Haruki

UPDATE: I have to start cleaning my house! EMS delivered passports with visas today!

Thanks guys for your input. I will continue on the drafts of my statements. I will continue packing my luggages for my return trip to China. We'll take more pictures of us together. I plan to make an appointment at the Consulate to have my statements and passport notarized. I thank God it's blue. But I can't can't change the past nor the timing of things, ie., our divorces and marriage. I have a home here and a so-so State job (State jobs don't pay well), and my wife and I wanted to have children. The ideal situation would be here in the US, but for us, it's about being together.

loko, if Eunice told you the same thing, then guess what?

she just vetted my stuff

Eunice and I not talk at all about cases...

and we only talk about MY case, ages ago.

We not share info, ever, on stuff she's working on.

Interesting... Then I must retract and say: you're quite insightful! Although a bit freaky.

Holy Mother o God.

Yer on the hook buddy -

this is a step away from 'the kiss of death' as they really think you not have any bonafide relationship with your wife. Plus there's at least (IMO) two other red flags tied up in all of this

1. arranged marriage (not that common between Anglos and Chinese)

2. little to no 'down time' between divorce finalization and next marriage.

I'm gonna make inline comments below. My apologies for the late-ish-ness of my reply - I've been super busy with work, and I think your issues require some pointed response. Happy to have Pushbrk punch holes in my premises, below, as well. [vetting is cool]

hmmm. You have been talking to Eunice perhaps? Wikileaks?

Holy Mother o God.

Yer on the hook buddy -

this is a step away from 'the kiss of death' as they really think you not have any bonafide relationship with your wife. Plus there's at least (IMO) two other red flags tied up in all of this

1. arranged marriage (not that common between Anglos and Chinese)

2. little to no 'down time' between divorce finalization and next marriage.

I'm gonna make inline comments below. My apologies for the late-ish-ness of my reply - I've been super busy with work, and I think your issues require some pointed response. Happy to have Pushbrk punch holes in my premises, below, as well. [vetting is cool]

Thanks Darnell.

She is Marc Ellis' associate in Guangzhou. I have heard nothing but good things said.

Wow! That's good to hear. The Yang's recommended her. Thanks Ryan!

BTW, before leaving Guangzhou, my wife had met a legal assistant, through a recommendation. Her name Eunice You.

Thank you for all your responses. I believe I know what I need to do. 1) Type up some drafts to organize the statements. 2) Collect my bank statements to show I paid for my own airfare, all the Western Union transactions, purchase of a passport, visa, etc. 3) Contact my US Senator and let him know. 4) I need to return to China, take some new photos, and perhaps make some videos of me and my wife with family there. 5) Then make an appointment for ACS to hand-deliver the listed items to an officer, if possible.

Thank you! You're awesome! The Yangs were kind and scanned the 221g for me and sent to me before my wife left for Wuhan. In the mean time, I'll try to get the images downsized and posted.

The images were too large to post so I put them in my gallery. This is all the paperwork I have from her so far. Darnell, is this the paperwork you are referring to?

I second these bits in bold. Those in the building are sharks. Same venue as lawyers who chase ambulances into the ER at a hospital. I do understand that there may be 2 that maintain offices there, that are actually any good - it's still on you to decide to use them, in the end.

When I got the call from them, I haven't seen the 221g yet. They offered to translate between me and my wife. The guy told me she got a denial because we only had pictures of us wearing nice clothes, no wedding pictures or video. He said we need pictures of daughter when she was young, together with mother. Your wife wants to use our services to get the visa for your wife and your daughter. She wants to know what you think. He told me his cost, I declined. He rebutted saying: "you have a difficult and complex case, you need a video of your wedding, you have that?" I graciously told him I need to think about it.

'Just read that I have to mail it all to her and she will mail it to the Embassy along with a completed EMS COD waybill.

My link

Yikes - if you'd like, I can write a bunch here about this 221g. My schedule is tight for now, perhaps this evening or the weekend?

One quick bit - on 'how to respond' to this 221G -

It's listed in the paperwork she received back. I'll guess it'll be some postal packet from her.

