Hicham♥Sara

Yes that is correct. We both were married to the wrong person for us, before. But we don't go through experiences like that without learning something, and it makes us appreciate what we have even more.

You would think that they would be more helpful too, saying hey this is suspect, so before we send it to the consulate do you want to explain more?
But it is a game, without published rules. A gauntlet.

We did have a red flag. A red flag that was addressed in the petition, and that needed explanation from him during the interview. SO what makes me so very very angry is that anytime that the CO would ask him a question, before he could finish his thought, or even sentences, he was cut off rudely. This is extremely unfair and unjust. If she had a question about his intentions, give the man a chance to explain himself in this one time that you are going to sit down and talk to him. Some of the questions she asked needed him to answer beyond the first few words of someone's thoughts. For example the question of "Do you only like talking to American Women?" The beginning of his answer: "well no, I have talked to Moroccan, French, and Tunisian ..... The rest of his answer: But I do like American women more because we have the same interests, like country music and classic rock music, and I love English because that is what I studied in school and I would listen to a lot of American music to learn this. " A brief history about my Sweet Bread is that he did study English in HS and speaks it pretty well, His favorite band is Rascal Flatts, (Which is one of mine as well, something we bonded over) his favorite song is Hotel California, and he loves a lot of old classic rock and so do I because my mom was a huge fan and I grew up listening to that, in fact my name Sara comes from Fleetwood Mac, my sister Emmiline's name comes from Fleetwood Mac and my daughter Rhiannon is named after Fleetwood Mac.The man loves Kenny Roger's for God's sake! I don't actually but good grief who else can he talk to about these things and would relate to him. Hicham and I are both musicians, him a violinist, and me a vocalist, and I used to dream of being a country music singer, studied opera and many other things. He loves shows like America's Got Talent, America's Funniest Home Video's and Lost, and haha Bridezilla's because people like us love watching hot mess TV sometimes LOL. What is wrong with him finding blonde hair and blue eyes to be the most attractive ( how many times I can't even count he has said "I hope our baby has your blue eyes" and I have to burst his bubble with a Punnett Square) Is all of that bad? No. It's not. Just like it's not bad for me as an American to be attracted to brown boys. (lol) be obsessed with Bollywood and world fashions. Is this bad? No!!
But I know what that can look like on the surface..... which is why I SAY LET THE MAN SPEAK.
I know that Morocco is a high fraud country. I am aware of what the Consulate website says about the signs of fraud. I have also been a part of this forum and others for years now ( Remember, we have been together for almost 4.5 years) and I know what people have gone through and what to look for. In no way would I ever stand for anything short of awesome. I had my OWN tests. For example, I was freshly separated from my cheating husband by a few months when I met Hicham. In our early conversations I of course, being transparent as he was with me about his previous relationships, told him that here in my state of Virginia I have to be separated for at least 1 year before I can even start the process for filing for a divorce. It took me longer than a year. 4 1/2 years later we are still going strong. I didn't go into this kind of relationship lightly. Who does when it is this kind of long distance/ multicultural relationship? You can't read these forums and be completely naive to what goes on. Hicham is an honorable man, and never has done anything to lead me or my family and friends to believe otherwise. We are not legally married in Morocco because he is the kind of person who is so honest that he will not do anything that is not 100% legit to get things done ( which is why we didn't do what you COULD do in Morocco to get things done, Morocco people know exactly what I am talking about) I stand by him and his moral judgement because he deserves this kind of respect and honor. He has been absolutely wonderful to me and my girls as much as one possibly can across the ocean via the internet. It feels like home when I am with him in Morocco. I see God's love for me through him. The way he took care of my kids when we were there last year, was icing on the cake. We ARE family. Paper or no paper, our level of commitment to each other is that of Husband and Wife. We made a promise before God to love each other forever. I am beside myself right now thinking about all the things that I will have to go through if I can't fight this and have to find a way to get over there again, between my job taking care of children in my home, going to school at night, and the worst, having to leave my children behind because I was blessed to be able to take them last year. We are absolutely heart broken and completely overwhelmed coming up with solutions. Why on Earth would this woman think it is a better idea to ask a single mother and a man who makes at best 300 US Dollars a month at a job in his country, come up with more money, for more trips, for more running around with the Moroccan Government Paper Trail for Marriage (YIPEE!) more money for another petition and all the things that have to go along with it.....instead of at the very least having a real conversation with someone about what the heck is up. Or call me and talk to ME , cause I promise I know him better than she does. :'(
UGH!
Dear God, USCIS, Department of Homeland Security, Casablanca Consulate, please give us our Sweet Break /Chikin Nugget. :'( Sincerely, Sweet Cookie, Chikin Nuggets, and Cuppycake.

