Haisook

Unless I'm very much mistaken it was the six members of their family who all individually submitted applications and five of those were chosen - which is perfectly within the rules. Regardless of how the result is drawn there will always be a high proportion of people left unhappy - the point is that usually those chosen don't then have it snatched away two weeks later.

Absolutely correct. Also remember that the machine chose 90% of winners from people who applied in the first two days, but that does not mean it chose all people who applied in those two days. It was still random after all. Not to mention that there are 78,000 chances left that they can use for another lottery after fixing the error.

NigeriaorBust finds what happened completely normal and justifiable. He says, "Yes it isn't pleasant for the 22000 people that thought they had won but it is fair to the over 15 million people that applied", forgetting that it's not simply "not pleasant" to people, but devastating, largely because those people have been told they won and have already sent in the papers. The rest 15 million, I'm sure, are not as shocked or sad, because nothing has been taken from them. We've been applying for 20 years, and never won. We were frustrated every year of course, but it was justifiable, while now it's not.

You need to understand the difference between "not winning" and "winning then losing".

There has been no actional act. No laws broken. People get their dream broken everyday

I can't find a "vote down" button so I can use it on your post.

Keep your robotic thoughts to yourself.

There is no ground for a lawsuit. Even those chosen are told that being selected doesn't guarantee that you will get a visa. The people involved are not USC's or even resident in the US no rights have been trampled on and no laws have been broken.

No laws have been broken, but what about dreams and aspirations that have been broken? What about money and effort that have been lost?

It's obvious there's something not right going on here. I'd be surprised if nobody sued the Department of State. I'm sure anyone who sues them would win. It's an unacceptable horrendous mistake.

If so, why is that Work Experience in a qualified job can replace such high school degree? I think it's because it proves the applicant has an even higher qualification.

Anyway, I've sent them an email about that.

I've received an email from the US embassy here in Cairo.

Here it is:

From Consular, Cairo IV (ConsularCairoIV@state.gov)

Please note that the University degree is considered as enough proof of education.

Regards,

Consular Section

US Embassy Cairo

ES

So, whoever said that was correct. No need for the high school diploma.

Can somebody please explain how only 22,000 were selected? From what I've read, 100,000 were selected, and only the first 50,000 who send in their applications will actually be granted the green card.

Thanks all for all your replies.

My dad is not that old actually. He's 58 and he's still working as a physician.

Anyway, the results have been voided, which is ridiculous and stupid, so it doesn't matter anymore. I don't think we're going to win again, as we've been applying for 20 years, and this was our first time.

Thank you America for your stupid mistakes.

Regards.

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Thanks for the link, but I don't understand how 22,000 only were selected. Weren't there around 100,000 candidates selected?

This is ridiculous. My father has been applying for 20 years, and now when he wins, it's invalid! How unfair is this? We've spent a whole week preparing the papers before sending them. And only God knows how exhausting the process was for us. I have no idea how such error could happen. It all seems fishy. And if such error really happened, where were they when the numbers selected were released? They realized there was such a monstrous error 2 weeks after the date of selection. How incompetent is that?

I understand their concern about the fairness of the process, but this is an unjustifiable error that has destroyed our - and many others' - long-lived dream. I don't think we can win again.

Seriously, somebody should sue them for that.

So you dont know it for a fact then? You're making an assumption, right?

A degree is not equivalent to a high school education at all. They are 2 completely different things. You are misinterpreting the word "equivalent". You must have an education "equivalent to high school in the USA". Equivalent means "the same as", not "better than".

I agree with you that a degree is "more advanced" than doing 12 years at school, but the requirement is not that one must have "school education or better". The requirement is that one "must have completed 12 years at school". You must prove that you've done school, not something else, even it can be regarded as "better". Having a degree implies that you've probably done school, but it is not absolute proof thereof, as one may sometimes get into university via other means even though you did not complete school.

If so, why is that Work Experience in a qualified job can replace such high school degree? I think it's because it proves the applicant has an even higher qualification.

Anyway, I've sent them an email about that.

Thanks..

Are you sure?

For the DV interview, documents to prove DV Qualifying Education or Work Experience is required (see here). As to the qualifying education part, does it have to be a high school certificate or would a higher degree like (Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery) be ok? I'm asking because my father's high school certificate is lost (he's quite old) and he only has his medical degree. He's the one applying for the DV, by the way.

If a high school certificate is required, would a work experience certificate be ok instead?

I'd appreciate your help.

Thank you.

Thanks all!

You've been more than helpful.

Thanks hananmcclarty for your reply,

Both my mother and father were selected for further processing.

The point I'm dying to know is that I'm over 21 and unmarried. Do I need to fill the form? and will I be granted a green card?

Hello all!

Both my father and mother were selected for further processing in the diversity visa program. I have some questions about parts I find confusing in the DS-0230 form. I'd appreciate it if you helped me.

The form mentions "Complete one copy of this form for yourself and each member of your family, regardless of age, who will immigrate with you.".

1) Here, does my father's application need to include a copy for my mother's and vice versa (note both were selected for further processing in this DV lottery) ?

2) They have 2 children, one is 20, and one is 24. Does each of my parents' application need to include copies for both of their children or only for the one who's under 21? Note that the form says "regardless of age", while there's a note in the instructions website that says such eligible child is a one who's under 21.

3) Are the birth dates of the father and mother of the applicant necessary? Because we're having trouble finding those out. It was a long time ago!

4) "Person(s) named in 14 and 29 who will accompany you to the United States now." - again, can this include a child who's over 21?

5) "Person(s) named in 14 and 29 who will follow you to the United States at a later date." - what's the difference between this statement from the above mentioned one? And can this include a child who's over 21?

6) I've heard it's possible to send this form and form DSP-122 by email rather than mail. Is that really possible? and how?

7) Also, is it OK if I send all forms for both applications of my father and mother in one envelope? Since the addresses are the same (the one I'm sending to, and ours).

Please... I need your urgent help!!

Need to send in the forms tomorrow in the morning!

Thank you very much in advance!