Simo-Britt

Ask your husband if he knows anyone in government/ministry because it's all about bribes and who you know. We were able to do this in 2 1/2 weeks and that's us knowing people in the police/ministry but we had the advantage of living in Rabat.

My advice to throw in with the others:

-Definitely shop around for translators, ours is great and does stuff severely discounted because most don't mind to scam a westerner also you will need stuff translated in the future and make sure to TELL that guy this so that things will get cheap. If you are in Rabat and need a document translated I have just the guy.

-Take the max time you can afford/have off. The reason is you two will be running around in the completely unromantic rat-race of paperwork...that you don't want to go there marry, do paperwork and feel like you never even enjoyed time together. A lot of us MENA people don't get to go there often and you never know when you will go next. Also it looks better the longer you stay there.

-Be aware of religious differences, alhamdoulilah I am Muslim American so it was easy but the judge still drilled us on religion, not sure if that was particular to our case but I've heard them even asking how many surahs you know. Some judges don't like mixed religious marriages fyi but this maybe just my experience.

-Cancel the process start of with CR1...besides it being not super expensive since you are re-applying you have a higher rate of success. Also the advantage of the green card on entry is very nice compared to buying that expensive card later, also the 2 year conditional status ...well just all-in-all there is much more benefit to marriage. Also (if you are Muslim) it makes everything halal and Allah ta'ala blesses the marriage as you will be halal for each other.

I'm sorry it's been a 4 year process but mashAllah to your patience. I thought I was whiny going on almost a year with my process and 2 months in AP but alhamdoulilah at least I have my husband. May Allah ta'ala help and make it easier for you and of course bug any of us for help.

4 months for you that scares me I think I'm around a month and a half...I want to know this answer too so I'm hoping you get more replies =) Ramadan Kareem

FYI my husband never received a packet in the mail so we had to get everything online...I think some get it and some don't!? Not sure but there is no packet 4 just 3...and everything is available online that's for sure and of course we are here to answer any questions.

We are in the same boat with you guys, had our interview needed paperwork and have been in AP ever since ongoing 40 some days now.

Hey Op I agree with you!

First off hello and I am very sorry you have gone through all of that as everyone else has said, I'm glad that you are strong and wise enough to run far and fast away from that situation; unlike many woman who choose to stay with their abusers. I hope that God blesses with you with a great, wonderful man whenever He finds a suitable time and until then you heal and have a renewed hope in humanity (as if I were in your situation I would have a hard time with).

I am married to my awesomely sweet Moroccan husband (hi honey I know you are reading this ) for over a year now, alhamdoulilah he is awesome in his faith (I am a Muslim too, convert before our marriage) and we were really best friends before our marriage and had talked about me moving to his country but...I'm well accustomed to my culture and he is willing enough to sacrifice his for mine (thanks simo). We are in AP and it sucks but inshAllah, Allah tests the patient.

Anywho...on to the subject. I agree with what you said, having known some fraud marriages from stories my husband has told me about other men, one including a moroccan man who is married in Morocco (wife and two kids) and bribed someone to have his "bachelor paper" or whatever it's called and passed his interview and is now happily in America with his american wife and she has absolutely no idea that he is married with kids and I don't even want to know what that poor first wife of his is going through.

Sadly I know a lot of Moroccan stories and some Algerian that are just scams and the girls are naive to what's going on. Infact I get messages from them sometimes asking ME to find them a wife here (as if! they can keep dreaming). Infact I think I know more stories that are scams than are actually legit happy marriages. There are some warnings signs, one big one I notice is they are hypocritical to their religion and tend to either fake their religiousness or there is an absence of it which is...not very common in MENA cultures particularly north africa. I know if your husband feared Allah this would never happen but people sadly have no fear of God so it seems. I notice you pinpointed a few things Islamically, yes they are supposed to raise their kids as Muslims it's forbidden to raise as a Christian. There's many reasons for this which I won't get into but if you marry a man who is Muslim and he is actually practicing his faith you are marrying his laws/customs...as he does and should integrate into yours (so long as they do not interfere with his religious rights). A lot of our MENA husbands on here have that happy medium of being a good Muslim and still fitting into society.

The thing about your post is, most of us on this MENA forum have successful marriage so we can't necessarily relate to your story (and it's a horror story I wish nobody had). Also the MENA women are a bit...clique-ish and there's a lot of unnecessary hostility which comes from...who knows where and I apologize for that, I have a happy marriage that is contrary to your post but it's still something one should ponder as it is unfortunately a very big reality and problem. My problem that I have is that the embassy keeps giving them visas. I know personally 2 scammers with green cards, passed with flying colors while I know 3 of us who have legit relationships in AP and I have half-a-mind go ask how much hashish the embassy smokes daily but I am rather dependent on them so I bite my tongue for now.

