PSoft

salam all,

i have a good news that i want to share,my husband's interview was last night at 11:30 pm (new york time) 7:30 am (U.A.E time) in Abu dhabi ,he got it without AR/AP ,he will go back tommorow to pick up his visa,CO asked 6,7 basic questions like how did we meet?how old our daughter is?who else lives with ur wife? does ur daughter talk to u when u call ur wife(she is only 15 months says mama and papa )

how long have u been married?

that was it and also 2005 tax returns.(my husband is from pakistan but he is a resident of u.a.e)

i am sooo happy.

thanks eveyone for all ur help.

AFIA

Congrats Afia,

Shon is right the link that she provided it is very detailed an very informative.

Good luck this coming week guys! I have a gut feeling people will hear some good news!

After a long time Shon & Michigan agreed on a ONE Point

ok,

here we go-

im just looking at how much longer im going to be waiting...

the nvc said they got the i-864 on may 15.

the automated system doesnt say that they got the $380 yet. maybe it might update on monday the 23rd.

how long for them to finish the i-864?

how long for them to review the ds 230? (assuming i send it out asap)

then how long to complete the case,?

fwd it to the embassy?

and when do u get to know the interview date? i read somehwere here that the NVC sets up the date..

problem is, our post is madras india ----> where im sure it will be a long wait time...

its just me the kid and a babysitter.....

check my time line

AR/AP is really ####### ......

Dont you think we all know our committment here Imran?

just because, someone is not ready to have a baby dont make that person - not committed to their marriage or to their spouse. having 4 wifes stuff is no relivant anyways because, we all are in the USA or bringing spouses to the USA. at the same time marriage is not always for the sole reason of having a baby. there are women whom can not produce a child- just like there are men that cant either. that dont make that person or that marriage worthless. because as we all know infertillity is a real problem.

Shon,

What I wrote in my previous posts was actually Islamic Ideology not my own words. I am not talking about others but those who follow Islam as faith must follow whatever Islamic rulings are. We can’t change things as per own consent.

You believe or not ‘Core’ purpose of marriage is really to reproduce babies.

Finally today I have confirmation. Ishteaq will be home late night of May 23rd so I will be saying farewell for some time to VJ in the next few days. JP is having surgery in one week and so it will be hectic around the house here. I will try and check in and see how everyone is progressing. Everyone please try and help each other by cheering each other on and rely on your faith. I will post his POE and update the records in the timelines as soon as things are settled or if he is sleeping from jet lag.

Good luck and God Bless,

Mary

Congrats Mary .. !

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...90entry206790

start your convo about - the age diffrent- marriage is for having kids - convo here.

thanks in advance..

Excuse me sir.

"And Allah has made for our spouses of your own nature, and from your spouses has made for you sons and grandsons ..." (Quran 16:72)

the purpose of marriage is reproduction. However, in huge age gap marriage the above-mentioned purpose is not realized.

i'm agree with this i cannot argue u r right but rasing a children is very expensive now for the one who dont have much money and stable future...,but how come u say one older women cannot be mother? well what u said is right..,sorry for all i said...gule gule

Why marry?

Marriage makes an incomplete human being a complete one. It makes him/her a grown up and gives him/her responsibilities whether those responsibilities are to feed and clothe the wife or to assist the husband. Marriage is supposed to take a person out of the hectic lifestyle that one is in and place him or her in an organised environment giving them a path to follow in life and a shoulder to lean on. In short marriage arranges one’s life. In Islam a man cannot have relationships with those he can marry unless it is within marriage. In other words Islam gives the right to a woman to be a wife of a man independant of the marriage relationship the man may have with another woman. This is a key diffence because in the modern era a man is not guilty if he has relationships with a woman outside of marriage but the moment he contracts to treat this woman equally as his wife, he is criminalised for illegal behaviour. This is odd as the current common law does not criminalise the actual relationship of the man with another woman but punishes the solemn promise/affirmation in writing to continue. Any off-spring would be illegitamate as the courts would not recognise polgamy even though it exists and is accepted in behaviour but not in writing. In some senses the increase in divorce rates and re-marriages we see nowadays is in someways a serial version of polygamy!. There are many reasons that support polygamy but Islam limits the practice to four wives and is allowed only when one can be fair to all wives. Polygamy is only mentioned briefly here but as a subject could be read in further detail elsewhere. Please also note that the current Law of the land in this regard should be abided by.

