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Is there anyway you can increase your income? Pick up a second job?

Algiers Embassy will tell you that they will give consideration to a "credible" co-sponsor, that is they have to be convinced that the co-sponsor would in fact have a very compelling reason to support the applicant if necessary- seems close relatives are the best bet for that. What they deem "credible" gives a lot of discretionary wiggle-room for them, obviously, which could go either way. As Medroni noted above, my case was initially refused on the basis of "public charge" because they didn't accept the co-sponsor we had (a long-time friend of mine).

Your kids will count as your dependents, even in joint custody (actually even if they didn't reside with you at all, they'd still be counted in your household size, assuming they're minors).

All you can do is try... and don't give up! Things can have an extraordinary way of turning around if you persevere Best of luck to you.

For the petition, the proof was mostly regarding having met (entry/exit stamps, boarding passes, pictures).. but the proof of ongoing relationship that my fiancé took to the interview was a Skype log (just showing our calls and times) print-out of inbox and a few emails a month or so of cell phone records, some greeting cards and pictures from our visit in between the petition filing and interview. As I recall him saying, they didn't look at any of it (it was originally refused on the basis of my income, but not for lack of "bona fide relationship" so I don't know what extent our proof of on-going relationship was a factor, but it couldn't have hurt-- they allowed a chance to overcome the refusal and it was later approved )

In any case, it's probably better to have more than enough proof than not.

Best of luck!

Yes, call the state department and see what they say. Did he ever get any call from the regarding the visa delivery? UPS called my fiancé to ask if he wanted to pick it in Algiers or have it delivered to a closer facility. This was just recently, too-- so maybe the embassy is dispatching a batch now and he will get a call soon.

Yugo- do you mind to keep me updated what you hear for your wife receiving the visa in-hand.

MedRoni- did UPS send notice to your husband and he went to pick it up at a facility? That's how DHL and FedEx did it whenever I sent stuff, but maybe this is different.

Thanks!

I wonder about this too... it seems there's been several DZ approvals here recently that are still waiting on the visa . Our case says "issued" on the CEAC website since last week, but no idea when it will be received. Maybe all of us will receive them within the month.

Thank you so much for the heads up about the police clearance!! Definitely hoping to avoid any further delays.. ..still, I'll exhale only when the visa is in hand LOL

Well, what do I know? I just checked CEAC site again (obsess much? ) and now it changed from "refused" to "ready"... but I'm still little confused because the paragraph below it reads like it's before an interview is scheduled. They didn't schedule a second interview, they just said "drop off your passport" Now I still don't really know what to make of that

Our k1 visa was initially refused on the basis of public charge. About 2 weeks ago, my fiancé submitted new evidence of my employment and sufficient income. Today he was contacted to submit his passport as soon as possible, but they did not say if the visa is approved or not. I checked the CEAC website and it still says refused.

Is there some other reason they might request his passport?

definitely agree... I wouldn't risk directly contacting an individual agent who did not disclose their contact info to me personally. Plus it seems the general IV-DV gives a timely reply

Wow, they did reply- and I only emailed them last Wednesday, so that was super-quick (albeit it was a very simple request to just confirm that they received the documents we submitted). So, now it is a matter of more waiting for them to review it and to see what they will ultimately decide.

So, Yugo..did the email you sent yesterday give an instant auto-reply before the real reply?? As Medroni mentioned, sometimes these emails float in a blackhole when they dont generate the auto-reply but... like you said, I don't wanna piss them off either sending too many emails

For those going through processing in Algiers, has anyone communicated with the embassy through their IV-DV email address? I recall before it used to be just the one email address for all visa inquiries, ConsularAlgiers, and always generated an auto-reply (preceeding several weeks of waiting for an actual reply).

I just sent my last email to the IV unit one and didn't get an auto-reply message-- just wondering if anyone here gets real-person replies from that IV-DV address?

To those here well-versed in the field manual I found this in the section of the State Department's FAM on public charge inadmissibility:

"(3) You should note that applications refused under INA 212(a)(4), unlike those refused under INA

221(g), are not subject to termination under INA 203(g)."

What does this mean?

I don't know if it's any easier to find kosher meat where you live, but kosher is also halal.

Oops, I didn't seen there was already a debate going on this topic when I replied- my post is probably moot or redundant by now. Nevermind

Whenever the embassy has replied to an email from us too, I noticed the status update date changed on CEAC as well. I'm sorry that I don't really know what that means for you, but just that I have noticed the same thing on ours a few times now.

I don't know if it's any easier to find kosher meat where you live, but kosher is also halal.

As per the embassy's reply to me a few months ago, you can use a "credible" co-sponsor (I believe they like to see it be a close family member who would have a compelling reason to support you/your fiance if necessary). When my fiance had his interview, I had a co-sponsor and the embassy would not consider it, but it was not a family member of mine, so that seemed to be the problem.

Best of luck!

In a couple weeks, you can email the embassy and inquire with your case #, if they received it they will email a "packet" of information. It will give you instructions for what you will need (forms, documents,approved physicians for medical, etc) and for scheduling an interview.

It can be a long wait for an interview appointment to be scheduled though-- maybe they're moving faster now, but last year it took over 3 months from the time we emailed the embassy for them to schedule an interview (4 months after it left NVC).

