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Hi all, I've received three e-mails from USCIS, the first one was stating initial review, the second and third ones were stating Post Decision Activity. What is confusing about them that, the second one is stating:

"On April 15, 2013, we shipped this approved or re-affirmed case to the Department of State for visa processing. For more information, please contact them directly".

While the third one is stating:

"On April 15, 2013, a USCIS office received this case from the State Department with a request that we review it. We will notify you when we complete our review, or if we need something from you. If you move while this case is pending, please use our Change of Address online tool to update your case with your new address or call our customer service center at 1-800-375-5283.

For approved applications/petitions, post-decision activity may include USCIS sending notification of the approved application/petition to the National Visa Center or the Department of State. For denied applications/petitions, post-decision activity may include the processing of an appeal and/or motions to reopen or reconsider and revocations".

I've received a 221g recommendation of revocation in Feb after the interview, so, can anyone explain to me what those e-mails suppose to mean, and does the second one means they've affirmed it, then they've changed there minds about it? The time between the two e-mails is 15 minutes

Please any help will be appreciated

Hi all

The reply from the embassy is stating that we can apply for a waiver, although they said that they've already returned the application to the USCIS. What do you think we should do? Will it help? How to write it? Should we send it to USCIS or the embassy? What is it about? What to do in general?

As I told you before, you have HUGE red flags and the only way to overcome them is to spend time together with your wife, lots of time. My husband and I had many red flags, we married first visit, have big age difference, difference in religion, I am divorced with children, the list goes on....but the difference is we spent a lot of time together after marriage, I traveled to Jordan 5 times in 8 months, all of them extended stays, and I attended the interview with my husband. We were able to overcome all of our red flags and my husband was issued his visa. You have not seen your wife in almost 2 years, that is huge, especially since you have only met once and it was when you married. We missed each other and found a way to be together, even with the pending I-130 and CR1 and my husband hopefully coming to the US soon, it didn't matter, it was important to us to be together as much as possible. I didn't find visa journey until after our NOA2, I wasn't even aware we had red flags, it wasn't as though we were just trying to overcome them for immigration, we wanted to spend every minute we possibly could together. It will be an uphill battle for you, but not an impossible one. Spend time with your wife, and not just a few days, have her meet your family, family acceptance is very important through Amman and document everything. It will be quite some time before you hear from USCIS, so you will have some time to gather more evidence. Good luck!!!

Thank you for your reply and you're personal help as well, we really both appreciate it. I have been here since a very long time, but never seen the list of red flags, I didn't make any research about anything until after we already applied by a couple of months, I know its partially our faults, but we believe that it shouldn't be that much of stress since we are already married, and it's there fault that we are not together!! I know it mean nothing, but I really want to share my opinion about that, I know there are fake relationships and so on, but everyone has his own reasons for everything he did, for us, it was that we loved each other then went through the process, our intentions were all good, and we didn't expect in the least that anything wrong would happened to us

About spending time together, we have two problems here:

1- Her boss didn't and won't accept to give her more than than a week every 6 months, we already tried, but failed!!

2- it's really costly to travel that much, we are really not rich, and if I weren't a student now, I might help as well, but this is not the case. but we will both try our best to make it happened as often as possible!!

Indeed it will be a huge battle with all of those red flags, but there not that much that can be done about some of the stuff, but we will try our best, if I were looking for the VISA as they claimed, I would've been looking for a rich woman at least, to spare myself a lot of the stress!! But our intentions were really genuine to be together, not anything else, and I promise you I tried to bring her to live with me rather than being apart, but she can't due to several reasons that I prefer to remain private. Anyway, according to all what I'm reading up to now, I guess we are doomed, but we will try our best!!

My husband and I were also denied at the US Embassy in Malaysia for the same thing. Although we had affadavits, 300 pics of us together, phone bills and chat logs. I have made five trips to Malaysia...

I'm really sorry about that as well, please share with me and all of us anything you might do to defy this, I will do the same, and it will help a lot of people that might fall in the same category

This.

In addition, about your red flags...how exactly does Iraq play into this? Did you study there at some point or are you studying about Iraq? In general, this shouldn't cause a CO to "flip"...

You mentioned needing to marry immediately due to the potential of adultery, etc. None of her family came for the visit or acted as a guardian that could have mitigated this issue for at least part of the trip? Is your wife a recent convert or a born/raised Muslim who happened to have a prior divorce? These type of small details really do help paint the complete picture as to why a CO would lean one way or the other...