We are devastated.
Letter to my Senator, I will share with you all:
May 9th, 2914
To The Office Of Senator Tim Kaine,
This letter is in regards to the request for Immigration Congressional Inquiry.
My Fiance Hicham El Amri was denied a K-1 Visa at the Consulate in Casablanca Morocco. This decision is detrimental to our family, as we have been together for over 4 years, with 4 visits, including the last visit with my daughters Cheyenne and Rhiannon. Our wish was to marry during this trip with my daughters to be a part of it. Due to the inefficiency of the Moroccan government in obtaining all the necessary papers for this, we were unable to get married in Morocco. I requested that he be granted a K-1 Visa so that we could marry here in the United States in a much more efficient way that would not require me to take another 3-4 week trip which is a time-frame required to make a marriage happen in Morocco. I do not want to do this without my children being there. We are a family, and instead of using the internet as a way to communicate with Hicham, he should be by our side. I request that the petition stay in the consulate in Morocco and that Hicham be given a 2nd interview, or I be contacted for an interview. I provided more evidence than required to prove that we have a bona fide relationship, as well as all of the required documents and The USCIS has determined that we are eligible for this visa. I appreciate the work of the work of the USCIS and all those at the Consulate who handled our case but I do believe this decision made by the Consular Officer in Casablanca, was made in error, as it is a huge let down by my government to be sent on the path of a much longer wait to be together as a family, as well as the financial strain and time away from my children, work and my schooling, to marry in Morocco instead. When Hicham was denied his visa he was given no reason for denial or even acknowledged with courtesy when he greeted, and departed from the consular officer. I have also not been informed of the reason for denial, and I am requesting to have access to this information as well. I appreciate all the time and efforts given to me by the Senator’s office and all of those who take the time to acknowledge this inquiry.

We are devastated.
Letter to my Senator, I will share with you all:
May 9th, 2914
To The Office Of Senator Tim Kaine,
This letter is in regards to the request for Immigration Congressional Inquiry.
My Fiance Hicham El Amri was denied a K-1 Visa at the Consulate in Casablanca Morocco. This decision is detrimental to our family, as we have been together for over 4 years, with 4 visits, including the last visit with my daughters Cheyenne and Rhiannon. Our wish was to marry during this trip with my daughters to be a part of it. Due to the inefficiency of the Moroccan government in obtaining all the necessary papers for this, we were unable to get married in Morocco. I requested that he be granted a K-1 Visa so that we could marry here in the United States in a much more efficient way that would not require me to take another 3-4 week trip which is a time-frame required to make a marriage happen in Morocco. I do not want to do this without my children being there. We are a family, and instead of using the internet as a way to communicate with Hicham, he should be by our side. I request that the petition stay in the consulate in Morocco and that Hicham be given a 2nd interview, or I be contacted for an interview. I provided more evidence than required to prove that we have a bona fide relationship, as well as all of the required documents and The USCIS has determined that we are eligible for this visa. I appreciate the work of the work of the USCIS and all those at the Consulate who handled our case but I do believe this decision made by the Consular Officer in Casablanca, was made in error, as it is a huge let down by my government to be sent on the path of a much longer wait to be together as a family, as well as the financial strain and time away from my children, work and my schooling, to marry in Morocco instead. When Hicham was denied his visa he was given no reason for denial or even acknowledged with courtesy when he greeted, and departed from the consular officer. I have also not been informed of the reason for denial, and I am requesting to have access to this information as well. I appreciate all the time and efforts given to me by the Senator’s office and all of those who take the time to acknowledge this inquiry.

My sugar muffin honey bunny Moroccan husband remains decidedly lovable. Our 7th anniversary is coming up, and we plan on making it as saccharine an affair as possible. Or maybe just go to the beach.

im half moroccan and married to the love of my life from morocco we have been married for almost 5 years this june and have know him for almost 8 years we have a great relationship and of course we have our moments but communication is key!!!!

Been together for nine years, married for 4 years. He became a citizen last year and he's still hanging around. I guess we must be doing something right

Call me crazy, but I think you are making a big mistake by airing your intentions on a public forum, with your names and pictures attached. If you are not wise enough to see that being this open about the possibility of perjuring yourself here is a bad idea...then you probably aren't going to be able to successfully pull off this ridiculous scheme of "let me bring this man to the States (because I feel bad for him) and then let him run loose and I'll say it just didn't work out". I know you feel bad for the man, but if he's not someone you LOVE enough to marry, then don't commit fraud to bring him to the States as your fiancé.

One trip to morocco, eight,days.... I'm sorry, you both really needed more face to face time before jumping into a marriage.