If you had an issue with some of the shariah laws than I give you kind advice to perhaps not marry a Muslim in the future as it's not in anyone's right to revoke someones ethical laws (for either partner) as there has to be some sort of agreement on things. I will conclude that I do believe most MENA men have ill intention on getting a visa as I have seen it and so has my husband first hand whether it's for the visa, contentment, to escape their countries. I just think a lot of these men aren't on visajourney. I'm sorry you were with a bad Muslim and may Allah give you justice whether it's in this life and the next. I hope this post did shed some light to all of us that there is a problem with moreso the embassy for approving these relationships and that perhaps some women will look for more warning signs (evil the travel/gov website has it's own segment on fraud marriages as yes MENA women they are that abundant). Thank you for telling us your story.

If he made a mistake on a paper that doesn't require his signature on that page I don't see why you can't re-fill it out correctly and print it. You don't want to get denied/missing paper because they tend to just throw you in AP and you will be waiting awhile hoping you will be fine (like me) you can always call the embassy and change the interview date also. I wouldn't risk it, they are very particular and a hard embassy so get everything 200% correct because there's a good chance they put you in AP anyway like most of us nowadays. Some DO get lucky though.

Moroccan embassy is extremely picky on income and if you didn't make enough on 2012 there is a good chance they will make you get a cosponsor and put you in AP (like they did me) you are better off to get a cosponsor so that everything is approved. I was approved of my income at the NVC level (after submitting my own letter explaining my income and my bosses projection of 2013) and it wasn't enough for them, they are at their own discretion and they seem more keen to deny than to approve. If you do make enough for 2013 then hopefully they will overlook the fact you didn't for 2012 but the embassy is very tough and I would do more than less.

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Have you looked into something called mandamus complaint. Since you are...above and beyond the norm I would be lawyering it up. Could be discrimination why you have had no real answer to anything. I strongly look into some course of action because you might be waiting a very long time. I'm in AP too but only a month so far.

Mabrook, inshAllah you won't get into AP like a lot of us, so just prepare yourself for that chance since it's quite prevalent nowadays. Make a lot of du'aa. Ramadan Kareem.

We are exactly one month now on AP. They wanted a cosponsor, so we took care of that so you aren't alone in your wait. I'm just upset it's almost 1 year since I originally filed. Mabrook Ramadan.

Hahaha my mistake thanks for correcting me I forgot K1 is different. =)

Lol are you crazy.

We got all our papers notarized which the requirement wasn't even near 40. We had a great guy in Rabat who did it for us, I think the total ended up being like less than 100 dirhams a page. Which we brought the price much lower, my husband has more info on this anyway don't do whatever your about to do. Send me a PM, my husband will read it when he wakes up and he will tell you where to go and who he is. We literally didn't pay much and you won't pay nearly that at all.

Alright, I know what to do.

Look I'm in the same situation as you were, my income fluctuates (restaurant) and on my taxes it didn't nearly show enough (that's my fault I should've claimed more). I can't fix my taxes as I tried to look into it and they said not possible so here is what I did because literally we have the same issue.

1. On the employment letter I had my boss state why my last years income was the amount (because I took 3 months off to visit my husband) had I worked I would've met the income. I also had him fill out my projected income.

2. I write my own letter explaining why my income looks much less than it should (having time off for my husband)

3. On the form I claimed every dollar to my name including what's in my bank account.

4. I attached past years taxes.

This got me through NVC. I was ecstatic because I had no chance of a co-sponsor.

Then my husband had the interview. One consulate officer said it was fine, the other said no. The one who said no has my authority. Everything in our interview was approved except they want a cosponsor (sigh). So now we are sitting here scrambling to find a co-sponsor weeks after the interview. Don't do our mistake.

Here's what I recommend.

Get all the evidence you can to support your income, send it through to NVC. NVC will most likely approve it, find a co-sponsor. You can always submit that document later before the interview to the embassy or NVC. Then you are clear, golden and everything is fine. Don't take the risk that they will reject you when it's at interview stage, now we are in AP because of it and we don't know how long we will be in AP now. You don't have to wait on your co-sponsor to submit documents, since things are so darn slow now I really wouldn't waste time waiting for them to finish the paperwork. The embassies can make their own rules (I have the worst one at casablanca) and if they decide they just don't like your income they can issue you a co-sponsor.

