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Yep, or copy of passport.

Thanks guys. I appreciate it.

it's asking for joint's sponsor information, your FIL

if there's anything for sponsor then it would be your wife.

Thanks for the prompt reply. So they are asking for copy of birth certificate for my FIL, right?

Hi VJ Members,

I got RFE for I-485 today. It says:

x- The joint sponsor on Form-I864, must be a US citizen, US National or LPR of US.

"Submit evidence of Joint sponsor's status"

I sent my petitioner's (my USC wife's)copy of birth certificate but for some reason forgot to sent my joint sponsor's (FIL) copy of birth certificate.

I just wanted to double check with VJ that my RFE is asking for my FIL's birth certificate. Could anyone please help me?

Thanks.

Yes, in a situation with a joint tax return, state only the sponsor's income and use a complete tax return with W2 forms to document the individual income. For your second question, obviously I already gave you my opinion on it. If it were a problem, I wouldn't have recommended it.

Thank you so much. I really appreciate your replies.

Yes, your FIL should provide an I-864 in addition to one from your wife. This is because as head of household, only an I-864 will properly count HIS household size. In this case, income is NOT combined.

Thank you for the reply pushbrk. Just making sure to double check. Since, my in laws filed joint tax return and my FIL's income is enough to sponsor, can I separate FIL's income only from tax return and use that and attach his W2's as an evidence?

I hope the same household member filling out i864 instead of i864A won't be a problem. What's your opinion on it?

I have got some suggestions on this but I wanted to make sure with other VJ members.

This is my scenario:

I want to give a small background so both of us are on the same page:

I am on F1 visa. I married a US citizen on December of 2010. Right now both of us have been living with my in-laws until we stand on our feet financially. My USC wife doesn't have enough income so my father-in-law is willing to sponsor me along with my wife. My USC wife is filling out i864 and my father-in law is filling out i864A. My FIL makes well enough to support me and is well above the poverty guideline. ($90k/year income)

In the house there are 4 members: My in-laws, myself and my wife who is a US citizen.

MY QUESTION:

1. In i864 Part 5-section 21 g, do I have to include my mother-in law as well who is NOT combining her income but is living in the same residence? Because in that section it says : If you have siblings, parents, or adult children with the same principal residence who are COMBINING their income with yours by submitting Form I-864A, enter the number here." Only my father-in law is combining his income so I was thinking of putting "1" in that box.

This is how my section 21 looks now:

21 a: "1" (for myself)

21 b: "1" (for my USC wife)

21 c: "None" (because I am already counted in 21 a)

21 g: "1" (for my FIL who is combining his income and filling out i864A)

Total: "3" BUT we have 4 people living in the house. The household size is not correct.

2. Is it ok if my FIL fills out i864 instead of i864A even though he is living in the same house?

Thank you so much.

I think I found my answer in this forum: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/238193-i-864-household-size-question/

The first reply from Anhmap is what I was planning to do.

Oh, I see. You do not need to include your MIL's income but you do need to count her somewhere because she is in your FIL's house. This is why using the I-864A gets confusing. If your FIL qualifies on his own for 3 people (himself, his wife, and you) even if you live together it is better to fill out I-864 for him. You can say you are two separate household living under the same roof if you so wish (you and your wife, FIL and MIL). You wife will fill out I-864 and you'd have a co-sponsor, FIL who qualifies on his own for 3 people and fills out I-864 as well. If he doesn't qualify on his own, then I'd have to read over the form carefully so see where you count your MIL. Let us know if he qualifies on his own?

Since 4 of us live in the same house and only my FIL is combining his income, I preferred to go with my wife i864 and FIL i864A format. My FIL makes around $90k a year, so I am thinking he qualifies. Since, my MIL is not combining her income and not filling out i864A is it correct to include her in 21 g? This is how my section 21 looks now:

21 a: "1" (for myself)

21 b: "1" (for my USC wife)

21 c: "None" (because I am already counted in 21 a)

21 g: "1" (for my FIL who is combining his income and filling out i864A)

Total: "3" BUT we have 4 people living in the house.

Your mother in law is a part of you father in law's house, so he needs to include her in the household count and you will need to have over the poverty line for 4 people. If your father in law qualifies on his own, you can choose to have him fill out the I-864 (not the I-864a) and he would need to qualify on his own for 3 people. Good luck.

Hi Harpa,

I want to give a small background so both of us are on the same page:

I am on F1 visa. I married a US citizen on December of 2010. Right now both of us have been living with my in-laws until we stand on our feet financially. My USC wife doesn't have enough income so my father-in-law is willing to sponsor me along with my wife. My USC wife is filling out i864 and my father-in law is filling out i864A. My FIL makes well enough to support me and is well above the poverty guideline.

