freshaire

2nd one filed K1 in 2012. I have done (3) K1 since 2008. Nothing extraordinary, just stated I wanted a waiver for multiply filing and put all info regarding Alien Number and other information for my previous two K1's.

The waiver comes from the USCIS and after granted and then approved K1 it is sent to the NVC and then to the embassy of your fiancé.

Getting a K1 waiver is easy, of course I had no criminal history that would bar me from filing.

Slight turn from original topic, but just wanted to bump this post for more opinions on the waiver for the 3rd K-1 and whether VOL is an anomoly /lucky or whether waivers are more commonly approved lately.

I typed up a waiver request, it is there on the I-129 saying you need on if it like your 3rd time to file. Very simple and basic.

There are a couple of other posters on here that are on multiply K1 also, There is another dude that post in Philippines section, he on his 3rd K1 also, he was approved in 13 days, mine took 52 days.

We did interview in November, CO told us that we were approved day of interview, and she had visa in hand via courier within 4 working days.

Hey great for you! If you dont mind, how long ago was the second K-1 filed?

Anything extraordinary that you mentioned in the waiver request?

Maybe Philippines is easier than eastern europe (Urkaine) on these waivers....

I am on my 3rd K1 Visa all in Philippines.

Just had my interview last month in Philippines, CO never brought up my past K1 and he only asked my fiancé about 4 question.

thats very interesting to me that a 3rd K-1 was allowed as far as the interview step, because based on what has been stated on this site it would seem that it can only happen with a "wavier" and then only in extreme conditions. Did you need to file this waiver form? Does the US have a written policy on this?

VOL, i certainly hope the best for you and your fiancee and dont want to be negative; however you havent received any thumbs up and a quick interview doesnt mean approval, cant it just as easily imply summary dismissal?

My understanding is that two 129-F applications (K-1 visa) are all that a US citizen gets, and a third finacee visa is just not going to happen.

Does someone with such a track record (two strikes is how i look at it) have less possibility of success with a CR-1? It would be good to know in advance,

if there are general rules for this sort of situation. Thanks for opinions.

So, i ask again, how did you find out about all of this? Was she unable to hide it from you when you visited? Did you follow her around? Did you just ask her? How did you two meet? Had you met in person before the long distance relationship? Did she deny everything at first? Where's your proof?

We met online, and then met every 2-4 months in various locations around the world for over 2 years.

Yes she has continuously denied anything except a clean clear history of loyalty (obviously she is the most

adept liar I have ever met) and yes i have much evidence about her carnal infidelities plus other possible

plans for when she gets established in the US.

While I do appreciate advice, I would rather not divulge too much about how and what kind of information. I can say

that it includes letters and photos that would not be compatible with the intention of coming to the US to marry.

Sorry, I think I may have got you mixed up with someone else who was a serial petitioner.

She cheated on you, unpleasant as that is, it's not a scam or crime.

As you said you were "weeks before we planned to submit documents", where is the scam??

Of course maybe im too close to it, but I would assert this situation is not merely a matter of "a cheating woman",

as it is in the context of a 95% completed visa application, just short of mailing to Texas.

I really do want the Embassy to take note of this situation. By your reasoning, they will not unless i now

go ahead with the application so that it's "technically" a potential crime.

If I were sure this would not be "counted against me" as a second visa application, I would seriously consider

paying the fee and submitting the forms with her signature etc.

OP.....Have you filed I-129F petition/s before?

Yes but it was 15 years ago. Is that relevant?

Do you have any evidence? You said you found out about it but unless you have evidence that her relationship with you was fraudulent, that she was involved with you just to get to the US, then they just won't listen. They'll put a flag on her for sure then, but that doesn't "black list" her, it just says she scammed ONE person and to look a little harder at whatever person is applying for her now. They also MIGHT listen if you let them know that you were involved with her since X just in case she starts a visa with someone and the dates overlap.

Best you can do is call ICE (info at the bottom of the page) and ask them whether they can do anything.

