litlmina

Well geez, not a one of you with an RFE has a timeline to figure out where you are. So guessing....I think you are new K1 entrants who saw a civil surgeon this year (2013). The date of medical examination to which your RFE is referring, is the date you saw a civil surgeon, not the visa exam. Since a new form dated Jan 2013 is available, then I would use it. There was a gap between the form being ready and the end of the old form so they issued memorada to adjudicators and civil surgeons telling them the 2011 form would be used until the new form was ready and would have an overlap period where both were accepted. I forgot the dates. Anyway, the form name in the lower left hand corner of the 2013 version has a "Y" which means, yes the previous version is still accepted.
Another reason for wishing you had timelines...I wonder if this RFE came early or if you are 5-6 months in. It does sound like somebody at USCIS is confused that the 2011 version is not still accepted, which it is. That's all I have to offer, not knowing your timelines, visa, etc.

I have no dog in this fight so don't care what you do one way or the other. But if you think you are not cheating the system, you are deluding us or perhaps yourself. You and your fiancee signed a letter of intent that says you will marry within 90 days, not that you will see how it goes when you live together. Now some people do get together and change their minds or something happens within the 90 days but this does not seem to be the case here. You filed with the intention to live together before marriage. I'm no immigration lawyer but it sounds fraudulent to me.
And people are pissed because the K1 process is long and hard for precisely these sort of reasons - that some people try to circumvent the system.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but the more you post the clearer it appears that your methodology is not within the spirit of the K1.
Just sayin'...

First of all when you post on a public forum you are exposing yourself to the world's opinions. You can't expect that some of us wouldn't respond to you're post in a negative way. I did try helping in my last post but what you two did was cheat the system plain and simple. So ya you're gonna have to hear it from some of us that it offends.
Second of all I'm not invested in what you or your gf do at all but I am invested when it affects me or others who are desperately trying to get through this god awful long process of K1 Visa!

Well there is a big grown up response.
Along with the "we didn't wanna wait for the tourist visa" leads others to believe "so we just filed the fiance visa knowing we weren't gonna get married".
Seems you don't really need any answers because they aren't going to fit what you have already known all this time.
And they won't change. Way to work the system.
And as has been stated in the past, it's you that makes it harder on others in these processes.
This process is a serious process for some, and those that are just using it to "take a joyride" "test the waters" "drive the car before I buy it", actually harm the process for others.
So don't get your feelings hurt when someone calls you out.

Not passing judgement, but he was asking these same types of questions in Nov 2012. Joined Nov 10, 2012 and this is first post.
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/399160-what-are-the-consequences-of-not-marrying-your-fiance/
So, I am thinking he has been pondering this longer than the 90 days.

Really?
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/399160-what-are-the-consequences-of-not-marrying-your-fiance/

You cannot have her come LATER on a tourist visa, then get married, and then attempt to adjust status based on that marriage. If you're thinking you can, I don't understand your reasoning.
On a tourist visa: she could get married but would have to leave the USA and wait in Spain while you file a brand-new CR-1 process, including the 8-12 month wait for that. She cannot stay in the USA because she would have immigrant intent, and that is violating the terms of her tourist visa, it will lead to fraud charges and a lifetime ban on entry into the USA.
On the K-1: you must marry within 90 days. That's it. If you don't marry within 90 days on the K-1, you cannot adjust her status to legal residency afterwards.
Marriage within 90 days or go home, most likely forever since a second K-1 would prove difficult.
I've seen several of these threads now and I have to admit I'm running out of patience/empathy for the posters. If you wanted to "get to know her" that was NOT a reason to file the K-1, as the K-1 specifically leads to marriage. I also feel very badly for her, if this is your unilateral decision that is majorly impacting her life and legal status.

I think some posters above (leave and have the AP sent over) are missing one quite important point - USCIS uses airline departure data to check whether AOS have been abandoned. Sending AP if issued after departure is going to be pointless.

GOOD GOD Do you guys think anyone from USCIS has actually read any of these letters?! Are they written by robots? They are totally ambiguous. "This is a letter to tell you about a letter we may or may not have sent you about the interview you may or may not need to have on February 14th... BUT, maybe we mailed you your green card or another document which may or may not have been approved!! This perhaps corresponds with a status report on our website that we don't really know anything about, although you might want to look at it, because the information on the site may or not be correct and will tell you what to do. or not do. Welcome to America!"