Marriage helps to safeguard one’s imaan (faith) i.e. it stops one from committing such acts by which s/he could be considered immoral. Sins such as intermingling with people of the opposite sex or socialising as it is classed in everyday terms are not considered to be acceptable in Islam, (because it creates immorality and immodesty) even though an incredibly large amount of people will hastely class it as an 'essential' part of one’s day.

More reasons why to marry in Islam.

The Prophet considered marriage for a Muslim as half of his religion because it shields him from promiscuity, adultery, fornication, homosexuality etc., which ultimately lead to many other evils like slander, quarreling, homicide, loss of property and disintegration of the family. According to the Prophet (peace be upon him) the remaining half of the faith can be saved by taqwa.

Condition of Marriage

Careful consideration of the Qur'anic injunctions and the traditions of the Prophet (peace be upon him) clearly show that marriage is compulsory (wajib) for a man who has the means to easily pay the mahr (dowry) and to support a wife and children, and is healthy, and fears that if does not marry, he may be tempted to commit fornication (zina). It is also compulsory for a woman who has no other means of maintaining herself and who fears that her sexual urge may push her into fornication. But even for a person who has a strong will to control his sexual desire, who has no wish to have children, and who feels that marriage will keep him away from his devotion to Allah, it is commendable (mandub).

According to the Maliki school, under certain conditions it is obligatory (fard) for a Muslim to marry even if he is not in a position to earn his living:

- If he fears that by not marrying he will commit fornication (zina).

- If he is unable to fast to control his passions or his fasting does not help him to refrain from zina.

- Even if he is unable to find a slave girl or a destitute girl to marry.

Marriage is forbidden (haram) to a man, according to the Hanafi school, if he does not possess the means to maintain his wife and children or if he suffers from an illness, serious enough to affect his wife and progeny.

It is not desirable (makruh) for a man who possesses no sexual desire at all or who has no love for children or who is sure to be slackened in his religious obligations as a result of marriage.

congrats ..

Happy Birthday PSoft

Here's my DOS update .... No Update Try again next week insha'Allah...

Thanks Omid,

Every things will be all right pretty soon .. hang in there .. !!!

Thank you very much ladies .... Yes, Today is my Birthday !!!

yo si hablo espanol.

Daniel

:energetic:

ELVASO DEL MUNDO

Congratulations and best of luck.

Mary

Congrats..

yes you are right shonjaved...well i proved it and the good thing was Consular never question me about this..,he wasnt intresting in looking at proves i show pictures he say no its ok i belive you boths met...,but the what is still confusing me is when i asked him how long this admin review take? he said this is admin processing not a review...,but still i got no clear answer what is this some say AP is same as AR some say its different what is ur ideas about this?

thank you very much

Excuse me sir.

"And Allah has made for our spouses of your own nature, and from your spouses has made for you sons and grandsons ..." (Quran 16:72)

the purpose of marriage is reproduction. However, in huge age gap marriage the above-mentioned purpose is not realized.

Hi, Every one,

GOODLUCK!! SHON, my case is at islamabad embassy, recently i sent DS230 so waiting any response from nvc, and WE ALL hope that you will keep joining VJs, as we do need your mails and help

Fooki

CONGRATSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

we are so happy!!

Congrats fooki

after two interviews and two biometrics, my patience ran out. we went to local USCIS and demanded to see officer incharge.after little arguments, the officer decided to approve my wife,s green card and stamped her passport.we r done for 2 years. thanks for your support and wish you all the luck.