What about those of us in AP because we need a cosponsor and we asked everyone and we hit a dead end, we have nobody and I the (petitioner) need to move to Morocco...what's my cheer after 9/10 months of waiting.

Salam

I am the petitioner

SO we are at the point of sending in the AOS packet and IV which I intend to send together (inshAllah). My husband and I have almost 2 years of evidence, it's daunting to think about compiling them. So here are my questions:

1. How much should I send to NVC and how much should go to my husband for the interview?

2. What type of evidence should I send to both, would NVC prefer more emails and consulate more photos/receipts?

3. Is it more important to show the timeframe of communication, or much more important to show the substance (information we've talked about) OR the different means of communication. If they literally want all of that how am I to assemble a packet it would be well over 100 pages and I think that's just way too much to send.

InshAllah the rest of this will be speedy

Thanks for the answer/advice.

The only way for you to prove your cash income is to claim it on your taxes

Therein lies the problem. This fiscal year just started, how am I to prove an income above the poverty limit when only a few months have passed?

Hi everyone! Hope your days are going well and for those waiting that the wait will be short.

I'm the petitioner writing this.

SO let's get to it. I just recently got an email from NVC stating that I can go ahead and start sending the email doc and paying fees. Everything is going smoothly except this:

The Problems:

-I make enough in actuality but it's in cash (server job) and I can't prove that and my paystubs only show my hourly (4.25)

-Last year I didn't report enough of my income and I'm not sure what this year looks like

SO questions are:

1. Is there a way to prove my income even though it's a variable/not-fixed?

2. Since I make above the poverty limit do I need a co-sponsor?

It's out of the question for me to get another job to supplement (I already work full time and go to school part time). I'm just wondering if the solution is with my employer signing a paper, but I can't imagine any boss willingly wanting to sign a paper like this. My tax guy said something going to them asking for a W-4 or something but I figured I'd go to the wise ones here first. I'm essentially screwed if I need a co-sponsor because I have begged looked for months to no avail.

If someone has a solution I might make them homemade cookies.

Thanks everyone Britt and Simo

Stock up on shoes while you are there (seriously I love moroccan shoes). I am like all of you and freeze below 60 and when I was there in March/April last year I froze. I even got a cold in Tangier and it rained non-stop. I brought a wool jacket and it was my best friend. For the flight I can't express how comfortable the clothes you will need. If you are flying Air France (love that airline) it's a lot nicer than our american national lines. Def invest in a djellaba, I suggest to get one handmade so that it will fit you perfectly and you can decide the colors and whatnot.

The marriage process is a pain, but we can help you through it =) also it's about who you know, I was lucky that my husbands father knew people in the police department and government so for us we did it in 2 weeks.

OH also make sure you bring comfortable shoes, I never walked so much in my life

Ours was approved February 4th, I logged onto USCIS using our application number and I noticed that the (Expect a 30-45 day delay on applications getting to NVC) message on top was taken off, I was hopeful today was the day.

After the 4th I waited about one week and a half to call (seeing that they got hammered by a snow storm) they said give us 10-20 days, then I called a week later and they said a week maximum, now today I called and I got the case number. I really don't suggest harassing them everyday until they say (a week or so). If they say 10-20 days they probably aren't lying to you on a bit of a wait. People calling needlessly is probably why we wait 30 minutes just to get through aside from the number of applications.

Anywho good luck to everyone, I'm sure we will all get our case numbers soon.

If you want people to help you, you have to edit your timeline, they asked you genuinely to do that before! We are helping each other by updating the timelines and sharing with everyone.. Thanks

The pictures aren't surprising, they track everything you do online in Morocco. I think a lot of the interview is just to verify the things they already know about you two seeing that they can look up his whole chat history online.

I was able to put my husband (beneficiary) to my bank account (as a beneficiary to my account) on my car insurance as a driver. That's about the extent I could go without a social security number. I really recommend the car insurance since it takes literally one minute.

Hello everybody,

First thank you all in advance for your time and help.

I have a random questions and I'm confused cause I found different answers

We are about to just start filling the forms, my questions are:

- Do I have to take screenshots of emails/Facebook or just copy and paste?? and how many of each month??

- I have to sign, g-325a and fiance letter of intent, can I write just my name or I have to scan my signature??

Thank you all

Hello all, my fiance visited me a week ago and we're having a good time!!

My question is:

What do you guys advice us to do while we're together before starting the k1??

Thank you all =)

Hi everybody, my fiance lives in AZ, and we want to start to process of the k-1 after visiting my country..

My question is :

how much money she needs to get all paperwork in US???