Thank you! You're awesome! The Yangs were kind and scanned the 221g for me and sent to me before my wife left for Wuhan. In the mean time, I'll try to get the images downsized and posted.

To be precise, this is we received:

It’s blue cover sheet stating:

Dear Immigrant Visa Applicant:

The Consulate is unable to issue you an immigrant visa because according to the section of the Immigration and Nationality Act listed below; you are currently ineligible:

(A checked box) 221(g) (lacking Documents/Further Processing)

(A checked box) For information and steps you can take to overcome this decision, refer to:

(A checked box) the attached sheets

Further consideration will be given to your visa application after you obtain and present the documents on the attached sheets and/or the following:

(Handwritten) - photos of applicant and daughter since childhood

The following pages are white and the checked boxes are:

A detailed statement, written by the petitioner, describing the evolution of your relationship. Be sure to, at the very least, explain how you met, when you started dating, and how, when and why you became engaged.

A statement, written by the petitioner, listing every trip s/he has taken to China to visit you and explain how you spent your time together. Include dates and locations. Explain who arranged his/her trip China, purchased his/her tickets and who accompanied him/her.

Explain in detail your relationship(s) with your ex-spouse(s), explaining how you met; whether you filed an I-130 petition for this spouse; how long you lived together before separating or divorcing (give dates and locations); how many children you had with this ex-spouse and who these children currently live with; and why you got divorced.

(Checked) Petitioner’s ex-spouse(s)

(Checked) Your ex-spouse(s)

A notarized copy of petitioner’s passport pages clearly showing Chinese visa and entry/exit stamps. Copy the entire passport, even if some pages are blank. Properly notarize each page as seen and compared to original by notary. All entry and exit dates must be legible.

Photographs taken of you and your petitioner together since you first met. Describe as much relevant information as possible for each submission, such as all individuals in photos, dates, locations and photographer. Label photo albums with your case number and name.

Photos of your wedding ceremony or celebration. If you did not celebrate, or you celebrated but didn’t take photos, submit a credible explanation.

Thanks for your responses. I'll start getting the photos re-printed, get started on a stronger EOR statement, a statement about my trip to China, show I paid for my tickets and visa, a statement about my exes' and have my wife draft one for hers and have it translated at the Civil affairs office. I guess I supposed to mail it all to her and she mail it to Guangzhou? Should I be e-mailing the consulate? Not sure.

Today, my wife had her interview. I got a call from an attorney who apparently works by the Embassy or in the Embassy. I knew the news would not be good. She got a 221g. The attorney then briefly told me of the reasons for the denial and informed me that our case is complex. He told me that my wife would like to hire him to take the case. Then, I said “okay, how much?” He responds $600 down and $3,000 when the visa arrives. I declined for now. My wife had the 221g scanned and sent to me. It appears I needed more photos. Remember the lost mail I sent back in November, well that had 176 photos of me with my wife, friends, family. It also mentions VHS and DVD, which I found odd. I thought they declined electronic media. They also want an EOR. I had one signed, notarized, scanned, front loaded and sent her the original along with 288 pages of daily chat logs. They want a detailed statement of all the times I went to China and how we spent our time together. Again, was in my original 2 page EOR. They want statements from both of us regarding our ex-spouses, how we met, how long we lived together, number of children and reason for divorce. I guess they want you to be divorced for more than a year before you re-marry. BTW, this is the first time I filed an I-130. They also want copies of my passport showing the entry/exit stamps (which I front loaded and sent), but they want every page notarized. They want photos of my wife with her daughter during her childhood. I don’t know if I need to hire an attorney or not. I don’t know if this is a complex case. I also think it’s a little late to try to fly back to China at this stage. I think I just added another 3 months or more to getting her and her daughter a visa. But then, I guess they can still deny even if I submitted everything they require. No offense, but I don’t want anyone to feel sorry for me, just need some good options. Thanks. Not sure how to load the scanned 221g.

Yea! My wife just informed me that EMS delivered the express mail today and the lost parcel is likely held up in customs.