C o n r a t s Mike

brother probably in paki culture they care about age differnece..living in pakistan dosent make me paki...anyway we TURKS dont care about age different and i guess this is nothing but numbers....according to the Islamic views this is "sunnah"....and there is nothing to think and amazed...this is cuple's intention not urs

wailakum selam gule gule

Wasalam,

If you are not Pakistani then why you are living in Pakistan? and What is Sunnah? Do get married or Marry to 32 years old woman?

Salam …..

What happen to our thread these days? It is very quiet here? So where is everyone? What up guys? Well, we have been waiting for packet 4 from Islamabad I hope they will schedule our interview soon. (inshallah)

Good luck guys….

Congratulations....!!

Congrats Ed.

Congrats.....

joyeann,

Congrats and Best of luck ...

Today western countries celebrating mothers day so I thought it is good idea to write something good about some prestigious mothers of this universe. May Lord Almighty guide all Muslim ladies to follow the path of these following most respected mothers of this universe.

KHADIJA (THE WIFE OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD):

Khadija bint Khuwaylid, the wife of the Prophet, is truly known as a noble lady; she was, in the modern terminology, the First Lady of Islam.

During the Makkan phase of Islam's movement, Khadija was the main pillar of support for Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). She was the first one to declare her faith in Islam. Her declaration of faith was a great testimony of the Prophet's character: a wife knows her husband's outer as well as inner character. By being the first to accept person to accept Islam, Khadija demonstrated that she believed in the truthfulness of Muhammad as the Messenger of God.

The initial years of Islam's mission were very trying; the Prophet faced severe opposition from the people of Mecca. In face of this rejection, Khadija provided the moral support and boasted the morale of the Prophet. According to Muslims historians, he even used to consult and discuss with her the issues related to the Islamic movement.

Khadija whole-heartedly supported the Prophet's cause by placing her wealth at his disposal. Almighty God has praised that by addressing the Prophet: "Did We not find you in need and made your free of need?" (93:8) It was through Khadija's wealth that the Almighty made the Prophet self-sufficient in his financial needs.

Although Khadija came from a very affluent background, she did not shy from sacrificing her wealth for the cause of Islam. Not only that, she even willingly went through the difficulties of three years of social/economic embargo imposed upon Prophet Muhammad and his family, the Banu Hashim. The hardship of these three years eventually resulted in her death.

It is to her credit that the Prophet of Islam did not marry another woman as long as Khadija was alive; she was the only wife who bore children for him. The name of Prophet continued through Fatima, the daughter of the Prophet and Khadija.

FATIMA (THE DAUGHTER OF THE PROPHET):

Jab Kabhi Ghairat-e-Insaan Ka Sawaal Aata Hai

Bint-e-Zehra Terey Pardey Ka Khayaal Aata Hai

Fatima bint Muhammad is one of the four noblest women in Islamic teachings. This is not just because she is the daughter of the Prophet of Islam or the wife of Imam Ali or the mother of Hasan and Hussain. These relationships are significant in themselves, but Fatima is important to the Muslims in her own right.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is seen as the perfect model of the values and teachings that were revealed in the holy Qur'an. He was the Last Prophet and the Qur'an was the Final Revelation: no prophet or scripture is to be sent after him. However, the Prophet was a man and so he could not be a complete role model for half of the humanity; therefore, there was a need for a perfect female model of Qur'anic values and teachings. And that role model for women was Fatima, the daughter of the Prophet. This is how Fatima is part of the Prophet; she completes the female dimension of the Prophet's function as a complete role model for humanity.

That is why the Prophet of Islam described Fatima as follows: "The leader of all the ladies of Paradise." (Sahih al-Bukhari, vol. 4, p.819.)

"Fatima is a part of me, and he who makes her angry, makes me angry." (Sahih al-Bukhari, vol. 5, p. 61.)

According to the holy Qur'an (33:33) she is among the infallibles ones in Islam. This status of infallibility comes with being a part of the Prophetic mission: he is the perfect role model for the men whereas she is the perfect role model for women.

Fatima was not only a loving daughter, a loyal wife and a caring mother; she is known in history as a woman of knowledge and wisdom, and she actively stood up for her rights. An excellent example of her social activism can be seen when she was denied her inheritance upon her father's death. Fatima challenged the authorities in power on basis of the Qur'an. She argued that the Qur'an has examples where the children of past prophets inherited their father. Using the Qur'an as her basis, she argued that she should not be denied her right.