In the house there are 4 members: My in-laws, myself and my wife who is a US citizen.

NOW BACK TO MY QUESTION:

In i864 Part 5-section 21 g, do I have to include my mother-in law as well who is NOT combining her income but is living in the same residence? Because in that section it says : If you have siblings, parents, or adult children with the same principal residence who are COMBINING their income with yours by submitting Form I-864A, enter the number here." Only my father-in law is combining his income so I was thinking of putting "1" in that box.

Hi VJ members,

I have one last minute questions before sending out the AOS package. In i864 Part 5-section 21 g, do I have to include my mother-in law as well who is NOT sponsoring me but is living in the same residence? My father-in law is my sponsor (he filled out i864A) along with my USC wife who is filling out i864.

4 of us live in the same house.

Thanks.

You're right. They should update it. I just reread the I-485 instructions too. Good luck.

Thank you Harpa. I appreciate your answers. Your Green card came in around 3 months huh...Good for you.

We only put one copy for the whole thing. I don't see where you need a copy for the i-485. Read the instructions. Good luck.

Yeah, the instruction for i130 asks for a copy of marriage certificate but i485 doesn't. I got confused after reading the VJ guide. I hope the mod updates the guide.

You only need ONE photocopy. You don't need to send certified copies of anything; the VJ guides should be updated.

Thank you Harpa. With which form package should I put the marriage certificate? i130 or i485?

i would like to know this as well. we are going through the list and there are a couple items that are repeated for the 485 and the 130. Im thinking err on the side of caution and give them a copy for each and treat them as separate applications.

Do you already have two certified copies? I have only one. I don't want to order another one cause I just ordered 2, one for USCIS and one for my wife's new passport.

If I had two certified copies, I would have sent both each with i130 and i485, just to be on the safe side.

Dear VJ members,

I am filing i-130 and i-485 concurrently. The VJ guide says we need 2 copies of certified marriage certificate; one for i-130 and one for i-485. But is it enough if I include only one certified copy with i-130 and just the plain copy with i-485? I don't want to go to the city hall and wait to get another copy.

Thanks.

Congrats to new approvals and progress!!

Not sure what they did, but we just sent in regular photocopies of the USC's birth certificate, and that was fine for us. We brought the original to the interview in case they wanted it.

Thank you and congratulations LlamaInvasion for expecting baby boy. Your AOS took around 3 months huh... that was quick.

D/S.

Thanks once again.

Hi I am a F-1 student married to USC. On i485 Part 1 under "Expires on" what date should I put? There is no date in my i94 card. It says D/S (Duration of Stay). Should I just write D/S under "Expires on" or should I write my I-20 expiration date?

Please help.

Thanks.

Plain copy. Good luck.

Thanks man. That was quick.

We will be sending out ours very soon. Who's with us?

Marriage Certificate from Vegas should be in any day this week.

Did you send the certified copy of Birth Certificate for US citizen or just the plain copy?

Thank you.

Hi VJ members,

I was wondering if we need a certified copy of birth certificate for i-130 form. Can I just make the plain copy of the original instead of going through the process of ordering a certified copy?

Thanks.

What process are you trying to accomplish? This forum is for AOS from K-1 or K-3 visas, and you have F-1 in your profile. Are you trying to AOS from your student visa? If so, NVC does not come into play.

Oh sorry. I didn't realize that. Thanks for clarifying. I thought this forum was for AOS. Thanks once again.

Read the instructions carefully! All the civil documents requested with the I-130 are _copies_. If they want an original they'll ask. You'll need originals at the consular stage (ie interview or NVC)

Don't forget to have your spouse sign their G-325A. Lots-o-forms get bounced for this common error.

Any form with a signature must be the original.

Thanks for the reply Alex. I wanted to double check and make sure. This might be a dumb question but I wanted to ask if I will be mailing the documents for NVC or I will be doing walk-in interview where I can take my documents. The reason I am asking this is because if I have to mail birth certificate during NVC, I will have to order a certified copy BUT if I just walk-in I can take the original I have.

Thanks.

Hi VJ members,

I was wondering if we need a certified copy of birth certificate for i-130 form. Can I just make the plain copy of the original instead of going through the process of ordering a certified copy?

Thanks.

You are the lone immigrant in this scenario. So that is a "Yes."

If it's just MIL and FIL in the house with you two then Dad doing the 864A ought to be cool. Just wanting to see you present the clearest picture so that the IO feels comfortable.

Anh map thank you. You bring Visa journey to life