps on you, it doesn't make sense.

But why not sincerely apologize then? Would you act the way you do here at home with your mother, sisters, aunts, uncles, father, brothers? Again, it's a question of respect. You ask questions and then you don't like the answers so you get defensive.

And you keep your fiancee from coming, which is just a huge red flag. Huge.

why he rolled his eyes? it depends what you told him and you don't know me at all, you have judged me like anybody else through what i wrote here only.

You will be lucky if it is only 8 weeks. It will more likely be 120-180 days. good luck

Thank you for wishing me luck.

I hope i'm lucky guy.

Isn't this what you are asking in these questions though? Don't you want people to explain why you might be denied so you can fix it in the future?

Some people here guess it in a bad way.

This is not helpful either remember. Let's keep it helpful and the topic will continue - hopefully to help you.

Don't hurt your chances.

I agree but i don't understand why some people love to comes out of the subject.. i think they get bored when we talk about serious..

Zagray, you ask why you might be denied. Then, when people answer your question (even though you have asked it before and had similar answers, and there's a post dedicated to this on almost every page of this forum), you get all butthurt, sensitive, and defensive.

I think you are trolling, and I think that we should probably just stop responding and feeding your crazy ploys for attention. You've proven you have no respect for the people on this forum, no respect for the CO...

Think whatever you want.. I don't need to know what you think.. I had already enough.

I don't like people who help and then speak bad about fiancee who never met her or knew her.. also i don't like the ones who keep guessing why i got denied.. that's my own problem and fiancee and i will figure out later when the consulate of usa receive my case.

And please let the pass rest in peace.. i don't like people who bring it everytime i write a new topic.

You have to stop responding me of you feel like it but don't tell everybody what they have to do.

Anyways, most of them are against me but i really respect who respect me and talk limitely when i need only help not other mocking words.

I have a question for you zagray....Why are you here? You said before you don't have a religion nor pray, so why speak of the Prophet Mohammed if you have no religion?

never said that.

You copy/pasted AGAIN? Aren't you ashamed of yourself? Can you think for yourself?

I also recall your thread titled something like "older women are the hottest," a declaration to cougar-love.

You and your copy/paste are PHONY.

Also, you don't speak English, you admitted that you and your fiance just communicate on chat. I bet you copy/paste your declarations of love. That is another reason for denial.

In short, you were denied because this relationship and so many other things are FAKE.

just keep assuming things you too.

No kidding. Comparing this "relationship" to the Prophet and his wife is a sacrilege IMO and I'm not even religious.

DOn't ever compare someone with prophets.. that's not good at all.

i wanted to tell people that it's not about society for me it's about what my religion said.. I don't listen to none of you or whoever who believe i'm doing something wrong.. Only god knows my intention and the situation i'm in and what we're going though with fiancee.

By talking ####### do you mean telling you that you are the problem in this situation? If so, I guess I'm talking #######. Report me. I don't need any immigration help as my husband has been in this country for 5 yrs, has had his permanent residency for over 4. Mostly due to the fact that both of us took the visa and our life together seriously and my husband wasn't dumb enough to go to public forums to talk about peeping out COs' breasts and post perverted, amateur "poetry". So report me, I'm not around here enough to notice or give a #######, frankly. PS: no amount of "help" from ppl on this forum is going to get you your visa until you and your "fiancee" help yourselves and take life seriously.

I'm so sorry.

you left out those of us who know enough to realize that the likes of you and your fiancee have NOTHING to do with two of the greatest individuals that have ever walked this earth. and those of us who want to throw up at the very thought of you dragging their names into any discussion of your hot mess of a "relationship". just don't. go there. at all.

Please don't tell me where to go and where not.

I was trying to remind some people that i'm not doing anything wrong. and that i don't care about this weird society or new way of thinking of things are not wrong.

why you called it YOUR HOT MESS OF A RELATIONSHIP? what do you want from me here??

YEP I GOT YOU AGAIN.

I remembered the song of THE KINKS - You really got me girl. hahaha.

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hahaha!