Other than getting the new trip set up, you will want your wife to be collecting any additional proofs/evidence for when the NOIR/NOID comes in. It's usually a tight deadline to get the packet turned around. Also, have your wife get release forms into her Senators and Congressperson so she has their immigration liaisons available to do research on the case if needed [an example, you know the case is back at the service center but you haven't received the NOIR/NOID yet - the liaison can call in for a status update].

Best of luck!

I was studying in Iraq during the war, and yes it flipped the one who collected the documents from me and the CO himself as well, he became aggressive, he was navigating my file, but he immediately stopped.

My wife is Christian, none of her family members are able to come over due to financial reasons, the ticket would cost 2000$ to KL or Bangkok (were we got married ) in the least.

We already contacted the congress man, but we didn't have any reply from him yet, but we will work on all of the necessary documents needed to make that happened.

The application didn't reach the USCIS yet, the embassy replied yesterday and stated that we have a weak/possible sham relationship, and the application had been sent to USCIS and we can contact them within a month.

I doubt I know how to do that, or know what to do about that? I've selected all the options according to what they are in the profile thing, so, I'm sorry about that!!

We already booked two tickets to Jordan now, since she had her Tax return now, and since I had been denied, so we have to meet again for sure, but we've sent the embassy an e-mail, and waiting for their reply to confirm if she had to travel to Jordan or to Malaysia to go to another interview if they've accepted that according to what some websites saying.

About the red flags and research, we weren't thinking about the entire VISA thing when we did that, I was even asking her so many times to come and live with me, but she couldn't do it because of her family and so on, and I promise you, if I knew anything about those red flags (which I couldn't find anywhere, we would've did something about it, about the marriage from the first time, as you know we are Muslims, so we can't commit adultery in anyway, shape or form, and that's why we got married!!

How much older is your wife then you are? 3 years

Has she been married before? yes

Has she petitioned anyone else before? no

Have you been petitioned by anyone else before? no

How many times has she visited you? 1 time

When was the last time she visited you? July/26th/2011

How many total days have you spent in person together? 40 days

How long have you been knowing each other? since 2008

Did you marry on the first visit? Yes

Does she have children? yes

Do you have children? no

Have you ever been married before? Nope

Do you have different religions? yes

Did she convert to Islam for you ? nope

I'm a PhD Student in Malaysia, so that's why I did the interview there, the interview went great, until he found that I was in IRAQ studying there, so his face flipped, nevertheless, the age difference is only 3 years between me and my wife, he didn't mention the religion, but his objection after that was on the way we met, and the marriage itself and the visiting ting as the following, our marriage took place in Thailand (since we can't get married in Malaysia due to the religion difference according to the Malaysian laws).

2- We met only once for 40 days, which was when we met for marriage, she never traveled before, and that was another objection for him, I told him that we didn't visit each other due to financial reason (Since I was a student, and she was a student as well, until later on, and that's the initial reason for the 8 months of us submitting the application itself, since she have to have income which is higher than the poverty line by 120%. We were going to meet again, but since we were convincing each other that we are about to get the VISA so soon, so there are no need (since the average time for the visa by our time was something like 8 months), so every now and then we would convince each other that that's it, its close now, we don't have that much of extra money, so we have to spare it for my travel for her over there (the average of our ticket used to be $1800 in the least.

3- Me sending her money, was another question to be raised, but I was telling him that she was trying to catch up, until she did finally (but he considered it as a paid VISA. and for the record she sent money when she had it when she started to catch up.

4- That no one attended our marriage from her side or my side and we didn't have a ceremony (the same financial reason apply here)

5- He didn't look at any of the documents of the bona fied of our relationship, he just asked for the ceremony and marriage pictures, which I didn't have any, since we were together alone there.

To add to all of that, we are 24/7 together online on Skype, even when she is at work now, and she is working now btw, and her income is higher than the poverty line.

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Hi all,

I didn't lie, I didn't falsify any document, our relationship is genuine, but the officer decided that, and of course he was interrupting me all the time, then he decided our marriage were sham and not genuine, although we provided phone bills, photos, money receipts, and affidavit of bona fied of marriage from my wife's mom, cousin, friend and herself, but the officer denied the VISA, and recommended it to be revoked, and sending it back to USCIS.