I'm sure everyone can distinguish your words and my words (on style and grammar alone), especially in the context of a message board. That's what the "quote" feature does - it means everything in the green box was written by the username at the top.
Your caricature of women as attention-seeking flirts is insulting, and claiming that is their "nature" perpetuates a standard that has been used to discriminate against women for ages. I've barely touched on the fact that you are insinuating that victims of domestic violence are in that position because they didn't "do a good enough job" of bending to the whims of their abusers. His jealousy = his problem. Victim blaming is EXTREMELY detrimental, and if you want to call that "bashing," then, yes, you have "bashed" a group of people who have been abused and terrorized.
The OP was verbally abused. How badly, we don't know. But when she finally stood up to him, you accused her of not being "dependable."
Some people's opinions are racist. Some are homophobic. And some are mysoginistic, whether they are followed with the "IMHO" qualifier or not.

This kind of "woman blaming" is part of what reinforces the gender inequality we see in our society AND Latin cultures.
HUMANS are naturally flirty creatures. HUMANS seek attention. The MEN in Latin cultures are usually the initiators of flirting, especially in the OP's experience (catcalling on the street). Regardless, flirting usually goes both ways. To label women as seductive temptresses is offensive and mysoginistic.
OP, it sounds like you have been a victim of abuse. This is how things start - overly "jealous" men who like to control the women they are with. He was trying to CONTROL your actions - first, through his words, and once that failed, maybe through his actions.
I applaud you for being brave enough to buy him a ticket home, and I'm aghast that people fault you for getting out of a bad situation. The minute my partner abuses me in ANY way in my home, that ceases to be his home. Unfortunately, we have been conditioned to "victim blame" in our society, ie, "her skirt was so short, she was asking for it."
My own heritage is not American, and I am familiar with multiple cultures. It is not okay, in any culture, or any country, for your partner to control you and verbally abuse you. My heart goes out to you, and please know that you deserve a relationship built on mutual respect and TRUST.
Of course, you can't just turn off your love for him like a lightswitch, and it must be difficult to be alone after being together for so long. I hope that when (if) he comes back to the States, he will stick with the counseling. It sounds like you need a little time apart, and when (if) you start talking about him coming back again, you will see a change in him and will set firm boundaries. We don't know all the details of your relationship and if things crossed a line or not, but hopefully by making a commitment to work things out with a third party you can enjoy the happiness you felt in the beginning of your marriage.

This would probably be the amount of info I'd give in a short but precise description. If you have a few pictures(not 50) submit them to support your initial evidence(passport stamps) and your description of meeting. The dates are most important because the support your passport stamps in when you actually met, and that you met within the last 2 years. Pictures tell emotions better than words, even if you're just sitting there smiling in each other's company.

Same letters sent about VSC several years ago, then it was CSC that was "evil", now it's VSC again.
Family immigration is way down the political radar list.
Best course of action is to readjust your expectations and not allow yourself to become unduly stressed.

And FYI, AOS does not come immediately after marriage. The only requirement is to get married within 90 days. There is no requirement to file AOS within the 90 days. It is definitely recommended, but not a requirement to adjust status.

I don't want to get into it. It's common sense that if he never gets here, and there is no marriage, and there is no adjustment of status, I-864 is a moot point. It's almost like giving her advice on removing conditions or filing for citizenship. Cant put the cart before he horse if you will.

That is exactly what I said. I-864 is legally binding, I-134 is not. Read it again.

You and only you, know how your BF is...
It's very interesting that he hasn't had his interview yet, and is acting that way.. Seems pretty arrogant..
The fact is; love is blind, nobody can say anything that you dont already know.. Just remember, if he gets here and you submit the I864 (Affidavit of Support) on his behalf, you're stuck no matter what.. Ask yourself if you feel confident enough in him to sign up for that kind of responsibilty potentially for the rest of your life..
Put asside the heebee jeebees and the butterflies and the romantic memories and think clearly for a bit, then be honest with yourself and make a descission and stick to it..
You gotta be carefull with someone that arrogant at this stage of the game..