I came across this thread and I am almost at a loss for words. But I think I can dig some up. This situation just does not seem right. Whether this is a troll, a joke, or for real... First of all, with English like that, how are you even able to communicate with your wife? If you can't keep your story straight here on this public forum, surely you could not keep a straight story with the CO. It is very confusing to me, how you can go into an interview like this, when there are people like me, who are feeling so intimidated by the Moroccan Consulate because of craziness like this. Yes, I said it, ANTA MAJNOON. أنت مجنون. I usually don't comment, but wow to think that Hicham has to face a CO who holds much skepticism because of this.. it makes me want to cry =*(

Only thing you have to worry about them keeping is the passport. Casablanca consulate doesn't keep a passport unless they're going to do something with it- with very few exceptions. Congrats

If you like, he can also do the same and you could make over $120,000 driving together. Can't beat that!!!

Squeaky is right and is giving good advice in this thread. Rather than taking the advice of members who are fortunate enough not to have experience with Casablanca, I'd suggest using the search tool to look at the archives of the MENA regional forum, and read up on the consulate reviews in the portal. I have read posts and reviews from members whose Moroccan SO's have been criticized for attempting to get to the US on a tourist visa before trying on a K-1 or CR-1. Those members have said the CO's accused their SO's of only caring about trying to get into the US. When the SO's responded that they wanted the tourist visa for the purpose of visiting the petitioning USC fiancee or spouse, the CO's reportedly laughed or suggested they didn't buy it.
I don't know how much clearer I can be. It is not a risk I would ever take, personally, even though I feel for the OP's situation. I'm not really sure why some members feel so confident about doling out damaging advice without any experience with Casablanca, but, at least the correct information is out there.

Just out of curiousity, are the rules different or the same for each consulate?
If the rules are different or stricter in any way, would it not be the advise of those that have been through, dealt with, and cried over this particular consulate be the most accurate? Just curious cause maybe I am missing something that discredits the people who have been there and done that with Casa.
Directly to the OP Watch the videos on youtube for the Casablanca consulate, the chief consulate explains exactly in detail what someone needs to get a tourist visa. I am sorry , but it is really hard , even with strong ties. You practically have to be anchored with a tether. She burst my bubbles hardcore on those videos cause she is very blunt and to the point. However , this is the reality of Casa.
Some other advice, maybe you can go on vacation over there with a family member, my uncle ( practically my dad) came to meet Hicham, even if it is one person, it's a nice feeling having someone else see for themselves
God Bless and remember LOVE is patient even if we are not
Sara

Oops, I mean to respond to this part, too. Just speaking as someone whose relationship is still in the relatively early stages, I have found threads like these helpful in the past, and I continue posting in them because I think they may be helpful for some other members the way they were helpful to me.
Partly they're helpful for immigration reasons: I want to hear every possible attack on a relationship like mine before I file and before he interviews so I'll have the strongest defense and so I won't get surprised later on.
As for the emotional side of things, I've long since made up my mind on my SO and our relationship, but back when I first started hearing about this whole Moroccan scam thing I tried to learn everything I could about it. Threads like this one are just what I'd want to know. I wanted to go in with my eyes wide open. I guess I'm of the "whatever doesn't kill you, makes you stronger" school of thought. I'm not sure how to word it, but I'd rather know every bad story and bad statistic out there and have reasons that make sense to me why I feel like they don't apply to me. If I were hiding in a corner with my eyes closed and my hands over my ears singing, "La la la la la I can't hear you," to me that would mean I'm still insecure about some aspect of my relationship and I should slow things down before proceeding. If I can stand there and hear it all and have sympathy for the victims but not defensiveness, then I sleep better in my own relationship and I feel better prepared to one day face the consulate. I'm totally not trying to say at all that everyone thinks like me or anything, but I WILL say that I have DEFINITELY seen PLENTY of posts on various forums where new users read a thread like this and say they never knew Moroccans had such a reputation. THAT seems so dangerous to me! I'm not saying that means her man is a scammer and she's a sucker by any stretch, but it makes my heart sink when I see women going forward with an expensive long-distance relationship and even starting a visa process when they've never even heard that a hidden agenda could be a problem, or they think it's just a few bad apples but statistically a slim possibility. I have to believe that threads like these help some women. Maybe they're in denial when they first read them, but maybe a thread like this stays in the back of their mind and later they might be less likely to miss a warning sign.
Just my long-winded way of saying that for me, personally, these threads used to bother me early on in my relationship in a way that I felt like I had to if not conquer then at least face; they no longer bother me; and I think it would benefit a lot of people to at least have the negative info out there for them to consider. I guess I also just really don't see how or why it can hurt to hear. Maybe the negativity just affects us all differently. From my perspective, divorce stories don't really make me doubt my relationship any more than success stories make me more secure. (They are fuzzy, though. )

Fo sho I would understAnd when u use the word "man"....! Ur the cooliest chica!