I've just read that nothing can defy that except proving an extreme hardship of a relationship, that includes having a kid, or causing death and so on, which all are not applicable to our case, so, my point here, is there any hope, is there anyway to over come that, anyone had succeeded in doing that? Or its a dead end already, and all what is being said is just to give some hope?

Thank you all

Thank you very much for your replies, I really appreciate it, and it really means a lot to us especially in those times, I've already asked my wife to contact you, but she will do that when she come back from work , this is the quote of our OF-194:

"Section 221(g) which prohibits the issuance of a visa to anyone whose application does not comply with the provisions of the immigrating and nationality Act or regulations issued pursuant thereto. The following remarks apply in your case:

Your case is administratively closed. Consular officers apply a “reasonable person standard” when evaluating the bona fides of claimed spousal, fiancé€, and other relationship (9 FAM 42.43 N2.2 (3)). These facts (above as ascertained by consular officers would convince a reasonable person that the claimed relationship is a sham entered into solely for immigration purpose and to evade immigration laws (or otherwise invalid). Therefore, pursuant to 9 FAM 41.81 N6.5, the reviewing officer has decided that the petition should be returned to the U.S. citizenship and immigration services (USCIS) with the recommendation that it be revoked. When USCIS receives the returned petition, they will contact the petitioner, who will have an opportunity to rebut consular findings concerning this case. If USCIS revokes the petition, beneficiary will become ineligible for a VISA under section 212 (a)(6)©(i) (or other appropriate section) of the act. If USCIS reaffirms the petition, the petition will be returned to post for further processing."

Thank you capri for your reply as well, I do believe that they should dedicate a branch in this website to mock an interview with people, since those officers are hunting you down for specific words, none of us normal people know how to talk like attornies, and may state facts as it is in a wrong way, that could've been said in another way, give the same meaning, but have a positive impression rather than a negative one, my problem in my interview that it went all fine, I've answered everything honestly, and answered all of his question, until he saw that I was in Iraq doing my Bachelor's degree,at this time, he became very aggressive, stopped listening to me, interrupted me on every word I said, then started to accuse me!!

Thank you for this hope, anyway, I found a new website posted by someone here in Visajourney, and you can check your status in it, however, the paper I was passed was a denial worksheet, but when I checked the website, its saying Administrative processing, at the same time they've return the passport back to me, so not sure what is this, is it something good, or bad, or its still under the same category of refusal, and had to be sent to USCIS and all of that stuff?

https://ceac.state.gov/CEACStatTracker/Status.aspx?eQs=o/iS8zDpeAKjMWCuebHqOw==

thank you very much

the visit won't be useless at all, I am glad you will get to see each other. It is tough when finances get in the way of being able to visit. The best thing you can do is just move on and prepare for the next step. I am truly sad for you both. Have fun next week, I really miss Jordan. If she can only get a week off, then you can explain that all when you get the chance. If you need anything you can contact me here, I would be glad to help if I can.

Thank you very much for your reply, and wish you all the happiness with your husband. I promise you that the officer was interrupting me all the time, so I don't know if I will be able to explain anything at all!! Like seriously, is this the proper way of doing it?!

Anyway, I'm really worried about the time we have to wait before we hear any new news, and is there really a real hope in this, or that it, its the end?

My husband is from Jordan as well, we met and married on our first visit, and had many other red flags. I am older than he is, we met on the internet, different religions. But, and this is a big but, after we were married, I visited him 4 times in 7 months, all extended visits, we missed each other and wanted to be together. My husband is now here in the US and we are happier than ever. You and your wife may know you a legitimate relationship, but the burden of proof is on you to show this to the CO. Marrying on the first visit, and having no subsequent visits in almost 2 years looks very suspicious to the consulate, you were married in June of 2011 and haven't seen each other since. What will happen now is your case will be sent back to USCIS with the intent to revoke or deny your petition, it will probably be a few months before you receive notice that they are reviewing your case, and you will have a chance to respond to that notice with more evidence of a bona fide marriage. You need to prepare for this and make sure you respond within the time given by USCIS. My recommendation is that you have your wife visit you, for an extended amount of time, you haven't seen each other in almost 2 years, face time is very important for both your marriage, and for USCIS, you married someone and you barely know her even after 2 years of marriage. I am sorry to hear of your denial, but you need to move on and get prepared for the next step, it will be an uphill battle. Best of luck. Keep us updated!!!