Accurate?? Look here
It is accurate, it was not meant to be funny. How does that qualify to be unfair?
Here is a quote from USCIS
The United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) reports that “…marriages arranged through [mail order bride] services would appear to have a lower divorce rate than the nation as a whole, fully 80 percent of these marriages having lasted over the years for which reports are available.” The USCIS also reports that “… mail-order bride and e-mail correspondence services result in 4,000 to 6,000 marriages between U.S. men and foreign brides each year.”

I wish folks would keep their preaching to themselves or in their closets.
I'm headed to see Susan next month so I'm focusing on that instead of the K1 which may or may not happen this year the way Vermont is going.

he didn't "assume", genius. he asked, and was told yes.

Listen sir, before you rush into judgements you need to know that we clearly stated that she is not a US citizen. The medicaid worker called us and asked us to fax whatever documents we have and she will find out what she can do and if there is anything available for people in our situtation. Few days later we found out that she approved us. We don't know the law. All what we do is apply, be honest, and that's what we did. The decision was made by her not us.... so it was her mistake not ours. The only way I found out was when I went online to add my new born baby to the household. That is when I found out a check mark has been placed next to my wife being a citizen.
Luckily, the medicaid account still shows the original application that we submitted, and it clearly say NOOOOOOOOOO to the question asking about my wife being a citizen..
DID YOU GET IT???? PLEASE BE HELPFUL OR JUST STAY SILENT

Since we don't know what really happened, we can only speculate. It would be unwise to make any calls based on hearsay.

M J
we all make errors... but we also do good... finding Visa Journey is your "good" ... Theres a wealth of info at your fingertips here. Start reviewing the site, the forums, the Portals, and eventually ( with time spent) you will get that grasp on all u need to do... Lots of people to help you all along... Sorry for your delay... Rule #1... Never figure... Its the government agencies you will be dealing with, they need everyhthing exacting
best of Luck to you... will anxiously wait an see how fast u progress on here
Ed of ( Ed & Loida)
PS... when people send u links instead of answers, dont be mad to them... the answers there , and other answers to questions you will have too... ( I speak from experience) >>>

No you don't count. It's her, the brother ('cause hes on the tax return) and your husband so 3.
nowhere near enough. http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf is where the income requirements are. $23,862 is what sshe needs for her household size. Seeing she only earnt $16K if she wants to use assets (bank balance, property etc) then she will need to show five times the missing amount. So she's around $8000 under, $8K x 5 = $40K in assets.
You need to provide your OWN I-864 and supporting documentation.

This kind of "woman blaming" is part of what reinforces the gender inequality we see in our society AND Latin cultures.
HUMANS are naturally flirty creatures. HUMANS seek attention. The MEN in Latin cultures are usually the initiators of flirting, especially in the OP's experience (catcalling on the street). Regardless, flirting usually goes both ways. To label women as seductive temptresses is offensive and mysoginistic.
OP, it sounds like you have been a victim of abuse. This is how things start - overly "jealous" men who like to control the women they are with. He was trying to CONTROL your actions - first, through his words, and once that failed, maybe through his actions.
I applaud you for being brave enough to buy him a ticket home, and I'm aghast that people fault you for getting out of a bad situation. The minute my partner abuses me in ANY way in my home, that ceases to be his home. Unfortunately, we have been conditioned to "victim blame" in our society, ie, "her skirt was so short, she was asking for it."
My own heritage is not American, and I am familiar with multiple cultures. It is not okay, in any culture, or any country, for your partner to control you and verbally abuse you. My heart goes out to you, and please know that you deserve a relationship built on mutual respect and TRUST.
Of course, you can't just turn off your love for him like a lightswitch, and it must be difficult to be alone after being together for so long. I hope that when (if) he comes back to the States, he will stick with the counseling. It sounds like you need a little time apart, and when (if) you start talking about him coming back again, you will see a change in him and will set firm boundaries. We don't know all the details of your relationship and if things crossed a line or not, but hopefully by making a commitment to work things out with a third party you can enjoy the happiness you felt in the beginning of your marriage.