Because of course MENA men are all secretly terrorists Can't just be straight up scum bag users, nope, cuz they're muslim, they're out to get us.
OP, so sorry to hear this. On the plus side, it looks like he screwed himself by leaving too soon. I'll keep you in my duas that what is best will happen for you

Not to give the impression that I live in the Land of Oz, because I certainly am aware of the scamming men from both Morocco and Egypt (where my fiance is from), but I wanted to add that Lisamarie brings up a very valid point. I'll explain...
Several years ago I had a somewhat controversial surgery to correct a problem that was keeping me from being able to walk without experiencing extreme pain. When my doctor suggested the surgery, I went to the internet to investigate other people's experiences with the surgery. I was interested in recovery times, etc. What I found was enough to make me have 2nd and 3rd thoughts about going through with the surgery, even though the surgeon was a close friend of my family. So many horror stories of people who never walked again! I mean hundreds of them. And not a single positive one! I did end up going through with it and a year later I was better than new.
Point being... How many people go out to the internet to share their *positive* experiences? I can tell you in the case of this surgery... Not very many! They're all too busy being happy and living their lives happily. There's really no reason for them to post their good stories. So it makes me wonder sometimes how skewed the viewpoint shared across the internet is. Hope that makes sense. Just food for thought!

Bahahahaha!

She is like beetlejuice, say her name 3x and she will come back and be difficult to get rid of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2sKH8yjVsM&feature=related

You know I have been thinking about this thread a lot today. Especially since watching the video. It really makes me wonder the people who question ALL Mena relationships, of course it would be be dumb to think that fraud does not happen in a lot of countries but seriously this is my question what part of the USA do the people who are so critical live in? I am a big girl.. ok but I think I am pretty, and my fiance' is Moroccan so he is a beautiful Arabian man.. But my entire life from a teenager up the majority of men that have thought I was beautiful were men of color. yeah for real, Maybe its just an east coast thing but for some reason dem boys think our junk in the trunk is beautiful!! LIKE tonight, I made a sale and after the sale, the guy texts me back and is like You are a very attractive woman , dude for real I have been up all day and night with a sick kid, havent had a shower since yesterday morning ( i am not ashamed, I am a mom) I have been crying from exhaustion, hair is a hot mess... you get the idea, and he still found me pretty,. oh and guessss what he was a darkskinned man JUS SAYIN This is nothing new in the USA , us big girls need love too :)Againn, maybe its just over here in the East LOL I am just and blessed that my love is an arabian because he has a certain charm, moral standard, and level of respect I just have never seen before. MAGHREBIA!!!
ok Peace and Blessings, Love to you all,
Sarasusan

You know I have been thinking about this thread a lot today. Especially since watching the video. It really makes me wonder the people who question ALL Mena relationships, of course it would be be dumb to think that fraud does not happen in a lot of countries but seriously this is my question what part of the USA do the people who are so critical live in? I am a big girl.. ok but I think I am pretty, and my fiance' is Moroccan so he is a beautiful Arabian man.. But my entire life from a teenager up the majority of men that have thought I was beautiful were men of color. yeah for real, Maybe its just an east coast thing but for some reason dem boys think our junk in the trunk is beautiful!! LIKE tonight, I made a sale and after the sale, the guy texts me back and is like You are a very attractive woman , dude for real I have been up all day and night with a sick kid, havent had a shower since yesterday morning ( i am not ashamed, I am a mom) I have been crying from exhaustion, hair is a hot mess... you get the idea, and he still found me pretty,. oh and guessss what he was a darkskinned man JUS SAYIN This is nothing new in the USA , us big girls need love too :)Againn, maybe its just over here in the East LOL I am just and blessed that my love is an arabian because he has a certain charm, moral standard, and level of respect I just have never seen before. MAGHREBIA!!!
ok Peace and Blessings, Love to you all,
Sarasusan

You know I have been thinking about this thread a lot today. Especially since watching the video. It really makes me wonder the people who question ALL Mena relationships, of course it would be be dumb to think that fraud does not happen in a lot of countries but seriously this is my question what part of the USA do the people who are so critical live in? I am a big girl.. ok but I think I am pretty, and my fiance' is Moroccan so he is a beautiful Arabian man.. But my entire life from a teenager up the majority of men that have thought I was beautiful were men of color. yeah for real, Maybe its just an east coast thing but for some reason dem boys think our junk in the trunk is beautiful!! LIKE tonight, I made a sale and after the sale, the guy texts me back and is like You are a very attractive woman , dude for real I have been up all day and night with a sick kid, havent had a shower since yesterday morning ( i am not ashamed, I am a mom) I have been crying from exhaustion, hair is a hot mess... you get the idea, and he still found me pretty,. oh and guessss what he was a darkskinned man JUS SAYIN This is nothing new in the USA , us big girls need love too :)Againn, maybe its just over here in the East LOL I am just and blessed that my love is an arabian because he has a certain charm, moral standard, and level of respect I just have never seen before. MAGHREBIA!!!
ok Peace and Blessings, Love to you all,
Sarasusan