Thank you for your reply

But I have to tell you that she was a student, I'm still a PhD student in Malaysia, so we were having some financial difficulties to be able to see each other and visit each other, later on she started to work, and she started to be able to help herself financially at that point, anyway, we wanted to visit each other after that, but then we thought why to waste the money...we are closer to get our interview (we were believing we will get the approval for sure), however, we both agreed on seeing each other next week in Jordan, but she can't come over for more than a week, since she have only a one week vacation every 6 months, so not sure if that will be useless or what, but we have to see each other as well, but my point here that we can do nothing about the period , she already asked her boss for more vacation time (paid/unpaid), but her boss rejected it!!

yes I did show him the pictures, phone records, letters of bonafid of relationship from her mom, cousin and friends, but he didn't even look at them or barely did for some, but he emphasized on the fact that I was in Iraq, then he became aggressive , he didn't allow me to finish my answers, it was like if he made up his mind!!!

hi all

long story short, I was interviewed today, and the officer think that our relationship is a shame for the purpose of entering the US as an immigrant, his reasons was saying that:

"You've met your wife only one time since you got married, and she traveled around the world, to meet you for the first time, and you already got married?!?!"

then he asked me to explain, and I did explain to him that we were both students, and we already had financial difficulties, but he were not convinced, then he issued a refusal that recommending revoking the visa for the uscis. (9 FAM 41.81 N6.5), (FAM 41.81 N2.2(3)), and become ineligible for a visa under section 212(a)(6)©(i).

So please, what to do?

Hi all

I've received an e-mail finally stating my date for the interview, but what I don't know anything about now is what to do for the interview? What documents should I take with me to the interview? in general...what should I do?

If you have any link for any useful information please post it down, the interview will be in Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur)

Thank you in advance

P.S. My interview is for CR1, and the e-mail is stating that I'e submitted all the necessary documents, including the original ones

Hi all

I found today that I have to pay $165 after the interview for the green card, although I've already paid the $230 for the VISA processing earlier and they are saying that my VISA is complete now, but waiting for the interview date, however, here is the quote from the NVC website stating that I have to pay those fees, any idea what are they, and do I have to pay them or what exactly should I do?

Quote:

"Must I pay a fee after my visa issued?

Yes, if you receive your immigrant visa on or after February 1, 2013. You must pay the USCIS Immigrant Fee to the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) after you receive your immigrant visa and before you travel to the United States. (IR-3, IH-3, IR-4, IH-4, SB-1, SI-1, SI-2, SI-3, SQ-1, SQ-2, SQ-3, K-1, K-2, K-3, and K-4 visa holders will not pay the fee.) Select USCIS Immigrant Fee on the USCIS website for more information."

Any help will be highly appreciated, thanks in advance

Thank you

Hi all

I've received an e-mail for I-601A, but I've never been an unlawful resident in USA before, so please, can anyone help me in what to do? I didn't find any useful information in what to do if this don't apply to me, and why they've sent it to me in the first place..

Quote of the file attached to the e-mail:

"This notice applies to you if you are currently in the United States, are or have been unlawfully present and plan to apply for an immigrant visa at a U.S. embassy or consulate abroad. Beginning March 4, 2013, certain immediate relatives of U.S. citizens may apply for a provisional waiver of inadmissibility due to unlawful presence before leaving the United States. For more information, please visit immigrantvisas.state.gov. Before filing Form I-601A, YOU MUST NOTIFY THE NATIONAL VISA CENTER (NVC) by emailing NVCI601A@state.gov. Failure to notify the NVC that you plan to file Form I-601A will delay your visa application. "

Thank you for your help in advance

Actually I live in Malaysia...so I have to submit the DS-230, since my interview will be there..

All fees related to the visa itself have been paid to the NVC. Their may be a courier fee for return of the passport after the visa has been affixed (this requires a Jordan specific answer).

Actually I'm a permanent resident in Malaysia now, so my interview is supposed to be their, but thank you for the answer

Hi

I was wondering about the VISA interview if I have to pay an fees for the CR1 VISA, all what I know that I've already paid the $230 for the VISA before submitting the ds-230, do I have to pay again at the embassy?

Thank you all

1 to 3 mths. anything more specific than that would be misinformation.

Thank you

Hi all

Since we are almost at the last stage of our journey, I was wondering how much time do we have to wait between sending the DS-230 and the interview? Any idea please? Any estimation, because I'm confused about it, thank you