I have read some instances here at various consulates of overcoming a k1 refusal for public charge, without refiling, once the petitioner was able to increase earnings. My fiance was refused 4 months ago because my income was insufficient and the CO would not accept our co-sponsor. The refusal worksheet did not mark section 221(g), only section 212(a)(4)was checked followed with the note that our case would be given further consideration if we provide a new I-134 and proof that petitioner is working full-time with sufficient income. I just started a new job and my income will exceed the 125% guideline for my household size, including my fiance. The worksheet didn't indicate a time within which the new proof had to be submitted (DoS said one year). There was also also no indication of minimum proof (e.g. certain number of months on the job/number of paystubs).

Would it be ill-advised to quickly send off the new I-134 with employment letter and 2 or 3 paystubs? Is it also possible that since four months have passed, the consulate could have returned the petition to USCIS without informing us? It didn't mention any intention of returning it on the refusal worksheet. I don't want to be hasty, but also want to resume some progress as quickly as possible in case refiling becomes necessary. Anyone?

Aaaw Im sorry to hear that

What are you gona do now?

Well, the refusal sheet given to my fiance said further consideration will be given to our petition if I can show proof of a full-time job with sufficient income.

But like I said, we're all told something different. I think I recall reading that you were told you had to have a year at your job to be considered, yet they didn't tell us that. So therefore, just because they wouldn't accept a non-family member co-sponsor in my case doesn't mean that they won't accept one in yours. I'd suggest you email the embassy and just ask them if they will accept a non-family member co-sponsor but I know they take forever to answer. Still, at least you'd know.

I'd be curious to hear the answer

Best of luck!

Hello

Has anyone had any problems with the co-sponsor NOT being a family member?

OR has anybody been able to get the visa when the co-sponsor was not a family member?

I did. It was three weeks ago. Same embassy as you. It was a long-time friend of my family and the consulate said

it was not acceptable even though she made well over the required income.

But with the vagaries of the DZ embassy, precendent means absolutely nothing whether they will accept or refuse this in your case. One person can be told one thing and the next can be told something entirely different.

The form was a 212 (A) (4)....Has anyone else ever received this? I have to now find another sponsor

My fiance also received a 212 (a)(4). It's a refusal until you can overcome the public charge inadmissibility. Did the paper they gave him have any other boxes checked, like notes about what you need to submit?

Since they kept his passport, sounds like they will approve it as soon as you get another co-sponsor and present the documents for that.

They didn't keep my fiance's passport, but they kept all the other documents. The paper he received said the petition will be given further consideration if I can show proof of full-time job with sufficient income (but it said nothing about a minimum history of one year at the job) In our case, the CO would not accept the co-sponsor.

So since the original post is a bit old have you had the interview and did they ask this question?

Hello-- to answer your question, yes my fiance had his interview a little over 2 weeks ago and yes, he was asked about his family's opinion of the engagement. He answered truthfully and it appeared to be a non-issue as far as the CO's reaction would indicate.

The CO was far more interested in just how in the hell did 5 people actually LIVE on my income last year without public assistance( I was employed only part-time. No, we weren't on the dole--I just know how to thin out the soup and make do)

Anyways, result: denial for 212 a(4) allowing further consideration upon presenting additional evidence... in other words, maybe his family was right on about this impoverished American dreg of society:P (Actually, we remain hopeful of salvaging this petition as the circumstances change) Co-sponsor was a longtime family friend and that was problematic to the CO (in retrospect, I should have gone with my dad instead)

Anyway, most of the interview was spent asking questions about my first marriage, my load of little waifs, and do we still manage to brush the flies from our dessicated eyeballs when we're so flippin' poor??

Best of luck to you.

I concur with the post above. I had not only a family friend as a co-sponsor but my fiance also had his own funds to show self-suffiency. Neither were acceptable in this case. It is seems very arbitrary and frustrating, but it is left to the discretion of the CO.

Had I known then what I know now about this latitude in considering k1 co-sponsors, I would've just gone ahead and got married and filed for CR-1 whereby they are required to accept a co-sponsor with the legally-binding I-864 affidavit of support (as opposed to the essentially worthless "paper tiger" that is I-134)

If there is no way you can increase your income to meet the requirement on your own, you may want to consider going with the CR-1 and have any family member or friend who is willing and eligible to co-sponsor.

If you feel it's already too late for that and you wanna go ahead with a friend as your co-sponsor, then try it... every case is different and maybe they will view your circumstances differently (you're a student afterall, obviously you're potential earning capacity is much more promising than where you are now) the worst they can say is "no" and even then it's not like you can't try to remedy the situation or re-file. Best of luck.

Hi everyone, My father is going to sign the affidavit of support form but i'm a little worried because he has already sponsored his friends son before. Does anyone what the chances are of the Consulate still accepting it and what the limit on sponsoring is?

Also, has anyone been successful in getting their visa even with the co sponsor was a friends and not a relative and should I try that?

Thanks

If your father has sufficient income/assets to cover his household plus the previous sponsoree plus your fiance, then I strongly recommend you go with him as your co-sponsor.

I had a close friend of my family as my co-sponsor and DZ would not accept it. This was just a couple weeks ago and I'm still reeling from the disappointment.

From my experience, I'd advise you to not have your friend be a co-sponsor.