PROPERTIES OF THE BEST WOMEN:

· She is content: Such woman is the best one who becomes happy and content when her husband puts a loving glance on her, and when he orders her for something right, she obeys him immediately, and never does any thing against his will. - Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw)

· She is a great cook and a good administrator: A woman who cooks neat, clean and delicious food for her husband. Allah has provided great food for such nice wife in paradise. In heaven, she will be asked to drink and eat whatever you wish, as this is the reward for the pain and services which you performed for your husband! - Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw)

· The best woman among your women is one who cooks delicious food, spends the money justly and does not waste it. Such women are the workers of Allah, and the workers of Allah never get hopeless and regretful! - Imam Jafer-e-Sadiq (as)

· She is priceless: A woman doesn't have any price, whether she is good or bad. A good and nice lady can not be measured with money or gold or silver, as she is far more expensive and precious than money or gold. Similarly, a woman with bad character and worst nature can not be compared with sand, as sand is far more higher and good than her. - Imam Jafer-e-Sadiq (as)

· She is loving, caring and patient: Do not you want me to tell you about those ladies who will enter paradise? A woman who is loving and caring to her husband, and gives births to his children and when he gets angry with her, she instantly says My hand is in your hand like she does not get satisfied until her husband becomes happy with her. - Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw)

· She is obedient: Lucky and fortunate woman is one who respects her husband and does not give him any pain, hurt or discomfort and does not makes him worried and obeys him in all the right aspects of life. - Imam Jafer-e-Sadiq (as)

· She does Jehaad: The Jehaad of woman is that she must not lose her patience if she gets hurt from her husband. Her patience is her Jehaad. - Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw)

Michigan and Shon take deep breathe. Be patient inshallah everything will be all right pretty soon. So there is no need to fight. I am still thinking how could someone be engaged and trying to marry 32 years old. Marcy on me Jezz…!

Brothers and sisters .....c'mon Wish everyone a great week.....

MrsBruce5 is 110% correct.

me and my fiance have 32 years age difference she is older than me

32 years age difference

Ok, This is dude from Islamabad. Its been 1 hour that i left embassy.

and you know what happened. .....................AR

Nothing new with me to share about interview.

But during first interview by desi man (after paying the fees), he has asked a question:

have you worked for terrorist organization?

wasnt that funny to reply?

well, in final intervew, the female CO asked many common questions.

Checked my business card and lecturer card.

She was impressed.

and asked me later why your english is good?

In reply, i showed her my school certificate where LA SALLE HIGH SCHOOL was written and i told her that i was thought by many "brothers" under Catholic Church System.

Finally, she said: Your case is OKAY but we cannot issue the visa to you as u r on AR.

Thats all from my side.

Note: They have not checked the license about which i was worried.

Just wait for few days then A/R thing will be over. Islamabad embassy working hard these days …J

Dude, you didn’t share nature of your business?

So where is your destination in Texas?

I do lubricants business.

I am coming to Houston, Insha Allah.

Love to live near IEC.

I didn't see your most.. WOW I am in Houston also live infront of IEC. Glad to you here ....

I m in Houston as well.....Just moved here last week from St. Louis

Where in Houston?

we filed april 11 and today i got my visa...........

WoW,

it is very fast ... congrats...

Congrats..

ok i have a question, maybe its been answered before, but i would like to ask again.

I applied for the K3 and also the CR1. Now do i have to go through the whole process at NVC (you know that flow chart thing aka DS3220, I864) for both of these visas. or lets say my k3 goes through before the CR1, and then CR1 goes through after that, do they still ask for the same forms to be filled out at NVC or they juts look at the old info and forward it to embassy.

You have to do NVC stuff (i.e. DS3032/I864/DS230) ONLY for CR1 not for K3. For K3 your case will stay at NVC only for short while (It would be very short break) NVC will assign a case number like ISL###### then NVC forwarded it to embassy.