As far as evidence, what i do have are some completed, but not submitted, application forms from her indicating her general intent to apply. And lots of info indicating relationships with other men while with me. I do not have anything, like an email from her to a friend, wherein she states something like "i cant wait to get to the US and then ditch this guy.." or similar.

Maybe, as others have said, the best i can do is show the embassy her dark side and advise them not to take everything at face value.

I am glad you found out the truth

Have you sent the petition yet?

If you did please email USCIS to cancel it and they should mail you a confirmation of the cancellation.

If you sent it already then if you send another petition for a foreigner you may get asked some questions but it should not be a problem.

Please report her so she is at least questioned during her next interview

Luckily, this trip happened weeks before we planned to submit documents.

I feel that putting her info on a scammer website is rather passive. Its a longshot that another man would find out about her unless he searched that site etc. I would rather be aiming at a more direct complaint to the Embassy where she is likely to go for a future interview.

Sure, there is an argument for "cutting your losses and letting it go", and maybe in time that is what I shall choose I must do. But for now, 2 years of time, countless gifts, and a dozen international trips later, I would not feel content unless I knew i was at least making a best effort to subvert her sleazy goals.

This may be a bit off topic for VisaJourney, as it never became a formal visa journey.

But the discussion may prove of value for someone who finds they are in a similar situation.

I recently (just this week) returned from a trip to Russia to see my girlfriend of several years

for the New Years holidays. After many months of suspiciouns, unfortunately or fortunately, I

discovered massive infidelity on the scale worthy of a salacious Hollywood motion picture.

Not only was she bedding dozens of work, school and social acquaintances, she was actively planning future

carnal and business opportunity options upon her arrival in the US once our fiancee visa was approved.

I am sure that within a few months, she shall enlist another candidate to submit an I-129F as part of her "do whatever it takes" approach to getting herself to terra firma in the USA.

I certainly blame my nativity; I was deceived by her, she is a lawyer with a high level position in a multinational corporation with english skills exceeding my own. Her level of sophistication and deception are something I have never encountered with anyone, let alone a potential wife.

Would the US Embassy in her city be at all interested in my evidence of her behavior? I would be delighted if she were put on a "black list" but....maybe this is just wishful thinking on my part.

Additionally, I would not want to get on a watch list myself, for being associated with such person.

There are rules limiting the number of k1's you can file and in what time frame. It's listed on the I-129F instructions.

Thanks for that heads up, I missed seeing it on the application.

Thereofore for me this would be a waiver question.

A third 129-F application, even within a 10 year period, would trigger a waiver process.

It sounds like the waiver for a second application, albeit within the 24 month period, is no biggie.

Any opinion on whether a third application would be much more difficult?

Say you are successful in obtaining a K-1 Visa, you invite your finacee to the US and either decide not to follow thru

with the invitation/ticket, or similarly, within the 3 months of living together, you determine that it just isnt the match

made in heaven. What impact does this have, if you decide at a later date to try the K-1 process again with someone else?

Im not taking the K-1 application lightly, nor do I anticipate being unlucky in my choice of fiancee,

but going from one culture to another, going from a few meetings together to where you are living

together 24/7 can add some variables to the usual variables effecting the success of any relationship.

Can the US officials look at the history of a "failed K-1" and make the determination that the US citizen is just abusing

the process or something similar and just deny a K-1 even it meets all the technical criteria?

thanks in advance for comments

I've never tried it, but seriously I doubt they have it. Until recently they didn't even keep track of prior approvals in their database. I would just attach a sheet explaining. Give them as much info on what they ask as you can.

Mostly what its for is to see if you have filed before in the last 2 years and the number of times you have filed. Since we're talking about over a decade and a half ago I don't think you have to worry about it too much.

Good luck!

Thanks for the fast comments. Yes i would agree that it makes sense for INS to check for people abusing the system. On the other hand, my thought on most government agencies is that they will find whatever reason they can to put something on the bottom of the pile or just deal with it later (if not precisely completed formwise) so you could say im being a bit paranoid

Any help in finding a database or online way to discover an application i did in 1995?

Otherwise i guess im stuck going down the the local INS office and waiting...and waiting.... and...

thanks in advance for any help on this topic!