Awesome!

Sorry, I misunderstood - somehow I thought it had left the USA already when you were writing about this.

but on the 'lost' package that you did reference, the first one -EMS should be able to put their hands on it - she'll need to call, use telephone, to get them to find it.

Tempus Fugit! Tick Tock ! grrrr.

Panic stricken, I may have not so clear as to my situation. My bad. Anyway, I have asked my wife to check with EMS. As of this morning, the express mail I sent is in Shanghai and enroute to Wuhan. We might make it after all! As far as the initial parcel, it was sent as first class international, not express mail. I hope it was delivered to some turnip farmer scratching his head to my tax returns and photos of me with my wife and her family. Well, here's to wishful thinking. Thanks for your help, as always!

uhm -

1. calling usps can be useful, but they won't know anything more than what you can see on the online tracking thingie.

2. calling EMS is really useful, as they know where the package is. Or even where they lost it.

Have her call EMS in the morning, get it sorted. She's got the tracking #'s, right? As long as it's made it out of China Customs Processing, EMS can get to it, regardless of the mis-steps and mis-queues along the way to her house.

Thanks again Darnell! I looked up the tracking number at USPS again and it appears they have sent the parcel to Chicago yesterday and now enroute to destination. Nevertheless, I gave my wife the tracking number and asked her to check with the local EMS office in Wuhan. I just hope she'll have what she needs for their interview.

Another thing you can do, have your wife contact EMS.

Thanks Ryan. I'll let her know.

ya - usps and EMS share tracking info, sorta, once it's inside of china.

have your wife call EMS

and talk with the local EMS office as well - EVERY TIME I SEND SOMETHING to my wife, she has to call EMS and meet the carrier. It drives me nuts, but it is what it is.

Thanks Darnell.

My wife and daughter have their document turn-in on the 15th. My wife is planning to get rail tickets and leave for Guangzhou on the 10th. I have sent her two parcels (November 18th), all of which have been scanned and sent to NVC (I front-loaded my EOR letter, chat logs, phone records, flight itinerary, scanned receipts, boarding passes, etc.). I had my wife write her address in Chinese so I could make labels with both English and Chinese addresses. One parcel arrived on the 28th; the other parcel didn’t make it to her. Missing were the I-864, tax returns, pay stubs, photographs, EOR letter, etc. So, I waited a few days. Then, I express mailed the I-864, tax returns, pay stubs to her. I felt pretty good about it since it was guaranteed delivery no later than the 7th of December. Today, I look at the tracking and USPS said it was “missent.” Now, I’m not sure if it will get to her in time for her by the 10th, nor am I sure if the original parcel will arrive before she leaves for Guangzhou. Even though they have the scanned documents, I’m pretty sure the consulate wants the original I-864’s. I can call USPS Monday and have them trace it. Then, give it a few days to see if anything gets delivered. Maybe express mail documents directly to the consulate…I don’t even know if I can do that. I may be out of time. I’m grasping at straws here. I would appreciate any thoughts on this.

I thought photos are secondary evidence. It could be photo shopped too

Yes. And yes, I agree.

Congratulations! I have tears of joy for you both! Truly a beautiful thing.

May the Lord walk with you both! What a beautiful day!

Hey buddy we use QQ or Skype, Son taught her mother how to use the computer now skype all the time.

If she has access to a computer, I agree with bigdog. I use Skype to talk to my wife in China. As far as the phone, I use Dianhua China. I have her call me, I don't answer, then I call her back using Dianhua China. It's 1.5 cents a minutes for mobile to mobile.

I’ve been filling out the DS-230 for my wife and step daughter. I got to the part where it is asking for my step daughter’s father’s date of birth and address. I know he lives at a different address but my wife’s household registry says they are divorced but have the same address. My initial concerns were how will IV Unit at Guangzhou see this? Will they even ask to see her household registry? On the DS-230, should I put the address in her registry as her ex-husband’s address? Or should I put the address her ex-husband is at currently? Any thoughts on this? Thanks.